I love the idea of portals. Love the ground clearance. Love the capabilities it gives. But for 25k you can get pro rock 80’s and an xd60 built for less “or the same money” and have a way stronger setup. I mean really Dana 60/80 vs stock axles “and all their weaknesses” and still spend the same money. If they were 10-15k I think they would be a great option but for their price it’s just not worth it

I like that 74 Weld took their time developing these.. Id love to have portals under our Bronco

The portal's looked cool until I saw the price. 25K for the portals alone. I didn't think aluminum should be that hard to manufacture. This mod will not be going on my 1999 TJ, but it is cool to see what is out there.

If we get the price of those portal axles to come down, they be more affordable for people, but I do get why these are so expensive. You don’t have to do any of that extra suspension. Or re-years

$25k and staying on the stock axle shafts and ring and pinion doesnt make enough sense for me. I love the concept and clearances tho. Im curious what the margins are for 74 weld on those units

I love my portals and fully independent suspension. They came stock on my 1972 Pinz Gauer 710 M. Kinda noisy and a bit slow but still roadworthy.

I get people are concerned about the stock axles but people forget it’s 22% less stress on the shafts and RP. People run 40s on the JL 44s somewhat reliably, and the 22% strength increase may be enough to make it a pretty strong setup actually. Time will tell with these builds. I do think that the price is too high as does everyone, but I really think they are just breaking into the market and have a good opportunity for some decent volume. I know they are proud of their billet, but it just drives the cost up so much due to the heavy machining. I think if they cast these (maybe steel at that point) to bring the price down to 10-15k, it will really take over the market. But maybe they just want to stay billet and only cater to the high end and racing market, that’s their choice.

I need to play the lottery to afford this cool stuff.

Thx for the video! I just cringe when people spend 20k+ for Portals Only and Still have stock axles and suspension travel etc with MORE LEVERAGE against the factory inner-C's that are not that strong imho when a person goes past 37s...Id recommend they put those Portals on a aftermarket axle assembly like a D60 etc...Dont you think?

Brilliant!! This is awesome! We done y’all!!!

Imagine you do portals and overhaul the suspension and tires. Mort unstoppable vehicle ever

I don’t own a jeep or live in America but ever since I’ve seen portals I’ve wanted some on my little Suzuki jimny for the extra ground clearance and possible central tyre inflation like the hummer but sadly no one seems to make things like this for a jimny or for an affordable price but I love the look and work great job

Glad your customers have deep pockets so we can see cool stuff like this

Hell for the cost of those portals you can go buy another whole jeep. The price is ridiculous and completely out of the price range for your average jeeper

Should be great to combine both concepts I think,got the flex of the double throwdowns and diff clearence of the portals

This is a pretty cool solution. It seems to be catching on in racing with the top teams.

Love watching these videos but have no freaking clue what these things are. Definitely coming to you guys when i get my jeep

Video pretty well illustrated who is the target market for these. People with money to burn and a pavement pounding jeep money pit where they're worried about gear whine and not the actual use of the added ground clearance. Between these 2 jeeps, the one with aftermarket suspension is going to handle much better in all situations and have much better suspension flex. This means its going to be better on and off road. The rare situation where the portal jeep may be getting some benefit the aftermarket suspension jeep will likely be able to make up that difference with better flex. Stock jeep with 40s vs a stock jeep with portals and 40s would be a good comparison. Over 20k additional expense and only 3.5" clearance to show for it. I think 99.9% of drivers would take the 40s + $20k cash in their pocket. Also, super high cost aside, you did not actually address the likely scenarios where portals would benefit you. They may be occasionally beneficial while rock crawling, but suspension flex more important in most rock crawling situations. Deep snow and mud is where its all about axle clearance is where portals really shine. If you're running 40s and frequently find yourself stuck in mud or snow, going up to 44"+ tires isn't an option, and you have $20k to blow then portals are right for you.

Awesome Comparison...🤩🤩

Ill take the axel swap and suspension lit plus the portal axels... best of both worlds. Go big or go home.

🍻Very cool, and nice to see you're not speed limited like many vehicles with portals. I am curious how much power you lose running them? Any idea?

So my take away from this is that I can do this myself. DIY!

While I like the idea of portals , to gain 3 inches would be incredible in rock crawling situations but unless you are doing that , its a lot of money to front for a 3 inch increase. The other aspect is you have 3 gears and multiple extra moving parts inside each of the portals. This is a lot of parts that at any point can fail , and if they do , it will destroy the parts not failing at that moment which makes for a very expensive repair. Good idea , yeah , but very expensive. It is a very niche thing that only rock crawlers would pay that kind of money for.

These are reallly cool they have been around on rc cars for a while now too

To get an additional 3 inches clearance under the differentials with straight axles would require increasing tire diameter by 6 inches which would require regearing both differentials, replacing shocks, modifying the steering linkage, tires & wheels, suspension and body lift and, honestly, I would want a rather massive brake upgrade to compensate for the reduced leverage the brakes will suffer, as well. None of that will be cheap and the total is unknown to me but I have priced new Dana-60 axles without any special upgrades to them at nearly $10K each, plus shipping or travel expense. Now add all that other stuff and I'm surely we're talking in the mid 30s, start to finish. Or, I could buy the portals and install them or have it done. I don't even need new tires to get that 3" clearance increase for $25K. It appears that I'll save about $10K and a lot of shop time by going with the portals. It's still twice what I paid for my first Jeep, brand new, but is significantly less that the other.

Would they be able to make the portals with CTIS? That would be a wonderful addition.

So great review, but you missed one point in my opinion. What are the cost factors between the two builds. Not all of the other stuff like bumpers and stuff, but what is the complete cost of a portal build vs the axle build (which I assume would probably include complete lift kit, shocks and other essential elements. What is the true cost comparison?

Great... now I want a 2 door Rubicon JL with portals and 37s

These will move the weak link to the already failure-prone stock inner C's, ball joints, and FAD housing. If you have the coin for these I'd really recommend an aftermarket axle housing in the front at least.

So would the portals and the double throw down compliment one another? Have the F9, portals and the King suspension would be super cool.

Its crazy how far manufacturing has come over the last 20-25 years.

As an ortho surgeon, I gotta know who commissioned this? Lmao.

Can ya'll add the portals to that radical build? Will they mount to the Currie F9's?

I'm thinking 🤔 by the time you get the portals tweeked and running good you could probably afford to go with Mrap axcels and a suspension upgrade for close to the same if you can find the right junkyard!!!!

3 1/2” is MASSIVE!

the 74 weld look so nice but it cost half a regular rubicon. for that price, you can do a full build for most wrangler.

And I am betting wheel bearing live way longer on the portal setup !!! 🥰 😋

When comparing cost of the two jeeps granted the non portal jeep like you said can handle more abuse but the dollar to fun ratio has to go to the portal equipped jeep the suspension alone is about $14k then the axles are around $19k but the portals are $20k to me the portals are the way to go

But can you do a double throwdown with portals?

Are there any full axle replacement portals? Portals are so cool, but im just wondering if theres an option that gets you the ground clearance but not necessarily setting you up for giant tires and really wide track.

gotta love the Geep Wagon :)

What I would ask is, can you give the breakdown in cost comparison?...Lift cost + Extended Labor vs Portals + Lesser labor...to my mind the end cost of making a decision to go portals or not, is in the gap between the two....

Would be nice to know the cost of each build. Just the suspension & drive train modifications to each.

I thought the extreme recon‘s came with 35s…. Or are they KO2s so 35s that should be somewhere in the 34 range are actually 32s?

What’s that thing on top of the Bone Wagon’? A tent? Great video. Impressive side-by-side.

That JEEP Bone Wagon is awesome. How did Stryker, DePuy and Zimmer collaborate on this one?

Fluid change intervals (portals) plz. Thanks

What happens when you f9 and portal the jeep?

clearance is great but that stock axle ain’t gonna hold up like a pro rock 60/80 will, which is in the same ballpark price wise

Well they better start designing for 2011 QX56 and up. Cause those are way better than spacers or aftermarket rims

Bone Wagon is one hell of a tax deduction 😂😂

That portal setup is absolutely amazing, but not for $25K 👎🏿👎🏿👎🏿

You need to have a price breakdown video

How would Portals match with the Gladiator Mojave suspension for high speed desert running?

I'll stick with my '06 Wrangler with 2" of body lift and 35" tires. Those are the only mods I have made to my rig, and it didn't cost more than I bought the car for.

All that extra stress on the links and rod ends from axle wrap makes me nervous. I would need to upgrade all the links to thicker cromo or DOM and switch to bigger stronger rod ends.

Thought you might all about pricing! Would like to know

Do these portals cause cancer or come with a prop warning?

The traditional build FTW! Do they make portals for the F9s? 😎 😂

What about combining the two different types of lifts?

What he doesn't go into is you don't want to daily drive portals. They increase you fuel mileage drastically. They increase your cruise rpms drastically. They add a lot of wear and tear to the vehicle from running so hard at higher speeds. This is a great way to lower your gearing for rock crawling and offroading. It's similar to running a doubler transfer case. The only difference being that you can put a transfer case in neutral... the gearing on these is permanent.

Got that chipped window already.

Should do a flex comparison i am interested in that difference

Im sold. If i get a Wrangler or gladiator, this is what ill do!

And what’s that basket on the back tire? Looks great.

Will this cause extra stresses and leverage on the upper and lower control arms and bushings?

i know you guy are jeep dudes but they got anything for the Toyota LC200 land cruiser? The portals and the full time all wheel drive with a set of kings 3.0 sounds sick, right?

It would really be awesome if you guys could make qute little portals for subaru outback I volunteer mine to be the guinea pig.

Is California still in the United States? Just wondering 🤔

After initial break in of the gears, do you use a friction modifier in the portals oil? How often is it required to change the oil in the portals?

What is the cost comparison? The portals are $25k but what about the other set up?

I need this for my Ram 1500 Rebel

Roll the windows down 😂

What about portal on the F9 with the double throw down Evo suspension?

Ive been saying portals for years. Hopefully they gain traction like they are in Australia

You Americans with your 4bs, come over to Aus, nothing but a good ole time.

So why couldn’t you upgrade the suspension on the Portal Jeep?

I thought portal axles were what the hummv and 60s military 6x6 trucks have

I would think the tires were drowned out any gear noise

I have portals on my traxxas high trail

Ya, but what's the cost difference between the 2 the portals are around 15 what's the cost of everything you would have to do with a lift rout

Very nice but price is ridiculous.

What's the cost difference between the two. I likked up 74weld and it's about 25k for that kit.

Were those wheels custom for the portals I don’t see them in their website with +25 offset. And there is no rubbing?

Bumper? Can anyone tell me what the bumper is on the Trauma? Looking to swap out my plastic factory bumper for a stubby with a winch. Thanks

love those portals but I vote no for 40s on dana 44 haha

All XR’s come with 35’s. It’s literally a part of the package.

Portals and the lift?

i think id buy a 2nd used wrangler for 20k lmao

does tire pressure and ambient temperature matter when measuring Ground to Differential height?

Your arm tattoo is so original, looks like, every other arm tattoo I’ve ever seen

It seems that cost is comparable between a good lift and portals.

Can you review the werewolf portals?

and how much do those portals cost? just the parts?

Since when did the XR package come with 32 inch tires the standard Rubicon come with approximately almost 33s which are not truly measured to 33s so 32 would be correct however the XR come with 35s which should still give you a measurement of 34 inches and some change so how are you stating that, they had 32 inch factory tires when you stated that both of them are the XR packages

Can you fit this on a Wrangler Sport, of yes would you have to regear.

I have no idea what "portals" are. Would have been good to have a little explanation in the description. Obviously your target audience knows what they are... random "car people" on the internet... not so much! Liked the content!

20k!!!!!

What's the cost difference?

Installing these in a non trussed axle housing seems like a bad idea. I see those axles bent on the trail with just larger tires and weight added to the frame side.