Are Mesa Rectifier Amps Obsolete?

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Жыл бұрын

I play a Mesa Triple Rec, dial it in & boost it with a few overdrive pedals. Are these amps just old relics, or are they still relevant today?
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@martinhensley2377 Жыл бұрын

I think the Triple Rec is still relevant today, a great amp.

@Dobis86 Жыл бұрын

They are absolutely relevant today, I saw Animals As Leaders last year and Tosin was using a Dual Rec. Tons of local metal/hardcore/thrash bands are using Dual and Single recs. These amps will never go out of style. There will always be room for 5150s and Dual rectifiers in heavy music.

@TheCyberMantis Жыл бұрын

I heard Tosin is now using the Bad Cat LYNX.

@kreepthedestroyer Жыл бұрын

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought he used them as power amps for his axe fx only. yes also heard they are using bad cat now

@Turboy65 Жыл бұрын

I've owned three Rectos, two triples and a dual, and once you tighten up their bottom end with a boost in the preamp, you're there, you've got a modern metal tone that is as relevant today as it was 30 years ago when the Rectos were new. Only competing companies want you to think that Rectos are obsolete. They're not.

@andremessias2974 7 күн бұрын

why to use a rectro that needs us to "tighten up their bottom end with a boost in the preamp" if there are other modern options that dont need that ?

@user-jq4fz6co8b 4 ай бұрын

I just bought a Rec right before Christmas this year and I find myself falling deeper and deeper in love with it. No boost. There’s a period for sure where you’ll struggle to dial it in, but when you take heed to the manual and dial it in with an attenuator so you can get the volumes up, this amp absolutely CRUSHES. Highly relevant as it has been for the last 25 or so years. The Rec is probably the 3rd most recorded amp in history, I’m willing to bet. First is probably a Fender and second is the Marshall 1959 model.

@shanelaing4402 Жыл бұрын

Nice video mate. Love the recto. I love hearing it on recordings and in live setting. Personally I’ve got one. It’s not as cutting edge or flexible as my KSR heads but sometimes I get curious and plug the rectifier in. It’s fun time especially when you’ve spent some time away from it. They have their own thing going on and are legendary for a reason. 🙏

@jimfischer5670 Жыл бұрын

Changed my knobs out for the chicken head knobs for the exact reason you mentioned in the beginning. Still have the chrome ones, they are just in a bag now.

@Acd81 Жыл бұрын

Great video man..I think they still sound great I have a roadster and love it.

@rosskrause3926 Жыл бұрын

Damn its sounds massive ! All 3 pedals did their thing but if I had to have one for a Triple Rec it would be the Pepers Dirty Tree..Great jobs as always !

@TONEWARSgearshow Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@youztuber5000 Жыл бұрын

Was my favorite amp for years, I'll always love it

@rockitmanvideos4247 Жыл бұрын

Mesa recto's with boost is relevant today. Dirty Tree is also my favorite recto boost. Love your playing and reviews. Thank you!

@MK-oz2lf Жыл бұрын

I think my favorite Rectifier tone is Wes Hauch on Alluvial’s SARCOMA album. It was a Rectifier using the Fortin Whitechapel signature Blade overdrive. *chef’s kiss IMO

@michaelgallegos8811 Жыл бұрын

That's sick Jarrod 😅I always liked that Amp should have got one when they was 750 on reverb before the pandemic !awesome video Jarrod ✌️🎶🎸

@ras1988 Жыл бұрын

Still relevant, especially with the number of boost and overdrive options available now. You can sculpt whatever you need out of a recto. I personally don’t get along with the play feel of rectos but I totally get the appeal.

@ilikeheadcrabs Жыл бұрын

Volume definitely helps with rectos, if you’re able to get it to the output and master on half it opens up a load and removes any fizz. Totally needs a boost to get proper modern high gain, I’ve also always found having something in the loop helps too (even if you have whatever it is turned off) and also have had good results with an EQ in the loop too. Much prefer these to 5150s

@Mozerellaattitude 6 ай бұрын

I’ll never understand the love with the peavey versions. It’s literally so tight that it sucks the tone out.

@davej8045 Жыл бұрын

I was considering getting one of these but the Triple Crown 100 was something relatively new and haven’t looked back after getting it. Willie Adler did a demo with it and I put one on layaway as soon as someone had it in stock. On a separate note, the price went up $1,100 on the TC in just two years. That seems like a lot, more than the next boutique amplifier I’m thinking about. The double/triple rects. and their lineage will be relevant for quite some time to come, more so now because of being better able to season to suit by just adding a boost. Off on a tangent, but I’m considering an EBMM Jason Richardson Cutlass and can’t decide between 6 or 7. I’ll try the 6 at the music store this week and compare it to a JP something 7

@licccio2133 11 ай бұрын

I like to set them with the treble knob all the way down, it helps to get that mid forward tone associated with more modern metal. Gets into a 5150-ish territory with a boost

@MrJeffwards 4 ай бұрын

Absolutely still relevant. I’ve played every brand you can probably think of from ampeg-wizard and my keepers currently are a 1987x, jcm800 2204, Mesa mark iv, rev g dual rec and a 5150iii 100s. The tried & true classics and for good reason.

@cblizard6850 3 ай бұрын

I traded my recto for a diezel about 6 months ago. I don’t have the diezel anymore and I should have another r mesa next week!! I will always, ALWAYS love mesa tones!

@briant40 Ай бұрын

I think the recto sound will make a come back and more guitarist will go after that recto tone

@erikrummel6277 6 ай бұрын

Love the reviews man!!!!!! You cut through the BS and get right to the good tones!!!! You are basically like a boost pedal for metal amp reviews 😂😂😂. Speaking of boosts….. I am looking to get one for my triple rec, I am torn, I like the ones you suggest but I want to try the precision drive. Do you think I would be disappointed if I got that instead of say the Dirty Tree? Thanks man, and keep the awesome reviews coming, I love the tones you get!!!!!!!

@TONEWARSgearshow 6 ай бұрын

Thank you very much. I'm glad you enjoyed the videos. I think the precision drive would work really well with that amplifier.

@afterstars 3 ай бұрын

Still have my triple recto and nothing makes me happier than that amp.

@dutchyfresh1 Жыл бұрын

I have a dual Rec, and a Dirty Tree. I think it sounds the best when the channel is set to vintage mode with the Dirty Tree engaged. Broots! It’s less harsh, yet still crushing.

@Nik-zc5ro Жыл бұрын

The Master actually has a massive impact in tone. Low settings sound very scooped boomy and fizzy while around noon you get a lot more mids. I prefer something around 12-1 o clock. Also I think the Vintage mode actually sounds more “modern” because it’s way more balanced. Of course modern mode does the “Recto-thing” though. Great demo!

@kaidemen156 Жыл бұрын

I love my Rectifier, I don’t play through it everyday but I’ll never get rid of it.

@deepend69 8 ай бұрын

I have a 97 rev G triple rectifier and I have yet to try an amp that delivers the minerals in a live setting like my amp. Bedroom tone is one thing and a live stage is a whole different ballgame. The rectifier is the undisputed king of hard rock and metal for playing live. Kicks my ass everytime. Good tone never goes out of style.

@martinhensley2377 Жыл бұрын

the dirty tree pedal is what I use on my Triple REC, before I traded it even for a Revv 120 3.

@ronnymilianowicz5228 Жыл бұрын

I have the Dual Multiwatt and Gridslammer, Mudkiller, Fortin 33, maxon 808x and so on. But my fav pedal is actually a Fender Malmsteen overdrive full volume no distorsion before the Gridslammer. Really enjoyed this episode!

@TONEWARSgearshow Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, I'm glad you enjoyed the episode.

@christian_silo Жыл бұрын

do you also have the Mesa Cleo? I'm torn between the two but leaning towards the Cleo.

@ronnymilianowicz5228 Жыл бұрын

@@christian_silo No, whats the difference?

@zombies418 9 ай бұрын

Love my dual rec multi watt

@astrozombie2000 Жыл бұрын

I have 2 DR heads (3ch and MW), while I prefer the MW both sound great with my 3 "go to" pedals: Maxon ST9- Pro +, KHDK Paranormal II, and the Fortin Hexdrive.

@KeithMcKissick Жыл бұрын

I have a Dual Rec Multi-Watt. My favorite settings for CH3 are: Gain 1 O'clock, Treble Noon, Mid Noon, Bass 10 O'clock, Presence 9-10 O'clock. Bold and tube setting on back. I know most people prefer diode for CH3, but I like tube for all three channels. My favorite overdrive for it, is a Maxon OD808.

@m3ssym3ss 8 ай бұрын

yes they are, the 2 high gain channels are the best there are. I ll be buying a dual rectifier as soon as they are available again in europe. i used to have one, sold it, regret it every day.

@nickharper8145 Жыл бұрын

Finally got myself a Rev G Dual Rectifier last year because I wanted to have a chance to mess around and understand it. After some time with it I just didn't care for how the mids sit with it (even with a boost) Great for chugs but not much else. In my last band my other guitarist had a Triple Rec and his notes got lost in the mix a lot all the while my Peavey 5150 was front and center. I don't think they're obsolete I just think they're great for certain things. Traded mine for a PRS Archon 100 and have been much happier.

@J8D2 Жыл бұрын

I recently got a rev G too and honestly, its an incredibly bad sounding amplifier. I wanted so bad to love it but there just isnt enough tightness. Even with an OD its just super midrangey and loose. I ended up running a metal zone into the FX as a substitute for the onboard preamp and it sounds amazing. The gain is so tight and has the perfect frequencies accentuated. Its a pity with these amps, i just feel the pre amp hasnt got enough boost in it naturally and its hard to boost and cut the frequencies you really want. One of the biggest mistakes mesa made was not putting their classic 5 band GEQ onboard. it probably would have negated the need for all of this boosting and modding everybody does to theirs.

@kreepthedestroyer Жыл бұрын

have a triple multi watt with a grid slammer will try cranking the tone thanks for the tip:) Love your work Also have you tried this amp and the Mark V 90w with G12k-100s? I find they work well especially on the Mark V. Be interested in your thoughts

@peevee605 Жыл бұрын

Bad Cat amps has Lynx and it’s badass. As for Mesa, the JP2-C is interesting for my personal reference.

@robspectre1973 Жыл бұрын

Rectifier amps obsolete? Naw dawg. They still nasty

@mattvdh 2 ай бұрын

Ya they still definitely work but require a good boost to get it where it needs to be for modern tones. The thing is that a triple rec is the price of three or four iconics, and you still have to buy a boost and gate for it, where as the iconic is pretty well good to go out of the box (a boost is still good but doesn't need it nearly as much as a saggy Mesa). Mesa cabs are still king though.

@KaddysJamKave Жыл бұрын

1:25 With a camera with these knobs you can't tell what the settings are... proceeds to post a pic that you can't see the darn knobs clearly lol. Sounded pretty good... I prefer several other amps but I'm keeping my Rectifier and sometimes get in the mood for that particular sound. Definitely has it's place.

@TONEWARSgearshow Жыл бұрын

Haha got me there 😆

@jimfischer5670 Жыл бұрын

I took his advice, made a screenshot and enlarged it until I could seen lol

@YTDarren0203 Жыл бұрын

Still have yet to see you try the multiwatt. You're playing on an over 20 year old design with that early three channel. The multiwatt is still in production and the best rectifier imo.

@martinhensley2377 Жыл бұрын

I would use my dirty tree or my Walrus ages 5- state OD pedal, or my Fulltone OCD.

@Epochstudios Жыл бұрын

You absolutely need a Mesa Dual or Triple Rectifier in your collection dood

@juventinos81 7 ай бұрын

If it sounds good then its good.And this sounds good and has its unique sound.

@BillyRiffinDaTube Жыл бұрын

Still the best at the BROOTZ if you know how to dial them in and track em. There is no bigger sound. But like years past, even today they are not for everyone. Whenever a new metal amp comes out they are described as Mesa-like, 6505/5150 like or marshall like. Until that stops, every amp i mentioned is still relevant today. While hyped amps die out, those ones, while not perfect, always remain.

@alexnajarian1860 11 ай бұрын

I use ch2 for rhythm and ch3 for solos. I use modern mode on ch2 and vintage mode on ch3. Vintage mode requires higher tone settings because it has less bass than modern mode. Modern mode is scooped of too much mid to use for solos. The important thing with Recs is to dial out the brittle high frequencies and not to use too much gain. On ch2 (modern mode), I lower the bass and treble compared to my settings on ch3 (vintage mode). With these settings it sounds great. Without the perfect settings, this amp is not good. Dial it in and it’s terrific. I use a Boss SD1 overdrive (output high, gain low, tone moderate).

@Marcus.81 Жыл бұрын

Man people are kind of polarized in the comments. Love or hate them rectos have a particular sound and I thought Jared made the amp sound good. I have an old 2 channel triple rec I got in 1999. I boost it with a gridslammer too and it sounds fine. I have a bunch of other amps too and I still use it. It’s not as versatile as my Jp2c which is my favorite Mesa amp but I still enjoy it and play it pretty regularly. Also I have never had a single issue with the amp and it’s almost 24 years old.

@tj1486 8 ай бұрын

Anyone know if the new multiwatts have a usable effects loop? Curious if it's fully clean too and no tone loss. I've played a roadster and that effects loop chops the top end off of the tone.

@JLP-333 7 ай бұрын

Loop is perfect on the Multiwatt

@burtosu86guitar Жыл бұрын

I have dual rectifier 2000 and you cant dis it, i play it a couple of times a year. Now im with iridium amp1 and new to tonex pedal. Il never sell my dual rectifier and e670 6l6 🤘🤘🤘

@guitarnerd_luke 8 ай бұрын

I own 3 Dual Recs und play them live. So fuck yeah, they are still relevant.

@mathisto21 Ай бұрын

Are Marshall JCMs, Vox AC30s or any of the Fender Reverb series obsolete or irrelevant?

@hessianlonghair Жыл бұрын

Dirty tree is too noisy with the badlander. Mud killler ❤

@hmtp177 Жыл бұрын

Well duh. You got me with the title though.

@s1wheel4 Жыл бұрын

Just me but the Dirty Tree’s frequency when it breaks up is a little harsh on my ears. I maybe be the very best pedal for a TripRec. I liked the GRIDSLAMMER but was good a little fuzzy. Dirty Tree is good but might need a EQ to see if there is any shape you can bring to it. Many factors going on there that I probably never understand. Small issues only. I’m sure it just me and my old tired ears. Mud Killer is good at what it does. Cuts bottom end.

@josephbutler148 Жыл бұрын

Any recto with the right boost like the dirty tree is about as good as it gets for modern metal. On par with any evh amp. The only amps more modern are diezel and engl \m/

@david-no Жыл бұрын

As an owner of a Diezel Herbert MK3 and Hagen. Is a Mesa Dual or Triple Rec worth having or do the Diezels outclass them?

@TONEWARSgearshow Жыл бұрын

What you have is definitely better. If you're going to get a Mesa, get the JP-2C

@david-no Жыл бұрын

@@TONEWARSgearshow 10-4 thanks for response! 🤘

@alexnajarian1860 11 ай бұрын

I have 2 Diezel Herberts and one Triple Rec, in different locations. Diezel is much better but the Rec is fun anyway. I was not looking to buy a Rectifier but I found one in a local pawnshop and I was able to get them down to $675. I couldn’t turn that down. If I were you, I would not go looking for a Rectifier if I have a Diezel Herbert. I was just able to get one super inexpensively.

@david-no 11 ай бұрын

@alexnajarian1860 Yeah, at $675 you're obligated to get it haha. I've somehow made it through life without ever playing a Mesa. Shared the stage with other bands that had them but never actually plugged into one. I never thought about that until I watched this video. Maybe I'll just make it a goal to never play one lmao.

@alexnajarian1860 11 ай бұрын

@@david-no Nothing is better than a Diezel Herbert. With a Rectifier, you really need to spend time dialing it in. You definitely need to use an overdrive pedal to improve the tone. The Herbert needs no such tweaking; such an amazing amp.

@riccardo8676 Жыл бұрын

Must test the multiwatt non the 3 ch!!!

@Tristbag 5 ай бұрын

I think rectifiers are far from being obsolete, nothing off the shelf sounds quite sounds as angry as a rectifier. They don't need a boost to be tight (talking about a multi-watt), it depends how hard you hit and the pickups going into the front end. However you have to play super clean as they are very unforgiving without a boost.

@masterofreality230 Жыл бұрын

Sounds pretty mean and nasty to me, yea, you need a boost, but if you already have one or find a deal on one, its a great sound.

@jimmiethompson3637 Жыл бұрын

Rectifiers are just amazing amps. I think the Dual Rec is a a better amp than the Triple Rec, it just breaks up a little bit better.

@CS-ru4xd Жыл бұрын

Came for the comments!! 😂 lol

@buttholesniffers Жыл бұрын

We all know rectifiers are immortal, same with mark series amps.

@TheJMan1K Жыл бұрын

Plumes OD - 2 channel dual rec - 10 band in the loop with a SD Thrash factor creates the best 6 string tones. Crank up the master around noon and compensate volume with the 10 band is the secret. I run it through a mess 4x12 in my garage but gonna look into a Hesu 2x12 next. I think the demon speakers will give that mix of vintage 30/Greenback combo I want. Something that modern and tight but has the full mess and thickness you want for thrash and other more melodic styles.

@tiagoramalhais5493 Жыл бұрын

I never understood the recto thing, never liked them, always loved the Mark series.

@solidsnakec20 Жыл бұрын

one take = trial by fire lol

@Ill_drink_to_that 7 ай бұрын

Long answer....No, they are not.

@Justin-kn6dp 3 ай бұрын

Nah, they're as awesome as ever. Does the 80s rock/metal tones up to modern metal with ease. Very reliable amps as well, and the clean channels easily beat many other 'clean amps' out there.

@Plextortion Жыл бұрын

Watched this video also and it said it was 1080 but looked like it was 720. Wasn't crisp and clear as usual,,,,,,,,,,,maybe the camera wasn't recording in 1080?

@TONEWARSgearshow Жыл бұрын

Last night I figured out what happened .... there was a glitch in my software and I had to do a deep dive in it to fix it. Hopefully the situation is remedied now

@KeithMcKissick Жыл бұрын

Serious question. Have you had a hearing test, lately? I ask because you dial all of your amps in to be extremely bright and maybe it's because of hearing loss in the highs (that's the first thing to go as we get older). However, the Mesa was dialed in over the top bright. Sounds like a fizzy mess and way too much gain. Also, noticed some clipping in your audio, here and there.

@benburnett8109 Жыл бұрын

Every tone from any Mesa is a fizzy oversaturated mess. Jared's hearing is 20/20 and he is also a really good speller. He does struggle with mathematics but he is still above average. Jarod can cook all his own food and he can safely use most kitchen appliances. He also has s valid drivers license.

@TONEWARSgearshow Жыл бұрын

Interesting comments… last time I had a hearing test, it said my hearing was very good but that was years ago . I honestly don't think my amplifiers sound too bright at all, everybody has their own opinions though If you want to hear bright, watch Leon Todd's channel

@KeithMcKissick Жыл бұрын

@@TONEWARSgearshow That's good to hear. Yeah, we all chase a certain tone in our heads. No right or wrong ways as long as it makes you happy. 👍🏻

@benburnett8109 Жыл бұрын

@@TONEWARSgearshow I told the guy your hearing was a full 100% 20/20. Nobody hates Mesa more than I do; but the tones you got today were great. Granted, they would be much better coming from A TRUE source like a Helix; but they were good enough for most grunge, alt nu metal, nu alt metal, and "alternate light metal not quite but almost metal" bands out there today. I also pointed out that you are good at spelling and you have a valid drivers license. So i Really have no idea what that guy's problem is. I could see his point if you didn't have a DL, but you do. So who knows what kinda cra cra that guy is.

@ronnymilianowicz5228 Жыл бұрын

@@TONEWARSgearshow ha ha amen to that!

@joeydego2 Жыл бұрын

Not any more than a plexi is. How about a Stradivarius?

@ciggs5649 Жыл бұрын

No such thing as old and modern sounding amps. If it sounds good in the mix, it doesn't matter what amp or brand or production year. I have seen people play blues on a 5150 and modern metal on a 2203.

@TheCyberMantis Жыл бұрын

I think all tube amps are obsolete. Except in the recording studio.

@samizdat113 Жыл бұрын

Why would it not be relevant?

@Dobis86 Жыл бұрын

Just click bait lol

@colelewis9940 Жыл бұрын

Would make more sense if you made the title Mesa Rectifier amps And not "mesa dual recs" considering you're playing a triple rectifier not a dual rectifier

@TONEWARSgearshow Жыл бұрын

Fixed it. Thanks

@colelewis9940 Жыл бұрын

@@TONEWARSgearshow I'm just a little OCD and notice these things haha

@CS-ru4xd Жыл бұрын

@@TONEWARSgearshow BUSTED!!!! 😆lol

@justincider4375 6 ай бұрын

These amps are completely irrelevant now. If you need to make some room on your amp wall I'll do you a favour and take it off your hands for you.

@benburnett8109 Жыл бұрын

Mesa has not been relevant since 1991. That is the last time a decent tone was achieved using a Mesa product. Mesa amps should be illegal in all 50 states.

@Dobis86 Жыл бұрын

Cope. It is the staple of 90s-early 00s metal

@benburnett8109 Жыл бұрын

@@Dobis86 If I were President, I would DESTROY every Mesa amp out there. I would make it illegal to own, possess or use one. Then I would strike all the bands down that used the Mesa as their source of guitar tone. Only Metallica would get an exemption because they mixed the "mesa" out of the tone. I would gather all the Mesa owners together and make them pour gasoline on the giant pile of seized amps and then I would make John Petrucci strike the match and burn the pile to the ground. Employees of Mesa Boogie would be relocated to Pakistan or given an option to work in rock crushing camps in the USA. Any Dealer that sold more than 25 amps in a fiscal year would have to pay an extra 25,000 in taxes every year for the next 10 years. And that money would be used to rehabilitate FORMER mesa amp users. Any Mesa owner not willing to work with these terms would be forced to play Gorilla combo amps at the food court of the Mall. Bottom line: I will never understand how Mesa got this far in the World. It is my mission to destroy them if the new Owners (GIBSON) dont do it first.

@benburnett8109 Жыл бұрын

@christian_silo Жыл бұрын

weird, it's not opposite day...