wanting a company to lose all competition and get ravaged by tepid improvements and steep prices is where "fan" turns to "cultist"

"terminal decline" gets the clicks and reads which is what the publishers need--just like content creators.

It's more just really bad journalism rather than clickbait.

Userbenchmark guy got a job at PC gamer?

I switched to AMD because of available memory and performance at a lower price. I'm very happy so far. I don't care about RT because at the resolution I use RT hits FPS too hard to be useable.

I’m on team red, but even I thought RDNA3 was disappointing. At some point AMD needs to realize “nvidia at home w/ 50 dollar discount” tactic is never going to cut it.

If anything is in terminal decline, it’s Xbox.

All these fears seem blown out of proportion. AMD is in a stronger position than it was for the better part of the last decades in both the CPU and GPU segments. They will be fine.

OK, the internet has broken people's minds. Everything is clickbait now, even beyond the headlines. AMD's "Gaming" segment is down because of many complex factors: 1) AMD counts consoles (and handheld chips) in this, we are mid gen into consoles coming up to the PS5 Pro and whatever Xbox "Pro" version, so we are far away from initial demand. 2) We are at the end of a GPU generation cycle, most of the sales happen towards launches. This also applies to the handheld chips (iGPU like Z1 extreme for ROG Ally etc.) as they are approaching end of life cycle as well, with upcoming Strix Point replacement with next CPU Series. 3) This point affects many companies: POST PANDEMIC sales rebound. Many companies had higher than average sales as many people were bored at home (some with extra cash) and invested into hobbies and other elective purchases. This REALLY affected GPU markets extra as there as a BOOM in crypto mining, driving prices and demand up to ridiculously high levels. 2 to 3 times MSRP on some cards, mainly Nvidia, but AMD as well. 4) Add ALL of this to the fact that AMD didn't exactly nail it this gen (XTX was great, overall good value on mid range as well) and has had slower sales in some markets in the actual Desktop GPU division. So before everyone reads another clickbait headline, go read the stats (learn what they actually cover) and transcripts. AMD's main business, as selling GPUs is more a "side-hustle" for them, is doing great. Record Data Center GPU sales. Steadily chipping away at Intel's desktop CPU market. So everyone calm down, AMD is fine and flush with cash.

Hold on, you're saying that a clickbait title article is clickbait? the internet would never lie to me like that!

Competition is good for us the consumers. I went team RED this time a round. No issues with my SAPPHIRE NITRO+ 7900XTX . I play at 4k and have no driver issues.

"Terminal decline" 🙄 Jeremy Laird needs to do some real journalism. I went with a 7000xtx and never been happier. Converted my brothers to Radeon. Like it or not Radeon is here to stay.

I would actually say nearly every single consumer segment is in decline, not just gaming gpu industry, nearly everything. The only thing thats doing fine is business to business. Your average joe consumer isn'y buying much, this includes Nvidia gaming gpus are also on the decline.

I just built a friend a full AMD rig a few days ago. 5900x for $210 & a 7800xt for $500. It's about 20% faster than my own 11700k and 6800. Very Nice

I would say it seems like PCGamer is in terminal decline!

Edit: I have been on Steam since the year it launched. I have never, ever gotten an invite to take the survey and I've had AMD GPU's on 5 different occasions, dating back to the x700m 128 era) Intel would be out of their mind to stop making GPUs. After missing the mobile phone chip phenomena turned world-wide staple every year to missing the last two+ mining booms if they were to miss out on the x64 AI mania, they may as well start downsizing and calling themselves _"Little Blue"_ as they will go the way of IBM. Even if the AI market is a giant bubble, that does not mean AI chips will not become the next cell phone chips, and frankly, I think it will probably be bigger, and the bubble itself is more reflective of the markets as a whole than the technology behind it. Same goes for AMD. The overlap between the tech is so large right now, and AMD's piece of the graphics pie is still such a huge part of their annual income, it would be moronic, possibly *criminal* in the eyes of shareholders, for them to abandon it. As much as I want a high end card from them to be on the market this year for *me* to have on my block of purchasing options, I understand why sticking with midrange cards may be the right play for them. If they know they cannot compete against a 5080 or 5090 at a reasonable price, then from a fiduciary responsibility standpoint it doesn't make sense for them to do so, especially if they feel they can fast track a new, higher price to performance and far superior design to the market 6 months to a year before Nvidia is ready to release their next chips. Also, this could change up the cadence so AMD is not competing directly with Nvidia every other year in two year blocks. Nvidia could run away with the crown one year, then AMD could take it for less money (at least initially), before Nvidia comes back to reclaim the lead, then 10-12 months later AMD leapfrogs them and so on. I also assume that AMD will want to bin as many chips as possible that don't quite reach professional level of power to performance demands so they can launch with enough cards after supplying Microsoft and Sony in the console market. So does this suck? Well for me, yes, as I have a funny feeling that the rumors of a $900 5080 that just edges out the 4090 in raster while beating it by 50% in RT is rubbish while the 5090, if the specs are accurate cannot be less than $2K. Monolithic, 2 chips, it doesn't matter. If the 5080 looks like it will be 1 350MM^2'd chip with a 256 bit BUS and the 5090 will come in at 700MM^'2, 356 bit BUS with 92MB of Cache (or 2 325MM dies with a separate IO die on an even bigger substrate, though I doubt that is happening in the consumer discreet GPU market) the thing is going to cost a ton. Twice the everything besides Cache as the 5080...yep, I just don't see any breaks on the pricing front. That said, if the 5080 comes out first with no competition from AMD then there is no reason for them to keep the same price, never mind drop it. If AMD can't match up with Raytracing/Pathtracing right now for what people paying that much will expect, it's just a waste of silicon for them to divert away from the pro Mi chips, forcing them to lower prices more on their 7900XT and XTX again while probably not doing much to satisfy what $1K+ GPU buyers want. Hopefully in a few years I'll be looking at 10900XT/X's from AMD, but for now it looks like I'll be stuck overpaying a little bit for Nvidia if I want a card to do what I expect it to when we are talking about the price of a used 1995 Honda Civic.

I wand AMD and Intel to succeed. Competition is needed. We neeed competition to keep quality high and prices lower.

I'm still on 1080p monitor, upgraded from 1650 to a 7700xt last year. I'm pretty satisfied honestly.

Yeah, been hearing about the Radeon "Terminal decline" ever since they bought ATI. Guess what, it did not happen. Let's not forget that GPU's like the RX 7800XT actually sold quite well. If the rumors are true and they will focus on the low to mid-end tier GPU's next gen, and actually have competitive pricing, they could easily win some market share and use that time to improve on the software side of things, like FSR Upscaling (It seems they actually started to work on this with FSR 3.1) And then they could come back into the High-end tier with a new generation (Maybe RDNA 5). I have a Sapphire Nitro+ 7900XTX that I got after returning my RTX 4080 because of fan rattling and high temps. Because I do not tend to use RT in games (Although with the overclock i got, it is not that far from the 4080 in RT) I decided to save myself 200 euros and get the 7900 XTX Nitro+. and I will definitely consider going AMD again when I will upgrade my GPU, as I have not had any issues with it. It overclocks like a beast. Got a ≈20% increase in performance from UV+OC. Edit: Oh, btw let's not forget that Nvidia also makes less money from the gaming division. Their Revenue from gaming is now 12% of their total earnings. Down from 28% last year.

Im not a corporation fan, ive gone with NVIDIA recently for raytracing and the features. Im looking forward to seeing how much of the raytracing performance and other features gap is closed with RDNA4 and RDNA5. I just want the best card

Watching this on a 7000 series GPU

AMD is a $245 Billion dollar company who makes all the GPU’s and CPU’s for all the consoles and gaming handheld devices. Even if sales are down it makes no sense for them to just cancel their gaming GPU’s. They’re still making huge profits

Great to see your channel growing Daniel! I appreciate all your hard work!

The main problem this generation has probably been the pricing and the naming. An example: The 7900 XT launched for $900 which was quite expensive for what it delivered compared to Nvidia. I personally bought this card for $707 half a year later and it was a great buy! But that was probably the price is should have had from the beginning if they wanted it to be popular. And at this point its too late as it has already been consigned to an also ran in peoples minds. Also the name for it should really have been 7800 XT. That would make more sense as there were already another card named 7900 and it would then launch at the same launch price of $700 as the 6800 XT did.

pc gamer global authority on clickbait poorly thought out and researched articles

I actually got the steam survey last month so I contributed to that RX6600 number for the first time. Last time I got it I think I had yet to upgrade from my 750TI. But yeah, I think "terminal" was the clickbait word for the article of the day. If it had just said decline then people probably wouldn't have paid attention. I imagine "critical" or "serious" were other words they could have used.