Are Oiled or Oilless Shop Compressors Better?

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DirtFarmerJay

DirtFarmerJay

6 ай бұрын

Which is better - oiled or oilless shop or worksite air compressors? You can get either readily, but which type is the best investment?
#compressors #oillesscompressors #singlestagecompressor
You can buy both oilless and oil-lubricated compressors for the worksite and shop. I’ve had an oilless unit for over 5 years and recently replaced it with an oiled version after weighing the price point and life of the equipment.
Oilless units use plastic and low-friction coatings to reduce friction and association wear on moving parts. They tend to run at higher speeds, directly off the motor shaft. They are entirely dependent on air movement for cooling. Because the components that form the air pump on an oilless unit are not entirely encased in the pump, they typically generate more sound (noise) when they are running than an oil-lubricated unit will.
The larger the unit for average shop applications, the more likely the compressor will have an oil-lubricated air pump. That’s fine with me!
I like the fact that I can change the oil as needed, that the pump runs at a lower RPM, is quieter and lower-pitched than an oilless unit, the pump is more durable and runs at lower operating temperatures than its oilless counterpart.
Why the lower operating temperature? There are 3 reasons:
Lower RPM. There is a small pulley on the motor shaft and a large combo pulley fan on the air pump shaft. Because the piston or pistons that create air pressure are usually larger than on oilless units, a large amount of air is pressurized in a short time. High RPMs are not needed to get the same results.
Larger Cooling Fan. As mentioned, the air pump pulley is also a sizable air fan that moves a significant amount of air across the heat dissipation fins of the air pump. Lower temps mean longer life. It’s as simple as that.
The oil does a better job of lubrication AND acts as a coolant. Non-detergent compressor oil is very efficient in keeping all the operating surfaces inside the air pump coated and will not as readily mix with water as detergent oil will. Efficient lubrication reduces friction - so less heat. That’s not all though. The oil itself, as it moves around the air pump’s oil sump, cylinder walls, crankshaft, piston connecting arms, etc., also acts as a coolant and transports heat away from the pump’s “hot spots” and dissipates it to cooler areas in the pump.
Overall, the oiled unit is heavier construction, including a cast-iron air pump case and better motor. Our compressor will be set up as a stationary unit, and we are enhancing the unit further by installing a higher capacity air filter, a valved drain line for the air pump oil (to make oil changes easier and cleaner), and an air tank drain valve extension to make it ultra-easy to drain condensate out of the air tank every few days of operation.
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With all that the oiled compressors have going for them, they are my first choice for our shop compressor.
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@DKWalser
@DKWalser 6 ай бұрын
I respectfully disagree. Ten years ago, I would have agreed. Oilless compressors have come a long way since then. California Air Tools has proven oilless compressors can rival oiled compressors in durability, while being much quieter than oiled compressors. They're not the only company selling this newer technology oilless, they're just the first I was aware of. The twin piston DeWalt compressor shown in the video is nice. It has a lot of CFM (6.2 @ 90 psi) for a 2 hp compressor. If I needed that much CFM, I might have gone with it (or one of its clones). The compessor I went with provides enough air (5.1 CFM @ 90 psi) for the tools I regularly use, pneumatic nailers, die grinders, and a couple of small sanders. It has a smaller tank, 27 gallons. However, its rated at 200 psi, so it holds more air than the DeWalt. My compressor provides a lot more creature comforts than the DeWalt. It has two air outlets, a full roll cage protecting all sides of the motor and pump. It's regulator is mounted so it's adjustment knob and dial are easy to reach and read. It's drain valve is mounted at the front of the tank. I can easily open and close the valve with the toe of my shoe. Finally, and most important to me, it only produces 78 dba. That's still loud, but not nearly as loud as the DeWalt. In terms of durability, I burned out two oiled 10 gallon hot-dog style compressors. Each lasted about 5 years, with annual oil changes. But, they were cheap compressors. My point is NOT that oiled compressors don't last. It is that cheap compressors -- oiled or oiless -- don't last.
@DirtFarmerJay
@DirtFarmerJay 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the thought provoking comments. Well said. I appreciate the insights, and don't be surprised if we do another episode along the line of "Viewers Sound Off!" on this topic. I enjoy this aspect of the KZfaq platform - good interactions with viewers. The best to you and yours. - DFJ
@rickseyeview5345
@rickseyeview5345 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Jay! Very informative!
@DirtFarmerJay
@DirtFarmerJay 6 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@audiophileman7047
@audiophileman7047 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for covering this information, Jay. It's much appreciated. 👍👍👍
@DirtFarmerJay
@DirtFarmerJay 6 ай бұрын
No problem 👍
@audiophileman7047
@audiophileman7047 6 ай бұрын
Happy New Year to you, Jay, and may 2024 bring some good things to you and your family.😊 @@DirtFarmerJay
@Skewb19
@Skewb19 6 ай бұрын
I have used an oiled for about 13 years now and have had no problems and love it
@DirtFarmerJay
@DirtFarmerJay 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for letting us know!
@omarkhan9966
@omarkhan9966 6 ай бұрын
I have oil compressors that I have owned for over 30 years. Still going strong. If you're doing any kind of serious work get an oiled unit.
@DirtFarmerJay
@DirtFarmerJay 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for weighing in. I share your opinion. Best, DFJ
@24hourgmtchannel64
@24hourgmtchannel64 3 ай бұрын
26 years on my Craftsman 919.165230 25 gallon oilless air compressor without a issue and use it a lot. The sound is of course louder than an oiled but dont kid yourself. Both are still loud. The oilless you compare here is missing the shroud cover which will reduce noise slightly.
@DirtFarmerJay
@DirtFarmerJay 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for jumping in and letting us all know of your experience. I appreciate you taking time to write. Best, DFJ
@Just-Steve
@Just-Steve 9 күн бұрын
I think sound intensity reduction is a big plus, especially in the higher frequencies. Remember sound intensity (measured in decibels) is a logarithmic scale. Each additional dB is a doubling of sound intensity. 10 dB is 10 times the sound, 20 dB is 100 times and so on... thats why a normal conversation can be 30-60 dB and a jet aircraft (which can/will hurt you) is 120+ dB.
@DirtFarmerJay
@DirtFarmerJay 8 күн бұрын
Very clear explanation - Thanks!
@slimwantedman6694
@slimwantedman6694 6 ай бұрын
Good morning from Southeast South Dakota. I prefer oil cooled
@DirtFarmerJay
@DirtFarmerJay 6 ай бұрын
Same here!
@denrayr
@denrayr 6 ай бұрын
10db level change equates to being twice as loud. You measured a 10-15db difference, so the new unit is more than half as quiet. That DeWalt unit looks like a pretty nice compressor!
@DirtFarmerJay
@DirtFarmerJay 6 ай бұрын
Great insights! We plan to do another episode covering this very topic. I'm researching it now so that I get it absolutely right and that it is an authoritative episode. Thanks for the nudge! Indeed, we think the compressor is quite nice and we plan to take good care of it. Best, DFJ
@Just-Steve
@Just-Steve 9 күн бұрын
You're half right, you're referring to perceived sound or the Weber Fechner Law. Decibels are a logarithmic scale. Each Decibel is a doubling of sound. Meaning 10 dB increase is 10 times louder, 20 dB is 100 times and so on... intensity is what ruins your hearing and destroys your eardrums.
@happycat0411
@happycat0411 4 ай бұрын
If you plan to use or depend on the your air compressor 24/7 then an oiled air compressor is by far the best choice. Framers and contractors use oiled air compressors all year b/c they require something that is both rugged and will take a beating in any weather...
@DirtFarmerJay
@DirtFarmerJay 4 ай бұрын
Well said.
@Rendon_Glee_Guy
@Rendon_Glee_Guy 9 күн бұрын
Those intakes are too small to do any good, I hear the Solberg intakes make them more quiet and fill up the tank faster.
@DirtFarmerJay
@DirtFarmerJay 9 күн бұрын
Thanks for jumping in!
@gillgetter3004
@gillgetter3004 6 ай бұрын
Brand new oil cooled, wore out oil less?
@DirtFarmerJay
@DirtFarmerJay 6 ай бұрын
Indeed. Oilless unit we had just wasn't that well built. Best, DFJ
@Aonexia
@Aonexia 4 ай бұрын
​@@DirtFarmerJay"Well built..." is key here. A good oilless machine will last equally, or even longer than oiled compressors. We have good data now from around the globe.
@Tater4200
@Tater4200 6 ай бұрын
Btw. Oiled compressors are so much easier and better to rebuild. Just some new rings. New reeds. And your good to go
@DirtFarmerJay
@DirtFarmerJay 6 ай бұрын
Good to know!
@Tater4200
@Tater4200 6 ай бұрын
Ill tell ya what...i bought a new kobalt oiless compressor and i cant STAND the loud ass thing... i just finished combining 2 Ingersoll 20 gallons to make me a twin cylinder OILED 1hp 40 gallon compressor.. and i like it much better lol
@DirtFarmerJay
@DirtFarmerJay 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for letting us know. Wow, I'd like to see your new rig. Send me a picture at jay@dirtfarmerjay.com, will you? Best, DFJ
@nickdavis4839
@nickdavis4839 Ай бұрын
Is your Kobalt by chance the “Kobalt QUIET TECH 26-Gallons Portable 150 Psi Vertical Quiet Air Compressor?” Or do you have a different oiless model? I’m looking for a new air compressor.
@frankneher9192
@frankneher9192 6 ай бұрын
Oilless compressors don't last long for me I've gone back to oil compressors.
@DirtFarmerJay
@DirtFarmerJay 6 ай бұрын
I'm just more comfortable with a tried and method of lubrication - and the oil acts as a coolant as well. So, the unit runs cooler. Heat is the enemy of equipment so heat reduction is good! Best, DFJ
@ot9180
@ot9180 6 ай бұрын
Don’t like it. What matters is the air they can push through. By the way, where are you dumping the dirty oil. Not to your front lawn, anywhere close to your house. Say no?
@DirtFarmerJay
@DirtFarmerJay 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. We are doing to do a follow up on this episode that covers additional areas, such as air volume, SCFM and CFM, single and 2-stage and so forth. Thanks for the nudge. As for the oil, we have quite a few pieces of yard equipment that uses oil and we have a waste oil collection container all that used oil goes into. It is then taken to the waste collection station for safe collection. No dumping around here! Best, DFJ
@audiophileman7047
@audiophileman7047 6 ай бұрын
You're a wise man to not dump oil on your property, Jay, and it's a recyclable resource. 👍👍👍 @@DirtFarmerJay
@a.c.m.e.ink.4568
@a.c.m.e.ink.4568 5 ай бұрын
Oil comes out of the ground, Greta !!
@a.c.m.e.ink.4568
@a.c.m.e.ink.4568 5 ай бұрын
I made the mistake, of buying a Harbor Freight. 21 gallons, 175 psi oil-less unit. It died in less than 2 years time. With very little use. ☹
@DirtFarmerJay
@DirtFarmerJay 5 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear. What did you replace it with?
@a.c.m.e.ink.4568
@a.c.m.e.ink.4568 5 ай бұрын
@@DirtFarmerJayI haven't done so yet. Everything is so expensive. I'll probably repurpose the tank. I have no intention of fixing the compressor. But the next one, with be an oil sump system.
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