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"Are Christians Delusional?" Richard Carrier Skepticon 3

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@adam2aces
@adam2aces 10 жыл бұрын
Christian don't care about this there is too much thinking involved. Donkeys and snakes talk and that is the truth. They don't care that the entire underpinning of Christianity is that God decided to punish the entire human race for a situation that they were not involved in, because two people they never meet were deceive by a creature God himself created. This makes sense to their small heads.
@sithlordpalpatine8486
@sithlordpalpatine8486 10 жыл бұрын
Completely agree with you, but Slayer is really douchey and gay. Like an angsty teen's wet dream.
@RAREDEATHMETAL
@RAREDEATHMETAL 10 жыл бұрын
Sith Lord Palpatine says the "sith lord"....
@rjonesx
@rjonesx 10 жыл бұрын
Wow, you have a really limited view of modern Christianity.
@mrjayguess6895
@mrjayguess6895 10 жыл бұрын
adam2aces "This makes sense to their small heads." As a Christian with a theology degree, and a former scientist (of 30 years) with two degrees and a postgrad in science, who spent his career in research and education, teaching chemistry and latterly cosmology and astronomy, are you stating here that I have 'a small mind'? If so, then I would be more than happy to debate these issues with you and wipe the floor with you in argument. I have done so here several times (see the top message) and so far NO atheist has ever got further than the third state of a 20 stage argument without running home to mummy in tears. Most fall at the first hurdle. If you wish to take this comment back, then you will hear no more from me. But if you do not, then if you also refuse to debate these issues, that will say a darn sight more about you and your cowardice than any "small headed" Christian. Understood?
@mrjayguess6895
@mrjayguess6895 10 жыл бұрын
***** I have now posted it around 30 times, idiot. Check John Polkinghorne, and the number of times HIS papers have been peer reviewed, pal. When you have refuted it, then you have some credibility. Until than you continue to be a brainless dolt.
@TheHigherVoltage
@TheHigherVoltage 11 жыл бұрын
I was a Christian for 20ish years. My life became much better when I got rid of the self-delusion.
@user-zy3zd3sx2d
@user-zy3zd3sx2d 9 ай бұрын
The parallels to grifting is what Carrier pitches, just like televangelists do. Grifters are all about the sell. I was sitting on the porch the night the Hale Boppers were supposedly riding the comet. I tipped my bottle of Bud. lol
@garyabbott3861
@garyabbott3861 9 ай бұрын
Mine too. I now think of myself as a Believer. But generally keep that to myself. I don't think any of my close friends are Believers. We never talk about religion.
@ceeemm1901
@ceeemm1901 7 ай бұрын
"Self-delusion"...Interesting that the delusion was yours and not Christian....blaming an abstract concept, hmmmmm
@TheHigherVoltage
@TheHigherVoltage 7 ай бұрын
@@ceeemm1901 Christianity is largely harmful self-delusion. No different than most other cults and God(s) religions on the planet. Life becomes so much easier to navigate without the victim complex and warped beliefs about reality that Christianity foists on believers.
@kethib52154
@kethib52154 3 ай бұрын
you are delusional now
@rubyhoney6177
@rubyhoney6177 10 жыл бұрын
Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest. Denis Diderot
@UberTheRandom
@UberTheRandom 10 жыл бұрын
Love that quote.
@rubyhoney6177
@rubyhoney6177 10 жыл бұрын
UberTheRandom Randomizer I love reading a lot of his works
@tshepokgwele1789
@tshepokgwele1789 4 жыл бұрын
Wow!!!!, that is a super quote!!!, wow, I've never had my mine blown by a quote like that, outstanding, thank you sir
@rafaelagenda8296
@rafaelagenda8296 4 жыл бұрын
An't that right
@danderran
@danderran 3 жыл бұрын
Then we can all be free in the likes of China, Russia and North Korea.
@topformfitness
@topformfitness 10 жыл бұрын
Atheists are listening to this entire vid, saying "Hell ya!", while God-Fearin' folk be like "I didn't listen to one word of this, but I'm going to comment as if I did".
@AmitKumar-qz2us
@AmitKumar-qz2us 3 жыл бұрын
Religion has ever been anti-human, anti-woman, anti-life, anti-peace, anti-reason and anti-science. The god idea has been detrimental not only to humankind but to the earth. It is time now for reason, education and science to take over. Madalyn Murray O'Hair
@kennethkimbroug8087
@kennethkimbroug8087 3 жыл бұрын
@@AmitKumar-qz2us take over what ?
@JJ-qo7th
@JJ-qo7th 3 жыл бұрын
@@kennethkimbroug8087 Take over the role that religion has been filling in determining human thought and deed.
@michaelbrickley2443
@michaelbrickley2443 2 жыл бұрын
When the majority of scholarship disagrees with the man, I don’t give a rats ass where he got his degree. The people who love him are impressed because they don’t believe.
@michaelbrickley2443
@michaelbrickley2443 2 жыл бұрын
@@AmitKumar-qz2us, are you still here spouting 1/2 truths and untruths? Get a life and some facts
@abinstein
@abinstein 9 жыл бұрын
To believe without evidence is delusional.
@daughteroftheking7617
@daughteroftheking7617 5 жыл бұрын
abi you are evidence friend.
@vmelkon
@vmelkon 5 жыл бұрын
@@daughteroftheking7617 : Abi is evidence that Abi exists. Abi is not evidence that aliens or gods exist.
@daughteroftheking7617
@daughteroftheking7617 5 жыл бұрын
Vrej Egon Spengler abi, is evidence of a creator.
@zenithsomining820
@zenithsomining820 5 жыл бұрын
@@daughteroftheking7617 Abi's creator is proof that abi's creator has a creator. Where does it end?
@daughteroftheking7617
@daughteroftheking7617 5 жыл бұрын
Movie ost God is a being who always was & always will be. He created humans. Look at your anatomy. Humans have seeds that grow once planted, we blossom, we are in our prime, then we shrivel & die, similar to a flower that starts from a seed, grows old & shrivels & dies. God created all life. All life starts & ends the same.. A Big Bang & evolving from moneys makes NOOOOOO sense. Don’t debate. No other explanation to me tho 🤷🏽‍♀️
@backcuetheoriginal
@backcuetheoriginal 8 жыл бұрын
It sounds like there are a lot of angry delusional Christians posting comments. If you are mad at what Richard is talking about then he is probably right.
@allenstroud7064
@allenstroud7064 8 жыл бұрын
+backcue I'm neither angry or delusional, just very well informed. Richard is correct on a few points, regarding religion and history, but his main thrust, content and conclusions are incorrect and deeply flawed.
@jursamaj
@jursamaj 5 жыл бұрын
@Star Trek Theory: Who is a Jew, and what difference does that make?
@JM-ot8ux
@JM-ot8ux 5 жыл бұрын
@Stacy Caruso Of course, he's CHRISTIAN.
4 жыл бұрын
@Star Trek Theory So was Jesus. Also Einstein.
@stuart3178
@stuart3178 3 жыл бұрын
No they think of those that could miss out on Eternal Life In Christ, they are were mad whch I don't believe they are it would maybe be if it means one soul is lost, also there is a lot of irreverence in the way he talks the way he mocks Christianity with mocking laughter. Born Again Christians KNOW he isn't right. btw every historian with a phd doesn't agree with this man , only one other does with a phd and he's also an atheist.
@Firecat719
@Firecat719 9 жыл бұрын
An atheist does not need to ridicule religion. Religion ridicules itself. Nor does an atheist need to disprove god. The bible does a decent job of that for you! Still, for an atheist, it is always best to remember: Logic and reason are two places, "the faithful," seldom go.
@diilavery4825
@diilavery4825 9 жыл бұрын
What is the correct angle to which a fedora should be tipped?
@stuart3178
@stuart3178 3 жыл бұрын
Atheists do ridicule religion though don't they.
@travisjazzbo3490
@travisjazzbo3490 3 жыл бұрын
@@stuart3178 Many do... it is such low hanging fruit... how can you not? We are ONLY HUMAN AFTER ALL!
@jakumomo163
@jakumomo163 3 жыл бұрын
@@stuart3178 anyone will, cause its ridiculous
@eosapienrancher4045
@eosapienrancher4045 3 жыл бұрын
No, religion doesn't ridicule itself. It has survived in multiple forms for hundreds if not thousands of years, rebutting and in some cases suppressing ridicule and dissent. It is incumbent upon any anti-theist to do the mocking and debunking, because 99% of religious people sure as hell will not get there on their own by simply reading their scripture or listening to their clerics. It's a self-contained, self-perpetuating system of belief. You cannot expect it to crumble from the inside. Would that it were so, but it just isn't. External voices are needed to reveal the contradictions and inaccuracies. Also, the sort of smug attitude displayed in your comment does turn off a lot of christians or even casual non-observers. You may scoff at that and say who cares, and on one level you're right: it's NOT rational to dismiss someone simply because of their tone, but it happens. All the time. It's human nature. And if you're interested at all in persuading people and not just circlejerking one another into irrelevance, you need to take that into account. I want to see atheism spread and ridiculing believers is not the way to make that happen, even if the content of that ridicule is accurate.
@MarkRodgers
@MarkRodgers 8 жыл бұрын
I have been an atheist for over 20 years. I have recently discovered Dr. Carrier. He is now one of my new heroes. I purchased his new book, "On the Historicity of Jesus: Why We Might Have Reason for Doubt" on Audible and I'm fascinated with the extent of the evidence supporting his claim. It is rather obvious to me, and to anyone else who isn't brainwashed to resist, how Christianity is a total fabrication. I will continue to support him and his work as much as possible. Thank you Dr. Carrier.
@MarkRodgers
@MarkRodgers 8 жыл бұрын
Dude, you don't make any sense. I study people and why they believe in such nonsense. You are more evidence of delusional thinking. Thanks.
@paradisecityX0
@paradisecityX0 8 жыл бұрын
This guy's your "hero", even though he cheated on his wife and basically screws hookers and heifers because he can't get enough, and resorts to begging for dates online (not kidding, you can look for yourself). Not to mention his ego the size of a cathedral. The best thing the atheist community can do honestly is to not keep stroking Carrier’s ego. He’s a self-promoting sjw, hypocrite, and a narcissist who thinks anything he writes on anything is gold despite those who are more studied and better informed than he in all areas constantly point out his flaws (and when he debates, he resorts to ad hominems and blatantly disrespects his opponents or anyone who criticizes him - even fellow atheists), and this is not just Christians doing this. Online, you can find atheists correcting Carrier on Bayes’ Theorem, science in the medieval ages, and the historical Jesus (as if the "Jesus-was-a-mythical-celestial-being-before-he-was-historical" conspiracy theory ever had any water). It takes quite a lot of mental gymnastics to be a mythicist. "I will continue to support him and his work as much as possible. Thank you Dr. Carrier.", you sound just like his new fans who are impressionable enough to find him even remotely convincing. I'm beginning to wonder if he pays people to write that on his vids. This is a guy you want representing you? He's basically the Ray Comfort of atheism (except Carrier is actually smarter, but no-less an embarrassment to his ideology). I cannot fathom how any honest sincere truth-seeker would trust this clown (unless they have heavy anti-Christian bias). Sorry for the rant, but it just irks me when a wannabe-scholar tries to butcher history and gets praise for it, let alone be called a "hero" of any kind. MLK was a hero, Ghandi was a hero, even Che Guevara was a hero (albeit a controversial one). And they all actually made a beneficial difference.
@paradisecityX0
@paradisecityX0 8 жыл бұрын
+Andy LH As I said, those who are better informed on the subject than he could ever be (actual scholars - who have devoted their lives to the study of the life of Jesus; Christian, agnostic, atheist and Jewish alike) have come to the rational conclusion, that Jesus did in fact walk the earth, was baptized by John the Baptist and was crucified (though his divine status and various other things he did are subjective and divided among the various scholars who study his life); this is a rather tired analogy but mythicism is about as credible as young earth creationism and holocaust/climate change denial. All Carrier does is recycle arguments from the early 1900s that have already been debunked. Mythicism is essentially no different than any other crackpot conspiracy theory (that's the best way to describe it really) - one that only the staunchest of anti-Christians would buy into (but curiosity on the other hand is perfectly understandable, Jesus is -and always has been - the most controversial person in the history of the world). "That a Jesus character walked on water, rose from the dead, is as ridiculous as Mohammed flying into the skies on a winged horse.", not at all, seeing as Jesus was (according to Christianity) God incarnate, it's perfectly reasonable that he'd be well able to do such things. And everybody knows Muhammad died of a fever (speaking of which, I heard he's planning on trying to disprove his existence as well). And you wonder why he only speaks at atheist conventions instead of history seminars. Anyway, "In fact, if one accepts we're animals, the instinctive desire to mate with multiple members of the opposite sex is apparent in most species", that justifies his adultery? No wonder he's trying so hard to make his case. Either Jesus existed and was the savior (in which case, he'd be accountable for his wrongdoings, not only his adultury but being a colossal douchebag in general) or he didn't exist at all; an all-or-nothing kinda deal I guess. "At least Carrier hasn't butchered witches, gays, non-believers and believers of other faiths as Christians and Muslims have abundantly done over centuries", nah but people like him have done all that and more/worse in the last century than the past centuries combined (Soviet Russia was packed with mythicists and other ego-maniacal anti-Christians...just replace witches with priests & nuns or anyone associated with the church...or God in general). But let's stop pointing fingers. "I think this is the reason, Catholic clergy who are not allowed to have spouses, frequently engage in paedophilia and are inclined to bugger choirboys", and that was their choice. Do believers in general condone THEIR actions? Nope. "If your sanctimonious hypocrisy wasn't so funny it would be pathetic", how am I a hypocrite again? And seeing as you find any of this "funny", tells me a bit about you. Anyway that's all beside the point. Back to the matter at hand; do you realize how far removed other ancient historical works are from the dates they actually happened? Some by hundreds of years, but we don't doubt that they are true, do we? Same for other certain figures. So if you're gonna advocate the fringe mythicist viewpoint that Jesus didn't exist, why don't you start compiling a whole list of people from thousands of years ago who we generally agree existed, yet can't triangulate or come up with enough "proof" to satisfy application of the scientific method? It's only fair, isn't it? I mean, why pick specifically on Jesus unless you have some kind of biased agenda (oh wait, you do). Trust me, if you put half as much effort into trying to "disprove" them, you'll come to the same conclusion for them as you do Jesus, I promise you. But I will say that the fake white-skinned, light-brown-haired, blue-eyed Jesus (who generally comes to mind when it comes to this) certainly did not exist. But the olive-skinned Hebrew Yeshua (but we'll just call him Jesus) certainly did. Anyway, I apologize if I sounded rude, it's been a long day.
@paradisecityX0
@paradisecityX0 8 жыл бұрын
+Andy LH The Flood wasn't global, but it was based on the Tigris/Euphrates region, one of epic proportions that ended up in over 200 ancient writings, almost all of which all depict a man or a king on a boat. No there's no evidence for the Israelites in Egypt (which is understandable, given the circumstances) and I wouldn't expect there to be any traces of anyone in the desert (let's say you drop something in the sand and you return a week or even a few days later, it's gone forever). Anyway, I was just talking about Jesus lol. As for Eden, the Flood, the Exodus, I mostly just consider them allegorical myth and exaggeration, respectively. "Also, consider this: The closest extra-biblical accounts of the resurrection was from Tacitus, 50 years or so after the alleged event. Can you imagine, simply the biggest story in all humankind’s existence, and no external reports until many decades afterwards. So, in conclusion, there is only speculation and anecdote. And a body of historical “fact” based on anecdote is not particularly plausible", let's clear something up; how much evidence would we expect to find that a radical preacher from rural Galilee existed in the first century? None (it's not something the Romans would care about). So a lack of evidence about Jesus would just confirm that. And the Jews mostly had oral tradition. Correct me if I’m wrong, but the general theory that Jesus never walked the earth is that some people made up some sort of fictious divine being called Jesus, God-knows-when for God-knows-what purpose, which later people mistakenly thought was a real person, right? I need to see some credible evidence that this conspiracy actually happened and is entirely the case before I will even entertain the idea of taking mythicism seriously. A lack of evidence that Jesus was a real person does not suggest he was a mythological invention. I mean wealso have to take into account of various other historical figures who weren't mentioned until decades - even centuries after they lived. I mean the first emperor of China wasn't mentioned until more than a hundred years after his death (and look at all the larger-than-life feats he accomplished). "the bible (i.e. your god's word) displayed no understanding of chemistry, physics, biology, astronomy or geology", and why would it? For one, that would spoil discovery. Two, what would the Israelties do with that information? They were mostly uneducated. It would likely just confuse them more. And the whole "6 days" thing could be better explained in various commentaries, of course it wasn't actually 6 days or nights in our perspective. The OT was pretty gruesome, but it mostly chronicled what people did back then. People took it farther than it should have so God came as a human/man to not only walk among humans but set things right (but that again got out of hand eventually, but that's result of people's choices). And as I'm a history buff, I just get fired up when people try to rewrite it (even before I found God, I was always against the theory that he never walked the earth). If Carriers "morals" are found wanting, what does that say about his bias? You can tell how hard he tries (and clearly he's not sincere). The fringe theory, mythicism, is that he never walked the earth. Not that he just wasn't the son of God (which is just about every belief outside Christianity and Messianic Judaism). That was kinda my point as well. Christians and people of just about all other faiths and beliefs, even agnostics and most atheists, know he existed as a historical figure. Except Christians and Messianic Jews accept he was the son of God. And the fringe among atheists (mythicists) assert he never existed at all.
@paradisecityX0
@paradisecityX0 8 жыл бұрын
"Gullible" means you'd believe anything without question. I've struggled with that question for a long time before I came to the conclusion that he must be the son of God (but I've always been against the Christ-myth theory even as an atheist). And basically The Egyptians' defeat by the Hittites...the Egyptians weren't known for admitting their defeats (the pseudo-historical Exodus has well-implied this), that's one reasons they stayed so powerful for so many centuries. "Many Christians have gone to lengths to fake evidence, in an effort to propagate the myth, and have been found out", that's dishonesty on their part. And history has had it's fair share of atheist liars (but let's not point fingers). So basically you're saying "prayer doesn't work because I didn't get what I want". Prayers are always answered, even if the answer is no. You operate under the premise that miracles are impossible, let me share my examples which science cannot explain. First, there's a woman who swam a mile from a boat to shore in the sea off of Antarctica. It took her 20 minutes in water that was 33 degrees Fahrenheit. Second, there was a man who flew in the wheelwell of a jet for about 11 hours at 35000 feet at temperatures of -35 degrees Fahrenheit with little-to-no oxygen. Third, there was a window washer man who fell 30 stories in NYC and landed on the sidewalk and lived. Fourth, there is a picture of a man in India who is on his hands and knees, bare-chested, and wearing only a cloth around his waist. His head is buried in the sand. Money was being donated in a dish near his neck. Preemptively he still lived. Lastly, a baby fell from a 10-storied window, and was unharmed. Also I heard of a guy crossing the Grand Canyon on a trip-wire (but I need to look more into that). Please scientifically explain how these things are humanely possible. "no mention of N.Europe, The Americas, Far East, Australasia etc.", why would it need to? As I've implied, that would spoil discovery. As for sciences, they weren't at that stage yet. Your argument just falls down to "God would do this, God would do that" and cry bs. You're not God, are you? "No, it all points to a parochial god of the bible written by a people ignorant of the sciences and geographies beyond their own epochI don’t know if you’ve invested heavily (emotionally, financially, time) in this belief system, but it doesn’t appear to hold up to any level of scrutiny or logic.", not if you actually take the time to try and learn more about it instead of looking only to what can be seen - while dissecting everything that doesn't fall under your standards - or try to understand the circumstances. Yours is one (rather one-sided) conclusion, not the only one.
@MasterOfSparks
@MasterOfSparks 10 жыл бұрын
Wait... the Bible says I can have sex slaves? I was an atheist but... I guess I'm a christian now. Now all I have to do is convince my wife.
@RandyLeftHandy
@RandyLeftHandy 9 жыл бұрын
Just because you can have morals, doesn't mean that you are obligated to have morals.
@MEILNIETCERAFT
@MEILNIETCERAFT 9 жыл бұрын
The National Razor lol
@olfan92
@olfan92 2 жыл бұрын
Yes but only if they are christian sex slaves.
@armyofninjas9055
@armyofninjas9055 2 жыл бұрын
Convice her? Just take the biblical route and beat her near to death with a stick the thickness of your thumb. . . . . . Don't actually do that. The bible sucks.
@ericscaillet2232
@ericscaillet2232 Жыл бұрын
just as long as you're happy she can have some as well,good to go....
@debrasmith7584
@debrasmith7584 10 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video. He made it easy for none scientific minds to understand. Entertaining and educational . Thank you for posting.
@AmitKumar-qz2us
@AmitKumar-qz2us 3 жыл бұрын
Religion has ever been anti-human, anti-woman, anti-life, anti-peace, anti-reason and anti-science. The god idea has been detrimental not only to humankind but to the earth. It is time now for reason, education and science to take over. Madalyn Murray O'Hair
@travisjazzbo3490
@travisjazzbo3490 3 жыл бұрын
he does an excellent job at that I agree. I wish everyone could be introduced to him and learn from him.
@misscameroon8062
@misscameroon8062 Жыл бұрын
@@AmitKumar-qz2us well, you poor American Judeo-Christian devils; should get aquatinted with Classical Greek mythology...it would help you what religion could be, the fuc...ki...ng jew-christian relgious virus poisoned everything
@Tchado1000
@Tchado1000 7 жыл бұрын
The outsider test of faith is what led me to leave Islam , it literally saved my life.
@daltonlucas5529
@daltonlucas5529 4 жыл бұрын
You deserve an atta boy!
@SportsSize
@SportsSize 3 жыл бұрын
@Alpha Omega don’t tell him that 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@freekrosebest769
@freekrosebest769 3 жыл бұрын
Religion to control you smh
@Theroadneverending
@Theroadneverending 3 жыл бұрын
A horrible religion. I’m glad you are safe
@FactStorm
@FactStorm 3 жыл бұрын
Good, but I'm afraid most people aren't like you, their cognitive dissonance is in full-force.
@paulamccabe6588
@paulamccabe6588 7 жыл бұрын
I'd like to hear more about the damage caused by Christian delusion. I've considered lots of instances where, ironically, the delusion facilitates, if not propagates immorality; vilifying critics, thinking the environment is "in God's hands", science as a conspiracy, homosexuality as evil, men as superior, etc. It can be used to validate any immoral act.
@FactStorm
@FactStorm 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. Pseudoscience (like miracles, prophecies, Noah's Ark, Adam & Eve, Creationism, talking serpents, splitting of the moon)..along with homophobia, sexism witch trials, crusades, inquisitions, caliphates. The list never ends with religious cults and their ramifications.
@lloydtucker5647
@lloydtucker5647 3 жыл бұрын
@@FactStorm I was a devout believer for many years but over time rational thought, logic and common sense slowly sank in. Earlier this year I reached a threshold realizing what I believed is just fantasy.
@FactStorm
@FactStorm 3 жыл бұрын
@@lloydtucker5647 Too bad most people aren't like you and are too indoctrinated to rise above religion
@lloydtucker5647
@lloydtucker5647 3 жыл бұрын
_"I'd like to hear more about the damage caused by Christian delusion"_ King James, who gave the world his King James Bible Translation, conducted witch hunts in the late 1500s into the 1600s because he believed witches were using curses and spells to assonate him. A lot of people were tortured and murdered because of his delusional insanity.
@elijahmustafa5589
@elijahmustafa5589 3 жыл бұрын
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@Joelmonterrey
@Joelmonterrey 8 жыл бұрын
This is incredible. I'm a social science student and I'm really impressed with Dr Carrier. Many thanks to all who worked to pull this lecture together!
@Joelmonterrey
@Joelmonterrey 7 жыл бұрын
Kapt'n Pee You online name is "Kapt'n Pee," and you're laughing at social science. Sure.
@Joelmonterrey
@Joelmonterrey 7 жыл бұрын
That's religion, not science. You're really not sure what you're talking about, huh? Fine, let the atheist explain the Bible yet again: Proverbs 18:18, Acts 1:26, 1 Sam. 10:20-24, Luke 1:9, Neh. 11:1, Num. 26:52-56
@Joelmonterrey
@Joelmonterrey 7 жыл бұрын
Sure. The point is Christianity, Islam, Judaism, is nothing more than a mythological club. I like its members very much. However, wouldn't it be nice to have a club for folks who are not so into the "alternative facts" for a change?
@BramSLI1
@BramSLI1 6 жыл бұрын
This right here says it ALL! Dr. Carrier has become one of my heroes and I don't care if my family thinks I'm nuts for being an Atheist and a Mythicist. Their beliefs are as kooky to me as finding a clown out on the street dancing to music in his head while reciting Edgar Allen Poe backwards.
@AC-yq2fx
@AC-yq2fx 2 жыл бұрын
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@rtobar8058
@rtobar8058 3 жыл бұрын
"If you did pray this would be a proof of answered prayer" Love Carrier.
@TheForeverfree1
@TheForeverfree1 9 жыл бұрын
A few of the biggest problems I had was that deep down I knew something was wrong with being a Christian. I wasn't really very christlike at all. As a Christian I had to be very judgemental of others & 'look down' on unbelievers. I had to look at others as a 'them' that needed rescuing from their lives. I had to always be ready to 'help' everyone else - to be constantly unselfish. I was told by pastors - I had to be more compassionate, more generous, more, more, more - I was never enough. But, when I became bipolar - the most abusive to me were a lot (not all) of the Christian pastors. I am very glad to be really alive now & away from all the endoctrinations I had to 'live' the bible - I had to be at church at least 3-4 times a week. It is worse than a delusion to me, as I look back. It can literally ruin your thinking!!! Thank you....
@eddieadams4770
@eddieadams4770 8 жыл бұрын
God=Magic. Science=Understanding. Children and the ignorantly simple and the delusional believe in magic.
@eddieadams4770
@eddieadams4770 8 жыл бұрын
+TEXP32 And that has what to do with the primitiveness and stupidity and murderous nature of the Christian God? The Christian God likes to go door to door personally murdering babies and the only way He knows not to kill the babies of his followers is if they wipe lamb blood on their front doors. Naw, nothing absurdly primitive about this all knowing God right? It's perfectly explainable why a God who knows everything about everyone would need a front door blood marker to stop Him from killing the wrong baby, right? Exodus: 12:7 And they shall take of the blood, and strike it on the two side posts and on the upper door post of the houses, wherein they shall eat it. (12:7) "They shall take of the blood, and strike it on the two side posts and on the upper door post of the houses" 12:8 And they shall eat the flesh in that night, roast with fire, and unleavened bread; and with bitter herbs they shall eat it. 12:9 Eat not of it raw, nor sodden at all with water, but roast with fire; his head with his legs, and with the purtenance thereof. 12:10 And ye shall let nothing of it remain until the morning; and that which remaineth of it until the morning ye shall burn with fire. 12:11 And thus shall ye eat it; with your loins girded, your shoes on your feet, and your staff in your hand; and ye shall eat it in haste: it is the LORD's passover. 12:12 For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the LORD. (12:12a) "I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; " 12:13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt.
@vincebois4863
@vincebois4863 8 жыл бұрын
+Eddie Adams you demonstrate the same attitude as the Nazis did towards the Jews believing one religion to be evil thinking your belief is in the right over everyone's religion. I would say you are just as fundamentalist as any religiin in claiming you hold the superiority exclusivity. Maybe insteading of trolling how about improving on the human condition in giving to charity, volunteer at a soup kitcheen or give to the homeless.
@eddieadams4770
@eddieadams4770 8 жыл бұрын
That you would even try and compare an anonymous opinion on the bible on a comment board to Nazis slaughtering millions of Jews in a World War demonstrates lack of common sense and education.
@eddieadams4770
@eddieadams4770 8 жыл бұрын
"I could say sir you hold the same traits of lack of education and common sense in comparing Christians" ------------------- No you can't. Both Christians and Muslims worship warring, murdering, torturing, misanthropic middle eastern sky fairies. In fact, it's technically the same sky fairy. Both have committed atrocities on grand scales in the name of their God. Both the bible and the Koran have their Gods ordering the most horrendous of crimes. It's called analogy. Your God is a sociopathic mass murderer and torturer. Face reality. Leviticus 25:44-46New Living Translation (NLT) 44 “However, you may purchase male and female slaves from among the nations around you. 45 You may also purchase the children of temporary residents who live among you, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, 46 passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat them as slaves, but you must never treat your fellow Israelites this way. Exodus 15:3King James Version (KJV) 3 The Lord is a man of war: the Lord is his name. Numbers 25:4New International Version (NIV)4 The Lord said to Moses, “Take all the leaders of these people, kill them and hang them in broad daylight before the Lord, so that the Lord’s fierce anger may turn away from Israel Exodus 21:1-11 7 “If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do. Luke 19:27New International Version But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.'"
@vincebois4863
@vincebois4863 8 жыл бұрын
Then Eddie in you infinite wisdom ,if we eliminated God and both Muslim and Christian religion all together, then what explanation can you give to who is responsible for the atrocities committed by the Vikings, the Roman Empire, the Aztecs, the Mongolian Empire, the million to perish under the atheist states of Russia, China and North Korea, war crimes committed by the Japaneses military to civilians in War World Two or the violence committed by gangs in North America where there no belief of the Christian or Muslim God. Who is responsible for these actions?
@Jonboy176
@Jonboy176 9 жыл бұрын
Grow your own Dope ... Plant a Christian
@stuart3178
@stuart3178 3 жыл бұрын
Grow your own Dope... Plant an Atheist. Who doesn't believe in a God and believed everything came from nothing.
@travisjazzbo3490
@travisjazzbo3490 3 жыл бұрын
@@stuart3178 #1. No one believes that. A simple Google search will explain what the means #2 Obviously you believe everything has a creator... you're rule... then who created your God? Let me guess... you BROKE YOUR RULE... right? #3 If there is a God, prove to me it is YOUR GOD and not any of the hundreds or thousands of others. Oh... you can't? What a shock!
@ayoutuber1280
@ayoutuber1280 3 жыл бұрын
Some intelligent people are Christians or believe in God yet just follow a different religion. Do you stand for such blanket statements against other groups? Or just Christians.
@slumberzzzz
@slumberzzzz 8 жыл бұрын
When bullshit is hammered into vulnerable minds of kids endlessly they will go on believing that for a pretty long time.
@paulvossus4282
@paulvossus4282 8 жыл бұрын
So what is your definition of bullshit? Is it humans are the highest being or God is God? Why to God, or why to humans? If humans, then how do you deal with the Hebrew history of God? If God, then how do you deal with humanism and other God besides the one God and his son Jesus? You see, how you deal with the definition of bullshit is how you deal with what is traditionally good parenting or define abuse. Please explain yourself. Bullshit is hammered into every child's mind - some is beneficial and some is not.
@halfthefiber
@halfthefiber 8 жыл бұрын
I don't even think it needs to be hammered onto their minds, as children are very impressionable. Whatever their parents tell them during their formative years, they'll believe without question.
@paulvossus4282
@paulvossus4282 8 жыл бұрын
halfthefiber Well, I grew up Roman Catholic and at age 18 I tossed it all out and rebuilt my mind and ideas to be historical Jesus and I did leave much behind of my formative years. I questioned them since they were based on Humans rules and not on Jesus teaching. simple, easy to do since why base my life on rules and false laws?? so, out they went and new laws of Love took there place.
@neldanie
@neldanie 8 жыл бұрын
It would be more convincing if you grew up Catholic and became muslim; or even better: an atheist. Christianty in one form or another. You were taught to believe in a god. Which is what you are doing. Basing your life on false laws.
@paulvossus4282
@paulvossus4282 8 жыл бұрын
Danie Nel Changing from Catholic to any other faith is amazing. I could easily be an atheist if history is wrong. But the historical Jesus is well attested but never 100% since all the eyewitnesses are very dead.
@DymondLoves
@DymondLoves 4 жыл бұрын
Okay can i put him in my pocket and take him home? He is the most adorable doctor i have ever been privy to. He's also so smart and i love his lighthearted delivery
@zilchnilton
@zilchnilton 10 жыл бұрын
Great speech but it will unfortunately fall on deaf ears amongst Christians.
@gridcaster
@gridcaster 10 жыл бұрын
it doesn't fall on deaf ears entirely. intelligent people, including some christians, have certainly clicked on this video and watched it. as a christian, i will tell you that i watched the whole thing. the mockery and joking jeering that has nothing to do with the actual information being presented (joking about prayer in the beginning when the projector wasn't working, for example) nearly caused me to just move on. if you are trying to actually reach people it regarding anything, certainly something so sensitive as faith, you would do better to leave your smirk filled countenance behind.
@8080pop
@8080pop 10 жыл бұрын
gridcaster Believe me I understand how you feel. I grew up a Roman Catholic and if I watched this 5 years ago it would have pissed me off to absolutely no end. The reason that atheists sometimes mock the bible is because we realize now that it is completely ridiculous. I don't mean to offend, I understand as a Christian the Bible is a serious thing to you. The best way I can explain the Bible in the view of an atheist is like this. We were raised through this holy book and told to believe everything in it or go and burn in hell for all eternity. Then we go to school, learn some realities of the world, come back home and find that the book we were taught our whole lives is basically an ancient version of Harry Potter, and people take it seriously, base laws off of it, and force others to believe it. Try and imagine a world where everybody worships Harry Potter, or Big Foot. That is basically how the world is to an atheist. So frankly, the people who believe the stuff are easy to make fun of.
@koltirasrip5775
@koltirasrip5775 10 жыл бұрын
Speeches like this aren't intended to be listened to by Christians. I doubt there's a single Christian in that audience. The whole thing would've been worded differently if religious peeps were the target.
@jimrobertson5386
@jimrobertson5386 10 жыл бұрын
We Christians love keeping liars like this guy in check! Just another poison peddler like his mentor, Professor Richard Dawkins!
@jimrobertson5386
@jimrobertson5386 10 жыл бұрын
How would you know? I can see you're limited!
@GODTHESOOTHSAYER1
@GODTHESOOTHSAYER1 9 жыл бұрын
CHRISTIANITY DEFINED! The belief that a supernatural deity, had sent himself to this earth, as His own Son, to have Himself sacrificed to Himself, by being crucified and killed, and then resurrected for the sins of an imperfect, inconsequential primate creature, so that He could teach them a lesson about their own faltering indiscretions. Then, the Son of God, who is God The Father Himself, would send Himself upward into the cosmos above to Himself, to be reunited with Himself, in an ulterior supernatural dimension, where He awaits His own return, so that He could be unified with Himself, to sit by the side of Himself The Father, as the Holy Spirit, who is also The Father God. Sinfulness, was the punishment preordained to have been given to this primordial race of primate species, as penance for their insolence. The first created, unclothed, leaf clad free willed offenders, that had besmirched the honor of this almighty deity would suffer the consequences for their non-compliance and non-observance of this Deities' wishes. From this day on, and until the final days of humanity, the offspring of the human race would suffer the pangs of painfulness and death, for as long as they are born onto this earth. But, rejoice, there is still hope. By praying, and praising The trinity of God, and offering endless invigilation, upon death, the human being will be reconstructed and sent to a heavenly paradise, to live in complete harmonious blissfulness, with the deity that so lovingly placed this suffering upon him for eternity.
@vladimirjosh6575
@vladimirjosh6575 5 жыл бұрын
@Star Trek Theory 😂😂😂😂
@giocommentary
@giocommentary 4 жыл бұрын
@Star Trek Theory ??? you okay? yuou seem rather uneducated if that is your best argument. Go back to school.
@giocommentary
@giocommentary 4 жыл бұрын
@Star Trek Theory ??? again you make no sense why are you here what is the purpose? are you just venting? Religious people are so peculiar.
@unggrabb
@unggrabb 3 жыл бұрын
Insane
@cybermollusk
@cybermollusk 2 жыл бұрын
Did you watch this whole video?
@sophonax661
@sophonax661 6 жыл бұрын
I wished I had stumbled upon this video 7 years ago! Great performance and I will buy the books.
@alladinaharunani2515
@alladinaharunani2515 3 жыл бұрын
I can only Imagine how smart I would be if Richard were my friend.
@garybell1291
@garybell1291 9 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation and an all encompassing overview of the insanity of Christian beliefs. If atheism can accomplish a 10% reduction in religiosity per decade then stone-age dogmas can be eliminated within a hundred years. Thankyou Richard from humanity.
@wmthewyld
@wmthewyld 9 жыл бұрын
Gary Bell The top 3 countries in the world:Norway-82% belong to Christian denominations. Denmark-State religion is Christianity Australia-61.1% of the Australian population declaring some variety of Christianity. Atheist here on KZfaq suffer from a deep psychosis.
@garybell1291
@garybell1291 9 жыл бұрын
Idiot atheist Norway 82% Evangelical Lutherans, 22% believe in a god. Denmark 78% Evangelical Lutherans, 28% believe in a god, you are confusing social customs with belief in gods. Australia 61% Christian mostly Catholic down from 95% in 1950, churches are closing in record numbers, again belief is mostly through social customs, I know because it is my home country. The last census where these Australian figures come from were asking what religion you were born under, the next census where the question is being revised to what religion you are practicing, we're expecting that figure to be 30% and falling rapidly. There is no correlation between religiosity and prosperity, Sudan 99% religious = a shit hole, Nigeria 99% religious = a shit hole. My figures say the religion ruins your country, your comment is pointless and fallacy.
@wmthewyld
@wmthewyld 9 жыл бұрын
Gary Bell The top 3 happiest countries in the world: Norway-82% belong to Christian denominations. Denmark-State religion is Christianity Australia-61.1% of the Australian population declaring some variety of Christianity. Atheist here on KZfaq suffer from a deep psychosis. Sudan 99% religious = a shit hole, Nigeria 99% religious = a shit hole both of these countries are Muslim. "your comment is pointless and fallacy." my facts are true and you can't deal with the facts.
@garybell1291
@garybell1291 9 жыл бұрын
Idiot atheist No I showed you that census figures can be worded in many different ways and belief in a god (24%) was very low in Norway and Denmark, in fact they believe in spirit beings 70%, not only that but there are 41,000 different Christian cults (see Wikipedia for a list). You were making a fallacy that religion corresponds with being "top?" and now happiness after I showed the error in your thinking. The census figures in Australia were completely false because the census asked which religion you were born under. Polls show that religious belief in Australia is around the 35% mark down from 95% in the 1950's. There are extinct churches all over the place and they're shutting every week, we use them for coffee houses, art galleries, private homes and even local museums. In Victoria alone 450 churches have closed in the last decade.
@wmthewyld
@wmthewyld 9 жыл бұрын
Gary Bell because you are ignorant of the facts: www.forbes.com/pictures/mef45ejmi/the-worlds-happiest-and-saddest-countries-2/
@valerieangell7588
@valerieangell7588 5 жыл бұрын
I never get tired of Richard Carrier...watch everything he does.
@daltonlucas5529
@daltonlucas5529 4 жыл бұрын
Are you saying you watch everything he does? Like a voyeur? Or are you telling us to watch everything he does?
@diaryofnricom163
@diaryofnricom163 2 жыл бұрын
Are you still as creepy as you were a year ago?
@GeraldReynolds
@GeraldReynolds 8 жыл бұрын
yes... belief in God is no different than believing in magic
@Verrisin
@Verrisin 8 жыл бұрын
+Gerald Reynolds ... Quite different: (christian type) God is nonsense; magic is unexplained science. Magic will become science at some point, God won't.
@GeraldReynolds
@GeraldReynolds 8 жыл бұрын
Martin Verrisin you're contradicting yourself
@GeraldReynolds
@GeraldReynolds 8 жыл бұрын
And by the way get your own argument
@Verrisin
@Verrisin 8 жыл бұрын
Gerald Reynolds In what way do I contradict myself? What argument do I miss on?
@Verrisin
@Verrisin 8 жыл бұрын
I don't mean fairy tale magic, btw. I mean magic there is evidence for: stuff that is unexplained by science. Some magic is obviously nonsense: of course, no sane person believes that. Other is just unexplained. - All I said literally followed from definitions.
@marcdaniels9079
@marcdaniels9079 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you KZfaq Algorithm for bringing me this gem. BRILLIANT!
@buzzardbeatniks
@buzzardbeatniks 10 жыл бұрын
Richard Carrier seems like a very pleasant person.
@tiffsaver
@tiffsaver 10 жыл бұрын
True. But I'm quite sure that Christians must view him as the Anti Christ.
@rodneylopez7147
@rodneylopez7147 4 жыл бұрын
Truth is unpleasant
@ryanmatson8097
@ryanmatson8097 4 жыл бұрын
He’s always been super-pleasant every time I’ve interacted with him...
@buzzardbeatniks
@buzzardbeatniks 3 жыл бұрын
@ you can be a bad person and still be pleasant
@adumberfling9959
@adumberfling9959 3 жыл бұрын
@ u should make a video about...
@joeturner1597
@joeturner1597 6 жыл бұрын
Once upon a time no one knew what happened. So they made up some shit. The end.
@operatorbutt4265
@operatorbutt4265 6 жыл бұрын
Joe Turner yep, and they called it evolution
@TBOTSS
@TBOTSS 6 жыл бұрын
Joe I take it you are aware the William Lane Craig pissed all over Carrier.
@joeturner1597
@joeturner1597 6 жыл бұрын
I knew someone that happened to when I was in the RN. Poor bugger hated sleeping in a mess after that.
@rstevewarmorycom
@rstevewarmorycom 6 жыл бұрын
TheLastCheezCurd No, that came later when they figured out what REALLY happened.
@rstevewarmorycom
@rstevewarmorycom 6 жыл бұрын
TBOTSS Only idiots imagine that was true.
@HarryNicNicholas
@HarryNicNicholas 3 жыл бұрын
my girlfriend is schizophrenic and autistic, i have a carers certificate (not much i know but i did no homework and passed with 93%, just on intuition) and i've not only been in therapy (voluntarily), but i've known my GF for six years, i realised within days of going out with her that whenever she behaved erratically saying "you're imagining things" was never going to get the response "yes, you're right, i'm having a delusion". religious people act this way, their god is real, it's me that's not seeing things right, they can't possibly be mistaken, i'm the one who is evil and out to get them, god talks to them if i can't hear then it's my fault.
@jojothejanitor2134
@jojothejanitor2134 3 жыл бұрын
As an ex-Christian, I'll save you the time of watching the video. Yes, we are.
@ELISainta
@ELISainta 3 жыл бұрын
Whatever you do don't call the bible or religion an opinion as they're very insecure about their faith and any little question or jab at it will get them into a frenzy, in my experience at least trying to debate my youth group, as i found out they don't know shit bout the bible nor rational thinking, as told by one of the youth organizers "these kids weren't ever taught to think for themselves about these questions they were taught just to believe", so their not even hiding their contemt anymore.
@jojothejanitor2134
@jojothejanitor2134 3 жыл бұрын
@@ELISainta I get what you're saying, but people need to realize what they're book really says and be asked important questions about God. I'm grateful to my non-religious friend for asking me questions about Christianity. He asked me stuff like, "If God is real, then why do insects exist that can go into children's eyeballs in Africa and eat them from the inside out?" I didn't give him a bullshit answer out of defending my ego. I simply said, "I don't honestly know. I'm going to need some time to think about that one." That's when I started questioning things about my faith as well.
@Orica27
@Orica27 10 жыл бұрын
I will have to buy the book when I get the extra cash and check it out. I enjoyed watching.
@jimrobertson5386
@jimrobertson5386 10 жыл бұрын
Books like his make great toilet paper or you can give it to the eternally damned for an Xmas present! LOL
@DorianMattar
@DorianMattar 10 жыл бұрын
Jim Robertson Is that why we say "holly shit"?
@jimrobertson5386
@jimrobertson5386 10 жыл бұрын
Only if it applies to you, and if you're blessed of course!
@DorianMattar
@DorianMattar 10 жыл бұрын
Jim Robertson You mean blessed like the thousands of children that where raped while your all powerful, all loving, and always there god did nothing but watch over them? With blessings like that, who needs enemies?
@Sportliveonline
@Sportliveonline 7 жыл бұрын
ive come up with this mind blowing site will open every ones eyes just to let you know www.earlychristianwritings.com/index.html
@winstonsmith478
@winstonsmith478 9 жыл бұрын
What an outstanding and fascinating presentation. Just bought the book because of it.
@Tenchi212
@Tenchi212 7 жыл бұрын
Fearing spiders is irrational? Clearly this man has never had a surprise encounter with a Brown Recluse.
@daltonlucas5529
@daltonlucas5529 4 жыл бұрын
I think it was phobia of spiders. Not fear of spiders. And phobias affect ones life in a negative manner. And are much more intense than a simple fear of something.
@sugarnads
@sugarnads 3 жыл бұрын
Brown recluse? Pfff amateur hour. Atrax robustus. Thats a fkn spider to be feared.
@christopherheim5247
@christopherheim5247 2 жыл бұрын
*does not apply in Australia
@gloriannepapolis6525
@gloriannepapolis6525 3 жыл бұрын
"I know of what I speak" Darn right Richard!
@TTbagger
@TTbagger 10 жыл бұрын
we attack all forms of myths when they derange people :)
@rtobar8058
@rtobar8058 4 жыл бұрын
TTbagger Yup, just like Christians claiming that atheism is a faith.
@onesandzeroes
@onesandzeroes 8 жыл бұрын
The definition of Christianity - however crazy and light-hearted - doesn't take into account that Christians don't believe they eat Christ's flesh symbolically. They claim they eat the ACTUAL flesh of Jesus - at least the Catholics, who believe in Transubstantiation, whereby the wafer literally gets transmogrified into Christ's living flesh, which they gladly consume. So the definition doesn't do justice to the insanity that actually goes on there.
@onesandzeroes
@onesandzeroes 8 жыл бұрын
+KJV1611 Only Of course they are Christians, just look up the definition. There are hundreds of denominations of Christianity. They just believe slightly different types of nonsense than you do.
@onesandzeroes
@onesandzeroes 8 жыл бұрын
+KJV1611 Only First of all, I never said what I believe. But I definitely don't need to "believe in evolution" just as I don't "believe that the Earth orbits around the Sun" (because I'm not in the habit of arguing with scientific fact - while still being open to any new scientific consensus which might emerge, including the earth not orbiting the sun). Secondly, if you "believe in the God of the Holy Bible", then you're not a Christian by most definitions and in most Christians' perception, because you don't believe in Christ's divinity (as he never said he was God), and you definitely don't believe in the so called "Trinity", an idea which was never once mentioned in the Bible (and would be considered sacrilegious by the Jews, probably including Jesus himself) and was concocted later and officially incorporated into the doctrine by Constantine in the 4th century (another "Catholic" invention). Not to mention that you probably believe that this "God" is quite a bit of a maniac, as vividly depicted in the Bible.
8 жыл бұрын
KJV1611 Only you morons don't get the irony.
@scienceexplains302
@scienceexplains302 6 жыл бұрын
Pawel X In addition , "magically impregnated" should be "magically raped". God and the patriarchs get to impregnate whomever they wish without concern for consent.
@DeterministicOne
@DeterministicOne 7 жыл бұрын
Speaking of cognitive dissonance. I am still waiting for a response to the following comment I made after a long exchange with a believer. ""things are going according to Gods plan..." "it was not part of God's plan.." You cannot have it both ways."
@markwise2824
@markwise2824 6 жыл бұрын
Randy.... Every System is contingent on something indivisible . " Faith without works is dead" applies to the Atheist also.
@mythbuster1483
@mythbuster1483 4 жыл бұрын
@Star Trek Theory "According to standard biographies, the principal Nazi leaders were all born, baptized, and raised Christian." churchandstate.org.uk/2016/04/the-great-scandal-christianitys-role-in-the-rise-of-the-nazis/
@mythbuster1483
@mythbuster1483 4 жыл бұрын
@hatter00 Thanks, Hatter!
@DeterministicOne
@DeterministicOne 3 жыл бұрын
@SigmaTauri2 Ineffable, yet you speak about it.
@DeterministicOne
@DeterministicOne 3 жыл бұрын
@@markwise2824 Sorry for the late reply. My wife had had dementia this time 3 years ago. Mar will be the 3vyear anniversary of Her death. Life wasn't pleasant. How would "faith without works" apply to atheists?
@JesusChrist-im8xy
@JesusChrist-im8xy 10 жыл бұрын
this is really good, do you have a download for the slides?
@duelz3885
@duelz3885 3 жыл бұрын
Was sup Jesus?
@trugangsta4real
@trugangsta4real 10 жыл бұрын
This guy is 44 years old. I thought he was like maybe 25. Atheism is the key to eternal youth apparently.
@pedroabreu23
@pedroabreu23 10 жыл бұрын
For sure! I even think it's strange to think this "boy" has a Doctor degree. =P
@pedroabreu23
@pedroabreu23 10 жыл бұрын
***** How should I have said? English is not my native language. =P
@genevadixon8426
@genevadixon8426 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, this was 9 years ago! I want to buy the book, if it’s still out there!
@sugarnads
@sugarnads 3 жыл бұрын
For sure. Google him he has a blog you can order it from there and his other books too.
@Brxwn9
@Brxwn9 5 ай бұрын
@@sugarnadsthanks!
@Brxwn9
@Brxwn9 5 ай бұрын
@@sugarnads😊😊
@starboy1100
@starboy1100 Жыл бұрын
Very well thought out and convincing presentation
@MendicantBias1
@MendicantBias1 8 жыл бұрын
"Because religious beliefs are rooted in faith and understood to be an expression of faith, there is little expectation that they will abide by the constraints of observed reality. The content of faith can thus be held as true within the mind, sealed off more or less hermetically from the broader context of cognitive understanding and daily experience." Ben Abelow
@abnercasillas9570
@abnercasillas9570 3 жыл бұрын
It’s like my sister in law that goes 7days a week to church and giving her money
@thunderpooch
@thunderpooch 2 жыл бұрын
fools must part with their money Because God loves gold!
@HarryNicNicholas
@HarryNicNicholas 3 жыл бұрын
my girlfriend, who've I've known for six or seven years, is schizophrenic, and what i learned within a few days of hanging out with her is that if you say "that's not really happening" she never goes "oh yeah, you're right, I'm having a delusion" what makes life interesting is she can be batshit insane.
@sugarnads
@sugarnads 3 жыл бұрын
I lived with my schizophrenic gf (rip 😢) for 8 years. She was aware she was having a hallucination when it was pointed out to her. She had solid understanding and accepted it after the dr explained it to her. The medication worked well for her. which was good coz she stopped regularly trying to kill me. She was a sweet lady once she got some control over what was happening in her head
@itoibo4208
@itoibo4208 9 ай бұрын
@@sugarnads but.... free will!
@sugarnads
@sugarnads 9 ай бұрын
@@itoibo4208 go fk yourself. Schizophrenia is a terrible disease and gronks like you joking about it make me sick to my stomach. She didnt ask to be like that. But you have a choice to be a cnut or not a cnut. Try to not be cnut.
@Brxwn9
@Brxwn9 5 ай бұрын
@@sugarnads sorry that you had to experience someone you love trying to kill you, even though it wasn’t even from her own will (the delusions forcing her). 😢 I’m sure it left a scar, but I hope you’re doing well 😄
@unggrabb
@unggrabb 3 жыл бұрын
"Faith is the concious suspension of rational thought". Religion poisons everything.
@patrickkilduff5272
@patrickkilduff5272 7 жыл бұрын
He should have just walked on stage said 'yes' and dropped the mic....
@Sammy_shammy24
@Sammy_shammy24 3 жыл бұрын
He definitely is 100 percent spot-on from all I've seen and heard
6 жыл бұрын
The breaking of Christianity into a PIZZA was spot on LOL
@SR-mv2mf
@SR-mv2mf 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, they are. Religious indoctrination and the need for some comforting wishful thinking has blinded them.
@seanemch8737
@seanemch8737 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for dressing up for the lecture
@mr3shootr
@mr3shootr 10 жыл бұрын
This guy is killing me with his constant, and perfectly audible, gulps of water. ugh. Good speech nonetheless.
@Scoobydcs
@Scoobydcs 8 жыл бұрын
religion is a wonderful example of just how powerful indoctrination can be
@frankleeseaux
@frankleeseaux 10 жыл бұрын
It makes me happy, and hopeful, as a Louisiana bound atheist, to notice that the number on the license plate is a New Orleans area number.
@bryanleighwooten4186
@bryanleighwooten4186 3 жыл бұрын
Before I called Ricard an idiot. We make choices and I chose to do something disrespectful. For that, I am sorry. EVERYONE has the right to Express their ideas. I believe in God.
@ayoolaayodejidavid638
@ayoolaayodejidavid638 3 жыл бұрын
Richard Carrier is just too good at logical thinking and empiricism - he clarifies things more than expected.
@gloriannepapolis6525
@gloriannepapolis6525 3 жыл бұрын
Chapiro against Carriere, now that would be a fur flying and spit producing debate,
@gloriannepapolis6525
@gloriannepapolis6525 3 жыл бұрын
Chapiro against Carriere, now that would be a fur flying and spit producing debate,
@pleaseenteraname1103
@pleaseenteraname1103 Жыл бұрын
He’s also good at promoting conspiracy theories.
@jannellecox3202
@jannellecox3202 4 жыл бұрын
I have read most of the comments people have made on this mans work . It's amzaing to see how many of you seem to think you know more or better than the Dr. So to those who feel they know better where are your degrees , and associate degrees ? I swear slap people in the face with senceability and still they know more .
@Firecat719
@Firecat719 9 жыл бұрын
Although I fully agree with many of the comments I have read, I do need to refute one incorrect statement, specifically the references to, "holy books that are thousands of years old." The age of the book is not relevant. If the book is valid and speaks truth, it makes no difference if it was 4-years-old or 4,000-years-old. The problem is not necessarily the age of those holy books, it is the contradictions, immorality, fallacies and sadistic nature. However, if by, "thousands of years old," your intent is to cast distaste for adhering to bronze age customs and societal beliefs... oh yeah, I fully agree: that's just friggin' insane! For the record, the bible (the actual book itself) is a little under 1700 years old; with some its writings dating back to about 900 BC. Currently, the oldest known, complete bible is housed in the Vatican and dates to about CE 900.
@Sammy_shammy24
@Sammy_shammy24 3 жыл бұрын
This is by far one of the BEST richard carrier documentary I've seen yet! Btw, what books are the slides from? Help me out here somebody🤔
@thenobleone-3384
@thenobleone-3384 3 жыл бұрын
Just like Richard Carrier I'm a lover of Science. Bill Nye and Neil Degrasse Tyson are my heroes. I can remember growing up watching Bill Nye the Science Guy
@katarishigusimokirochepona6611
@katarishigusimokirochepona6611 3 жыл бұрын
His real name is William Nye the Science Gentleman, but, yeah, he cool. Also Beakman from Beakman’s World.
@thenobleone-3384
@thenobleone-3384 3 жыл бұрын
@@katarishigusimokirochepona6611 Well I want to be a Scientist one day. I like the Royal Institution channel. And Bill Nye and Neil Tyson are inspirations. I want to visit the University of Nottingham it's on my bucket list
@ringojmusic
@ringojmusic 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer brainwashed.
@anthonynuzzo9512
@anthonynuzzo9512 9 жыл бұрын
I thought I would actually hear an accurate presentation of Christianity and then a critique from a skeptical perspective. The problem is I didn't hear a presentation of Christianity at all.
@Trex100
@Trex100 10 жыл бұрын
Dear Rob Lehr of Hambone Productions, who edited this video. I have watched this fucking thing for 4 minutes and the guy hasn't started his presentation yet. Nice editing man (dripping with sarcasm).
@alanmacification
@alanmacification 3 жыл бұрын
There are only three types of " believer " : The deluded, the delusional, and the criminal.
@zemorph42
@zemorph42 9 жыл бұрын
As a former Christian, I take exception to the description of Jesus as a Zombie Jew. There are other kinds of living dead , you know.
@mrsbrownandhercat
@mrsbrownandhercat 6 жыл бұрын
@ Zem - yes dear, you should see my hubby back from the pub on Friday nights.
@je-freenorman7787
@je-freenorman7787 Жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as A Christian, A Muslim or a Jew Those are not species of human They are religious beliefs and are not real Are you a belief? No! Then you are not A Christian A Gospel is a God Spell to DECEIVE YOU WITH The rulers will steal your identity for your own confusion
@ShadowEspada
@ShadowEspada 10 жыл бұрын
If this video cannot convince people religion is evil then they are truly and literally delusional
@mecdrum7
@mecdrum7 4 жыл бұрын
I’m just amazed people still believe in Christian . Lots of my relatives post f b Jesus will save you! Almost every day .I tell them I study Bible and even more can’t understand why they still believe that bullshit.
@Kevo216666
@Kevo216666 10 жыл бұрын
I do wonder what the point of this was. He's clearly asking a question to a bunch of skeptics who'll agree with him. I'm a non believer but what's the point?
@harrygearhart4520
@harrygearhart4520 7 жыл бұрын
slumberzzzz I was one of those kids. but I did use my brain later and figured out that god is not real. Looking back now I would say I was tortured because I remember being scared to death. When my daughter was young I did not tell her about god and jesus, I did not scare her, or take her to church. I raised her to learn about the world, to read and travel. Today she is successful, college educated and rockin and rollin through life. She is aware of climate change caused by man, she is aware that this world is the only world we get, so TAKE CARE OF IT!!!!!!
@jeanettesquires777
@jeanettesquires777 7 жыл бұрын
Harry Gearhart
@alexsahak420
@alexsahak420 8 жыл бұрын
I understand the need to engage in dialogue with people of faith but to insult their God is something an educated well manner person would NOT do. The speaker could learn to respect individuals right to worship or believe in ANY God they wish. I am a Muslim and I am disgusted with the language the speaker uses to Insult Christian God. I AM SORRY MY CHRISTIAN BROTHERS!!!!
@thunderpooch
@thunderpooch 2 жыл бұрын
Blasphemy is a victimless crime. And get over yourself. Your supposed understanding nature provides weak consolation for an equally weak offense.
@stevend.augersr.1218
@stevend.augersr.1218 8 жыл бұрын
when I was unlawfully incarcerated I was forced into a unit where there was only 14 other inmates and about two of them knew how to interpret the laws and file actions with the courts and I dropped out of school after I somehow completed eight grade. I knew I was being held unlawfully due to a false interpretation of a law that allows inmates time off their sentence for good behavior by the prison staff. And when I went to these inmates that understood the laws they continuously disagreed with my interpretation of the law that controls how time is deducted from an inmates maximum release date. Because they kept disagreeing with my interpretation i researched more to show I was right. I researched for about two years and was told by the courts and prison staff and inmates I was wrong? I was released at the stated maximum release date and two years later I wrote the governor of my state explaining my interpretation of the good conduct early release law and told him there was more inmates unlawfully being held because of the misinterpretation of this law. A month later 13 inmates were released, one man was four years over his release date? Some people are not allowed to see and understand what others are allowed to.
@GerardSmitSA
@GerardSmitSA 10 жыл бұрын
Hey Hambone Productions can't you just cut out the first 4 minutes please. To watch how the staff scramble to get Richard Carrier's lecture on the go is embarrassing. This is called editing. Thanks for your effort to put this clip on You Tube. Just cut the first 4 min please.
@MrAzzhloe
@MrAzzhloe 9 жыл бұрын
This guy is a joke, and serves as solid evidence that merely rejecting one unfounded claim does not make you smarter than everyone else.
@ringojmusic
@ringojmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Most people in a cult are.
@ruthlessadmin
@ruthlessadmin 10 жыл бұрын
I remember this was one of the first videos I watched on my way to identifying myself as an atheist.... Had only just opened my mind enough to at least listen to what this side had to say. Was a long and difficult road of cross referencing, checking citations/sources and most difficult of all, ceasing to be willfully ignorant, but WOW: Life has never been sweeter and I have learned sooo much along the way. Actually know the bible better now lol
@glutinousmaximus
@glutinousmaximus 10 жыл бұрын
Q:- How many skeptics does it take to turn on a projector? A:- I can't tell you precisely, but it must include at least one really good-looking female skeptic...
@LJO_Hurts_Pianos
@LJO_Hurts_Pianos 4 жыл бұрын
I don't understand how questioning the historicity of Jesus is ridiculous, which is the common reaction to the position. Everyone points to the Bible as proof undeniable of Christ's existence. Mandy Rice-Davies applies here. "Well [it would, now], wouldn't [it]? I even know non-believers -- a decent number -- who believe Jesus did exist, but the Bible is largely historically-inaccurate garbage.
@brosephmg9808
@brosephmg9808 10 жыл бұрын
The most depressing part of the "atheist v. religious" situation is that most people on both sides are stupid. Almost everyone in the world lacks the intelligence and - more importantly - self-awareness necessary for meaningful discussion.
@duelz3885
@duelz3885 3 жыл бұрын
By virtue of being a skeptic about most things, you’re automatically going to more intelligent than the populations who don’t indulge in skepticism.
@coltermiller1782
@coltermiller1782 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine believing in god in 2020☠
@SNORKYMEDIA
@SNORKYMEDIA 3 жыл бұрын
imagine living in a country in 2020 where 40% beleive in talking snakes and Noah
@michaelpond813
@michaelpond813 2 жыл бұрын
Yes don't call trump a talking snake !!! L. O. L.
@MichaelEstrada
@MichaelEstrada 10 жыл бұрын
I have a bunch of friends, obviously older than I am, who were former gang members, drug addicts, drug dealers, etc .. I have one in particular, Art Blajos author of the book Blood In Blood Out. Art Blajos before becoming a Christian was a former hitman for the California's Prison Gang, The Mexican Mafia. So my question to Richard would be if an ex Mexican Mafia hitman, or for that matter even ex drug cartel members who are now Christian, are they delusional now as Christians? And if so, would it be better for them to return to the state of their first being?
@oremfrien
@oremfrien 9 жыл бұрын
If I could answer in his stead: (1) I do not know anything particular about Art Blajos himself or your former gang-member friends, but I would say, yes, they are delusional. A delusion is not determined by the effect that it has on a person, i.e. whether it improves or worsens their quality of life, but whether it is discordant from reality. As Christianity is discordant from reality (as demonstrated in this talk), it is delusional. (2) Would it be better if they reverted to being drug dealers? No. Society would be worse off if these people committed social ills. However, what would be optimal would be if they could leave Christianity, but with the positive morality they had acquired during their time as Christians. If that is not possible, it is better that they continue to stay in the delusion where they are less of a danger to themselves and society at large.
@CulturedWhiteBoy
@CulturedWhiteBoy 3 жыл бұрын
This guy is 42-years-old here! How the hell is that possible?
@TheBancNonius
@TheBancNonius 8 жыл бұрын
This stuff is pretty entertaining. Funny in some parts. I'm agnostic, used to be hard core atheist. I find his arguments funny but not hugely compelling. Most of it it sort of a historian's attempt at being scientific accompanied by a good dose of "proof by ridicule". But the Jewish Zombie thing had me laughing!
@TheBancNonius
@TheBancNonius 8 жыл бұрын
I think you meant "and is boring".
@MarkJones-gd3nt
@MarkJones-gd3nt 6 жыл бұрын
All right! everybody pray!!!😁
@michaelharris4651
@michaelharris4651 3 жыл бұрын
Nah , not me I’ve tried and it’s like talking to one’s self , there’s nothing there !
@rinharter7758
@rinharter7758 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelharris4651 Then if there's no god,how can you exist?
@Robinfuckable
@Robinfuckable 8 жыл бұрын
Finally a Voice that make sense
@loriw2661
@loriw2661 6 жыл бұрын
I think the originator of that quote is Aron Ra. Although, as a skeptic, if evidence is shown that I’m wrong, I’ll promptly change my mind.
@davidwinters652
@davidwinters652 8 жыл бұрын
The Romans made a huge mistake when they were throwing the christians to the lions...they stopped!
@bobbyduckett5465
@bobbyduckett5465 8 жыл бұрын
I gotta agree. I am hoping that practice makes a come back in a big way.
@neldanie
@neldanie 8 жыл бұрын
+Andy LH - why can't I give you two thumbs up?? ;)
@neldanie
@neldanie 8 жыл бұрын
+Bobby Duckett I kinda agree, but dang, that's quite a nasty thing to say... :(
@55k3v1n
@55k3v1n 10 жыл бұрын
Mockers all having a good laugh. The spiritually dead (natural man) are real comedians. "But the natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness to him (as Richard): neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned" (1 Corinthians 2:14). You're fulfilling prophesy, Richard. In the latter days there shall be mockers, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts (Jude 17)
@55k3v1n
@55k3v1n 10 жыл бұрын
***** Hey, Fisher of Men! Check out William Lane Craig vs. Richard Carrier. Carrier is reduced to a lost child!
@webapalooza
@webapalooza 10 жыл бұрын
55k3v1n Winning a debate (which is a thoroughly subjective matter) is not evidence that the winner is factually correct. If a Holocaust denier "wins" a debate with a Holocaust historian, does that mean the Holocaust did not happen?
@FourDeuce01
@FourDeuce01 10 жыл бұрын
"The spiritually dead (natural man) are real comedians." The intellectually dead are really religious.
@FourDeuce01
@FourDeuce01 10 жыл бұрын
"You're fulfilling prophesy," So are you. There's a sucker born every minute. Every con artist makes "prophecies" like that.
@55k3v1n
@55k3v1n 10 жыл бұрын
FourDeuce01 The Scriptures say you are foolish. A genius can KNOW God exists, and a genius can be a fool, or even idiots like you who think they are "intellectuals". Judgment day is drawing nigh. Better get a good asbestos suit.
@MarkoftheAustinStone
@MarkoftheAustinStone 8 жыл бұрын
Smug atheists with nasally voices are so freaking annoying
@panzerken
@panzerken 8 жыл бұрын
+MarkoftheAustinStone The truth hurts.
@germaniavasquez7331
@germaniavasquez7331 9 жыл бұрын
I find that to use a powerpoint presentation to disproof an "3000 yearl old EMOTION" is stupid
@Davidhjrick
@Davidhjrick 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Buy the book.
@tedgrant2
@tedgrant2 4 жыл бұрын
I am very happy to welcome Jesus into my life. I have a spare room with a nice bed that he can use for free. I will provide free bread and wine for him at no cost. When he arrives, I will expect him to have a shower and change his clothes.
@markcongleton9533
@markcongleton9533 3 жыл бұрын
tell jesus i said hi and to quit fucking around and answer some prayers and do something worthwhile..hes about as bad as his old man..all talk and no do
@tedgrant2
@tedgrant2 3 жыл бұрын
@@markcongleton9533 But he saves !
@kimsland999
@kimsland999 6 жыл бұрын
Magic-beans and a castle in the clouds, shit I mean Magic-being and mythical heaven is ABSURD.
@BrianBattles
@BrianBattles Ай бұрын
Why not post the date this was recorded?
@PetarStamenkovic
@PetarStamenkovic 10 жыл бұрын
One sided twisting of facts to fit within limited worldview. Welcome to atheism. I'm not sure why I thought this would be intelligent with a title like that... My bad.
@DjJDtech
@DjJDtech 10 жыл бұрын
"One sided twisting of facts to fit within limited worldview? I think your getting atheism confused with religion there buddy, but hey your probably brainwashed so i'll let you off :)
@afrosaxon
@afrosaxon 10 жыл бұрын
Sounds like projection to me. We see this all too often.
@PetarStamenkovic
@PetarStamenkovic 10 жыл бұрын
Clint Eastwood _you're_ probably brainwashed
@PetarStamenkovic
@PetarStamenkovic 10 жыл бұрын
***** Is that a projection?
@DorianMattar
@DorianMattar 10 жыл бұрын
Petar Stamenkovic If you were born in Afghanistan you'd be praising Allah and saying the exact same thing about Christianity. Is that a projection?
@franksanders9638
@franksanders9638 10 жыл бұрын
so mockery is now considered an intellectual forum?
@MrKydaman
@MrKydaman 10 жыл бұрын
Borne Atheiste lmao owned
@franksanders9638
@franksanders9638 10 жыл бұрын
Jarlaxle Daerthe and you consider yourselves intellectually superior to the bible thumpers??
@franksanders9638
@franksanders9638 10 жыл бұрын
Borne Atheiste you seem to think so. lol
@franksanders9638
@franksanders9638 10 жыл бұрын
Jarlaxle Daerthe who is it exactly that believes in a flat earth? or zombies? I assume the snake you refer to is satan and the garden of eden? you realize that most Christians consider this a metaphor, and that even those who take it literally do so out of the belief in divine creation.
@markstuber4731
@markstuber4731 10 жыл бұрын
Jarlaxle Daerthe Ever heard of metaphoric speech? Believe in a flat earth has never been the norm in Christianity.
@Wildcard120
@Wildcard120 8 жыл бұрын
As a believer I found this video Interesting....and amusing. Keep Watching!
@davidcooks2379
@davidcooks2379 4 жыл бұрын
But you still prefer to stay delusional?
@Wildcard120
@Wildcard120 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidcooks2379 Delusional? Really? How is that?
@michaelcontreras148
@michaelcontreras148 6 жыл бұрын
Read the book. It's got to many holes in it. I believe that Jesus lived and was crucified. Read up on the early fathers
@allenstroud7064
@allenstroud7064 8 жыл бұрын
Someone should write a book entitled "Are Atheists Delusional"; perhaps it would sell better than Dawkins' and/or Carrier's books. Maybe it should be me; I know lots of BIG words.
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