Disc vs drum…. The age old debate. We have the results! Are disc brakes a worthwhile upgrade on your Cj2A Cj3a cj3b cj5 Willys mb ford gpw. Disc brake install • Kaiser Willys Cj2A dis...
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@ginacoronel6872 Жыл бұрын
Really would like to see a 11in drum brake test, but this was really interesting, thanks for sharing!
@scubasteve7946 Жыл бұрын
Fwiw when I swapped to 11" front drums only, it felt about like it almost doubled the braking power. Would just about lock up the front tires on dry pavement. Well worth the swap IMHO but for off-roading, another huge advantage with discs is they work when wet after a creek crossing. Drums do not until they dry out.
@rrtownsend6432 Жыл бұрын
This test showed me that I really need to install discs on my CJ3B. My drum brakes are just OK but not great. Awesome video. Thanks, RT
@redeyecafegarage7484 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes you won’t regret a disc swap!
@matthewdeal7791 Жыл бұрын
@@redeyecafegarage7484 How difficult is a disc brake swap? I have a literally only changed my starter motor and the oil in my DJ-3A.
@redeyecafegarage74843 ай бұрын
@@matthewdeal7791 I l would give it a 6 out of 10. Not difficult but definitely lots of steps and since there’s a high safety risk if you do something wrong it’s not exactly for beginners. But if done properly with the right supervision it’s a great project to learn important skills
@Pnwvintagejeeps Жыл бұрын
Honestly the only reason I switched to disc in the front was because I drove through a deep puddle with the drums. I like stopping when I push the peddle LOL! Great Video
@redeyecafegarage7484 Жыл бұрын
Yeah from a maintenance point the disc brakes are a huge selling point for me. The fact that they stop better is a bonus
@greywolfwalking6359 Жыл бұрын
Good testing!! Results speak volumes!! It's up to the folks,of what they want!! Great job.. Teach! 👍🧙♂️🐺!!!
@TalmageBailey-sp4ty Жыл бұрын
Beautiful Jeep's dad and father haveing fun god bless
@markpospichal13098 ай бұрын
Thanks for making this video. Years ago I swapped front discs from a '74 Scout Dana 30 onto the front of my '2A. Not a direct bolt on but not that hard to fabricate. I used the dual chamber master cylinder off a '77 Mercury monarch mounted where the stock one had been. No proportioning valve and stock rear drums. I love the setup but have lately been wondering if I should install a proportioning valve and go to bigger rear drums. Based on this video I think I should leave well enough alone.
@redeyecafegarage74848 ай бұрын
Excellent! It’s totally up to you but it sounds like it’s working good for ya. Thanks for watching
@ThunderboltTheWillysJeep Жыл бұрын
Very cool! Thanks for showing the actual performance tests. Decisions, decisions..... LOL.
@ethanphillips8637 Жыл бұрын
70s good for a cj2a was 11 inch drums all positions, with a stock master
@geoffreyclark2805 Жыл бұрын
Nice test Seth, as Arte Johnson used to say on Laugh-In "Very Interesting". At least the neighbors didn't call the cops.
@redeyecafegarage7484 Жыл бұрын
It’s not illegal to drive the speed limit and then stop 😆
@geoffreyclark2805 Жыл бұрын
@@redeyecafegarage7484 Of course, just being silly.
@redeyecafegarage7484 Жыл бұрын
@@geoffreyclark2805 Thankfully I think my neighbors are used to my shenanigans 😆
@bigears4014 Жыл бұрын
You can see why front disc rear drum was used for so long , plus you get a better handbreak , as most 4 wheel discs still run a drum handbreak
@Jeepmantyler Жыл бұрын
Wow, so just stick with the stock master and put a proportioning valve in. interesting. I figured you definitely needed a dual
@scubasteve7946 Жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison video 👍👍. I need to get my wheel cylinders replaced now
@drewchance95626 ай бұрын
Thanks for that it really helps me out
@redeyecafegarage74846 ай бұрын
Happy to help
@ronath8765 Жыл бұрын
great work. awesome video . safety wise disc brakes are pretty good. impressive results
@redeyecafegarage7484 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@amx19733 Жыл бұрын
Wow!! Great information/content!!!!
@redeyecafegarage7484 Жыл бұрын
😊thanks for watching!
@DJJIMMYJAMSJEEP Жыл бұрын
Those are 3 good looking Jeeps
@redeyecafegarage7484 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! We’ve put a lot of work into them over the years. 👍
@perfeicaodaantiguidade4710 Жыл бұрын
Jeep muito top meu amigo
@187manowar Жыл бұрын
Quite the difference. Is your dad gonna do the disc brake upgrade now?
@redeyecafegarage7484 Жыл бұрын
I think he’s happy with disc up front and drum in the back. And honestly they difference is so close I would only do disc rear for ease of maintenance. 👍
@cliffordbray6165 Жыл бұрын
I have 1943 MB Willis officers, radio jeep all original, is the Marine Corps jeep with the foreign kit on it do they make a plastic gas tank for you the regular gas with alcohol in it, attract water and make it rust. If you know where I get a plastic one please let me know.
@redeyecafegarage7484 Жыл бұрын
I run steel tanks in all my builds and have no issues with rust. You can always throw some 2 stroke oil in occasionally if you’re worried about rust. I do not like the plastic tanks. The leak and don’t fit correctly.
@earlwillis55848 күн бұрын
Hey Steh, my jeeps got 11” drums in front and 9” in back with a dual master. Do you think the bigger drums will make much difference? Also I’m thinking of putting discs on the front if my front 11” drums could be used on the back? Do you know if that would work? Thanks Steh and great video 🥳
@redeyecafegarage74847 күн бұрын
Hi earl. Disc up front will be an improvement over the drums in both performance and maintenance. Disc front and 11” rear is a great combo but I’m pretty sure you will need to find 11” rear backing plates. But please some research on that. I could be wrong. I am definitely not a drum brake expert
@jpetrowich Жыл бұрын
Nice test Seth. Thanks for doing it. I was thinking. Even though the disk brakes “lock up” quicker, that’s not necessarily a good thing is it? I’d love to see how the 9” drum brakes compare to a modern wrangler or other Jeep with anti-lock brakes. What are your thoughts?
@redeyecafegarage7484 Жыл бұрын
Yeah it would be interesting to see how Jeeps with anti-lock brakes stack up against my Jeeps. I think in this test there wouldn’t be much difference. But I bet at 50 or 60mph the newer jeep with power brakes and anti-lock might shine. But it’s all just speculation without some data. Thanks for watching.
@christinedahlsilva79413 ай бұрын
I have 11 inch drums . just as good as discs
@redeyecafegarage74843 ай бұрын
Ease of Maintenance and performance in mud and mater is where discs will surpass of 11” drums
@pepsi666 Жыл бұрын
That was impressive with discs all round, but how much would a full conversion cost ?
@redeyecafegarage7484 Жыл бұрын
Here’s the front conversion kit. The rear disc brakes I run are a home made setup. A direct kit isn’t available. But as you can see front disc is more than effective. 👍 be sure to use code Redeyegarage10 any time you order anything from Kaiser Willy’s! Thanks for watching! www.kaiserwillys.com/products/complete-front-disc-brake-conversion-kit-fits-41-71-jeep-willys/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI15mO0-mVgAMV2-zjBx0bTAucEAQYASABEgKUi_D_BwE
@pepsi666 Жыл бұрын
@@redeyecafegarage7484 I posted this on a Facebook page, caused a lot of controversy Unfortunately I can’t use kaiser Willy, they are in the US, shipping would be extortionate
@TTGOTL Жыл бұрын
With discs on the front only, did you install a proportioning valve or just remove the check valve from the factory master cylinder? did the check valve get replaced with anything else?
@redeyecafegarage7484 Жыл бұрын
For disc up front only you must remove the residual valve. Proportioning valve is optional. I’ve gone with and without. IMO it doesn’t make much difference at all. But people will literally lose their minds arguing with you over this. I’ve gotten actual treats of violence emailed to me over this topic. It’s absolutely ridiculous 😆 I just share my person experience from 20 years of jeeping& tens of thousands of miles but people that never even finish their Jeeps want to fight me haha! At the end of the day you do what feels right for you and if you’re not sure seek out a professional. Lol…
@Moital14 ай бұрын
My ‘48 2a has discs all-round. Much better performance and reliability.
@6226superhurricane Жыл бұрын
nobody in this day and age should run a single circuit master cylinder for any reason. you're one leak away from a terrible accident. full size jeep/chevy caliper and brackets with 78 cj7 rotors 11x2" rear drums, dual circuit master, combination valve and remote booster would be ideal.
@redeyecafegarage7484 Жыл бұрын
There is absolutely nothing wrong with a single line master for these old Jeeps.
@6226superhurricane Жыл бұрын
@@redeyecafegarage7484 there's something seriously wrong with a single circuit master cylinder on any vehicle. all it takes is one brake line, brake hose, seal or pressure switch to fail and you have no brakes apart from the park brake with a dual circuit master if a hose, line,seal or switch fails you still have brakes on two wheels and the park brake.
@matthewdeal7791 Жыл бұрын
Uh, real story, where'd you get that flag of your jeep? I want a flag of my jeep.
Hold on, these Jeeps don't all weight the same - so the results will vary even with the same friction and stopping power...
@redeyecafegarage7484Ай бұрын
lol… calm down and take a deep breath they all weigh within 1 friend of eachother. Dont overcomplicate this.
@brandonshep8663 Жыл бұрын
What disc brakes are you using?
@redeyecafegarage7484 Жыл бұрын
Kaiser Willys disc conversion kit.
@heyyoubuddy6749 Жыл бұрын
Good morning buddy how are ya? Fantastic test. Thanks for sharing. Oh question, is your Dads cab homemade or was that something that could of been bought long ago? I was was just thinking about putting a roxor Dana 44 with discs on my 69 cj5. Have a great day thanks for sharing God bless you and yours.
@redeyecafegarage7484 Жыл бұрын
@@heyyoubuddy6749 hi! Dads jeep has an old Sears hardtop on it. Thanks for watching.
@scubasteve7946 Жыл бұрын
That's going to be a great swap IMHO.
@Moital14 ай бұрын
My ‘48 2a has discs all-round. Much better performance and reliability.