Are Men Falling Behind? Male Feminists vs Female Antifeminists | Middle Ground
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0:00 intro
0:25 Women have more privileges today than men
9:58 Men are falling behind in society
22:36 Women should also be drafted into the military
27:23 Female sex workers should be more respected
33:36 Men should take birth control
38:55 Being a mother is the most valuable thing a woman can do
44:48 Men need to be masculine to keep their families safe
50:30 The differences between men and women should be celebrated
@jubilee Жыл бұрын
So what did you think of this episode of Middle Ground? Did anyone surprise you?
@mirrored464 Жыл бұрын
Yes there was a female on the male part
@lanaxv Жыл бұрын
stop making these
@tiannatippins3562 Жыл бұрын
Janelle was very pick me to me I thought she would be more middle ground
@_aoe Жыл бұрын
@@lanaxv why? It gives perspective and educates. Helps you make out your own opinions and values.
@SavannahSchrader Жыл бұрын
Yes, it surprised me how these women were so apathetic and ignorant to the struggles of others.
@christinepoppy3277 Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why people think a woman’s brain falls out of her head because she feels an emotion
@alex47_in_downtown18 Жыл бұрын
Logic and reason falls out when emotion comes in the way
@YourSensei999 Жыл бұрын
Fr, like when that lady in red brought up the military thingy it made no sense. First of all, every gender is capable of feeling fear from stuff like that. Second of all, we all have a brain, so we all can learn how u r supposed to act in such situations.
@eliseph Жыл бұрын
yeah, every study ever that has been conducted on womens vs mens brains as shown that women are smarter, more logical, develop their frontal lobes way sooner in puberty and young adulthood than men do. also i dont understand why an emotional nurturing president is bad?? shouldnt you americans vote for a president who cares for the people and makes choices more based on morals, logic and empathy rather than cold brutal competition and war?
@MayaMickaMicak Жыл бұрын
Because a lot of people don't count anger as an emotion, men can seem less emotional, but that's not true at all
@treacherousjslither6920 Жыл бұрын
@@MayaMickaMicak Anger is mos def an emotion. Men and women both can be very emotional. Men are simply socially conditioned to not cry a lot. A little is acceptable. A lot is not. Whereas women are conditioned to cry. Women learn at a young age that their tears have power. Just my observations.
@_studiofrancesca Жыл бұрын
“why don’t you get a vasectomy?” “i did” i’m dead that was such an amazing moment
@milomoody891 Жыл бұрын
Fr! My jaw dropped and I had to pause the video and playback that moment 😂
@whatever16jb17 Жыл бұрын
he’s an icon
@sarawithnoh9449 Жыл бұрын
STOP, THAT PART WAS SO UNBELIEVABLY SATISFYING!!!!!! THE LOOK ON HIS FACE TOO MY DUDE WAS ABOUT TO END HER WHOLE CAREER
@sekcbeast6713 Жыл бұрын
That guy didn't seem happy to me.
@TheTomboy345 Жыл бұрын
And he became hotter when he said it.
@annak-h8194 7 ай бұрын
I literally don't understand how Janelle can say she won't take birth control because she doesn't want to put something unnatural in her body but gets giant breast implants in
@kiyyaakayy 6 ай бұрын
LMFAOOOO
@butterytomatoes747 6 ай бұрын
EXACTLY!!! Like we totally couldn't tell you've had artificial work done
@hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii5 6 ай бұрын
her whole face 😭
@MrFlynny94 5 ай бұрын
Breast implants sit on the surface of the body? Birth control plays with your insides.
@jaeshasway 5 ай бұрын
Not just B implants, tanning, fillers, and who knows what else.
@notyourred 6 ай бұрын
Janelle : women are inherently loving and nurturing and caring Also Janelle : proceeds to be the most hateful and condescending and unreasonable
@tessanewson6556 6 ай бұрын
I despise that stereotype it's so traditional. Like we are in the 21st century now!!
@Itsmesaucekayuchibi 5 ай бұрын
Other than the leader part, I don’t think she said anything offensive. Her points were valid.
@Itsmesaucekayuchibi 5 ай бұрын
@@tessanewson6556stereotypes are based on facts and we need traditional roles to keep the society functioning and thriving
@Doomer_Optimist 4 ай бұрын
@@Itsmesaucekayuchibi no one attacked her points in this thread, although I certainly could. it's more like her demeanor was incredibly smug and distasteful.
@kurt5079 4 ай бұрын
@@tessanewson6556 It is not a stereotype it is a generality. As with any generality there are exceptions but it is also true and backed up by the social science and psychoanalytical data/research spanning for decades.
@iridiumm Жыл бұрын
Jubilee never fails to find at least one person that’s infuriating in every episode 💀
@CrankyBarista Жыл бұрын
I wonder of who you refer??? 🤔 😂😂😂
@Hintvision Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂omg
@metr0_retr074 Жыл бұрын
You gotta be talking about the women in the Red Dress lol
@app6984 Жыл бұрын
It makes better tv. They obviously picked them.
@TheRandomMuffinMan Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I just want them to exclude the crazies in these talks since they really devalue the conversation.
@jessicawilliams3849 Жыл бұрын
Janelle’s whole premise is “I don’t agree with feminism bc I don’t think women are smart/capable enough to have these rights”. I think it reflects a lot on how weak she sees herself. She projects her insecurities and failings onto other women
@ripdito Жыл бұрын
this!
@rattaface02 Жыл бұрын
Beautifully said 🙌🏽
@hi-yo1kq Жыл бұрын
Could not have been described better. It’s exactly this
@rudycastillo4150 Жыл бұрын
Misogyny 😂
@samanthaplacide2267 Жыл бұрын
no truly. like she said things women feel that i couldn’t even relate to and genuinely confused me lol.
@sarasmart9263 6 ай бұрын
Some of them are confusing "womens" privilege with pretty privileged.
@v.xien. 3 ай бұрын
Ong
@ferwoodz 3 ай бұрын
!😊
@musicplug1730 2 ай бұрын
Yea all those women that survived the titanic were gorgeous
@FlurryJoe 2 ай бұрын
There is no difference. Are there men with "pretty" privilege?
@Dani-in7fi 2 ай бұрын
Yesss @@FlurryJoe
@jonellereyes6293 Ай бұрын
Men have started wars over their EMOTIONS about a woman.
@andrewwood763 Күн бұрын
lol literally it’s throughout history
@naomim.7220 Жыл бұрын
"Women are too emotional" as if men dont go starting wars because someone insulted their wig
@Idkanymore567 11 ай бұрын
Valid
@klaudinegarcia8932 10 ай бұрын
Or their wife cheated and eloped with another guy! (the movie Troy) 😂
@arrrrr1689 10 ай бұрын
Lmao🤣🤣which war is started by that
@yarpenzigrin1893 10 ай бұрын
Women leaders statistically start wars more often than men.
@KingDiamondBones 10 ай бұрын
no wars aren't started by insults their is many reasons like religion and conquest like WW2 germany wanted to annex every country and get big some other reasons is to destablize and money no war has been based on emotions
@inesie6926 Жыл бұрын
Janelle saying “one person speak at a time” after repeatedly cutting everyone off to speak or argue is hilarious.
@oopsibrokethecow Жыл бұрын
What she really means is "Everyone listen to me and me only."
@braydendukes6633 Жыл бұрын
Thought the same thing
@MinifigNewsguy Жыл бұрын
it's insulting for an "anti-feminist" to show so much boobs and little intelligence, whether you're a feminist or not.
@tahirihfudu4086 Жыл бұрын
she's annoying
@americanhomeownerwithajob6940 Жыл бұрын
Why didn't this panel put any real men on it?
@amberwalls4852 6 ай бұрын
when janelle said being poor is a "mental state"🤩🤩 it really just showed how disconnected she is
@tessanewson6556 6 ай бұрын
Literally thought the same thing! In sociology college courses you are taught about the myth of "poor culture"
@al-imranadore1182 5 ай бұрын
Being poor in a first world countries is a just a mental state.
@whitepicklejuice 5 ай бұрын
How is it "disconnect" when she herself came out of some of the shittiest circumstances a person could live through? Speaking for the way life is in the U.S., poverty could become a mindset if you convince yourself you will be in poverty forever, and do nothing to bring yourself out of it. That is 100% a mindset. It's odd however that you won't give her the proper credit and benefit of the doubt considering she has changed her situation for the better.
@kwandozu 5 ай бұрын
Lol she is disconnected because she is egging on poor people who cannot afford children to reproduce, merely because she got away with having a child she had to depend on others to raise,@@whitepicklejuice
@mamba4ever113 4 ай бұрын
Being poor is a mindset. You can be poor but have a plan to escape it. If you have no plan and no one in your family does either...you have a poor persons mindset. It's not that hard to understand if you think a lil bit harder.
@kellyjokanovich3939 6 ай бұрын
“I don’t put pressure on my son to be straight. I just tell him he has to be attracted to women.” Make it make sense Jenelle 🙃
@ThePestilentDefiler 3 ай бұрын
Like biology intended. Dont normalize homosexuality.
@rayanneferreira8949 3 ай бұрын
Telling your son to be attracted to a woman is the same as putting pressure on him to be straight
@christopherestrada2474 3 ай бұрын
I thought the LGBTQ were welcoming of all orientations? What if she’s fine with her son to be attracted to trans-women ? That’s not straight, that’s pansexual.
@maaalooo_1062 3 ай бұрын
*should… makes a difference
@quandale3311 2 ай бұрын
Well it does, sexuality refers to sex, not gender, which are different according to liberal ideology.
@artemisia770 Жыл бұрын
Lmfao at Janelle asking John whether he wants his daughter to grow up in a world full of individuality and acceptance and John’s just like…..yes?
@abitlost4087 Жыл бұрын
Real
@jewel8439 Жыл бұрын
She was a s*x traffick victim who grew up without freedom, even now she’s too busy raising her son to research anything properly. I noticed it when she said “yeah I know the definition I googled it just today.” I just feel sorry for her, and y’all should really study how the traffickers brainwash their victims to be exactly like her. We are all products of our environment, and unfortunately we are all raised in different environments, so it’s hard to understand each other
@CrankyBarista Жыл бұрын
Well someone who has surgically and cosmetically changed every natural apperance of her body obviously knows nothing of self acceptance.
@bigbiafra5288 Жыл бұрын
@@jewel8439 That doesn't really make her wrong, you just don't agree with her. She was trafficked but still understands that there are only men and women and that we each have our roles means something.
@notlacin4961 Жыл бұрын
@@CrankyBarista How can you assume that it was after she was trafficked or wtv for her to do that? Maybe her trafficker encouraged her to do that to make her seem more appealing etc.
@averyestephan Жыл бұрын
“having kids is very financially difficult” “i’m fine” HOW IGNORANT could you possibly be
@BozoLifts Жыл бұрын
FOR REAL
@preasia731 Жыл бұрын
omg so annoying
@Seizuresalade Жыл бұрын
Like they genuinely think if everyone had the same opportunities they would still be homeless and starving etc... So brain dead
@tre20tyu Жыл бұрын
That’s what I’m saying!!!
@doobieddooo 11 ай бұрын
That is their whole argument. These anti-feminist women don’t think about other women. They’re like, “I’m fine”, what are these other women complaining about?
@maui_travels_ 6 ай бұрын
I giggled when Jenelle said ''I don't believe in putting anything that alters my body''...for obvious reasons
@thanerdchi Ай бұрын
did u not hear when she said she was trafficked??
@supercriceto Ай бұрын
Maybe they're natural. Ahem.
@ryandavidson675 Ай бұрын
@@thanerdchi That's more thank likely a lie. She has made this claim hundreds of times and has offered virtually no evidence to back it up.
@CyclingAMP Ай бұрын
@@thanerdchi it's still funny 😂😂
@grandAlef443angel Ай бұрын
@@CyclingAMP not at all.
@draytonwilliamsYT 7 ай бұрын
Massive respect to Mason and his patience. Being told you’re not the person you are has to be so infuriating but he was so collected. Major major props.
@puliduspulls2070 6 ай бұрын
Her patience ! It’s a her not a he, her! she shouldn’t be frustrated if that’s the truth she is a he r
@Iamvictor78 6 ай бұрын
😂
@dru8432 6 ай бұрын
@@puliduspulls2070If hes happy why not let him do him
@manbeckl 6 ай бұрын
@@puliduspulls2070🙄
@manbeckl 6 ай бұрын
And Janelle had this creepy smile on her face while she was telling him.
@lallovesu484 Жыл бұрын
janelle saying “women have hot bodies, they have men naturally coming to men but men have to build bodies” while having silicones??? the audacity
@ericx6969 Жыл бұрын
🤣
@dusscode Жыл бұрын
I didn't see her boasting about her attractiveness.
@fyre4354 Жыл бұрын
she wants to talk about trans ppl getting gender affirming care like those implants aren't gender affirming to her as a women
@jaidenkara6931 Жыл бұрын
YESSS
@Laenerysp Жыл бұрын
She was sex trafficked so it might not be her choice tho
@ciennabohmer9767 Жыл бұрын
as soon as she said it was a privilege to be sexualized by men she lost me
@louievasquez2381 Жыл бұрын
Nobody can ever sexualize a women unless the women is doing it herself. If u walk around showing ur body, u will attract all kinds of attentions.
@katherinel4122 Жыл бұрын
yeah she's an embarrassment to our gender :/
@orenmontgomery8250 Жыл бұрын
If you replace the word "sexualized" with "desired," maybe that would help? She's basically saying the one who is in possession of what another person wants is inherently in a strong position.
@monsieurtyrell9652 Жыл бұрын
@@orenmontgomery8250 if my grandma had wheels she would've been a bike
@berryjamminsun Жыл бұрын
@@monsieurtyrell9652 ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
@swagman7704 3 ай бұрын
11:30 how does her answer switch so much? 😭 before he said he was trans, janelle greeted them all by saying they were ‘amazing men’ and she loved the ‘masculine energy’, but goes to say she sees only feminine energy and sees a woman???? miss girl 😭
@joclourey5118 4 ай бұрын
“I don’t think trans women should be a part of the feminist movement” while actively not associating with the feminist movement is craaazzyyy lmao
@shirazsharivar8536 4 ай бұрын
Ikr!!! like you are literally calling yourself an anti feminist, but you also wanna decide who is in the opposite side?
@joclourey5118 4 ай бұрын
@@shirazsharivar8536 unbelievable lol like you disqualified yourself from this convo from the jump
@oryxisatthefront8338 2 ай бұрын
Tbf trans wome aren’t women so I get her point
@thatswhatshesssaid 2 ай бұрын
THIS
@byeee811 Ай бұрын
Crazy cause why tf do she care or does she not support because she feels like some people shouldn’t be part of that group is why she wont support it
@MySaraMarie Жыл бұрын
Anger is an emotion. I repeat: ANGER IS AN EMOTION
@theonewhosthere Жыл бұрын
@@e.m.8094 okay..?
@yobbbu Жыл бұрын
@@e.m.8094 ??
@aymanardo1322 Жыл бұрын
Jo mama is a women
@warriorstrength6797 Жыл бұрын
Men have to get angry just as much as a woman should.
@LateNightChess Жыл бұрын
Go make me a sandwich
@peasantsgalore Жыл бұрын
janelle saying she wouldn’t put birth control in her body while having two very obvious implants is sending me
@liastorm795 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@Alison2436 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 so true!
@happy153ful Жыл бұрын
I was thinking that too but then she said she was sex trafficking so it might not have been her choice entirely. I am giving the benefit of the doubt.
@sharkisradiant6686 Жыл бұрын
LMAOO
@Tlahuiltezcatl Жыл бұрын
😂🔥🤣🔥🔥🔥 she's a bimbo
@AvionBlackstone 5 ай бұрын
"We are too emotional!" No, Janelle. *you* are too emotional.
@josephsmiley1 Ай бұрын
Women are emotional.
@HCR2_addict Ай бұрын
@@josephsmiley1Thank you dear human for being logical
@Kamille-Millie Ай бұрын
@@HCR2_addict Men are also emotional.
@HCR2_addict Ай бұрын
@@Kamille-Millie women are way more tho
@janetappmeyer7483 Ай бұрын
@@josephsmiley1 Down the street from where I live, is a very large building that imprisons several hundred men that lost all logic when they couldn't control their emotions.
@priyankasantosh6542 7 ай бұрын
Hey Mason, if you're reading this comment, I had no effing clue you were trans before you said it. And I'm so glad you managed to be so polite with Janelle, I'd have to control my punches. But you should know you look great and have a wonderful voice. More power to you!
@JullianLue 5 ай бұрын
SAAAAMMMMEEEE
@Josef_Stylin 4 ай бұрын
That's a woman
@JullianLue 4 ай бұрын
@@Josef_Stylin YOU'RE SO WEIRD YOUR GREAT GRANDKIDS WILL HATE U IN THE FUTURE...
@elliot..5920 4 ай бұрын
@@Josef_Stylincry
@kayliannemartinez1178 21 күн бұрын
@@Josef_Stylin you are also a woman Josef.
@alessandra281 Жыл бұрын
Somebody tell Jennelle that saying "no disrespect" does not justify saying something disrespectful. Props to Mason for remaining calm while his identity was continuously invalidated.
@Pikawarps Жыл бұрын
Her*
@Dwight_ Жыл бұрын
@@Pikawarps saying your opinion and own belief is not disrespectful. saying no disrespect is a way of saying i disagree but i don want to offend you and ill respect you.
@clue8569 Жыл бұрын
@@Pikawarps His*
@colleenruf7139 Жыл бұрын
There’s no way she would’ve said “I see you as a woman” if Mason hadn’t explained his backstory first. “I could sense your feminine energy” yeah I don’t believe her.
@romiaxel9306 Жыл бұрын
Literally, it was so disgusting how transphobic Jennelle was, truly apalling omfg
@missshooks Жыл бұрын
I wish they had like a mediator that would check information when people on these shows claim that data supports things.
@marvinmiller2983 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Jubilee needs to start fact checking EVERYTHING people say on Middle Ground and putting it on screen. They already do a little bit at least
@berrymckockiner5883 Жыл бұрын
But most fact checkers can't be trusted, even chat gpt is full of bleeeppop
@alexgrissom7251 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, if that would happen then the screen would be packed with fact checks throughout the whole show. The best thing to do is to do your own research while you are watching the show. I ddid that and find out that some of the things that the women were saying was correct.
@arianaariel4197 Жыл бұрын
Which ones? Can you provide recourses? Or atleast tell me what the topic is about and I’ll find it myself
@sannisideup Жыл бұрын
@@alexgrissom7251 if they are able to display debates, they should be able to fact check the things said in the debates, it can be briefly addressed. Otherwise, it contributes to misinformation being spread which really doesnt help any of us
@Jim-of-Rohan 6 ай бұрын
What a nice bunch of dudes. Daniel is the sweetest chad I've ever seen. John is a super thoughtful parent. Alex puts his money where his mouth is. Mason's got just all the patience in the world.
@NathanXYX. 5 ай бұрын
and they spread the most disgusting ideology of 2024
@Itsmesaucekayuchibi 5 ай бұрын
The women (except jenelle) too were very well spoken, patient and factually informed
@teobryksy5315 2 ай бұрын
@@Itsmesaucekayuchibibut no one's here taking away from the women
@StanDaMan4487 Ай бұрын
Normies needs to stop using the word "Chad"
@airtrack9540 Ай бұрын
@@Itsmesaucekayuchibi “having kids is very financially difficult” “i’m fine”
@jaclynd7342 5 ай бұрын
Janelle has some serious ingrained misogyny. From what she's shared in this video, particularly the detail about being sex trafficked for 10 years, she's likely experienced 10 years of emotional abuse, and has been manipulated and falsely "liberated" into these beliefs. It would be great to see her experience true genuine respect from inside and out, she's been so manipulated into this "thing" that she seems to feel is her only true self, fulfilling her worth the only way she knows how. Like wearing prison bars for a crown. There's so much more to life and identity than the confinements you're in, Janelle. I hope you find your way.
@JustKiccinIt Жыл бұрын
Janelle doesn’t sound like she’s anti-feminist she sounds like she’s anti-women
@plutosn0taplanet Жыл бұрын
100%
@umusty619 Жыл бұрын
Pro-plastic
@nailahdawkins Жыл бұрын
@@umusty619 🤣🤣🤣
@rachybaby72 Жыл бұрын
No, she's not anti-herself...
@mitch103178 Жыл бұрын
@@rachybaby72 Yes, she is.
@dropkickbunny Жыл бұрын
Janelle saying "poor is a mentality" says everything you need to know about her opinions.
@masculineleadership Жыл бұрын
It literally is
@miacarter8740 Жыл бұрын
@@masculineleadership well your username is masculine leadership so I know everything I need to know about you now😂
@BurntToast44242 Жыл бұрын
I don't like her, but she does have a point. Being broke is having no money and being in a state of financial crisis. Being "poor" is a mentality you see in a lot of people. College students are broke b/c of debt. The NEET who stay's in their mom's basement playing LoL is poor.
@hmmmmmm6901 Жыл бұрын
@@BurntToast44242 especially if you’re in a first world country
@shane-bl4jk Жыл бұрын
@@miacarter8740 ....your name says alot about you, bub.
@terrasmith2707 5 ай бұрын
“All women are doted on and treated better from the time they’re young” wow, I’m not even a feminist and I still think that was the stupidest statement ever made on KZfaq.
@username_kk2177 6 ай бұрын
I like Amala a lot, she was very rational and really considerate of other views. Smartest one there by far.
@HashNub 3 ай бұрын
Same. I enjoy watching her channel. Being a former liberal, she draws from her previous experiences and can relate topics between both sides of a problem/question, so she's great at playing the devil's advocate while still disagreeing with a side.
@purplelightwolf741 Жыл бұрын
Jennelle was an embarrassment. Everyone else was so level, thoughtful and respectful. She just wanted to fight with everyone about things she didn't agree with, and shift the conversation away from the topic to things she wanted to fight about.
@i7ven Жыл бұрын
She's fighting for mens rights, but by doing that she's bringing the other half of men down
@bishbosh4815 Жыл бұрын
They always have someone like that
@damage_inc86425 Жыл бұрын
@@i7ven Very well said, Seth!
@miss-nomer Жыл бұрын
I honestly thought Jenelle was a trans woman.
@Stillchannel22 Жыл бұрын
I think all the anti feminist were insanely rude, abrupt and dimensioning to everyone else’s opinion. They didn’t respect anyone’s option and came to argue, not debate.
@thekikombe Жыл бұрын
Props to the moderator for calling out the lady in red for incessantly disrupting others’ train of thought.
@chlownee Жыл бұрын
Literally the second I read this comment, that happened 😭
@calebjh Жыл бұрын
When is was vise versa there was nothing said though… interesting
@Briecheese785 Жыл бұрын
@@johnbaddoghellno7751 “They seem to have problems thinking not the sharpest tools but the ladies were. Betas soyboys and 1 balding women” and you seem to have some issues with your grammar and punctuation’s, because wtaf is this sentence…💀
@videovoidtv Жыл бұрын
Why did they even book her for this. They created the problem that you are praising them for calling out.
@Jay-jb2vr Жыл бұрын
304 behavior
@jenni3924 6 ай бұрын
“i don’t believe in anything that alters my body”…..okay sureeee janelle LMAOOOOO
@khh6801 6 ай бұрын
My constant awe and support for the people who are literally victim to things like transphobia and other forms of discrimination and still manage to keep their cool. As tough as these are to watch, they’re really necessary. Talking always wins over shouting.
@toobakhanani8775 6 ай бұрын
I have a solution. Stick with what nature chose for you.
@MadaraUchiha-.._ 5 ай бұрын
shouting always wins because the people talking will just get their voice muted over the ones shouting
@mamagherbear7082 3 ай бұрын
@@toobakhanani8775 I have another solution. Stop being a twat.
@benjaminlemoine11 Ай бұрын
Just deal with it. You make it surprisingly far in life if you can tolerate all the stupidity around you and just be patient, no matter the person.
@foireur117 Ай бұрын
Using correct grammar is not transphobic.
@aligoeswest Жыл бұрын
Felt like Jenelle held the group back from more meaningful conversations
@sloanes_edits Жыл бұрын
Exactly, she didn’t giving her side much attention and efforts towards the conversation because she was selfish and talked over people
@gayfield420 Жыл бұрын
she also seemed like she was held back several grades in school
@anastasia-fr1gn Жыл бұрын
Yeah she didn’t let the others speak.
@Lynnessanovember Жыл бұрын
I agree can we have a redo
@cocolezlie Жыл бұрын
Yes!! Everyone was so articulate except for Janelle and Kaylee- their arguments were mostly based on delusion. When the other women and the feminists talked it was so much more impactful
@Firedragon0202 Жыл бұрын
I love when the black shirt lady basically said “I don’t experience this problem so it doesn’t exist”
@mmm-ie5ws Жыл бұрын
but when feminist women say the same thing your not for it. correct?
@ghhoulx Жыл бұрын
@@mmm-ie5ws what issues has feminism stated this about?
@iiastridii Жыл бұрын
@@mmm-ie5wsquickly
@Twice_jeans_xg Жыл бұрын
@@mmm-ie5ws r u gonna reply?
@tonyonaperky2128 Жыл бұрын
@@ghhoulxFalse accusations. You don't face it so you say "PERSONAL ANECDOTES DONT COUNT REEE" but you'll scream your personal anecdote of being fuked in the 4ss
@graceellen7984 6 ай бұрын
“ i don’t pressure I just tell him” Ya real clear Jenelle
@Alexandrasscott 4 ай бұрын
Mason is just a beautiful soul 🥹 the people close to him are very lucky
@AlanaGuez Жыл бұрын
"I don't believe in taking anything that alters my body" having multiple obvious surgeries is WILD
@-PiNKSYRUP 10 ай бұрын
@@cheeling794😭😭🤣 SAME
@biggooba6706 9 ай бұрын
whats your IQ LMAO
@gabevive71 8 ай бұрын
Well, she said she was trafficed for years, so idk if it was her choice, but if it was, yeah, kinda hippopotamus lol (hypocritical)
@_dnlcee 7 ай бұрын
That's not how I understood it. Things that can change your hormones are more permanent and can be dangerous it's not so easily removed unlike silicone.
@dewdew80 6 ай бұрын
@@gabevive71 didn't watch the video after concluding I'd be too annoyed...why did they get the opinion of someone so highly traumatized? Seems like a bad idea.
@karoliinakilpelainen3325 Жыл бұрын
If Jennelle thinks women are too emotional and illogigal then why would anyone listen to her talking points? She’s obviously just talking from emotion
@owl3650 Жыл бұрын
😂
@coraalllllll Жыл бұрын
the self conflict is crazy. When she’s arguing with herself does she listen to her sexist opinions? Or no because they came from a woman so they can’t possibly be logical
@dianael. Жыл бұрын
I cant imagine how much she suffers from self hate in her life
@leak3699 Жыл бұрын
I literally thought the same
@tnago916 Жыл бұрын
The irony 😭😭😭.
@manekineko111 6 ай бұрын
What lacks from their discussion is that BEAUTIFUL women are privileged, not all women.
@Mikedread876 Ай бұрын
It's not hard to be attractive as a woman. Just drink water, work out somewhat regularly, and wash your butt.
@01Meow01 Ай бұрын
@@Mikedread876are u talking abt… basic hygiene???? Basic hygiene that is accessible to everyone????
@Mikedread876 Ай бұрын
@01Meow01 yes, but yet still many women cannot seem to pull of being attractive. Hairy armpits, dressing like a hobo, overweight on average...the comment here proves it.
@manekineko111 Ай бұрын
@@Mikedread876 sure buddy... what about face proportions?
@jamesmcdonnell2455 29 күн бұрын
False. The sentencing disparity between men and women, is larger than the disparity between black and white. Do you think all female criminals just happen to be beautiful?
@maxikhani235 6 ай бұрын
“I don’t like anything that alters my body” says Janelle with a serious face
@dbamp Жыл бұрын
kaylee and jennelle are the definition of egocentric bias-- "if it doesn't happen to me, it doesn't happen to any women." hearing kaylee, who is clearly well off, respond to the idea that some people can't afford to raise a child with a "well, but i'm fine" made my blood boil
@kaitlynbradley8787 Жыл бұрын
i just came into the comments to see if anyone said anything about this. the mocking comment she made about poor people not wanting to have kids was SO beyond disrespectful - i can’t believe jubilee even kept it in the video.
@madisongreen9816 Жыл бұрын
Kaylee sounds like a spoilt, sheltered, and privileged child. It’s like she can’t comprehend that other people in the world have it harder than she does
@id4551 Жыл бұрын
THIS
@thekayleelayton Жыл бұрын
@@kaitlynbradley8787 the feminist movement literally encourages that. you guys are idiots if you can’t see how degraded women are and how torn down they are from being able to raise a child.
@shorterstax Жыл бұрын
@@kaitlynbradley8787 they kept it in the video to show that sometimes people really are that crazy with their beliefs
@LaraSmit-xr9vh Жыл бұрын
“I dont want to do anything that alters my body”-Jenelle GIRL HAVE YOU SEEN YOUSELF💀💀
@selinaschmolz7166 Жыл бұрын
Lol that's what i thought as she said it 😂
@GroupKillingFrenzy Жыл бұрын
Yall some retards
@chrishammon14 Жыл бұрын
She could mean her health. Don’t be ignant.
@LaraSmit-xr9vh Жыл бұрын
@@chrishammon14 breast implants can be dangerous too tf?😂
@chrishammon14 Жыл бұрын
@@LaraSmit-xr9vh i see you refuse to not be ignorant to what hormones can do to someone. carry on narcissist.
@kristinapetravirbalaite4931 6 ай бұрын
I'm glad to know those men exist. Thank you for showing them. It inspires hope. I'm starting to realize that at this point in my life, I can't develop intimacy with individuals who don't grasp it.
@niaroseagreste 5 ай бұрын
Janelle shaming mason for getting a transitioning surgery is so ironic coming from someone who looks like an alien at this point.
@virgobutcaye 5 ай бұрын
exactly.. i dont like shaming ppl for botched surgeries but her surgery is.. botched
@niaroseagreste 5 ай бұрын
@@virgobutcaye I feel kinda bad for her I mean I'm sure that she did it for male validation considering her statements.
@terencemayers6568 Ай бұрын
You bunch of racist 😒
@jamesmcdonnell2455 29 күн бұрын
@@virgobutcayewhat if you found out that the surgery was forced upon her while she was being trafficked? Sure one may assume that if that was the case, she would have it reversed, but there's no guarantee. I'm not saying this is what happened. But I will point out the true irony in how you don't actually have any problems with her insulting people over getting plastic surgery, you just have a problem with her target.
@virgobutcaye 29 күн бұрын
@@jamesmcdonnell2455 no, i have a problem with her insulting anyone over having any kind of plastic surgery. especially since its extremely hypocritical coming from her.
@Mr26muel Жыл бұрын
Janelle: I love the masculine energy we have here Mason: I'm trans Janelle: You have feminine energy 🙃
@adr1annn129 Жыл бұрын
THIS
@FangeekJenna Жыл бұрын
Thisss if he had not said he was trans she wouldn't have a damn clue!
@peterjimenez1075 Жыл бұрын
This is toxic feminism
@ocrafting05 Жыл бұрын
@@peterjimenez1075 wdym
@alexh6767 Жыл бұрын
This is why you don't tell people 😬
@meghanluhowy3152 Жыл бұрын
It's so sad how Kaylee is so close-minded and judgmental. She's the epitome of "if it doesn't happen to me, then it's not a problem for anyone else either."
@Chris-ko7ov Жыл бұрын
@amanamhie I agree, but I think an interesting fact is that most countries that are poor, and where is not easy to raise a kid (even if it is related to ignorance or bad education) those places have high natality rates.. To be clear, I'm not saying YOU SHOULD, if you can't afford it, I'm saying they do it anyways. I think it's easy for her to state things like that because she probably never had to face a similar problem for herself, but I also think believing everything should be in perfect alignment before having a baby is unprobable. Not defending her posture anyway, and I would always encourage people to NOT have kids if you can't feed them.
@tashboog5458 Жыл бұрын
The fact of the matter is that (outside of non-consent) pregnancy is a choice for both sexes just period. End of story.
@cocoalovelife8849 Жыл бұрын
exactly, its sad... now shes raising a BLACK male in america smh
@memsysr Жыл бұрын
@@tashboog5458 no it's only a woman's choice nowadays
@darkymana3735 Жыл бұрын
Very well said @meghan Luhowy Close-minded people measure the world By there only experience... Even if they are the 1% of a cases
@gravityclarity 5 ай бұрын
Amala is the only anti-feminist who was logical.
@crissyc9831 7 ай бұрын
What surprises me is how these women don't see how masculine and aggressive they come across. They can't see how they are exactly like the women they're criticizing?
@zalodelsolar3366 2 ай бұрын
Now imagine feminist women, they are literally men
@skaughtsman Ай бұрын
I don't think they're criticizing being assertive. They're criticizing the ideology.
@INTUITIVENORSK2303 27 минут бұрын
IMPO, I don't think they're doing any wrong. They are not aggressive whatsoever & they're not criticising. They are women who are very attune with their respective femininity & they're just speaking their minds, as any women who is a non-feminist will speak theirs too. FACT...Not every single woman on earth is going to become a feminist, or even agree with the movement & that too, is absolutely expected & OK.
@nezalubej1826 Жыл бұрын
Jenelle: "I don't believe in taking anything that alters my body." Also Jenelle just sitting there:
@juan_lopez1999 Жыл бұрын
🍈🍈🤫
@Sarah-gt2tj Жыл бұрын
yeah... i was boutta say
@hopefulromantic. Жыл бұрын
jennelle the entire time: 🔸️ 👁 👄 👁 🍊 🍊
@sourlemons4 Жыл бұрын
I didn't think she even knows when she contradicts herself its like words just fly out of her mouth without her thinking
@Random-sk6hm Жыл бұрын
FR 😭
@chiaramassa2754 Жыл бұрын
Jenelle is the reason why the saying "When the idiots become confident, the world is in danger" exists.
@georgiana1147 Жыл бұрын
couldn't have said it better
@inesarif8497 Жыл бұрын
She really bought nothing beneficial to this conversation, the prompter had to tell her twice to let others talk. 😂
@yeseniamendoza5844 Жыл бұрын
Yup.
@Random-sk6hm Жыл бұрын
FR
@atlantis6855 Жыл бұрын
They picked some of the worst women to represent the women haha
@akshitaverma8694 6 ай бұрын
If I hear the ‘protector-provider’ argument from anti-feminists in these episodes again, I am gonna scream.
@NathanXYX. 5 ай бұрын
nobody cares
@mvstudios4922 5 ай бұрын
@@NathanXYX. did you finally get picked? :O
@NathanXYX. 5 ай бұрын
@@mvstudios4922 I'm happily married and unlike you I care about both genders
@kwandozu 5 ай бұрын
@@NathanXYX.your initial response to this person is the precise antithesis to, "caring about both genders." But okay.
@NathanXYX. 5 ай бұрын
@@kwandozu cause she was being misandrist
@Iamalltoounwell 5 ай бұрын
I respect the patience everyone has to speak to Janelle patiently and calmly
@skatexius1710 Жыл бұрын
The woman in red is unbearable to listen to, but I do (kinda) agree on one thing with her - women LIKE HER should definitely not be in positions of power and leadership. She is so judgemental, close minded and completely disrespectful to anyone others personal experience. Kudos to everyone for managing to uphold a conversation with her :D
@carinocarino4009 Жыл бұрын
you are so open minded that you dont tolerate anything other than your opinion
@skatexius1710 Жыл бұрын
@@carinocarino4009 Thank you so much for your opinion, I didnt think I was open minded at all...I appreciate your words :)
@swatisaini6447 Жыл бұрын
@@skatexius1710 disagree! Her dress is orange colour not red
@sjdess Жыл бұрын
Yeah maybe she believes that women are too illogical and emotional because she herself is. It's just you, lady!
@skatexius1710 Жыл бұрын
@@swatisaini6447 Hehehe 😛I might be colourblind, so I'll take your word for it :D
@_studiofrancesca Жыл бұрын
Maybe this is just me, but when i think of feminism, i don’t just think about American feminism. There are still so many countries with discriminatory laws - not to mention Iran where femicide is actively happening! Feminism is necessary on an international scale
@a.k.salazr Жыл бұрын
@Florentino Perez MMM.. not entirely, but it's way better than other countries.
@sayyestolife333 Жыл бұрын
@Florentino Perez BECAUSE of feminism. So that is why its sad but hilariously childish to see western women who benefit from feminism so passionate about hating feminism...
@speedytrader5180 Жыл бұрын
@Florentino Perez well I live in the so-called Western world yet in my country women are still largely seen as bad workers because they could get pregnant at any time and go on paid leave, for that employers tend to be way more strict when hiring women,so I believe that there is still quite a long way to go in the West as well.
@hrishitasinha9334 Жыл бұрын
OMG SAME!! like who's gonna tell them there's a world outside AMERICA that needs feminism.
@eriksucioboy686 Жыл бұрын
@A.K. Salzr how are we not?
@isaactrussell5121 5 ай бұрын
John is the best. So level headed and non judgmental.
@ryleeherrera596 6 ай бұрын
It’s kind of funny to me that these women were all displaying typically masculine associated traits(being confident, out spoken, protective, a leader, etc..) and yet the way they so quickly dismissed the idea that masculine/feminine is determined person to person is just so funny to me. Also the complete frustration I had to endure listening to them go on and on about the female vs male mind was just… so closed minded not because these are not factors to consider but because they refused to see the diversity that is the human mind and even if a field is naturally dominated by one gender or another it should not be that your stance is to permanently exclude any of those who would have been able to helpfully contribute to those fields on the basis of prejudice. It’s so sad seeing how one track mind these anti-feminists are because they are living proof that there are women with something powerful to contribute to the world that isn’t just being a mother figure. I have so much more to say but yeah
@abdullahmertozdemir9437 Ай бұрын
the way janelle says women are emotional and their judgement can't be trusted, all the while confirming we can't trust her judgement by her own standards? I am neither a feminist nor an anti-feminist, but the cognitive dissonance in anti-feminist crowd is just so blatantly showing. It is weird how no one pointed this out
@INTUITIVENORSK2303 2 минут бұрын
Men & women are most definitely hard wired differently & this is not about personal choices to be made, but about true human biological differences within our brains & really, this isn't a bad thing & is just as it's meant to be. For eg: My gf's & I often discuss, how our husbands/partners always want to "problem solve" literally everything we say, while we just want to "be heard patiently/properly & talk/discuss matters".
@taytae1989 Жыл бұрын
Gosh. The calm energy of John, the way he expressed himself...it was just so beautiful. He seems like a great father.
@mattheq9930 Жыл бұрын
Same with Jenelle😊
@divyanshsingh1078 Жыл бұрын
@@mattheq9930 wtf r u serious
@midwestrebel2 Жыл бұрын
Nah the males & trans on here are so sensitive , brainwashed
@midwestrebel2 Жыл бұрын
@@mattheq9930I agree she's beast !
@davidbrooks1700 Жыл бұрын
Fr,
@Kaiteevasey Жыл бұрын
I find it interesting that Daniel, the buff guy, actually portrays more femininity than anyone else on that stage. Janelle, as much as she believes she is super feminine, displays a lot of masculine energy.
@Ghostinaseashell1789 Жыл бұрын
She has inner misogyny
@WPC799 Жыл бұрын
@@Ghostinaseashell1789 i think she’s just a bit daft
@mohammadjuhail86 Жыл бұрын
So true.
@thomaspeterson6097 Жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing.... We had like an almost submissive feminine buff guy vs a very agressive woman
@kristenj2009 Жыл бұрын
I disagree with you about Janelle. It is possible for women to be feminine in their lifestyle, choices, actions, etc. and masculine in their personality and thinking ie. alpha-type personality. There are lots of women who display traditionally masculine traits of being loud, aggressive, decisive, etc. (not in a negative way), but are super girly in their clothing and lifestyle choices.
@yawnzzn1206 Ай бұрын
Omg Janelle gives me second hand emberassment, not her thinking he asked her about her sex drive that's crazy
@kiya0334 6 ай бұрын
The men in this video are really smart. Mad respect for them to be so patient and calm till the end.
@BELLAOMG991 6 ай бұрын
Yes, applaud men for the bare minimum like all male “feminists”
@thedieseldiet 4 ай бұрын
They respect all women 🙏
@karennn3 Жыл бұрын
Jenelle is very delulu. Also people are forgetting that having certain privileges as a woman vary. If you don’t fall into society’s standard of beauty then your “privileges” are revoked.
@morgane.n Жыл бұрын
Delulu😂
@cameerkat Жыл бұрын
What is delulu?
@morgane.n Жыл бұрын
@@cameerkat delusional
@totalrko Жыл бұрын
ironic that a Karen said this
@ceeIoc Жыл бұрын
Nah, ugly women can still get a guy locked up by lying.
@WillowFrancais Жыл бұрын
Kaylee came across as so comfortable in her own privilege, that it just didn’t compute to her that some people do struggle and that for some people it’s valid.
@mariaygonzalez83 Жыл бұрын
How come you didn’t think the same for Jenelle ? Also wouldn’t you say, that there’s exceptions for everything? Not everything/everyone is the rule. Meaning that just because some people do struggle, doesn’t mean others can choose to have kids and not struggle. What she said if there’s 2 ppl in the relationship, there’s more chance of less struggle with being a parent. Just because some say they don’t want kids because they don’t wanna struggle, doesn’t mean there’s not ppl out there who want kids and will provide regardless of circumstances. It’s not being privileged if she had a plan in place, has someone who supports her and they both wanted this. What she saying is you could have this too if you really want it. The same way others are saying “just because u won’t struggle it doesn’t mean others won’t.” Same could be said vice versa and it’s all about how you view things and think.
@Lauwit Жыл бұрын
"Some"
@notovidio Жыл бұрын
@@mariaygonzalez83 These people are literally programmed and wired differently. No point in having a genuine conversation or debate with them. You’ll end up pulling your hair out trying to make sense of it
@crystaleuwing8411 Жыл бұрын
@@mariaygonzalez83 okay but the problem is some people don't want to struggle.. I think that was the whole point
@jewel8439 Жыл бұрын
@@mariaygonzalez83 What privilege? She’s a s*x traffic victim who is busy raising a son who she didn’t ask for. Holding them to the same standard is wild. I think everyone in the comments is overlooking how the feminists are the most privileged here, no not because they are men but because they have been educated properly and weren’t brainwashed by bad people
@Jasmine-dd8ce 6 ай бұрын
These women made these men feel how women in general feel like in this patriarchal society.
@musicplug1730 2 ай бұрын
Patriarchal society??? What other option is there?
@user-bu3vt5bz8s 5 ай бұрын
being a female, I absolutely hated everything the anti-femenists said
@jacobvisser4750 Ай бұрын
ofc cuz you’re a women 😂
@Qualex14 Жыл бұрын
The energy I get from Jennelle is of a person who thinks that comment sections on social media are an accurate reflection of society.
@crustycrabpizza4581 Жыл бұрын
Yes!!!
@WildXstElementZ Жыл бұрын
You’ve worded so well. You genius
@sayyestolife333 Жыл бұрын
Thank youuu thats so many of these people. The youtube algorithm that is fueled by extremes to make you click and comment is how they judge feminism as a whole
@zzzaaayyynnn Жыл бұрын
haha, perfect, so true
@raqimk Жыл бұрын
I wanna be friends with you fr😂 genius
@jennyrodriguez2310 Жыл бұрын
I think some of these anti feminist women are confusing female privilege with "pretty privilege", which is a valid thing. A woman that isn't conventionally pretty will not just get any guy she wants lol she will not get treated the same as a "hot woman"
@rachelsmyth9854 Жыл бұрын
facts
@illogical001 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! And just completely ignoring that the same thing exists for men too. 💀
@daanyal2550 Жыл бұрын
yes but she will still have 10x more options that your 7/10 guy
@lucthin6245 Жыл бұрын
pretty privilege exist for men and women as well... I think that's why one them said different instead of "more" like the prompt suggested.
@Moesie Жыл бұрын
@@daanyal2550 she doesnt, she got quanyity over quallity The guys she can get are either 1 night stand not marriage material Or weird, a women had the be more selective cuz she can get pregnant And having options doesnt mean much since a women is being $lut shamed if she sleeps woth many guys And women are called out for hitti g the wal
@mikaelakallaeva9124 Ай бұрын
As a physicist I feel the ick at the 50:39 moment. People so often use physics terms to explain spiritual stuff, while in reality those arguments have no scientific back up. It just fancy words.
@friederikegrunberg7536 Жыл бұрын
Janelle: "I don't believe in taking anything that alters my body" Also Janelle: has had plastic surgery done
@arixmc5520 10 ай бұрын
Came looking for this exact comment
@jonmelon 10 ай бұрын
She meant her hormones not her physical body
@HudaaJMalek 10 ай бұрын
I mean you could argue that it was a product of her circumstances since she said that she was in sex work before
@voqz6667 10 ай бұрын
@@jonmelon excuse me? Are hormones used on your astral projection?
@Amateur_Pianist_472 10 ай бұрын
@@HudaaJMalekwow an anti feminist sex worker… she’s also very opinionated.
@parrisnia72 Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t tell that Mason is trans. The fact that she said she can sense "feminine energy" from him makes me wonder if she only said that because he said he's trans lol
@Marz2727 Жыл бұрын
Of course Jenelle said it for that reason, Jenelle is an awful human being.
@Execution88 Жыл бұрын
Definitely knew he was feminine, you could tell from his mannerism and the way he spoke
@choco12325 Жыл бұрын
i felt so bad for Mason for having to deal with her T_T
@jcookway Жыл бұрын
As a gay male, I just thought maybe he was a fellow gay male, everyone can have a little feminine energy that doesn’t make them gay or trans just makes them human. She definitely just said that to be annoying.
@ag2407 Жыл бұрын
Mason 100% has female energy, thinks like a woman because he was born as one. Whoever doesn’t sense that is coping
@davidholm4999 17 күн бұрын
"I see you as a woman. I feel feminine energy". No, you're only seeing it that way cuz you know he's trans. If he hadn't told you, you wouldn't know at all cuz he passes so well.
@mybootscamewithoutstraps 15 күн бұрын
This one was a bit wild. It really seemed like a couple of the anti-feminist points were hyper niche experiences to justify an overall belief, and instead of recognizing that there's overarching things going on that data showcases, they'll just continue to hyper focus on the niche and run with it.
@carolinadelgado2897 Жыл бұрын
Jenelle was very hard to watch, the amount of hatred, lack of disrespect, disregard to see reality as it is, and complete demonstration of absolute ignorance was mind boggling to me. I cant believe there are people like that. Its very sad.
@olivia-nx8xf Жыл бұрын
i need jannelles confidence. homegirl will fully spew blatant misinformation with her entire chest, its remarkable
@melodiejobinmcinnis6558 Жыл бұрын
It’s the implants
@olivia-nx8xf Жыл бұрын
@@melodiejobinmcinnis6558 the chemicals from the silicone impacts seeps into your blood and then melts your brain no it’s true it’s true
@JakeThatMan Жыл бұрын
What misinformation?
@doeeyes2 Жыл бұрын
I dont think that chest is actually hers
@proathiest Жыл бұрын
Its called "audacity"
@rxse5042 2 ай бұрын
Janelle: I don’t believe in taking birth control or anything that alters my body Also her: 👁️ 👁️ 👄 🏀🏀
@dashed0327 4 ай бұрын
Why does the most annoying person have the most to say?
@JessicaBoorsma Жыл бұрын
Its hard not to straight out insult someone's intelligence or lack there of, but Jenelle in the first two minutes and thirty seconds of this video acting like the safety issues that women face is simply a minor inconvenience is just mind numbing.
@infernityable1369 Жыл бұрын
"The safety issues women face"?! There's no way you're being serious. 😂
@tpwa205 Жыл бұрын
Bruh you can get a gun. Btw most victims of violent crimes are men just so you know
@cedricdavis513 Жыл бұрын
It is minor. You can avoid clearly unsafe and dangerous situations.
@bazedbeh Жыл бұрын
@@cedricdavis513 ah yea so woman should avoid beeing in unsafe and dangerous situation by not leaving the house? all of my female friends have way too many stories of them beeing at risk / in dangerous situations just by beeing out in public. that is no minor inconvinience
@ccrans1216 Жыл бұрын
@@cedricdavis513 violence against women is a very real past, present and future. As long as there are men and women on earth, there will be violence against women. You can pretend it doesn’t exist all you want. That is not reality.
@la1z33 Жыл бұрын
Jenelle really said "I'm not interested in putting anything that alters my body" in response to birth control pills.
@cranburrey Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile her breasts…..
@josegarza7719 Жыл бұрын
Funny you say that. She looks like she has implants.
@DavidW-ng5zv Жыл бұрын
Male birth control is a joke, men shouldn't take it.
@defmo8 Жыл бұрын
😂 yeah I was looking for someone to comment the same thing.
@aldubm2234 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, birth control pills alter hormone production which definitely alters the body. But ya I didn’t like that woman
@natmurray3391 7 ай бұрын
What I found insanely annoying about these women is this perspective that “women are more emotional” nooo you were raised to be emotional. To me it’s such a cop out, because these same women would say that a woman is too emotional to be in a war zone as a soldier, but war breaks out around women and children all the time, most of those women are able to keep it together long enough to find safety.
@kp__25300 15 күн бұрын
'Women are too emotional' Men breaking stuff or punching anyone who midly disrespect them and we are the emotionals . Men are super emotional, but selfishly emotional Patriarchy also makes them opress lots of their feelings and emotions, lets not forget that
@luvbombz Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t imagine janelle having actual conversations with people in real life. She just likes to hear herself talk
@gracieexx Жыл бұрын
she talks soo much omg
@jasondutton2531 Жыл бұрын
That’s a feminine trait though. Women talk far more than men do
@sohailayawari9547 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely frustrating
@armyb140 Жыл бұрын
@@jasondutton2531 While men talk over women at work and don't even pay attention to their attribution to solve a problem that may occur. Little incel you don't know sh1t.
@gracieexx Жыл бұрын
@@jasondutton2531 i have never seen anyone talk as much as her though and none of it made any sense 🫣
@psicologiajoseh 10 ай бұрын
It's hurtful to hear women saying confidently “Yeah, I (we) am not logical, I'm not analytical, I'm too emotional, I should not be a leader” and so on. I'd hate to see someone saying that to the powerful women in my life who had influenced me so much.
@adamjuneau6287 9 ай бұрын
why? knowing thyself is a beautiful thing.
@opps8511 5 ай бұрын
yeah they are just projecting their own insecurities to the entire womanhood to make them feel better about themselves.
@tamialeslie7187 5 ай бұрын
Cringe and lack of self worth
@Ezio_TheCreed 5 ай бұрын
@@adamjuneau6287 im not smart and muscular so men shouldnt participate in sports
@whitepicklejuice 5 ай бұрын
There is a psychological difference in the way men and women process situations, this is FACT. I was also raised by strong women, and I can objectively understand that the women in my life are different from men. You are reacting emotionally to the science. You seem to have adopted that from all the women who raised you.
@hobovan. 5 ай бұрын
[18:09] as a dude, my brain is definitely all over. i enjoy talking about my issues. the women in the video make a lot of assumptions about men that are straight up false, but because their source is basically just societal expectations and not individuals, there’s no way to argue against it without extending the argument outside of the prompt and talking about the patriarchal structure of society.
@musicplug1730 2 ай бұрын
lol you enjoy talking about your issues
@user-zw8vi1pl9y 4 ай бұрын
Wow, that was a big topic ! And very intresting thank you !! But It was aslo very difficult to watch and for other reasons than just having ideas being challenged ... It was hard to have people being so immersed in there point of view that they cut each other mid sentence. The mediator did a great job to have reminders of trying to have equal chances to express themself ! bBut I wonder if it could help to have a systematic input about non violent talking ahead of the video ( But maybe there 's already one off camera ), even a "talking stick" in the video as we call it were I'm from ( something that people will have to give too each other each time they want to speak so that the ony people speaking are to ones having this thing before giving it to the person having something to say ) or just a "safe word" for when they are being interut ? But, regardless of this, thank you for your work, all the great ideas and energie your speading with your videos !
@miriamclarke5612 Жыл бұрын
Janelle born female felt she wasn't feminine enough so decided to have surgery, but cannot understand why someone else would do a similar thing by modifying their bodies to represent themselves. She also wants men to be dominent and powerful but tells her son to not be himself if it scares her. What part should he listen too, being dominent and telling his mom he will live the way that makes him happy, or be submissive and fearful and listen to his mom?
@krissybee2484 Жыл бұрын
Dude my ex’s mom is like that. My ex is fighting some internal battles as a result.
@susiehernandez6173 Жыл бұрын
This is so sad when i read it, I really hope he’s okay because this will eventually lead to resentment.
@woman2769 Жыл бұрын
I love john
@eugenechauke3849 Жыл бұрын
Exactly!!!
@madisonj5136 Жыл бұрын
The irony 😂, that’s not very nurturing of you Janelle
@aster_11 23 күн бұрын
These women are so privileged to talk about a topic in the way they are.
@Hardawayfits 4 ай бұрын
As a woman in construction I find this debate so intriguing 😅 Dear anti feminist come to construction and see why some feminist are feminist 😂
@christophervibe7430 3 ай бұрын
Why Bcuz of the way guys may treat u in the work force? U can’t use that and say that’s y ur a feminist. That’s like me sayin I work with triple K members and now I’m a liberal. Just Bcuz there’s bad ppl around u doesn’t mean society as a whole encourages or condones their behavior just like America doesn’t condone the actions of the triple k
@Hardawayfits 3 ай бұрын
@@christophervibe7430 Definitely not the reason I'm a feminist. It's because of my father. But go off.
@RJsermon 3 ай бұрын
I assume that you're being coddled and you have no idea.
@Hardawayfits 3 ай бұрын
@@RJsermon Interesting assumption 🤣😅😂
@teehee4096 Жыл бұрын
I honestly think Amala was the most level-headed of the female anti-feminists in this video. She asked the other side questions that were not accusatory; I disagree with her a whole lot, but if more people could amicably disagree like her, the world would be in a much better place.
@lola-sophiedanton5801 Жыл бұрын
I feel exactly the same. I don't agree with Amala on a lot of things but I respect her so much for being so calm and respectful.
@hatban_ Жыл бұрын
대신 싸워줄 전사가 있다면 전사가 될 필요가 없습니다 amala는 다른 무대에서 전사가 될수 있습니다 그때에도 이렇게 말할수 있습니까?
@ShayCat Жыл бұрын
She was definitely the most respectful and there to listen and not just listen to respond.
@darrenmims Жыл бұрын
Being respectful does not mean they are a nice person.
@Rainbow_Warrior_Princess Жыл бұрын
She's a trumpist, an anti-feminist (and so of course also against abortion) and a transphobe, so still a very bad disgusting person.
@nicoleyavorski1555 Жыл бұрын
i think janelle’s trauma from being trafficked is completely affecting her view on sex work, patriarchy/masculinity, gendered roles, and honestly everything in this video.
@LoneWulf278 Жыл бұрын
I agree.
@Cravennats Жыл бұрын
I mean that’s kinda valid?
@bromeliad9683 Жыл бұрын
I don’t necessarily agree with her points, but trauma affecting her views on a subject isn’t necessarily a bad thing. We all are going to have biases brought to the table that are going to affect the way we view the world, and I am sure there are people with similar traumas that have the opposite opinions.
@starlightrains Жыл бұрын
sex work literally deletes grey matter in the brains of people who watch it, hating it is based
@Dawnfordaze Жыл бұрын
What’s crazy is she a “sex intimacy expert” 😂 I’ve looked at her KZfaq and insta.
@freshpinkapples7618 24 күн бұрын
I love how supportive and chill John was with Janelle. He was just trying to make her think of things another way. I really respect that!
@joshualoveday 6 ай бұрын
Sorry, I cannot take the red hot air balloon seriously. She has the greatest issues of the entire panel but is somehow an expert on all topics. What a joke.
@Cantrona 9 ай бұрын
My favourite moment was when Alex was like "Why wouldn't I [take male birth control]?" and she was like " Why don't you get a vicectomy?" and he replied "I did." Mic. Drop.
@adamjuneau6287 9 ай бұрын
the Beta boys are coming.
@matts1166 6 ай бұрын
There was a news article about 2 years ago about the clinical trials of male birth control. More than a few self-described feminists were denouncing it. They were pissed because there were too few side effects. No, seriously. They were mad because it had less side effects than women's version, and thus "unfair".
@paollus8575 6 ай бұрын
But who dropped the mix tho ?
@al-imranadore1182 5 ай бұрын
Condoms work fine, vasectomy works perfectly, male birth control is just unnecessary.
@mckchillin 5 ай бұрын
@@paollus8575Alex
@UnravelingArchitecture Жыл бұрын
I actually really appreciate when Jubilee editors keep the moments when the producers/directors try to keep the conversation on track. It's really easy to just edit these moments out in post-production. But I think seeing reactions of the participants is really telling. Also it's interesting to see when producers/directors in Jubilee feel the need to interrupt.
@Pikawarps Жыл бұрын
They edit out hours of content, i would prefer if they edit out producers, it’s not about them.
@MadRodriguez Жыл бұрын
its the best
@oConshien Жыл бұрын
Yes moderator is a part of a debate
@joshuasatterwhite9520 Жыл бұрын
@@Pikawarps we needa jubilee uncut
@dusscode Жыл бұрын
The discussion you are seeing is watered down. They edit out huge chunks, especially controversial parts.
@yagmur.karagoz 5 ай бұрын
I dont think these women have been in career based places AT ALL. I am a woman engineer and we never taken seriously but when a male friend of my say the SAME thing for me, everyone starts to agree. This is not just my experience, almost every women go through this. I can not believe her AUDACITY to say 'If i wanted to be a CEO i would' as if she tried before as a woman. She have may gotten what she wanted in her life but not every women wants her path.
@RJsermon 3 ай бұрын
It's because you're most likely worse. Or you don't know how to properly navigate
@yagmur.karagoz 3 ай бұрын
@@RJsermon You have no idea who I am and I am speaking for every women in this industry. Its a fact. Are you a woman in stem?
@radoslavdimitrov7505 5 ай бұрын
Do whatever you want be whoever you want as long as it doesn't hurt you or anyone.... Some people take this in a twisted way
@catiareis91 10 ай бұрын
As an anti feminist, shouldn't Janelle just let the men speak and agree with everything they say instead of cutting them off and undermining their opinion?
@MadaraUchiha-.._ 5 ай бұрын
i doubt she saw them as men ESPECIALY the trans one. she’s super weird
@CAB0DE15 4 ай бұрын
Thats the same as saying that these mens as feminists they should kneel down and follow everything these women say
@MGsubbie 4 ай бұрын
Well no, because nothing undermines women's opinion more than feminism when a woman dares to make a statement that disagrees with feminism.
@alisapas2673 4 ай бұрын
True
@maya-wy3go 3 ай бұрын
@@MadaraUchiha-.._no fr brah
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