It looks to me as if someone made a halfass go at collapsing the portal and gave it up as a bad job. Someone tried to hurt that tunnel. Anyhow. Great video. I clicked the button.

@Back In The Day 2 Which Council? Who owns the vent shaft, and who is putting stuff down it? Genuine questions.

I was just thinking the same!

Well not quite. There numbers aren't quite the same lol

Same here in Canada. We all seem to live in a nanny state now, with no personal responsibility or accountability.

there’s a flip side to this that has nothing to do with lawsuits and not bring an idiot: massive responses by first responders who have to pull the idiots out of the tunnels and valleys that they were trapped in. In New Hampshire, you get charged for these rescues as you disregarded warnings or weren’t prepared for the terrain. and to be blunt: most of those warning signs are on private land so why the shouldn’t trespassers be told off from entering? does owning a part of land with abandoned railway line or tunnel automatically make you have to give everyone the right to trample across your property?

@@bostonrailfan2427 Having been in our local Search&Rescue, I know exactly what you mean. To date people have not been charged hear for rescue, but descent people or families are grateful and usually donate to the cause. Of course, there are always idiots and irresponsible people, but they are not the majority. I agree that people shouldn't be able to tramp around on private land without permission. However, I spend a great deal of time out in the bush here, and quite often find No Trespassing signs that are not legitimate. They are posting roads and land that is not theirs. Fortunately, this is not the majority either.

@@bostonrailfan2427 I live in Scotland, where there is no law of common trespass; and a good countryside access code. In common with elsewhere, many such tunnels that were left open for years are now fenced or otherwise closed off with numerous safety warning signs - but a few that are not in urban areas remain accessible, and at least one example is an unofficial, but much-used local footpath! To be honest, I'm not sure how the law affects structures such as tunnels as, disused as they may be, they still technically belong to someone - even if it is the local authority or some government department. But I have a problem with your emotive argument regarding the cost of rescues, which is simply that, if we prevent people from entering tunnels on such grounds; where does it stop? Every year, ill-equipped and inappropriately shod people are rescued from our hills - and unfortunately, some are not - and 'pay' for their misadventure with their lives. You can only issue so many warnings - and you can't be at every potential point of ascent at all times every day with every tourist who might fancy their chances at getting up Ben Nevis or whatever in their shorts and sandshoes - because it's a lovely day in their minds and they're not aware that it's probably below freezing point on the summit - which may well have deep hidden gullies still filled with snow... So what do you do? Fence off all the mountains? What about those who are involved on road crashes on the way there? Do you close all the roads on the grounds on the grounds they're too dangerous because some people don't respect them and the rules that apply to them - and will need costly rescue and medical attention? As for rescue, while emergency service workers are paid for their work; many more specialist rescuers such as members of mountain and sea rescue teams are volunteers. Ignoring the politics of that, the fact is, these are people who go out on rescues because they want to. They enjoy that challenge as they themselves also love the mountains and take many of the same risks every time they go out on them. They understand those ill-equipped, arrogant tourists who think they're invincible because let's face it: we've all been there are some point in our lives! No - funding of rescue teams is a matter for politicians - not a reason for depriving the population of freedom of choice and movement - not to mention much opportunity to learn from their mistakes.

And then people started suing other people over their own stupidity (because lawyers saw money).

The only poisonous snake in the UK is the grass snake (a type of adder) but its bite isn't fatal if you get medical attention quickly and aren't allergic to the snake's venom.

and if you find a large colony of drop bears that are lost....

Very much agree Jam

I would NOT go in alone, for starters. I hope he set a rendezvous time with someone on the outside

I was a scout there once too. We always put garden type waste from the Scout site down the Pepperpot. I always wondered what was down there and how deep it went. Now I know. Thanks Paul

The scouting group should have been held accountable too for letting the builder on to their property.......and the builder should have been made to clear up his mess

@@lordbelvoir2543 environmental 'protection' in the UK is a joke. Virually no river in England passes as fit for swimming. The european standards of water framework directive have been pushed back and now essentially written off as most rivers in the UK cannot acheive good status and many are declining. Water companies literally weigh up the cost of prosecution of getting caught dumping raw sewage into rivers rather than cleaning sewage up. They know the regulator has no money, not enough staff and no teeth.

@@thebrowns5337 good post👍and this fly tipping on a massive scale is a good example of how it doesn't work..... Sue the scouting association for they gave permission for this fly tip plus they contributed to it too

@@lordbelvoir2543 the builder was prosecuted, and fined some thousands of pounds (can't remember how much) and the scout hut is simply near the vent stack , so i think you'd be struggling to sue the scout organisation as it wuld'nt have ever ben officially sanctioned by the scouting organisation.

Absolutely point well made Derek

Hope you're feeling better now Derek.

You need to take me to Burdale

Paul: I've written an adventure Publisher: What's it called? Paul: You need to take me to Burdale Publisher: Sounds intriguing. What's the first line? Paul: Five, four, three, two, one... ZERO

Because what can possibly go wrong!?

WHY NOT BLOW IT UP?

@@esecallum because likely that would harm the environment around it and certain ecologies that make it home.

@@bearwynn screw the environment and all those gullible idiots riding that bandwagon

100% agree

Thank you Christopher

Yes, that portal is quite distorted. Not something I would enter by choice. This is the thing with risk-assessment: we’re not experts and so our assessments are not necessarily reliable nor safe.

It is and they were fined.

@@pwhitewick but not made to clear it up ....who knows what toxins are leaking into the water course which runs under the track bed.....just thought the scout group should have been in court for letting the builder onto their property to carry out such a fly tip

Our pleasure.

I think what remains is pretty secure (apart from the stack), let's me know how you get on with Mansfield Rd

@@pwhitewick at the moment Mansfield Road is out of bounds. The north end is under a car park with access via a secured manhole and the south is a sealed door in full view of the Victoria Centre car park and presumably security. As I say it belongs to the City Council so whether or not they'd allow visits sometime in the future?

Haha.... thanks Kevin. Points agreed

Cheers, yup all true

born 72 Hyson Green. 77 Newark upon Trent 🦆😃

Perhaps one of recommended items to carry should be a sharp hacksaw, just in case they replace the damaged padlock while you are inside!

Its class that you just decided to go in 😆 I'm from near Newcastle and trying to get my family to go to the tunnel, but we're all so busy (not to mention covid risk)

That is a huge worry. I've noticed the UK being more authoritarian in the last couple of years, prosecution for any protest, the future prosecution of tresspass (as you mention,) the attempted ban on emergency services rescuing some types of people, cutting off peoples' rights to roam by setting a deadline for public footpath mapping. Its crazy.

You've been in Marlborough!!... I'm jealous and some.

@@pwhitewick yes a long time ago as my mates farm was above it. It was flooded at the southern end a little but now a bat cave lol. The line really needs reopening from Andover to Swindon

@@hugorogers2973 agreed. We live in Andover so completely with you on that!!

@@pwhitewick lol well I migrated to Newbury. Been here for 12 years. Cycled some of the didcot line between hermitage and Hampstead Marshall which has been converted to Cycle operation. Really needs reopening to stop the insane accidents on the 34. It’s a nice ride though council is planning in opening more as well. Not been on the southern section though

Absolutely Maurice. Agreed on all counts.

Nothing worse than a goo point!

Welcome. Thanks very much!

born 72 hyson Green

Thanks Shirley. I do like to think I make a sensible risk calculation before entering places like this.

Sounds good to me, not been there yet though

This is all very true Alex

Thanks Trev

Likewise Henry.

Thanks Nik. I had every intention but spent so long faffing around outside with the drone etc that I completely ran out of time.

And safety shoes in case of nails. I've said a few times to Paul that he needs to have the right safety equipment. Including a first aid kit stocked with useful things.

Cheers both. Yup we carry lots. First aid watch... extremely hard wearing boots. I think the risk of falling masonry is very very slim.

@@pwhitewick true but you only have one head!

@@hairyairey good point. But I still get in a car every day

@@pwhitewick and wear a seat belt, presumably even though most journeys you won't need it?

Yup search back on our videos, we did one from there around 2 years ago.

It wasnt Queensbury Tunnel that had the fatm it was Clayton. The campaign to re open Queensbury tunnel in spite of some infilling by NH is still very much alive

Thanks For watching.

impossible to 100% assess the structural integrity, via a KZfaq video.

This..... is very true

@@pwhitewick Agree with Mark, I love your videos but not the same without the lovely Rebecca!!

Agreed, you seem like such a nice couple, she is charming, however I did love the video!

In that case I'll do it for you... 👍👍

@@pwhitewick Hit me up when/if you get up here I'll show you where it is... bring your waders!