Is Being Fat a Choice? | Middle Ground

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0:00 intro
0:32 Being fat or skinny is a choice
6:56 I would rather be skinny than fat
12:42 America has an obesity problem
21:59 Fat shaming is worse than skinny shaming
28:10 Diet culture has positive effects

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@jubilee 7 ай бұрын

Exclusive prompt only on Patreon: bit.ly/47HwDsG “The body positivity movement promotes childhood obesity”

@MaxRamos8 7 ай бұрын

I think it's a 50% split cuz genetics, environment, economics, and upbringing are all factors that aren't controlled

@dohadena 7 ай бұрын

are you guys not making enough money from millions of views and ads on here why is a part of the video behind a paywall? 😐

@catalyst3713 7 ай бұрын

Yes it absolutely does.

@user-sf9gs2pg1b 7 ай бұрын

@@MaxRamos8 I feel like genetics does play a role, but probably less than it’s implied. Consider that a family of overweight people will feed their kids what they eat and thus make it appear genetic, when in reality they’re just eating the same foods in the quantities their family has.

@LuZu_ 7 ай бұрын

@@user-sf9gs2pg1b /simulating their lifestyle

@BBCEmily 5 ай бұрын

Bottom line: don't be rude or mean to people, but also, let's not pretend that being obese is in any way healthy.

@Tommy-nh4su 4 ай бұрын

And let's not pretend being anorexic is healthy either. Both are bad.

@sendcottoncandypls 4 ай бұрын

@@Tommy-nh4su theres a difference between being just skinny and anorexic and anorexia is literally the most deadly mental illness so like...obviously its not healthy and i dont think anyone here said that

@BBCEmily 4 ай бұрын

@@Tommy-nh4su Of course both are bad. But this episode is about obesity.

@serah3338 4 ай бұрын

okay, let's also not pretend "not being healthy" is why obese people are treated so poorly

@BBCEmily 4 ай бұрын

@@serah3338 I'm referring to overweight individuals who try to glorify their condition, as if there is nothing wrong or unusual about it. Encouraging others to be obese / normalizing it as if "it's alright to be super overweight" is just as damaging as encouraging people to starve themselves.

@mycatsnameisgizmo4677 7 ай бұрын

Seeing everyone jump on Lauren when she said skinny people don’t eat junk food was refreshing

@mra4955 7 ай бұрын

It's not that skinny people don't eat junk food, it's that they don't eat too much junk food

@corsariocapitao 7 ай бұрын

@@mra4955what is too much junk food?

@spicycorndogs4619 7 ай бұрын

@@mra4955that’s also not true as a skinny person who eats way too much junk food lol

@uchennanwogu2142 7 ай бұрын

@@spicycorndogs4619trust me, search up daily eating of an obese person

@mra4955 7 ай бұрын

@@spicycorndogs4619 ok, must not be true then

@nirvanaluvr19 2 ай бұрын

Madeline saying she’s average weight for women in America just proves that America has such a bad obesity problem 😭

@voidackerman2082 2 ай бұрын

she is wrong

@HaileysHealth 2 ай бұрын

Madeline is delusional! She’s not average size, and her body is not at its “set point”.

@meridoughten9425 Ай бұрын

@@voidackerman2082 yeah the average weight of American women is 170 lbs and, no offense intended, but she clearly weighs more than that...

@t_rok Ай бұрын

@@meridoughten9425 omg 170 is pretty big

@motarted1735 Ай бұрын

@@meridoughten9425she's 100lbs over the average weight, she doesn't live in reality

@darionmartin7618 Ай бұрын

The taller larger gentleman is living in reality and speaks eloquently about it. S tier

@fantastic6295 13 күн бұрын

It is the demographic. Women and people of some races are more prone to the victim mentality

@bellalulu6249 3 ай бұрын

i NEED to see overweight vs gym rats. Especially gym rats who were overweight i feel like it’s a whole new harsh but real perspective

@Musa_hi 2 ай бұрын

Fr we need one! but at the end I feel like the gym goers will be called "insecure" for changing themselves, I've seen so many of them get absolutely bodyshamed in the comments :/

@edwardgaiennie8956 2 ай бұрын

Lauren gives me the gym rat vibe. But I don’t think she had a transformation

@Musa_hi 2 ай бұрын

@@edwardgaiennie8956 she seems like a strict dietician rather than a gym rat

@joebriggs5781 2 ай бұрын

@@edwardgaiennie8956 it’s fine to be a gym rat but she has an extreme relationship with food. You can be more balanced and still be in great shape. She’s free to do what she wants, but lots of healthy people eat junk food here and there.

@jadaolson6479 2 ай бұрын

Why are gym rats the standard for health? Like what they gotta do w this? Some gym rats have disordered eating in order to maintain their bodies, how is that healthy?

@vjrdxt 5 ай бұрын

when Lauren said she doesn't think skinny people go into the junk food aisle I already knew she was an almond mom type of person because that made no sense.

@divinedlibra9884 4 ай бұрын

Fr. I have very fast metabolism. Sometimes i eat so unhealthy but I do not gain any weight

@kab9706 4 ай бұрын

I think she worded herself badly, because skinny people do eat junk food and fast food, but thin people eat LESS of it. Smaller portions. A thin person is taking in less calories than a 400lb person.

@divinedlibra9884 4 ай бұрын

@@kab9706 i agree. There needs to be a balance. But sometimes I do eat more junk food than people that are bigger than me. It’s weird. I think you need to find the balance between junk food and healthy food within your own body that fits your metabolism.

@kab9706 4 ай бұрын

@divinedlibra9884 same I eat junk but I don't really binge eat or sneak snacks all night. Obese people sometimes claim they "never" eat or eat healthier than thin people, but those calories come from somewhere

@alyssamarie5306 4 ай бұрын

⁠@@kab9706what do you mean thin vs skinny…

@quinn7694 2 ай бұрын

Dominick seems like such a down to earth kind person, i wish him and his wife n kids well ❤

@charlie_quinn666 27 күн бұрын

I was literally just coming to the comments to say the same thing, homie seems like such a sweetheart

@markherbert4723 26 күн бұрын

I hope he thinks hard and loses a few pounds so he can enjoy his wife and kids for longer

@irishcoco725 2 ай бұрын

Red dress is obsessed with thinness equating to morally better. Seems like she is looking for a gold star for being thin.

@margherita2729 26 күн бұрын

so do the other people there. Trying to be proud and own the fact they're huge. Pathetic

@bosco1603 22 күн бұрын

honestly difficult to make it through the episode because of her. when she started talking about how the woman should see an endocrinologist for her thyroid you could tell she has zero idea how the majority of the world lives.

@taylornarder6331 21 күн бұрын

She is, she is a narcissistic person.

@pointlessmike 9 күн бұрын

@@bosco1603 The majority of the world don't have access to medical care? I'm in Canada, so my understanding of how it is in the US is limited, but... majority?? gtf outa here...

@francisco.mrsm.22 8 күн бұрын

@@pointlessmike Genuinely this is the case. I can only speak for myself, but I make $20/hr in a relatively low cost area and yet I can't afford to see a doctor most of the time bc of a variety of factors, including cost. Also, just because on the outside someone's issue is easily fixable. They talk about it here, if you look at someone and think "they just need to check their thyroid or eat better", sometimes there's more than that. You and I could eat the same thing for a year and do the same things and maintain ourselves, but we'd still cary weight differently, etc which, according to some assumptions, means one of us would be doing something wrong.

@millieegirl 5 ай бұрын

why is nobody talking about parker and the "some days i don't eat" casually 😭

@stacymiffin3243 4 ай бұрын

No literally. Like Parker, that’s a disordered way of eating.

@ChaseBurns-kc7xg 4 ай бұрын

fasting isn't an eating disorder he does have one but choosing to cleanse your pallet once or twice a month or not eating certain things certain days isn't an eating disorder@@stacymiffin3243

@jsanchez8855 4 ай бұрын

My boyfriend looks EXACTLY like Parker. Like I had to ask him if that was actually him. But anyway, he also doesn't eat some days but he has IBS and ADHD and many days will just.. forget to eat, or avoid it if his tummy is feeling off. I have to actively remind him to eat.

@revekat2053 4 ай бұрын

@@jsanchez8855he might be on medication that makes him lose his appetite.

@NeptuneChildASMR 4 ай бұрын

I went through a few years where I would forget to eat too. It wasn’t purposely. I also have ADHD. On those days I would sometimes be up at 3 am and realize I forgot to eat and then grab something and make myself eat it. Or I’d go a day without eating and wake up and eat cheesecake in the morning 😅 I have had disordered eating for a lot of my life but during that time it wasn’t purposely avoiding food so I wouldn’t have considered it disordered compared to the times I’ve struggled with actual eating disorders.

@Dioliolio 7 ай бұрын

Shoutout to Dominick for being a totally reasonable and level headed dude.

@rollitupmars 7 ай бұрын

He’s like this in all videos a really great guy

@TeenageDirtbag8 7 ай бұрын

@@rollitupmarsYep agree

@masterqui-gonjinn90 7 ай бұрын

i hope he gets the help he needs

@goosmus 7 ай бұрын

Aww shucks you guys are so nice 😍😍

@Lxrd_Rome 7 ай бұрын

@@goosmusbro why you let her say she’s the average weight for someone

@ariannarodriguez3231 2 ай бұрын

Lauren has literally never met a poor person

@lukeandrew3335 Ай бұрын

She has such bad talking points, logic seems hard for her.

@JHNTR Ай бұрын

just an out of touch dumbass.

@bosco1603 22 күн бұрын

notice how she was super quiet when the group kind of collectively came to the conclusion that capitalism in our medical and food industry was the main driving force in creating and keeping people overweight.

@terecitanevarez2905 2 ай бұрын

" I chose not to eat somedays"... friend there's a name for that

@flamefusion8963 2 ай бұрын

Called having discipline.

@terecitanevarez2905 2 ай бұрын

@@flamefusion8963 u don't need to "discipline" yourself to stay thin when he alr said he's underweight and wants to gain weight

@MaryJaneJones. Ай бұрын

It's called fasting. I lost 50 pounds in 8 weeks. Now I'm 120 pounds.

@mollybetts3449 Ай бұрын

@@MaryJaneJones. Fasting is fine intermittently, but your body needs nutrients to survive. You are only supposed to lose 1-3 lbs a week in order to sustain yourself and your metabolism. There's nothing wrong with fasting, but there are significant health risks with long-term fasting

@emfrida7917 Ай бұрын

@@MaryJaneJones.what fast did u do?

@abi-fs5jt 5 ай бұрын

lauren acting like everyone can go see an endocrinolgist and not worry about medication costs...

@familybitestravel4630 4 ай бұрын

Yep. AND if she has hyperthyroidism... she is more likely to be skinny.

@tobiasdelasson8992 4 ай бұрын

just live in europe 👍

@sapphire1817 4 ай бұрын

That's exactly it. It's complete privilege to bekuege that we all can do that especially as women and don't even get me started on those who are ethic lol

@amandathaler1456 4 ай бұрын

She definitely carries the mindset of "I am thin and I am the better for it"

@gabby9388 4 ай бұрын

Literally

@Welsh-Trials-Enduro 7 ай бұрын

Props to dominick for being self aware and balanced in his viewpoints

@TheSalami 7 ай бұрын

He’s the only one who mentioned seed oils let’s go

@ProfessorBonnie 7 ай бұрын

@@TheSalamihi carson

@Mary-lr5ok 7 ай бұрын

His point about farms in small towns was kinda wack tho. Those farms are selling their meat and eggs in bulk to nationwide distributors, not to local poor people lol

@pog8744 7 ай бұрын

@@Mary-lr5ok He meant that the residents themselves are farmers or at least have their own chickens

@goosmus 7 ай бұрын

@@pog8744 yeah that's correct! I've spent a lot of time on the road and while I obviously haven't visited every city in America, the thing rural cities had that places like LA certainly don't is land! People out there often had a few chickens of their own, and land enough to grow some vegetables, fruits, etc. so many fresh fruit trees, forageables, and more! Looking forward myself to getting well out of the city.

@celinepa8246 2 ай бұрын

Noone should be wearing g-strings in public. Period.

@AppleOfThineEye Ай бұрын

Nah, people should be able to wear (or not wear) what they please as a matter of autonomy.

@cheesecurdinator4010 Ай бұрын

@@AppleOfThineEyenah its gross

@AppleOfThineEye Ай бұрын

@@cheesecurdinator4010 You don't get to restrict someone's rights because you find them distasteful.

@cheesecurdinator4010 Ай бұрын

@@AppleOfThineEye I do too

@unconventionalguitarist9129 Ай бұрын

Yea, I agree with cheese

@Vilik-nm7ry 2 ай бұрын

Saying she's the average weight is WILD, it's just not true.

@LINA-je9my Ай бұрын

Well historically it's not but nowadays it is actually the average weight.

@goldie12577 Ай бұрын

@@LINA-je9my That is not average even by today's standards

@LINA-je9my Ай бұрын

@@goldie12577 ok

@LINA-je9my Ай бұрын

@@goldie12577 ok

@LINA-je9my Ай бұрын

@@goldie12577 ok.

@therandommusicguy4773 5 ай бұрын

Dominick was the sort of person we should all be like. He didn't make excuses to suit himself, while also not bringing himself down.

@walkingonfiree7609 4 ай бұрын

no, but he made judgements on everyone else and assumed they should think the same as him.

@RaviPatel-lb7uc 4 ай бұрын

@@walkingonfiree7609 He judged them after they opened their mouths and excuses came out.

@apowell539 4 ай бұрын

He's my spirit animal, I loved his accountability.

@dont_harsh_my_mellow 4 ай бұрын

@@walkingonfiree7609 All that came out of the mouths of the others were sad back stories to justify not putting in the work to manage their weight. Is it harder for some ppl? Yes. Do some ppl have to jump through higher hoops for the same results? Yes. That doesn’t mean they shouldn’t or can’t. It’s a CHOICE, as he mentioned too. The more we see a trial or obstacle as an excuse for complacency, the worse off we all will be. Imagine if Jackie Robinson thought how these ladies did. Would he really have gotten to his level of legendary status? No.

@randomaccount3119 4 ай бұрын

I agree. I hope he lives a great life. He said he wants to be skinny so I hope he gets to his goal. It will benefit him

@mikhaylasellars2362 6 ай бұрын

saying skinny people don’t eat junk food is insane

@RichardTavilla 4 ай бұрын

I don’t think you realize though that, even though they do, it’s the amount of it. Overweight people are extreme liars about how much they actually eat. They lie to themselves. Yes skinny people might have a cupcake once in a while but they don’t have three every day.

@sierra94iolana 4 ай бұрын

@@RichardTavillaas someone who is definitely considered skinny…I often eat a whole pint of ice cream and carb-centered meals on a daily basis. Our natural metabolism is a big determinant of our set weights.

@Mike-hk8lx 4 ай бұрын

@@sierra94iolana of course and age comes into play as well. Amount of junk and booze and I consumed in my 20s.

@user-un7yy3rh6h 4 ай бұрын

@@RichardTavillaa cupcake once in a while? 😂😂😂

@RichardTavilla 4 ай бұрын

@@user-un7yy3rh6h she eats a case a day

@sunshinecherries Ай бұрын

dominick is so well-spoken. i hope he gets the resources he needs to improve his life for his own sake as well as for his family :)

@priscila______ Ай бұрын

"i chose to not eat some days" oh that's not...

@debbie510 29 күн бұрын

I went 😯

@alexanderhalloran 29 күн бұрын

It's called fasting and it's incredibly healthy to help heal your gut and expel toxins. Everyone should fast on occasion.

@kuro3552 15 күн бұрын

He said he's underweight. He said it's not easy on his side. Boy has an eating disorder too 😢

@mikecru9229 4 күн бұрын

@@alexanderhalloranit's called an ED 😂 you don't normally don't eat in a day being that skinny

@alexanderhalloran 4 күн бұрын

@@mikecru9229 even with an edit of your original comment, this still doesn't make sense. Taking 24 hours off from eating a couple times a month is very beneficial for your health, regardless of BMI.

@Omgitssuki 6 ай бұрын

Lauren was the embodiment of privileged and completely lacked empathy for others life experiences. I’m 115 pounds and I would never belittle someone how she did.

@susse2343 6 ай бұрын

She had the absolutely worst stink bombs of a take omg

@vlogsbyrow 6 ай бұрын

It made me seethe how she tried to mask her arguments as "logic" when they were obviously coming from a place of deep arrogance and bias. She just tried to sound fair 🤦‍♀

@meadowsweetstudios444 6 ай бұрын

@@vlogsbyrowshe was saying the truth, though. You don’t need to sugarcoat all time. Could she have been a little more empathetic? Yes. But was she wrong? No.

@Aging_Casually_Late_Gamer 6 ай бұрын

"Privilege" is a social construct.

@Jordan-xg4pn 6 ай бұрын

@@Aging_Casually_Late_Gamerbaby all language is socially constructed

@enzogeet2463 7 ай бұрын

As a nutritionist, seeing so many people think obesity isn't a factor leading to health diseases is concerning... It is really sad to know that's how it is across the atlantic, Europeans are usually way more educated on this subject.

@trackflix. 7 ай бұрын

They all know it's detrimental to their health lmao they just won't accept it

@whatoh3407 7 ай бұрын

These girls are coping HARD!!

@logicallychaotic9139 7 ай бұрын

become a DIETITIAN then come back…

@jato2942 7 ай бұрын

Another reason why Europeans are superior

@Momo-po5tn 7 ай бұрын

Americans have brainwashed themselves

@harrisonneil8444 2 ай бұрын

Crazy...Why are most the women on the panel making up reasons/excuses on why they are unable to eat healthy, and the only overweight guy on the panel is actually taking accountability on poor eating habits/choices

@grayuser3 26 күн бұрын

@nobody7638 23 күн бұрын

cause theyre women... have you ever seen a woman take responsibility for her actions?

@foysollee750 7 күн бұрын

These are the women!!! lol,

@julisiatanara262 7 күн бұрын

this is what ive been looking for

@Orwellian-Purple-Grapes-1984 4 күн бұрын

Agreed.

@user-mo1hp4yu2i 2 ай бұрын

As a fitness coach who has helped many people gain and lose weight, I want to share my observations. All the slim individuals who told me that they also eat a lot or consume a lot of junk food, when I delve into how much food they actually eat in a day or how many calories they intake, the results are astonishingly similar. In fact, none of the slim people consume a large amount of junk food. Their average daily calorie intake is much lower than that of a normal person, and their appetite is very small. Similarly, individuals who claim they eat very little but are overweight always underestimate their appetite and the calorie content of their food.Excessive obesity and being too thin are both harmful to the body and unattractive. What's truly important is learning to control your own figure, so that when you are dissatisfied with your physique, you can change it as you wish. Controlling weight is never a difficult task; it is merely a skill, similar to riding a bicycle or swimming, that everyone can master as long as you have courage to try and faith to overcome certain difficulties.

@The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare 2 ай бұрын

yeah they should have said they eat junk food often, not that they eat a lot of junk food.

@Afrogirrl 2 ай бұрын

Exactly lots of my friends who ppl say they have a ‘fast metabolism’ almost never finish their plate of food or that one fast food meal they eat ‘everyday’ wouldve been their only meal that day because they forgot to eat, or were preoccupied with other things

@The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare 2 ай бұрын

@@Afrogirrl you can have a faster metabolism, but only people who use their body a lot will, the more active you are the more you'll burn off. Having more muscle mass makes you burn more calories faster than someone who doesn't

@Afrogirrl 2 ай бұрын

@@The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare yeah i dont disagree at all. But I feel like if you’re a skinnier person seen with a burger you’ll instantly be claimed to have a fast metabolism

@The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare 2 ай бұрын

@@Afrogirrl yeah, but that's just based on some subconscious learning, which yes, it's false. And also a burger isn't that bad, I think a burger at mcdonalds is like 350 kcal or less and if you eat that as a meal then you eat less than what a meal would be, typically a meal would be 500 calories.

@Aviciiz 7 ай бұрын

Madeline saying she is the average weight of a woman in America is either a lie or a big disappointment from America.

@edwin1845 7 ай бұрын

70% of the usa is overweight 40% obese

@CoolCat847 7 ай бұрын

She is not the average weight, I checked the stats because I was so shocked. It's 170.8 lbs (77 kg) and she definitely weighs more than that.

@Aviciiz 7 ай бұрын

@@CoolCat847 Yeah I knew that had to be a lie she probably tells herself to sleep better at night

@cngotham4111 7 ай бұрын

She be lying to win an argument or shes uninformed

@db_2408 7 ай бұрын

honestly, my jaw dropped when she said that

@goldengoddess8568 6 ай бұрын

The way she said “I’m the average weight for women in America, so if you’re looking for the average the closest you’re going to get is me”, the only reason that’s the case is because of the obesity epidemic… That was not always the average weight historically.

@destinypointer9069 6 ай бұрын

I agree with that statement. I was shocked when she said that she was the average, because I do not see many individuals who are that heavy. Do not get me wrong, I see overweight individuals, but I mostly see people who are 300lbs or below. Id say size 14-18 is the average for women because that is usually the size that is sold out most of the time.

@-danny. 6 ай бұрын

@@destinypointer9069the average woman in the US is like ~5’3 and 170 lbs. So she’s definitely bigger than the average woman

@fdscrl6016 6 ай бұрын

wow that is insane as someone from europe... and it is a problem to be that big. being the average doesn't mean its not bad like...

@classtilton871 6 ай бұрын

She aint the average woman, shes delusional. Sorry if its harsh but thems the facts

@viaisabeauty7540 6 ай бұрын

@@-danny.omg im literally 5’3 170 lbs 😩😩…crazy I’m that spot on 😂

@bayamonrican Ай бұрын

Madeline saying she is the size of the average American woman was incredibly disturbing. If this is how the average American woman looks like then we 100% have an obesity problem.

@gacusrunner2004 Ай бұрын

That's the same thing I wrote a second ago 😂 , average is 170 pounds she easily weights 300 pounds

@lukeandrew3335 Ай бұрын

Lololollo!!

@jusletursoulglobaby Ай бұрын

almost 42% of Americans are obese.

@cannonplays939 Ай бұрын

Notice how this is the only episode where they used seats instead of stools, goes to show the real issue here.

@Batman-bm5tu 24 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@chocolateprincess8543 19 күн бұрын

Not everyone likes to sit on high stools. It’s not comfortable.

@kiainakanishi1288 11 күн бұрын

@@chocolateprincess8543 thats the problem bahahha. they physically cant sit on it

@MPLetsTalkAboutIt 7 ай бұрын

Dominick is the definition of accountability. He holds himself accountable but also is able to see its up to him whether he wants to change or not

@joeyhernandez7908 7 ай бұрын

Fax but at times comes out douchey

@jennosyde709 7 ай бұрын

Perhaps so, though he likely does not have the background in psychology to understand that some of what he is saying is a bit silly. Even if he wanted to boil it down to willpower (though there are countless systemic factors which contribute towards obesity), willpower is quite literally a limited resource within the body that is regulated by blood glucose levels within the brain. People who struggle with self control are typically placed within environments where they are frequently exposed to high levels of temptation, which reduces glucose levels within the body making it more and more difficult to exert self control with each subsequent temptation. Many people due to financial, legal, or social circumstances cannot simply up and change every component to their lives, which can make it exceptionally difficult to lose weight simply because of this factor alone. People in Europe do not have some innate ability for willpower that Americans do not. The difference is that they have different systemic solutions to address obesity, including walkable cities, less fast food, higher regulation in the food manufacturing process, and better regional wages/work hours that leave people with the time and energy to cook at home. I do respect Dominick's willingness to take accountability for his own life, though this subject is far more complicated than being a mere issue of self control.

@hannahmacdonald9040 7 ай бұрын

@@jennosyde709 Yeah agreed some of his takes were way to simplistic, weight is a lot more complicated than mere willpower...

@McKinley491 7 ай бұрын

it is an issue of self control and willpower and discipline. I'm not naturally skinny, i calorie count every single day and do calories in vs calories out. Some people lack that discipline, simple as that. Take accountability for your own obesity. @@jennosyde709

@McKinley491 7 ай бұрын

there's fast food everywhere, don't eat it maybe? You're not a child. Where I live theres' tonnes of horrible fast food, you just avoid it. Walkable cities? You can still go to the gym or run, btw though, exercise isn't necessary to lose weight. It's all diet (calories in vs calories out). You also don't need to buy sugary HFCS crap in America. And even if you do, it's still calories in vs calories out. You could lose weight on mcdonalds if you wanted.@@jennosyde709

@Allhailpablo 6 ай бұрын

Dominick was definitely the voice of reason throughout this conversation. So refreshing to see someone who understands a problem and the other side's points and is able to logically and empathetically produce his

@Claire-ux2qu 6 ай бұрын

except when they were talking about food deserts

@SmallSnailMarie 5 ай бұрын

I appreciate how during diet culture discussion he asked for the other guys definition rather than just arguing with him without knowing what he considered to be "diet culture". It really shows that he is a cognitive thinker and he is trying very hard to consider everyone's background for their opinions.

@kathysandoval7054 2 ай бұрын

We shouldn’t even think of “GETTING THIN” we need to strive for a healthy LIFESTYLE. Build healthy habits, learn to build a healthy plate, do research, exercise, lift, go outdoors! Eat your favorite meals too! Enjoy your “guilty pleasure”. We have so much access to information on the internet.

@Afrogirrl 2 ай бұрын

If you want to be healthy then you should strive for all kinds like your body weight. ‘Guilty pleasures’ are guilty for a reason

@missvendettaaa Ай бұрын

@@Afrogirrl No, the number on the scale does not mean healthy or unhealthy in all situations. Correlation does not equal causation. Also, many guilty pleasures are things that people feel guilty about because it is something outside what they view as normal because of society. It does not mean they should actually feel guilty.

@Afrogirrl Ай бұрын

@@missvendettaaa society? People should eat to their hearts extent and it’s okay to have excess adipose tissue, because of society?

@missvendettaaa Ай бұрын

@@Afrogirrl Why are you saying something that I didn’t. That is not what I was saying, read my comment again. I was addressing what was said in the OC.

@rico14 Ай бұрын

@@missvendettaaathat’s a bit disingenuous. Most people in America are overweight by +30 pounds on their frame, and telling them that aiming for a smaller weight is harmful. Might actually be counterproductive.

@ellabella803 Ай бұрын

10:59 there is no such thing as a fatphobic bias. If youre overweight and obese, you WILL get sicker easily. This is from personal experience, please just be so for real.

@ameerjabdoh5122 Ай бұрын

For the first time i hear this term in research !!! They always play as a victim and blame others and don't take responsibility for their actions .

@mysticarchives8823 28 күн бұрын

I think the point is that obesity can be caused by other conditions and that because obesity is so broadly correlated with worse quality of life, many doctors won't put in the effort to find and treat the root cause of poor health. If you have a genetic disease that causes you to gain weight AND is treatable by medication, but your doctor only tells you to exercise more and eat less, they're doing you a disservice.

@JemszZz 25 күн бұрын

I think there is a fatphobic bias in science, but it doesn't translate in the ways she explained. Obsesity is NEVER healthy, and being overweight increases all the health risks, and that is a fact. But there is a bias in many other areas, like attributing all the health problems to their weight without actually insisting on it like they would in a skinny person, or not taking in consideration all the sociocultural aspects surrounding someone (like Lauren in this video who thinks everyone can see an endocrinologists lol)

@chocolateprincess8543 19 күн бұрын

Fatphobic bias does exist.

@USGrant21st 18 күн бұрын

@@chocolateprincess8543 any woke word containing -phobic in it is a deception for feebleminded.

@rlrcia 7 ай бұрын

Being healthy is a choice.

@thecoolestcat5078 7 ай бұрын

@nukahina384 7 ай бұрын

@@thecoolestcat5078 it is tho

@Slim-MMA 7 ай бұрын

Fact. Obviously you can get unlucky, but for the most part it’s a choice.

@z3onix 7 ай бұрын

Depends on the situation

@saltchipper-7147 7 ай бұрын

Yes, and some people are healthy at higher weights

@Shirx.ley7 7 ай бұрын

It’s a huge problem that people don’t think obesity is unhealthy. Has nothing to do with being beautiful. Everything to do with dying early for no reason.

@9395gb 7 ай бұрын

Thank you. They are focused on the aesthetics of weight and beauty. It should not be about that. It's about health...high blood pressure, diabetes, heart attack, joint problems, breathing issues, stroke and earlier death. This can be said for being underweight as well. But the lack of acknowledgement of the weight being uncomfortable and impeding their ability to live a happier and long life.

@leftunsupervised 7 ай бұрын

This is based on my experience, so caveat there, but I've never met an obese person who thought that their obesity was healthy or even pleasant. It's very uncomfortable physically. I've met obese people who don't want to be judged as less healthy in their habits than skinny people and treated differently as a person based on their weight alone. Which, to me, is fair. I know loads of perfectly thin people with terrible eating habits who never work out. And many overweight people who eat healthy and exercise. 🤷

@Shirx.ley7 7 ай бұрын

@@leftunsupervised FYI I am an obese person. I never once have claimed to be healthy, as the people in the video are, nor do I think it’s ok. It’s a huge problem in America. I’ve been on a journey to get healthy and have lost 100 pounds in the last year because of my own personal choices. Everything comes down to choices. I’m still obese and I workout 5 days a week. At the core, nobody is naturally obese and I agree that we should all be treated equally but also obesity is a huge problem and only made worse by corporate greed and the overconsumption and gluttony taught in our society

@leftunsupervised 7 ай бұрын

@@Shirx.ley7 Congratulations! That's incredible! Is obesity healthy? No. Do many obese people have healthy habits equal to or exceeding the habits of loads of thin people? Yes. I know them personally. They're putting in the work like you, but they aren't getting the results like you. They have other conditions and health factors than you don't seem to have. So, GREAT! That's awesome! But know that your experience isn't universal, so you can't then stand up and say oh, well, it's always a choice. I think the people in the video, esp. Cambria, were saying that you can't assume she's just a person with no self-control based on looking at her. She has healthy habits, she just also has lupus and was given medication that made her gain weight. That wasn't her choice. She doesn't have the same scenario as you, nor should people assume that she does.

@Shirx.ley7 7 ай бұрын

@@leftunsupervised I understand where you’re coming from but I also am studying nutrition and exercise science and there’s no health condition that prevents weight loss by caloric deficit. It is how our bodies are fundamentally wired. Being slightly overweight may not be a choice but being obese is. Some may have to work harder but science is a fact. Understanding your own body and adjusting to your own needs is what it takes if you want to be healthy. There’s no one size fits all, but all should make every effort to be healthy. Nobody’s body is at a 300 pound set point, that’s not how it works chemically. Even with hormonal syndromes and issues, there are choices you can make to be at a healthy weight, I’ve seen it plenty of times and have my own experiences with physical limitations. There’s truly no valid excuse to being obese other than you just don’t want to put in the work, which I understand but let’s be honest about it. If someone is happy with their body then I’m happy for them, but I’m not going to agree that some people are healthy and obese and some people just can’t lose weight when it’s just simply not true.

@biagalves6553 2 ай бұрын

I wish I could participate on this discussion, love talking about it and meeting people that know how to be polite when expressing their opinions is so great

@compoking9413 Ай бұрын

Mad respect to Dominick. I agreed with everything he said.

@gacusrunner2004 Ай бұрын

Yea I have the same thoughts about him, he is very intelligent and have wisdom

@pxachholic 5 ай бұрын

Dominic seems very smart! He thinks very logically and doesn't victimize himself. I wish him a long and healthy life😁

@DoyinVoice 5 ай бұрын

Very smart and great communicator

@kab9706 4 ай бұрын

Agreed, he's very smart and seems sweet. I like that he takes accountability

@JM-yn8mb 4 ай бұрын

You better keep wishing LOL

@simba00784 4 ай бұрын

He a guy

@TheGreatPapyrusSpaghetti2697 4 ай бұрын

@lauranottuna 7 ай бұрын

I dont agree with everything said, but I am so glad about how relaxed the conversation was. Not much shaming, no screaming, no talking over each other.

@Wanderlust06705 7 ай бұрын

Same. After watching the trans debate this was really refreshing.

@rita8274 7 ай бұрын

Even when they obviously physically disagreed with someone talking, they weren't taking it to the next level by being unnecessarily rude. Nice to see the episodes coming back to actual discussions instead of just screaming matches.

@mon3yw4y 6 ай бұрын

They were talking over each other sometimes, perhaps not significantly enough to change the atmosphere of the conversation.

@jayart7928 6 ай бұрын

The fats should be shamed.

@drawingdoritu 6 ай бұрын

@@jayart7928i hope this is a joke

@vesuvius2444 2 ай бұрын

I once heard someone who had a drug addiction and a food addiction. Say that the food addiction was way worse because we have to eat everyday while the drugs he took weren't something he had to do. So the over eating temptation is always there for him every time he ate. People can definitely change their lot in life but it's definitely not an easy thing for certain people to overcome. It's much easier to never be obese and maintain that. In some ways it's a choice, in other ways, it isn't.

@MammothMorals 2 ай бұрын

The issue with minimum wage jobs is not that those people can't afford to eat healthy. Its that minimum wage jobs often are the most time consuming. They don't have the tike to cook a healthy meal. McDonald's isn't cheaper than rice and beans. But rice and beans takes longer to prep.

@sunshinecherries Ай бұрын

I think McD's is more expensive per unit meal compared to groceries. I live in Toronto and $25 of fast food would feed me for 2-3 meals. But $3 rice + $10 veggies + $12 meat will feed me for 6-7 meals. I spend about $50-$60 on groceries per week and cook most of my meals. Going back to what you mentioned about time - my instant pot and slow cooker have been huge time savers for me 😅 just toss stuff in and let it do its thing

@Spijen Ай бұрын

@@sunshinecherries i get the whole "cheaper in the long run to buy groceries" thing, but sometimes people dont realize that we dont have the $50 to spend in the first place. Luckily im finally able to buy groceries, but for a long time i only had $50/week and that was for literally everything-- food, toiletries, etc. Now i always buy whats gonna save money i the long run, but there were so many times where i had to spend my $15 on some super cheap fast food and had to make it stretch for days

@dannygonxalez9011 Ай бұрын

mcdonald’s has gotten so expensive, i save so much more money when i cook at home and spend an hour or so meal prepping.

@MammothMorals Ай бұрын

@@Spijen again $15 will get you more out of groceries if you buy correctly than it would fast food.

@sunshinecherries Ай бұрын

@@MammothMorals agreed. $15 will MAYBE get you 4 items from a super value menu. Generally, food is more expensive the more processed it is. I just buy "raw" groceries and cook food myself 😁

@isaiahharris7046 6 ай бұрын

They should do another episode to where it's the exact same prompt but this time it's nothing but doctors debating. That would be interesting

@christinasanderford5849 6 ай бұрын

ooohhh yeah

@FKDame 6 ай бұрын

Yeah except they’re not going to be debating because it’s not really a debate

@isaiahharris7046 6 ай бұрын

@FKDame yes they would there's so many different opinions among various different doctors.

@elianavictor108 6 ай бұрын

There would most likely not be a debate. Science shows that it is not healthy for someone to be overweight. In terms of beauty or ability to be a happy person, that is a different discussion, but most likely all doctors will agree from a health standpoint.

@chouyi7591 6 ай бұрын

itd be hard to find a doctor that’s pro obesity

@YTho-ev1ej 6 ай бұрын

Being skinny doesn’t mean your healthy but being obese means you are unhealthy. I think parents have a duty to make sure their kids are healthy, both mentally and physically (and being overweight pertains to both)

@duels 6 ай бұрын

@@KaitlinSkilton not very often you can say its not food related. people will always come up with excuses

@duels 6 ай бұрын

@@KaitlinSkilton look at other countries, clearly something is going on that’s severely unproportionate. not just conditions as it’s made out to be

@FakeVenatus 6 ай бұрын

@@KaitlinSkiltonyes and this apparently uncommon thing seems to affect mostly Americans it seems. Definitely not the fact the USA is known for junk foods high in sugar and with less care about what chemicals go in than most other countries

@TheAmazingHoho576 6 ай бұрын

And emotionally!

@tartantulakid666 6 ай бұрын

@@KaitlinSkilton it's a bit of a stereotype that the woman always looks for the exception and not the rule. Are we really going to pretend that 60% of the adult US population all have genetic diseases?

@x.elliek.x 2 ай бұрын

10:30 i'm sorry but if she's average weight then i'm a literal skeleton 😭😭

@keeling1813 26 күн бұрын

Dominick actually opened my eyes to some different perspectives, dude seemed super solid and a great guy

@koraliee 7 ай бұрын

Dominick seems like a great guy and came off as very intelligent and level-headed. Props to him.

@arabellamoore2082 7 ай бұрын

are we all just gonna ignore that Parker is clearly struggling with an eating disorder....

@eleriamirayse6859 7 ай бұрын

Not just him

@zxr250 6 ай бұрын

I've seen several comments talking about it - so people aren't ignoring it.

@AlisonMendez-bx8tp 6 ай бұрын

Multiple ppl in this video have an eating disorder

@oreochocolate_lavacake9960 6 ай бұрын

I think he's aware of it as he did mention he is underweight so I hope he's geting the help he needs.

@oreochocolate_lavacake9960 6 ай бұрын

@@eleriamirayse6859 We're not talking about other people we're talking about Parker.

@NubianNefertiti Ай бұрын

11:06 Madeline IS NOT the average weight for women in America.

@jeannemeiring30 2 күн бұрын

Nopee😂She is not of a normal weight

@midapa2530 2 ай бұрын

Dominic is such a lovely and logical person 👏👏👏

@gusudeani6071 7 ай бұрын

I feel like Lauren views being skinny through her own personal lens rather than objectively. The fact she straight faced said skinny people don’t eat junk food is BAFFLING. I’m 118lbs(53kg) and during my early twenties I was eating cake for breakfast some days. I would’ve loved a little bit more back and forth and challenge to Lauren’s claims.

@uchennanwogu2142 7 ай бұрын

how many calories did you consume? daily

@popkick8350 7 ай бұрын

@@uchennanwogu2142The point wasn’t really about how much cake is eaten or not. It was about eating cake at all since Lauren made the claim skinny people don’t eat junk.

@gibbono 7 ай бұрын

⁠⁠⁠@@popkick8350 I’d like to think that Lauren was referring to the fact that skinny people don’t eat much calorie wise which is why she said they don’t eat much junk food either. Metabolism can play a big part but at the end of the day if you’re still skinny even after eating “a lot” then you’re not actually eating that many calories/junk food in this case.

@curryascocarrasco4829 7 ай бұрын

I work out because it's fun and it allows me to eat more!

@chitownjaxxk7644 7 ай бұрын

@@gibbonobut that’s not true , she should speak for herself because that’s false .

@JKDC97 6 ай бұрын

Is anyone checking on Parker? He started the discussion saying that being skinny is a choice because there are some days that he chooses not to eat to later admitting that he is anorexic. That's an eating disorder and just as unhealthy as overeating and being obese. (Also, its important to point out that men's mental health, especially with regard to eating disorders, is SO overlooked and not acknowledged enough)

@isa640 6 ай бұрын

Why do we need to check on him. He said himself it's a "choice."

@aaronaldo14 6 ай бұрын

He’s aware that he is severely underweight

@prayed249 6 ай бұрын

def not as unhealthy as overeating or being obese but he should find some kind of help so he can be at a healthy weight

@rainnnnnnn 6 ай бұрын

Is anyone checking on overweight people in this video?

@annemmie 6 ай бұрын

@@isa640well having an ed is never a choice

@JasmineJones-dy1cx Ай бұрын

I would’ve loved to be apart of this!! So cool.

@hearts4av Ай бұрын

i love how civil this is

@keirahleesha486 7 ай бұрын

I laughed so hard when Lauren said “Skinny people” don’t go to the junk food aisle 😂😂 Just because someone is skinny doesn’t mean they are healthy ✌🏽

@sweet3488 7 ай бұрын

Lol yea they say junk food is horrible but people like Parker thinks it’s fine to not eat for entire days

@leftunsupervised 7 ай бұрын

@@sweet3488 And Lauren was really vibing with that grapes and lettuce only diet 😂 Ah yes, fiber and fructose bombs. So healthy.

@avalonstout1490 7 ай бұрын

@@leftunsupervisedshe literally said the exact opposite. She was actually anti dieting

@britterthecritter4531 7 ай бұрын

Facts, I’ve been skinny my whole life and got high cholesterol 💀💀

@leftunsupervised 7 ай бұрын

@@AlesBejr-jk2py Thank you. I don't know why people keep ignoring what words mean in favor of how they are feeling about a word at the time they are typing it.

@symonewest5449 3 ай бұрын

"Going to the doctor is a choice" one of the most privileged things I've ever heard

@Z1eepy_Rameos 2 ай бұрын

It is if you are fortunate enough. It also depends on where you live. For example being poor in America in need of medical attention then you have the worst luck. I wouldn’t call having basic rights privileged tho.

@Martina-cr9io 2 ай бұрын

mainly in america

@Szaknj 2 ай бұрын

DEADASS

@MrManagemiracles 2 ай бұрын

It shouldn't be, what's the point of taxes if there isn't public free /affordable Healthcare

@saf1692 2 ай бұрын

That's only if you live somewhere without free healthcare. Here in Canada it is a choice.

@glennmoe5177 18 күн бұрын

I like how dominick and lauren share most all of there opinions and the comment section is only attacking lauren and praising dominick

@Schroberry Ай бұрын

SUPPORT =/= ENABLING

@bibbo3167 7 ай бұрын

This was one of the most genuinely productive episodes they’ve had in a while-no arguing, yelling, passive aggression etc

@ymoonysun9130 7 ай бұрын

Productive for me is when the debate has quality and brings a logical fresh light to the subjet: but this episode was one of the most unproductive ones since no facts, no arguments structure, no science was brought, only weak opinions based on emotions ://

@bibbo3167 7 ай бұрын

@@ymoonysun9130 baby steps baby steps lol

@LadyNellie 7 ай бұрын

@@ymoonysun9130huh?

@BabyJellyfish 7 ай бұрын

None of this was productive. Not shouting at each other is the barest of. Minimums

@ShadowJinxXOX 7 ай бұрын

⁠@@ymoonysun9130I disagree, an argument doesn’t need a statistic attached to it if it can still provide sound reasoning to its basis. And there was a decent amount of times that deductive reasoning was applied from both sides, maybe not always perfectly, but fair points were discussed

@laurynelizz__ 7 ай бұрын

This discussion needed more people at healthy weights and with healthy relationships with food. Even the skinny people exhibit a lot of disordered behaviors from what I can tell, based on what they’ve told us

@TheDevastator619 7 ай бұрын

When Parker openly said he “chooses” not to eat some days, it screamed depravation to me. Sure there are days when you’re not hungry and your body doesn’t prompt to eat, but if you’re actively making the choice to suppress when your body is telling you you’re hungry is harmful.

@rosee8140 7 ай бұрын

I kinda wanna see the opposite, morbidly obese vs diagnosed anorexic.

@weirdflex8158 7 ай бұрын

@@TheDevastator619not necessarily no. Fasting is great for lots of people

@Idkchangethislater 7 ай бұрын

Exactly both sides seemed kinda…Struggling…

@Formerlywendytestaburger1621 7 ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure he meant that his appetite is so low that he wouldn't eat because he talked about it as an unhealthy thing@@TheDevastator619

@lamonnaiemer 2 ай бұрын

I really love that they brought this variety of perspectives together in a harmonious way despite the differences of their opinions and active realities. I deeply appreciate this broadcast. And for the exposure and the interruption of Lauren.

@MotivationCTA 27 күн бұрын

Green shirt girl saying she is the average weight of a female is concerning

@DearAliya 6 ай бұрын

I hope Dominick see's all of the support from the comments on this video and always feels motivated to achieve his personal health goals so that he can have the future he wishes for - he deserves it!

@georgiadriven 6 ай бұрын

I agree!

@lisac6905 7 ай бұрын

This should be renamed Anorexia vs Binge Eating Disorder. In the first 5 minutes that one guy said he chooses to go without food some days. Literally every person on this panel has said something that relates to disordered eating. Jubilee needs to vet their speakers better because both sides are just pushing an unhealthy lifestyle.

@user-he2ou2ex2f 7 ай бұрын

Yh 100%. Jubilee just loves to get outliers in the discussion. While still interesting takes away from what the debate should’ve been.

@FeelMyRhythm2U 7 ай бұрын

Exactly.

@user-sf9gs2pg1b 7 ай бұрын

Yeah, I thought that was incredibly strange. Once I saw the skinny guy I immediately thought he had an eating disorder or something.

@rosee8140 7 ай бұрын

The skinny side is definitely not 'anorexic', having disordered eating and being skinny is not the same as anorexia.

@trilogy135 7 ай бұрын

Yup

@luyandalamula9009 2 ай бұрын

I love how it starts off with the disagreers for the first prompt explaining the nuances around her weight and the skinny girl continues to list things that may be out of your control as a choice. @3:57

@destinyani 2 ай бұрын

The whole weight issue is not cut and dry… therefore, no need to be rude to anyone. Calories in/out is definitely not always the case either.

@knucklehead0111 25 күн бұрын

Lol it's always the answer to gain or lose there is no in between of course there are single individuals who will be outliers but we are talking vast majority here

@anonmouse15 17 күн бұрын

CICO is always "disproven" by obese people claiming they only eat 500 kj per day, not counting the multiple daily junk food runs they choose to ignore. That is to say, not disproven at all. We have a very easy and indisputable method on how to test CICO, but for some reason, the anti-CICO zealots refuse to undertake it.

@aaazzz8324 6 күн бұрын

@@knucklehead0111yeah, but even if its a matter of calories in and out, there are many reason why it would be really difficult for someone to lose (or gain) weight. So it’s unnecessary to be rude to people just because of their weight. Why would we even be rude anyway, it’s not like their weight is casing us harm. It’s a just a matter of respecting people and acknowledging that we dont know them, we dont know what they are going through. And everyone deserves respect anyway.

@knucklehead0111 6 күн бұрын

@@aaazzz8324 did I say be rude to anyone? You are just going off on a tangent about something that I wasn't even arguing lol

@aaazzz8324 6 күн бұрын

@knucklehead0111 No, but since your responded to someone talking about not being rude to overweight people, I just added that to my answer about "gain or lose", that's all. It was just to complete my answer, both in regard to the original comment and to yours. It's not directed at you personally.

@elik8448 4 ай бұрын

Lauren 100% has the same vibes as a mom who very much causes all her kids to have eating disorders and control issues. I really valued Dominik's self awareness though, he not only acknowledged that being skinny can also be unhealthy and that he himself has unhealthy eating habits but also showed a lot of empathy towards others while they were speaking about their experience.

@GoldenGoosey26 4 ай бұрын

Or or or, she teaches her kids healthy eating habits

@DajaMoonSage 4 ай бұрын

@@GoldenGoosey26 Doubt it...she said she was for 'body shamming' someone into trying to get healthy. This is how self-image issues start, which can then lead to eating disorders. Body Shamming someone generally does not work. If anything, it can push more mental health issues.

@batswanamodipane7774 4 ай бұрын

true, I like how he actually admitted that his perspective has changed, which is the whole point of these videos I think

@brianamiss 4 ай бұрын

How do you figure? I see her as the voice of reason. Obesity is not healthy, period. She was also not shying away from the FACT that obesity is not visually appealing to anyone save for people with fetishes.

@bekind9827 3 ай бұрын

@@GoldenGoosey26 My mother who is somewhat similar to Lauren and it has made me fairly unhealthy... Like I will feel like when she is not around I just need to stuff my mouth with bad food because its the only time when I dont have to worry about her judgement. I will say, to some extent the things she says make a lot of sense however she takes it a bit to far and struggles to understand that living a healthy lifestyle is not a one size fits all thing.

@dewis9997 5 ай бұрын

The plus-size community needs more people like Dominic to speak up because if a skinny person says what he said, it doesn't come off the same/ some might feel it's fatphobia, but if he says it, it's more accepted.

@jaysellers011 5 ай бұрын

It's sad that the Western society is like that. I think humans with different backgrounds should all have a voice

@jeffisjeff5511 5 ай бұрын

Are you sure he’s plus sized? Because most plus sized people are healthy. Since plus sized is just a bigger build instead of overweight or obese

@gur262 5 ай бұрын

@@jeffisjeff5511😂😂😂no plus sized is obesity, in almost every example of it

@jeffisjeff5511 5 ай бұрын

@@gur262 Plus sized isn’t obesity. They both are different things. Please do research because it’s very bad to spread misinformation. Many plus sized people are healthy. They just have bigger bodies which would be healthy for them. Again plus sized and obesity are completely different. Don’t mesh them together.

@Winkle-Dinkle 5 ай бұрын

@@jeffisjeff5511I’m pretty sure plus sized is simply an umbrella term that refers to anyone above the average weight across a population. This can include oversight, obese, or morbidly obese. At least that is what the trustworthy sources purport.

@klipklapklop3359 2 күн бұрын

2 truths and 1 lie 1) Fire is hot 2) Ice is cold 3) I keep gaining weight even though I eat salads and fruits all the time and workout alot

@Iiwii726 Ай бұрын

There always that one with the thousand yard stare, "cough, cough" red dress😂

@lovedlavender3266 6 ай бұрын

I'd love it if Jubilee made a common ground or spectrum videos about bullying, such as people who were bullied and even former bullies who stopped bullying.

@justhumanrampai4882 6 ай бұрын

Ohh, I’d watch this. I’d like to hear some of the thought processes

@lainaaa9075 6 ай бұрын

YESSSSSA

@shackles5850 6 ай бұрын

yes

@sowhat1674 6 ай бұрын

Usually, bullies are not aware that they are bullies.

@user-ss4ek3zo4d 6 ай бұрын

yeah, but how would you define that, because most bullies were bullied at home or by other people, most of the so-called victims of bullies have been bullies themselves, I feel like everyone on earth has been both a bully and the victim of a bully at some point

@socialmimicry 6 ай бұрын

I really don't think Madeline is considered average size as she claims.

@Lagiacrus1996 6 ай бұрын

Yeah like a quick google shows its about 170lbs. I don't think she's 170...

@rchilla5860 6 ай бұрын

I almost spat out my damn water when she said she was the average.

@brxndan222 6 ай бұрын

i had to pause the video and just stare at disbelief in what she said

@hayleywhelan3243 6 ай бұрын

Maybe it's because she's so top heavy that can make you look so much bigger

@lilycakes49 6 ай бұрын

Height contributes to how weight looks on someone. She's pretty short

@TheLostSheep578 2 ай бұрын

It is not about being skinny or obese. Both are unhealthy in their own ways. It is about being healthy. Your weight should correspond with your height and vice versa.

@tonyisnotdead 2 ай бұрын

what about being skinny alone is unhealthy?

@lamonnaiemer 2 ай бұрын

Shame should not be used as a tool for motivation. If you’re trying to motivate someone, ENCOURAGE them. With kindness and respect. Show some compassion for people. PERIOD. Guilt and shame does not equate to any kind of push towards aspirations or goals or even better self esteem!

@oluchi8910 6 ай бұрын

Now this is a DISCUSSION! It doesn’t matter what side you’re on, people sitting down with opposing views and still being able to have a civil adult conversation while not cutting each other off and really LISTENING to all sides even if they don’t agree is super underrated

@oponomo 6 ай бұрын

funny thing is: this wasn't 2 opposite views, it was 2 opposite body types. Most of them have similar views which makes this a very weird jubilee versus.

@tartantulakid666 6 ай бұрын

There is only one correct side in this discussion. Being obese shouldn't be normalised and shouldn't be accepted. All I heard from the obese people were lies about their eating habits and lies about how great they feel. When you start to see their behaviour from the addiction perspective, their lying and deceit makes a lot more sense.

@Piinnkbunnii 6 ай бұрын

lol my name twin! Are you Nigerian or Nigerian American?

@amyswallow742 6 ай бұрын

i feel like this is one of the healthiest jubilee discussions i've seen and that's sad

@Brooklynnspov 6 ай бұрын

@@tartantulakid666then your lying about liking to be skinny

@veronicawinja3682 6 ай бұрын

As an African who moved to America, food and the food system has been one of the biggest challenges that I have experienced. It's a system that's not for the people at all! and it's even worse for the poor e.g. homeless people. The food quantities are abnormal, vegetables are way more expensive than junk food, there's a lot of variety of junk food. Food here is more for pleasure than for nutritional value.

@Summer-ke5es 6 ай бұрын

Agree. After moving to the US I gained so much weight. And the creziest thing is that I'm gaining weight from simple stuff like potatoes, for example. It doesn't matter if I boil them or grill I still gaining weight. Back home I could it potatoes as much as I want and never gained even one pound.

@itsnotif.itswhen 6 ай бұрын

@@Summer-ke5essame with meat quality. I suspect the way they raise farm animals here is different that contributes to the obesity epidemic.

@justme.11 6 ай бұрын

Should be the number 1 comment.

@selinacadisch8449 6 ай бұрын

its so crazy cuz for example in Switzerland,which is where i live, most American foods aren‘t even allowed bc of how much chemical and just generally unhealthy stuff is in them.

@Oxymera 6 ай бұрын

I always hear about immigrants eating the same diet they had from their home country and still gaining weight. There must be something in our food that causes this

@jsudlow12 4 күн бұрын

Lolol 23:10 “Sickly Victorian child” my boy Domink knew what was up

@howlroseXI 26 күн бұрын

Love the guy with the Hawaiian 🌺 shirt he is so knowledgeable and well spoken

@16ilovevampires 7 ай бұрын

Topic idea: Parents of multiple children vs. People who are childfree by choice Some prompt suggestions: I've been judged for my choices My moral or religious beliefs have contributed to my decision I feel represented in social media I sometimes envy the other side

@meyass4163 7 ай бұрын

this is the most interesting suggestion ive seen @jubilee 👈👈

@RachelDee 6 ай бұрын

Additional prompt: my financial habits and goals contributed to my choice

@dinkyboss 6 ай бұрын

This! I have a feeling they’ll make that video soon because it’s very topical

@vl0731 6 ай бұрын

Yes!

@savannahrichardson254 6 ай бұрын

Yesss

@mengl29 7 ай бұрын

As someone who has lost a ton of weight (45kg aka 100 pounds), it is definitely difficult to lose weight. Getting over that initial craving / transition period is really really hard. However, once you get past that first month or so it does get easier. And it feels so much better! You can do so many more things more easily, and life just generally improves. If you are currently going through the weight loss process, don't give up, you can do this, I did, so you definitely can!

@poejavelski148 7 ай бұрын

Great job on your progress! I absolutely agree. I was the opposite, I was once 130 pounds at 6’3, and lean bulked 60-65 pounds over a few years. The hardest part was definitely near the beginning, changing your life long eating habits is super tough. After about 30 pounds gained, I felt like I had developed much better habits and was much happier and just kept going from there.

@mengl29 7 ай бұрын

@@poejavelski148 Sounds like you've done amazing mate, congratulations on your successful efforts. I will say, as someone who has been on both sides of the spectrum, it is still difficult for me not to either undereat or potentially overeat, however, i'm doing my best to maintain a healthy lifestyle, and in the end that's all we can do. Do our best to be the best version of ourselves we can

@poejavelski148 7 ай бұрын

@@mengl29 Love to hear it, keep doing what you’re doing 💪

@JW-1089 7 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing. There are so many weight loss stories on this app that are very inspiring.

@mengl29 7 ай бұрын

@@JW-1089No, thank you for taking the time to read it, I appreciate it

@zklpr4661 2 ай бұрын

Dominick seems like a guy who'd be fun to go have a drink with. He gives me awesome dad vibes.

@ellasoriginalchannel9713 2 ай бұрын

Dominick is amazing. Huge respect.

@joshhoggle 3 ай бұрын

i weighed 230 and came down to 140 it changed my life actually my whole outlook im more positive and my mental vibes are way more delightful

@dank4556 3 ай бұрын

I think people underestimate how much isn’t just physical but mental. My therapist actually recommended exercise to help my mental health, I went from a bmi of 30.1 to 23.6 and not only did every health marker improved but so did my depression and really all aspects of my life. I feel so much better in all ways as I started taking care of my health

@joshhoggle 3 ай бұрын

way to go pal!@@dank4556

@user-ch6uw4pf2x 2 ай бұрын

I think a lot of it is do to the lifestyle changed that came with weight loss. Body image is only one part of it

@Shark-pj8in 2 ай бұрын

@@dank4556it is physically straining which can cause mental strain too. As well as society hating on bigger people.

@Jaysi_NY03 2 ай бұрын

That crazy I started 250 and now I also came down 140. I salute you !!!, it was not easy. “Self discipline”

@kaitie4200 7 ай бұрын

As someone who has been both severely underweight AND overweight, the way I was treated while overweight was so much worse. Sure, I was made fun of while I was too thin - but doctors believed me, strangers were kinder to me, the world accomodated me.

@Sarah-xq4cf 7 ай бұрын

OMG THIS! I was overweight and nobody ever batted an eye to me, never got compliments, etc. Lost 30 lbs due to depression and there were so many compliments but I was in such a worse mindset. I've gained back around 14lbs and I've been so happy even though the compliments went away. It's crazy how our weight (even just a minimal amount in change) can make people view us differently in seconds.

@chainsaw_king0476 7 ай бұрын

Actually I agree with this overweight people do have it worse when It comes to bullying but it comes to compliments I think it's because people overlook how harmful it is to be under weight. As they aren't as noticeable at a glance as clothes often times hide it

@DrArthurCGarp 7 ай бұрын

Bingo! I grew up very overweight, I don’t think I ever hit clinical obesity but there was no mistaking how big I was. When I finally lost weight the treatment I received from others made me want to cry and so I kept going until I was nearly underweight. When I say I went from getting zero attention (dating wise) to being hit on I mean it. When “nobody” cares about you and then you suddenly have people telling you how amazing you look and should feel it does something to you psychologically and physically

@ronny-yj8oc 7 ай бұрын

True, but being underweight is also a HUGE struggle that so many people are overlooking and feel free to comment and judge on easily since "you're skinny".

@Blakoss 7 ай бұрын

It’s pretty privilege. People are subconsciously nicer to better looking people. It’s got nothing to do with how healthy you are just how sexually attractive you look. It’s pretty messed up but it’s life

@StevenGregoryJayy 2 ай бұрын

Shout out to Dominick. He’s a solid dude 💪🏾 💯

@jaidyn732 2 ай бұрын

the girl in the red dress (lauren i think?) is incredibly privileged to think everyone is able to live the same way she is

@X11CHASE Ай бұрын

And you’re a moron if you think it requires privilege to be in shape 🤣

@dannygonxalez9011 Ай бұрын

she seems uneducated and the wrong person to have on the “skinny” team

@windwielder187 4 ай бұрын

Madeline did not just say she is average weight

@valarmorghulis25 4 ай бұрын

Yeah that was insane

@queenleo5578 3 ай бұрын

She said she was the closest out of all of them. The average size in the US is like a size between a 14-16 now

@n0isy-rat 3 ай бұрын

The average hieght and weight of women in america is 170lbs and 5’4 😰

@Goosebeoms_ 3 ай бұрын

@@n0isy-ratAin't no way💀🤚

@lcvinhannah 3 ай бұрын

@@Goosebeoms_ idk how true it is because it’s google but that’s what it says.

@isawhatudid343 7 ай бұрын

It is not about being "skinny". It is about being a reasonable weight. Your knees and hips will thank you.

@raihanmahajana3579 22 күн бұрын

"well it does takes more fabric to make it" burned 😂😂😂😂

@dariusjohn7581 2 ай бұрын

I love the congeniality and well-manneredness of the plus-sized people. Great conversation and great questions.

@LeonB1 7 ай бұрын

Can we appreciate dominick by being so honest

@doctorposting 7 ай бұрын

everyone praising dom cause he was the only normal one in a group full of fools😂

@marlonmoncrieffe0728 7 ай бұрын

There were other non-fools here, @@doctorposting. Actually, only Madeline, Cambria, and Lauren were bad.

@doctorposting 7 ай бұрын

@@marlonmoncrieffe0728Lauren was the only one with any logic

@marlonmoncrieffe0728 7 ай бұрын

Lauren was uncharitable but yeah, smarter than Cambria, at least, @@doctorposting .

@choclte_vbes6979 7 ай бұрын

@@doctorposting disingenuous take

@cloudyns 7 ай бұрын

Lauren was embarrassing to be honest. "Skinny people don't eat junk food". She also was implying that only skinny people can wear bikinis and provocative outfits but that bigger people shouldn't. She seemed very clueless.

@whalium889 6 ай бұрын

I am hoping she learned a lot from being on this episode of middle ground because it seemed like there was a lot she didn’t know.

@kiriavatar123 6 ай бұрын

She was def trying to be combative when everyone else seemed to be having a really empathetic back and forth

@Kingofthenet2 6 ай бұрын

@@whalium889so true

@elizabethrhiannon2924 6 ай бұрын

When Madeline said she was the average weight of a woman in the U.S. and Lauren shook her head aggressively… she definitely seemed fatphobic. I say that as a skinny girl. She definitely wanted to be condescending and rude to them

@sugarfish223 6 ай бұрын

@@elizabethrhiannon2924 IOW, she very badly wanted to "Show Her Concern"(TM). Funny how such "concerned" people just can't quite get to the point of faking empathy long enough to be convincing.

@elaina9483 2 ай бұрын

I don't understand why people claim they're healthy being obese, but then argue that medical issues make them gain weight.....

@shadowwolf5877 2 ай бұрын

There are some medications that make people gain weight. If they do gain weight it’s not always their fault, the medication can be a big factor to that. I’m not saying that’s for all people who are heavier I’m saying some who are could be taking medication. I’m personally in the middle of it’s your choice but it’s also not a choice

@Nebulawanderer403 7 күн бұрын

Dominick is great and I’m glad he doesn’t make excuses like the others. His mentality is spot on, I can guarantee he will the one only out of the other overweight guests that WILL make a change and focus on his health. He’s realistic and focuses on the health benefits of being a “skinny” person not just the aesthetic. I like his perspective and his take on these arguments. 👏🏻

@NicoleReign 7 ай бұрын

Lauren is so blind to her privilege, it’s tragic. In the US, no, everyone doesn’t have the choice to walk into a doctor’s office (which is hundreds of dollars….) and get checked. Crazy that she made that suggestion

@jaynez9027 7 ай бұрын

Agree. Her responses were pretty out of touch.

@Eroshenkova 7 ай бұрын

If you realy care about yourself you will get the money for your health. Btw in Russia it's free.

@cd3xp 7 ай бұрын

plus not everyone lives close to a grocery store !

@sznlaura 7 ай бұрын

@@Eroshenkovain america average people can’t afford it. Have family ther but am from europe and its really nit accesible to many people there bc like for some its either paying for food and school and rent or doctor

@user-he2ou2ex2f 7 ай бұрын

@@jaynez9027 nah, she keeps it real. No wonder she can manage her own weight. We’re just a society that enables self victimisation. No accountability.

@nae2115 7 ай бұрын

this was such an interesting conversation as someone who is considered skinny and is trying so hard to gain weight.

@silk132 7 ай бұрын

yuuuup. with you

@justinsime3786 7 ай бұрын

Same here

@fatib3200 7 ай бұрын

Sure but there’s a certain point where you don’t wanna gain anymore

@julsskye 7 ай бұрын

me too! i wish there was someone with that perspective in the video

@ohhhbirdy5975 7 ай бұрын

not trying hard enough

@leeretaschen231 3 күн бұрын

For the people who are saying that eating healthy is too expensive, is it more expensive than ordering a half dozen cheeseburgers in the drive through? If you were eating a more appropriate quantity of food, it wouldn’t be so expensive.

@olliej.2603 2 ай бұрын

If you hate yourself while trying to lose weight then you’re most likely not going to either lose the weight or keep the weight off. Loving yourself through the whole process will not only grow you physically but mentally and emotionally. ❤

@The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare 2 ай бұрын

because it's so easy to just love yourself?

@aaazzz8324 6 күн бұрын

@@The_Tortoise_and_the_HareNo, but that’s why body positivity and learning to love yourself is important for a lot of people.

@The_Tortoise_and_the_Hare 5 күн бұрын

@@aaazzz8324 better to try and lose weight, why love getting a bunch of weight related diseases... I won't join that club

@metronia2183 4 ай бұрын

nah the way Lauren was slowly shaking her head when Madeline said she was the average weight for women in America 💀. 10.32

@victoriaperez2752 4 ай бұрын

Lol she like no im the only example of average

@_diw_5705 3 ай бұрын

like wtf shawty said she average weight at like 300 pounds

@slimey.1387 3 ай бұрын

Yea I was like pretty sure the average weight is 170 lbs in America… 😭

@canary3853 3 ай бұрын

I mean she was actively wrong. There is *no way* that woman is 170lb’s or lighter. Which is fine. I could not care less how much she weighs. I do think it’s a false perception of either herself or the rest of society.

@kv913 3 ай бұрын

Because Madeline is delusional