I am a nurse working in an homeless shelter and can say i do see these refugees coming in to Toronto on a daily basis. This is a sad case. I put the question out there back in july 2023 asking what is happening in africa especially Kenya that is creating this mass wave of people coming in and no answer. I've met a nurse and a fashion designer from kenya and an accountant from nigeria all now sorry for leaving their countries to now live and sleet on the streets. Today is September 9th and i can tell you i walked pass many of these refugees in the lobby of the shelter while leaving work this morning. We will never learn or understand what is at play here. Yes, many are claiming they are part of the LGBTQ but other's are also claiming they are fleeing from domestic abuse. All other nations come here seeking refugee status in Canada and received help so what happen to us black people. Never heard anything like this in all my 25yrs living here in Toronto Canada. I pray other african who are thinking to come would see these videos and stay the hell where they are. Absolutely nothing to see over here. Thanks for sharing truth i pray this videos goes far and wide.

Britain deported a woman claiming asylum as gay but they found out she was chewing men only never women

Don't accept none of them.

I hope Africans aren't doing that just to get to Babylon 😂

More Indian and Chinese migrants in Canada than Nigerians.

Jonita, there are people in the West with Phds and no job❤

I can'r speak on Uganda but I do know that there are a lot of people from the Caribbean who have claimed to be part of the LBGTQIA community seek refuge in the US.

Come on Agabs... In many parts of Africa, laws and rules don't mean a thing or affect RICH PEOPLE.

2014 first time Ugandan government tempered with 🏳️‍🌈 most Ugandans who came to Europe as gay ,most of them changed from gay to straight & there life changed economically.

Such a good podcast. When Oshay gives us hella game for free.

@ Joanita.. .your growth and sophistication on this podcast cannot be denied!

Juanita when people pretent to get a result They will pretend a one off kiss or say they cannot do that it will affect their family members who are in Africa nd in Western worlds they won t force u against yr wishes.

Wow! I love how Oshay TRIED to steer the conversation towards the real issue which is WHY people are fleeing their home country, and Gabs masterfully turned it back away from the priviledge and corruption that benefits the few. When your own family took you away to give you better oportunity then I guess you can't really knock people trying to get out by any means necessary, but its mighty WYT to come back and enjoy life in the same conditions that cause people to flee and be like 🤫 and deflect, deflect, defelect when the subject comes up. Your guest today should be permanent that is truly my brother ✊🏾. As far as Gabs swinging the bat 🧐, Im getting Sammy Sosa, Mark Mcguire vibes lately...it was all steroids, and softball topics, and I'm just average so he's probably allergic to me.

If you play the system and get away with it... More power to you!🎉

This is one way ticket to the west 😂😂

Great episode. 👍

Joan had me cracking up 😂

Oshay is absolutely right...and the other guests... I know for a fact that we Africans who capitalize on any tragic/trouble/crises on the continent to flee that lack of opportunities in their country...in the vodeo clip, agreed there are LGBTQ in the crowd, but there's no emergency situation besides common sense laws in any African country regarding the gay. Amnety International, UNO and different NGOs have not talked about it...a bunch of folks in the video clip are not even from the countries that gay laws have been passed. It beggars the question of good governance in Africa as a whole. What a shame on African leaders since post colonial independence. Jah bless y'all.

How are they getting the visa you ask? I was told by one refugee that they pay money $5000 to $6000 USD to someone in africa to get them through.

Guys, I heard gram PM, did not say that you could do what ever you wanted to, only in the private of your home. Not on the pudlic.

Juanita congratulations she is wearing a ring🤣🤣🤣🤣 am i the only one when it comes to Oshay i actually speak with him when he is introducing himself, weird but yeah i do it every time🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

😂So fakeit to you make it? Sounds painful!😂😂😂

I have always believed most of Ugandan claiming they're fleeing punishment for being lgbtq are lying and trying to find a way to be helped ,this kind of activities wasn't there for decades but since life in the country isn't good yes they are trying to get a better life

The problem is the policy. It starting from the top down makes it dangerous and can eventually develop into a more dangerous situation. As I’ve said Museveni would not jail or kill his son or grandson if he found out about their homosexual activity so what gives him the moral right to do it to someone else’s child.

I noticed it everyday this true thing

Indians out number Nigerians in Canada by 10 to 1. Chinese out numbers Nigerians in Canada by 9 to 1.

Jonota responding to your question some of these people where there illegally now they using this opportunity to make their status changes.

I met a woman in Uganda who wanted to take me to Germany she was a lesbian and wanted me to be her wife. She told me it takes only two weeks to leave the country.Yeah I refused the offer

Everything falls apart without effectiveness.

Selling bussy for a green card, deplorable!

Go to any fashion show😂

The issue is actually 3D chess. When I worked for an Agency in the west. I discovered only 3,800 business visas were awarded for the whole African continent. Eritrea had gotten the most visas at 853. This is 2016, Uganda had been awarded 330. China alone had been awarded around 2 million visas. If Africans are to conduct trade but are unable to visit the countries they need to conduct trade. Government ministries are going to agitate the west the only way they know how; "passing laws that the west doesn't agree with". Recently, the west has been investigating East African heads of states family members who routinely travel to the west on diplomatic passports. This has limited the ability to hide funds abroad. African countries also recognize remittance provides valuable foreign currency. The value comes from being able to conduct trade and purchase fuel denominated in ($). Also foreign currency is need for corrupt officials to funnel they're cash out of the country.

The language of “preferences” and “choices” shows a blatant disrespect and ignorance to the plight of LGBTQ people who are legally stigmatized by the laws of Uganda…. Very sad and telling and further disenfranchises a very important and significant part of the African diaspora….ugh! #disgusting

Only take the one's who have been arrested for being gay in their home countries first.

Ts Sami manini... Say it direct Joanita

Lol lol ain't no way smh

No chills

Africans missed all the different revolutions like the electric, industrial and the computer Revolution. Education is important. African Governments should be investing into the youthful populations it now has, the youth should be in school and not fighting tribal wars or missing out on school because of pure greed and corruption there is no hope in the older generation to alleviate Africa from poverty as we can all clearly see.

The fact that a law appears not be under enforcement, does not does not mean its potential dangers are non existent. An unjust and dangerous law has been enacted. No one who feels he or she is potential target of that inhumane law should have to sit around and gamble his or her life. Some people are martyrs, others would rather flee. Many women in the US who resides in states that have enacted anti abortion laws are fleeing those states, even though the full weight those laws haven't been levied. FEAR is the terror.

😅Oshay trying to blow those people 🌈 spots in Uganda.

wow.......in this country 2 people can pretend to be gay....get married.....and get benefits from it like insurance, etc.....

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂✌

When it's not happening on you, doesn't mean it's not happening .. Try villages like Butambala when you are homosexaul. You will get a clear image what it means to be a gay in Uganda 🇺🇬

Gabs didn’t have anything to add to Oshay’s very important points about why Africans are fleeing their continent in droves (due to bad governance), and about the need to address this fast-growing crisis. Instead, Gabs expressed doubts about Uganda having any kind of problems with genuine refugees, because he has never heard of or come across any examples. I’m not surprised. Gabs is from Western Uganda. They (Western Ugandans) have been the rulers of Uganda for nearly 4 decades now and have truly benefited from this uninterrupted domination. Meanwhile just visit Northern and Eastern Uganda to see what total abject poverty all round looks like. It’s heartbreaking. I’m therefore not surprised that ‘patriotic’ Gabs would happily defend HIS Uganda, while totally ignoring the REAL Uganda that millions e.g. in the North and East tragically live through daily. Totally Heartbreaking.

Equality exist for people that look like each other in high developed society, that ultimately allows for economic and social benefit of their people. This doesn't happen in Africa, as it should, because of micropolitics. 😢

Those people getting visa are Students are going to visiting visa.are not Gays.Are looking opportunities.!!!

@joanita they go through Mexico via Central America via darian jungle then get to then Texas Cali New Mexico then get bussed to NY and Maine once they get into Canada they seek asylum bc in Canada that process is easier

Are private people not creating businesses and companies in Uganda?

I lived with several Ugandan asylum seekers in Australia. All of them and their friends were playing the gay/lesbian card to get permanent residence. None of them were gay or lesbian. Some of them, to prove their case, pay well known LQBTQ activists for fake refence letters. If I were in their position, I would do the same, most probably, so I can't condemn them. A little discussed side-effect of people having the right to claim asylum in a country means it makes visas very difficult for citizens of country's such as Uganda.

00:00 - Discussion on countries accepting homosexuality, economic reinvestment. 00:36 - Introduction of hosts, topic for discussion. 01:25 - Coverage on LGBTQ refugees in Canada. 03:38 - Issue: using sexuality for country entrance. 05:32 - Governance issue in African countries. 06:05 - Discussion on African immigrants in Canada. 07:11 - Historical migration to America highlighted. 08:00 - Hosts' personal stances on LGBTQ issues. 09:25 - Differences in experiences among African refugees. 10:14 - Anecdotes on seeking asylum, made-up reasons. 12:20 - Persecution of LGBTQ in Uganda questioned. 13:43 - Asylum challenges, lengths people might go. 14:49 - Skepticism on authenticity of claims. 15:45 - Extremes in LGBTQ+ policies hinder dialogue. 17:10 - Exploiting LGBTQ+ narratives for Canada migration. 18:26 - Faking LGBTQ+ status harms genuine cases. 20:00 - Fake stories undermine genuine asylum seekers. 21:29 - Ugandans getting Canadian visas? Process queries. 23:22 - Need reinvestment for growth, not just defense. 24:00 - Private sector crucial for economic upliftment. 25:42 - Economic development focus over sexuality. 27:04 - Diaspora's role in Africa's growth, stability. 28:15 - Scepticism on global focus on African LGBTQ. 30:26 - Refugees, genocides from Sudan, Liberia. 31:43 - Ugandan speaker's concern on negative portrayal. 32:43 - Uganda's anti-LGBTQ legislation, skepticism. 34:01 - Unemployment, value of practical skills in Uganda. 35:32 - Potential non-university options explored. 36:40 - Reasons Africans leave; mismanagement, leadership. 38:09 - West's abuse of Africa, generational challenges. 39:34 - Recognizing potential, opportunities in Africa. 40:40 - Guest social media plugs shared. 41:07 - Ending notes, subscription information.

Hold up a minute. Germany? There is a huge financial literacy divide between the north and south. The southern Germans are savers and northern Germany are spenders. If it wasn’t for the savers, Germany would not be doing as well.

Yes they are i would they say politacal refuges the west would reject their application yet you are easly accepted under the umbrella what you have to know is that people easiest option to allowed to stay in the country without breaking the law

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Eyo topics mugiveko abantu bayiya buyiye.kwebereramu mubaveko.banonya bulamu.!!!

Your talking about how you live me and mine. Do you not realize it does affect you and will eventually personally affect your children.

I live in the Greater Toronto Area. Basically there's a housing crisis in Canada and the GTA is where the housing crisis is a worst. Because of the high cost of housing and covid there's a lot more homeless people on the streets and the shelters are filled to the brim. I heard about the way black asylum seekers were being treated badly before it hit the news. It started hitting our mainstream news about 5 weeks ago. I've donated to this cause and I know friends and family who attend black churches in Toronto, Mississauga and Brampton which are housing the overflow of asylum seekers. The LGBT angle was never a part of the story until maybe 3 weeks into the mainstream media coverage of the story so yes most of these people aren't gay and aren't calming to be gay. It's funny because there was a story in Canada where something like 30 LGBT people from Barbados applied for refugee status and Canada denied them all except 2. Canada and the west like to attacks African and Caribbean countries about this but at the same time they wont give refugee status to gay blacks.

There are opportunities in the USA but still people move to other countries.

Good economy equation = Good government + good education + high manufacturing + power; In all human society only 10% are primary entrepreneurs 30% are imitators and the rest are just workers. This means only 10% will invent the rest will copy and the remainder are just workers. One person invented the computer, 30% will copy and the remaining will work in the manufacturing plant.

Many opinions about this video..U Be careful out here M.Gabs..👍

@Kenganda...I think a parallel and more relevant topic discussion would be: 'Are expats and repats in the Diaspora pretending to be straight to come to Africa'...

But why blow their cover? SMH. For "likes"? Monetary gain? lol. Do you hear other group snitching on their people?

Those people are getting visa to go embassy same for visiting same Student are not get visa as Gays to go to European and America.!

The economic atmosphere in the West isn't what it used to be anymore. It isn't what it used to be in the last 20-25 years. People get it twisted based on what they see on the TVs and in movies, aside from the amenities such as good roads, pipebon water and transportation, most of the other things ain't used to be what it is. Housing now in the UK is like going through a eye of the needle to get, it's gone left to the point a landlord has the right and must vet one's legal status in the country before he or she would rent out just a room in his or her property to you. Otherwise he or she will be breaking the law and could go to prison and get fined or both for renting out his or her property to an none legal immigrant. So, it isn't that greener on the other side as it was before. ( and this not saying anyone who wants to move to the west shouldn't)

The LAW makes it punishable. The Law puts their life at risk, I’m confused about the question. The Law makes Uganda intolerant of homosexuality. Its not inconsequential just because no one has suffered yet. What are you talking about?

Yes they’re saying that it’s a lie

One thing I'll never understand about when Oshay says don't contact him. What's the point of having the info if you shun those that want to communicate with you?

Could you please let me know why you're fighting me on this? I can't stress enough how important it is for a country to manufacture its own goods even if it's inferior to the other brands. Only the first-world economy shouldn't be worried about competition. Their brand is solid. You can't have an economy without goods and services. Selling your natural resources is not an economy. The basic premise of the economy is trading interests, and if you don't have goods to change, you don't have an economy, period. The next is power and most good use power to create and use. Manufacturing plays a crucial role in a country’s economy for several reasons. Firstly, it contributes to a nation’s gross domestic product (GDP), measuring a country’s economic performance. Manufacturing activities create value-added products and services, generating income and economic growth. Secondly, manufacturing provides employment opportunities. It creates jobs for skilled and unskilled workers, reducing unemployment rates and improving people’s standard of living. A strong manufacturing sector also stimulates job growth in other industries, such as transportation, logistics, and services. Additionally, manufacturing facilitates innovation and technological advancement. It drives research and development, improving productivity, efficiency, and competitiveness. Countries that invest in manufacturing often experience technological progress, which allows them to produce higher-quality goods and remain competitive in the global market. Moreover, a vibrant manufacturing sector promotes export growth and trade balance. Countries that make and export manufactured goods can generate foreign exchange, improve their trade balance, and strengthen their position in the global economy. This helps generate revenue and increase the country’s competitiveness internationally. Lastly, manufacturing contributes to regional development and infrastructure growth. Industrial zones and manufacturing plants attract investments, leading to infrastructure development like transportation networks, power supply systems, and communication networks. Such infrastructure development has positive spillover effects on other sectors of the economy, supporting overall economic development. In summary, manufacturing is crucial for a country’s economy as it contributes to GDP, employment, technological advancement, export growth, and regional development. It enhances the overall economic well-being and competitiveness of a nation.

Nah This title is jokes

Read Romans 1:18. Says it all.

Oshay is very accurate but not politically correct

What was the point of this video? If you don’t feel like it’s a problem why did y’all bring it up Why not just talk about why people don’t want to live there i’m sure no one asked for this video

Make it make sense. They will do anything to get out of countries in Africa. And Melanated Americans are running there. Peace

Please we gotta stop exposing black People's hustles world wide . It seems we're the only group of people who do this

Hii ni mada nzuri na nimependa huu mjadala kuhusu wasakaji stara au hifadhi katika nchi za kigeni kwa kutumia udhuru wa ushoga na usagaji.

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Let our brothers get visas if it will improve their lives. Don’t exposethem

I advocated for the African LBGTQ to seek asylum in the West when the laws were first introduced. It made logical sense based on the laws.