Are Satellite Shifters the Future of Mountain Biking?

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11 ай бұрын

Satellite shifters are an accessory for the Archer Components D1-X. These are buttons you can put anywhere to shift your gears, and the D1-X can be installed on any derailleur and cassette combination imaginable, with a programmable servo.
Today we're going to test these satellite shifters in a few odd locations for fun, however they are in fact being used already to help riders with special needs.
The other day I rode with @GoCatalystSportsorg who helps adaptive athletes go mountain biking (among many other things). Although the people and bikes that were present that day had mainly mechanical shifters, these satellite shifters are being used on adaptive bikes all over, as they can be placed literally anywhere.
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@BermPeakExpress
@BermPeakExpress 11 ай бұрын
Thanks again to Catalyst Sports! The footage in the video was from a ride I did with them the other week, and I'd say no two of the bikes there were set up the same. Although they managed to have everything working with what looked like mechanical shifting, other options are always welcome.
@mikek9297
@mikek9297 11 ай бұрын
When thumb goes over bars - I believe it's called "monkey grip" and it's used in different sports disciplines like calisthenics, gymnastics or wrestling for different applications. Depending on what you're doing it may be stronger or more stable than the opposite thumb grip.
@yncr18
@yncr18 11 ай бұрын
Any chance this is compatible with sram shifters? I have electronic rival and don't want to pay $100 for disposable buttons!
@russellzauner
@russellzauner 11 ай бұрын
Lots of people are driving cars that they don't realize have completely electrically controlled brakes with no actual mechanical linkage between the master cylinder and their foot. So yeah this seems super normal to me, and obvious in hindsight (like the ankle shifters).
@Parkratmtb
@Parkratmtb 11 ай бұрын
Put them on the top tube/downtube and try shifting with your knees
@Ryzza5
@Ryzza5 11 ай бұрын
It looked like they connect via a 3.5mm plug. If you got a Y splitter audio cable would that let you pair up 2 sets of buttons in different locations?
@StofDong
@StofDong 11 ай бұрын
Imagine crashing headfirst and the bike's just shifting like crazy
@RealMTBAddict
@RealMTBAddict 11 ай бұрын
I'd rather not
@StofDong
@StofDong 11 ай бұрын
@@RealMTBAddict in that case, imagine putting she shifters in your shoes and shifting with your toes
@TheShredShedMTB
@TheShredShedMTB 11 ай бұрын
😂😂
@Vazzdom
@Vazzdom 11 ай бұрын
Lmao this gotta be the best comment 😂
@RealMTBAddict
@RealMTBAddict 11 ай бұрын
@@StofDong no
@ErvahNoir
@ErvahNoir 11 ай бұрын
100% saw the thumbnail and thought "that's kinda dumb" but clicked out of curiosity. Immediately when you showed how adaptive cyclists can use this tech it swayed me to the other side. This is amazing! I've never thought about how we could make cycling this much easier by something so simple
@AmogusSusAmongusSussyBakaAmogg
@AmogusSusAmongusSussyBakaAmogg 11 ай бұрын
Me looking at the thumbnail thought this was some Elon musk starlink thing.
@TheEpicLinkFreeman
@TheEpicLinkFreeman 11 ай бұрын
my first instinct was "... is it actually *supposed* to go on your helmet? why?"
@HITthegymwithjkhman
@HITthegymwithjkhman 11 ай бұрын
and I thought to myself why would anybody ever put that on your helmet in the first place lol
@samphillips4925
@samphillips4925 11 ай бұрын
Id like to see Seth do a video on adaptive biking. The engineering on those machines is getting really sophisticated.
@noneofyourbusiness4294
@noneofyourbusiness4294 10 ай бұрын
When I worked in a smaller workshop, we had someone with contergan damage come in, he wanted to buy an ebike adjusted exactly for his needs, other shops had told him there's nothing they could do for him. Boss made two of us part of the planning with the customer, and it was a long ass process. But we got there eventually. One of the manufacturers we worked with only builds bikes on order. So you can customize just about everything on the bike as it was, and they severely dropped the price after learning what we were going for, so we could spend more on necessary modifications. It all went down during peak corona, so delivery times were absolutely awful, but we kept the guy up to date. Bike arrived, he came to check it out, any parts arrived, we'd notify him and he asked if he could come in to watch the process. Sure, we had to follow corona guidelines, so those were the days we wore masks in the workshop, but it was all worth it in the end. Never have I seen a customer as happy as him, when the bike was completely done. And there's a sincere "fuck you" for the shops who said they couldn't help. Everything we added to the bike, except for the display holder were items we could just order from suppliers. And even the display holder was just a modified version of Bosch's Kiox mount. Total work hours were like 10 or so, spread over a couple of weeks due to things not being in stock. So absolutely doable
@Electric_Devil
@Electric_Devil 10 ай бұрын
That escalated quickly.
@leokerz
@leokerz 11 ай бұрын
Accessibility is so important, I love to see a product that gives people of different abilities freedom to cycle. Awesome.
@The_k81
@The_k81 11 ай бұрын
Anytime something is made more accessible for a few, it ends up benefitting everybody as a result. Accessibility is rad
@sampreece
@sampreece 11 ай бұрын
Acessibility to who?
@drstrange9627
@drstrange9627 11 ай бұрын
If u need to shift gears by touching your head due to a disability, you don’t need to be riding a bike, much less own that has gears.
@JeremyLawrence-imajez
@JeremyLawrence-imajez 11 ай бұрын
@@drstrange9627 Well done on displaying how little you know about why things need to be made accessible for a variety of abilities. Not to mention that's a really callous thing to say.
@The_k81
@The_k81 11 ай бұрын
@@drstrange9627 why don't you watch the video before you make ignorant comments about what this tech could do for people with disabilities?
@colin2718
@colin2718 11 ай бұрын
You should equip two bikes with these remote shifters, but trade the controller between each rider. Would be entertaining to see how well you can ride if somebody else is controlling the shifts
@CNYKnifeNut
@CNYKnifeNut 11 ай бұрын
Didn't some annoyingly positive/saccharine BMX KZfaqr do basically that, but with brakes?
@3d1m4nd3r
@3d1m4nd3r 11 ай бұрын
This sounds like a very dangerous game. I prefer to be responsible for my health and life myself;. I don't let my wife hold the wheel on the highway either.
@flyingskier1913
@flyingskier1913 11 ай бұрын
Dustin Klein did this on road bikes!
@colin2718
@colin2718 11 ай бұрын
@@flyingskier1913 Had no idea. Do you have a link?
@that_which_is_not
@that_which_is_not 11 ай бұрын
Blip/Satellite shifters, currently sprinters in road cycling that finish races in the drops of the handlebar have them in a place where they can shift while sprinting in that position. On top of having their normal shift levers. Amazing possibilities
@kerrermanisNL
@kerrermanisNL 11 ай бұрын
Damn that actually sounds friggin' nice. I hate having to shift my hand/fingers when in the sprint position
@rob-c.
@rob-c. 11 ай бұрын
As a road rider who has known about satellite shifters for years, this video blew my mind - I had no idea it hadn’t entered the MTB side at all 🤷‍♂️
@Alchas65
@Alchas65 11 ай бұрын
@@rob-c. I'd imagine that Sram blips would be compatible with their wireless MTB groupsets, don't see any reason why they wouldn't.
@Calfa2x
@Calfa2x 11 ай бұрын
@@Alchas65 They are, a lot of people run them like that, they even used to control their dropper by clicking both at the same time.
@skatetheglobe
@skatetheglobe 11 ай бұрын
So happy to see a glimpse of AMTB on your channel. I would really love to see an episode on the accessibility of Berm Park. As an AMTB rider, it's difficult to find trails that are accessible. Most of our bikes are pretty capable unless the trail is off camber lol
@BermPeakExpress
@BermPeakExpress 11 ай бұрын
Although I have never tested it for myself, I'd say that Berm Park is mostly AMTB accessible, and I do plan on doing some content of that type!
@skatetheglobe
@skatetheglobe 11 ай бұрын
@@BermPeakExpress That's awesome! I'm looking forward to that.
@REVMuscleCars
@REVMuscleCars 11 ай бұрын
@@BermPeakExpress Let's do this! 🙌
@gizmobytes
@gizmobytes 11 ай бұрын
As a handcyclist, I had an Archer system and was really impressed. I shifted with my chin but there are now lots of Archer button options to consider. This video prompts "thinking outside the box" which is often so important in adaptive cycling.
@Hoodsense
@Hoodsense 11 ай бұрын
The thumbless grip is sometimes used in weightlifting too, known as the "suicide grip" since any slip of your grip means a bar the the face/chest if you're benching. I'm sure it's not going to be much safer when the risk is going headfirst into your handlebars
@seanm5058
@seanm5058 11 ай бұрын
I used to ride with the "thumb over the bars" grip too because I kept getting blisters on my thumbs back when I had grip shifters. Got super used to it but later on as I progressed I started slipping off the bars occasionally and luckily, I avoided serious crashes, but it definitely could've been bad.
@helvettefaensatan
@helvettefaensatan 11 ай бұрын
As a roadie, I can recommend putting thumbs over. It tucks in your elbows (aero) and relaxes your shoulders (comfort), especially on longer rides. For climbing and predictable terrain it's great.
@nathanvanderpool1175
@nathanvanderpool1175 11 ай бұрын
I very much recommend against doing that type of grip. It can he very dangerous and should never be done unless you absolutely have to.
@lennygermany1507
@lennygermany1507 11 ай бұрын
Well I'll be darned , I didn't know I was " unnormal" , on uphills and level tracks , I have my thumb's over the bar too , does relax the muscles a lot ,
@seanm5058
@seanm5058 11 ай бұрын
@Nathan Vanderpool yeah I adapted to a normal grip over time after having too many close calls. It's not safe in terrain that's even somewhat bumpy
@timtuckercom
@timtuckercom 11 ай бұрын
@@timothyhoekstra2604 Togs are great
@queentakesrook
@queentakesrook 11 ай бұрын
thanks for talking about something that makes cycling more accessible! would love to see more mainstream channels talking about cool ways to get more people into biking
@JB50713
@JB50713 11 ай бұрын
I've been using an Archer D1x for almost two years now. Using their one piece shifter though. It's a pretty great option for wireless shifting without having to purchase another derailleur. Seth, you should have the shifter on the downside of the chain stay to limit its exposure in a bump or crash.
@BermPeakExpress
@BermPeakExpress 11 ай бұрын
I tried so hard to put it on the bottom of the chainstay, but that Kent Trouvaille is shaped so weird! I even cut off one of the little brake housing cups to make it work, but no go.
@Jason-cl6ie
@Jason-cl6ie 11 ай бұрын
I often ride with my thumbs up like that when going uphill. I've found that its a little more comfortable and I dont get the numb fingers thing that a lot of people get from baring weight on the handlebar for a while. Definitely a full grip on the downs, though.
@SkylarsTerribleMemes
@SkylarsTerribleMemes 11 ай бұрын
accessibility is poggers! this would also be cool for people like me who have ebikes with a ton of stuff on the handlebars, just having a few buttons would free up a ton of space
@johnles9689
@johnles9689 11 ай бұрын
Seth thanks for making this video. It is great to see options for those with limitations. I was in a motorcycle accident that made me partially paralyzed on my right side. I have found i can cycle with all the controls on the left side of my handlebar.
@PlusSizedCyclist
@PlusSizedCyclist 11 ай бұрын
I have been riding the Archer D1x Gen 2 on my gravel bike for a couple months and LOVE the quad button satellite shift setup.
@JasonZais
@JasonZais 11 ай бұрын
Having gotten into mountain biking biking at the end of the 90’s, I was all about bar ends. Shia no came out with a remote shifter for your right bar end on XTR, and maybe XT… that was the dream. Then Rapid rise happened. Aaaaaand we all thought things were getting too wild, and took a step back.
@Melonator13
@Melonator13 11 ай бұрын
Get another pair and put one shifter on one bike and put the derailleur it's connected to on another bike and do the same with another bike. Then do a video where you and some other guy have to shift each others gears for a whole ride.
@Jump-n-smash
@Jump-n-smash 11 ай бұрын
Ahahah
@KenanTurkiye
@KenanTurkiye 11 ай бұрын
ummm...
@griffinridesbikes2point0
@griffinridesbikes2point0 11 ай бұрын
I am really happy we make mountain biking so inclusive
@chuckfernald1986
@chuckfernald1986 11 ай бұрын
I thoroughly enjoyed the fact that you tested the no handlebar option. As always, I learned something and was definitely entertained...keep it up!!
@nbrowser
@nbrowser 11 ай бұрын
Ok Seth...I've been binging your channels for a few weeks now. I haven't been on a bike in years and now I'm considering getting a nice MTB now seeing how far they've come and your videos are the catalyst to that, thank you.
@londonpickering8675
@londonpickering8675 11 ай бұрын
My buddy tried the Archer system on his old heavy steel touring bike. I rode it and it shifted flawlessly. Very cool video. Thank you for posting.
@SonOfGalactus
@SonOfGalactus 11 ай бұрын
this is really cool, I love how you're adapting an existing product to many other peoples abilities. You are showing others that, YES you can do it!!! You just have to think outside the box you grew up in....as my G-Pa said.
@drsinixt9269
@drsinixt9269 11 ай бұрын
Dude, absolutly flawless video, very entertaining, u show some funny ideas while making clear that it's up to the person using it how they'd like to use it, love your style
@TheXander9114
@TheXander9114 11 ай бұрын
I was literally just thinking about something like this on my morning ride to work today! Good to know something like it already exists! Thank you so much for sharing this info.
@kailindner-green5148
@kailindner-green5148 11 ай бұрын
id always thought electric shifters were goofy, but stepping outside my world where ive never had an issue operating a cable changes my perspective, ill stop trash talking electric shifters, even on conventional bikes since them becoming more common will make them affordable for people who need them, thanks for the great content and advocating for this
@SethMarcell
@SethMarcell 11 ай бұрын
Always love the love and visibility for adaptive cycling!
@ms.karihart2983
@ms.karihart2983 11 ай бұрын
Once again you’ve leveled up your content beautifully executed it was enlightening.
@petepure3387
@petepure3387 11 ай бұрын
Cheers to the Silliest man on KZfaq... But also the maker of excellent informative videos. Thanks!
@stujm8376
@stujm8376 11 ай бұрын
I ride thumbs over the bars quite often when I want to rest my hands, don’t see a problem with it. Obviously only when it’s safe though, I wouldn’t ride a gnarly trail like that because I don’t think you’d have enough control. Those shifters look fantastic though, I’d be use them without a doubt.
@rondvivre3636
@rondvivre3636 11 ай бұрын
This is the sort of content that makes Cycling KZfaq worthwhile. Thanks Seth! 👍
@kw6919
@kw6919 11 ай бұрын
I'm an old Mountain biker with Rheumatoid Arthritis, these could be a great addition to my setup. Good info I knew Nothing about. Thanks!
@mscudde2
@mscudde2 11 ай бұрын
Such a great video, and omgosh the intro was freakin hilarious! Beyond entertaining :)
@Mikesonbikes
@Mikesonbikes 11 ай бұрын
Love to see you riding with catalyst!! You inspired the build for my latest video. This is so awesome!
@Jetskir118
@Jetskir118 11 ай бұрын
Always great content, thanks for the video.
@nowheregirl4025
@nowheregirl4025 11 ай бұрын
i love this channel!!! Thank you Seth!!
@onesadtech
@onesadtech 11 ай бұрын
In lifting that grip with the thumb over is called the "suicide grip" but a lot of people still prefer it, haha. Cool technology though, always glad to see something that makes cycling more accessible.
@TheBRad704
@TheBRad704 11 ай бұрын
I'm wondering if Seth was trying to avoid some specific brand name-dropping on this vid. Because TOGS are literally designed to help with bike control while 'thumb over bars' and Sram has wireless AXS blips, remote shift buttons you can already put anywhere you want.
@irguygunt33chul3sson
@irguygunt33chul3sson 11 ай бұрын
That's WICKED! Thanks for sharing Seth
@kerrermanisNL
@kerrermanisNL 11 ай бұрын
I certainly found it entertaining! Btw fun fact, antlers are relatively popular in the Netherlands. Most people who cycle medium to far distance put them on their regular (city) bikes for more comfort :)
@hdw-dq3iu
@hdw-dq3iu 11 ай бұрын
re: ditching AXS: wireless blips exist for AXS, with even more options because they are completely wireless. they are mostly for TT bikes, so i'm not sure if they would work with AXS Eagle, but they probably should
@matttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
@matttttttttttttttttttttttttttt 11 ай бұрын
I hope everyone out there gets a chance to have fun riding bikes at some point in their life.
@oldmanstumpie1061
@oldmanstumpie1061 11 ай бұрын
I've got a set of those Ergon GP5-L's. I have a dodgy neck and they are great for long rail-trail rides or pavie rides where being in one position for an extended time is quite straining. They give you so many different positions and keep your back and neck straighter. I use normal grips for regular MTB rides though.
@parker-b
@parker-b 11 ай бұрын
every video you’ve put out this year, the end comes around and you’re like, “i hope you at least found this entertaining” and every single i’m like, yes. yes i did find this immensely entertaining. so doggone creative!
@hydrogen5149
@hydrogen5149 11 ай бұрын
1:35 I'm actually really liking the idea of having trigger dedicated to shifting up and the other trigger dedicated to shifting down. Not only could it be simpler for people to understand, it's a symmetrical setup that doesn't involve a front derailleur :D Kind of hoping that mechanical "split-shifters" become a thing now...
@matt_m126
@matt_m126 11 ай бұрын
A friend of mine was born with 1 hand. He uses a similar system to have all his shifting on that one hand. He also adapts his brakes to work with the same hand to both wheels. He is an amazing biker and mechanic.
@danwebber9494
@danwebber9494 11 ай бұрын
Years ago I set up an all right side control setup for a kid with left hand limitations. Thumb shifter, grip shift, 4 finger lever and a 2 finger bmx lever.
@asafcohen3272
@asafcohen3272 11 ай бұрын
The combination of a creative mind and a compassionate heart is what makes you the best creator in youtube
@bindingcurve
@bindingcurve 11 ай бұрын
Those bars are too wide for bar ends. 15 years ago, bars were a LOT smaller.
@robatkins6432
@robatkins6432 11 ай бұрын
we have this in our bifters on di2 on road bike already! its so usefull for being in an Aero position and changing gear!
@cellphonenut
@cellphonenut 11 ай бұрын
Everything Seth does for mountain biking is positive. I think that is so great and this was one of the most best positive videos I’ve seen.
@ad419
@ad419 11 ай бұрын
Wow, great to see adaptive cycling spotlighted
@SimonBauer7
@SimonBauer7 11 ай бұрын
these are awesome for people that need them/want them. was about time something like this appeared. i am good with normal trigger shift.
@reubenbryant
@reubenbryant 11 ай бұрын
Oh I really like the sound of them. I have very small hands with short thumbs. Reaching to change gear typically involves moving my hand out of position (amount depends on whether I’m on my MTB or road bike). The shifters can only be adjusted so much but it’s never enough for my hands. Those satellite ones would actually be really helpful for me. As for thumb over the bars. I often do this. Although not all the time, I do it pretty frequently. Because of the short thumbs, if I try and hold my bars the correct way, my thumb kind of sticks out at a funny angle and can’t wrap round it to grip properly.
@joeshmoe7967
@joeshmoe7967 11 ай бұрын
Antlers rule for hill climbing. I have then=m on all my regular bikes. Don't need on my eMTB. They do also allow a change in hand position that is great on really long rides. Thumb nail was sneaky but brilliant, as no one would think taking hands off the bars to shift would be a good idea.....reeled us all in, for an entertaining informative video.....just like always. - Cheers
@robertwilliams7626
@robertwilliams7626 11 ай бұрын
I love how you can take something silly and find a way to help more people ride. Industry leader when it comes to the MTB Community. Really appreciate all you do!
@Hephera
@Hephera 9 ай бұрын
he didn't do anything? this product was designed for disabled cyclists. it's not "silly" and Seth isn't the one who made them
@wjlasloThe2nd
@wjlasloThe2nd 11 ай бұрын
This looks great! I have weird half-webbing between my thumbs and palms, can't extend my thumbs very far, so a lot of thumb shifters aren't very ergonomic for me, and straight flat bars can get really uncomfortable because the issue also changes the angle of my wrist. I do ride meercat-style sometimes, but even standard-grip these look easier to get to than a standard thumb lever.
@GardFiring
@GardFiring 11 ай бұрын
I loved the Deore XT dual control, back in the day. Bring it back with electronic shifting!! 😬🔥
@nwsurf3696
@nwsurf3696 11 ай бұрын
Chirping Brian about his grip position has to be some of the funniest lines this channel has ever produced. 😂 Thanks for the happy tears
@jasonlee4267
@jasonlee4267 11 ай бұрын
really thought this was going to be a pointless video, but then you explained its usage and various applications, its excellent adaptive option
@mxer989
@mxer989 11 ай бұрын
I love ur videos keep making them and keep doing what ur doing
@blondebeard6335
@blondebeard6335 11 ай бұрын
Love my ergon grips, the "antlers" give extra leverage for climbing.
@RealCult
@RealCult 11 ай бұрын
I saw yah at Sea otter and didn’t even say hi! Loved this video. So funny 😂😂😂😂
@RowanJackson-xk8vs
@RowanJackson-xk8vs 11 ай бұрын
i love the videos, keep up the great content
@BenBike
@BenBike 11 ай бұрын
Oh man that line "he grips it like a marsupial" was too funny! I'll grip like that on a climb sometimes or on flat trail after a rowdy section and my arms are pumped
@Macwood94
@Macwood94 11 ай бұрын
I don’t know if you knew this but this weekend also happens to be the start of the special Olympics! It’s really great that you came out with this video for this particular week!!!
@FlyNineVictor
@FlyNineVictor 11 ай бұрын
I got the Archer Dx1 with the paddle shifter because I have arthritis in my shifting thumb. Electronic shifting is awesome and the Archer shifter is great. You can combine any derailleur and any cassette with any number of cogs. If you like electronic shifting and don't want to buy a new bike, the Archer Dx1 is the way to go. I shift much more often now and keep my cadence steady. I think it is a game changer. BTW you should have spent a little more time highlighting the paddle shifter and the use case for everyday riders.
@joelstewart2255
@joelstewart2255 11 ай бұрын
I use inner bar-ends and love them. Have them on a town bike but now even run them on my full suss trail bike. Mild issues with my thumbs means that I really like that hoods-like position for road riding or paths between trails. They’re lightweight and don’t get in the way when not using them and you can use your brakes perfectly well from them for that type of riding. Shifting depends on what sort of shifters you run, but there might be a way to use these wireless ones (I wont be). SQlabs make great inner bar ends (my girlfriend loves hers), but I got some cheap Spurgrips (possibly knock-offs) from eBay and they are just fine. I also do the marsupial thing, too, for a rest/change now and again, but not anywhere technical.
@tillmann_dr
@tillmann_dr 11 ай бұрын
You can use them on a SLOPEDURO bike and add them to the frame, so you can shift but still make barspins
@jaysee2213
@jaysee2213 11 ай бұрын
I like the left and right gear paddle set up.
@HyperBiker
@HyperBiker 11 ай бұрын
I like the idea of left and right hand shifting up/down or whatever. Surely SRAM could develop simple shift buttons for their AXS systems.
@stumpy25lbs
@stumpy25lbs 11 ай бұрын
In 2018, when I wanted to go from single speed to geared on my Niner carbon Air frame, I discovered that due to the carbon lay-up I couldn't feed the shifter cable through the chainstay (a Niner frame building fault). When Niner refused to compensate me I bought the D1x and have been using it ever since! 🤘🏼
@glennh8185
@glennh8185 11 ай бұрын
the last 30 seconds of this vid are the best part for me haha. funny to see you have to ride with handlebars.
@richardledingham1036
@richardledingham1036 11 ай бұрын
Yup i chainsaw like that - thumb over. Been shouted at during training but it just occurs and seems to have worked fine for 20+ years. 😊
@1954-codm
@1954-codm 11 ай бұрын
Babe, wake up! Seth just dropped a video.
@DeterminedMTBiker
@DeterminedMTBiker 11 ай бұрын
As a tetraplegic rider it’s great to this content. I’ve been trying to use my head to shift and I’m having to rebuild my rear wheel and gears to use Alfine and Di2. Sadly Archer is not available for a Rohloff hub. But maybe I can convince them there is a market in Europe for them as only the new Bosch and Panasonic e-bikes work for the Rohloff E-14 electric shifting
@G60syncro
@G60syncro 11 ай бұрын
So cool! I could use them on my downtube to replace my friction shifters!! Seriously though, the mechanical designer in me wants to see more of those adaptive bikes, what makes them tick and how are they built? Do an episode on them please!!
@Lizlodude
@Lizlodude 11 ай бұрын
As someone with one of those legitimate thumb problems this is actually pretty cool. (also a constant reminder of how important thumbs are. stupid thumb.)
@pauleddy5146
@pauleddy5146 11 ай бұрын
Pro peloton have had these on the top bar of their drops for the cobbles, where bouncing on hard, high pressure road tires over sharp edge bricks in the middle of the road (well they are the road) allowed, as you stated, another hand position with the ability to shift. Tech always has a place. Some very niche, some for broad use. These would work . . . if you needed them. Most folks don't need them. If they did, manufacturers would have them installed as factory stock.
@rob-c.
@rob-c. 11 ай бұрын
And on TT bike at the ends of the Tri-bars so you can change gear whilst in that position. I’m amazed MTB hasn’t adopted them as they’ve been on road bikes for years now.
@maddoxjohnson9862
@maddoxjohnson9862 11 ай бұрын
Sram does in fact make a set of satellite shifters called "Blips" for their axs or etap drivetrains. I race coss country, I find them super useful just in the middle of my bars right by the stem so I can switch up the grip and get a little more aero on flat sections. They are also super useful on aero clip bars for adventure or longer distance riding.
@AK-oz4ew
@AK-oz4ew 11 ай бұрын
It is a great product for disabled military veterans who are into MTB. Kudos to whoever created it!
@dadsondirt
@dadsondirt 11 ай бұрын
The Archer D1X is an awesome example of thinking outside of the box and giving riders the ability to do whatever they want. I love my D1X and the support has been amazing from the company. I'm not using it for adaptive purposes, just saving wear and tear on my thumb from the heavy push of the Eagle shifter.
@flamepruf5043
@flamepruf5043 11 ай бұрын
Love my archer setup
@62swampboy62
@62swampboy62 11 ай бұрын
Seth, you are ALWAYS entertaining LOL.
@glitchman3194
@glitchman3194 11 ай бұрын
It would be hilarious to see someone who has no idea who Seth is watching him film this video on a bike path. Thanks for sharing. Enjoy the ride
@Calfa2x
@Calfa2x 11 ай бұрын
You can already do this with AXS wireless blips, of course, they are more expensive but you can do it with high-end derailleurs as well. There are multiple videos of people using blips for shifting, it even used to allow you to use your reverb AXS dropper by clicking both blips at the same time.
@jto-mtb
@jto-mtb 11 ай бұрын
Seth, i love all your videos. You do great work. But for the first time, you have given me something to think about. I have dislocated both thumbs a few times. Mabey i will put some money into this product and play with a new idea.
@sq5
@sq5 11 ай бұрын
These would have been great a few years back when I broke, (completely mangled), my thumb, (riding), and still couldn't change gears long after all the other injuries healed and I could get back on the bike. I rigged up a system that allowed me to press the gears with the heel of my hand until my thumb got to the point where I could use it again. It was awkward and uncomfortable doing it that way, but at least I could keep riding. Something like this would have been really great to use instead. Props to the inventors!
@JamesBSweet
@JamesBSweet 11 ай бұрын
I really like to see a series of video featuring different adaptive bike set ups.
@lburger404
@lburger404 11 ай бұрын
Love videos like this!
@mindless7577
@mindless7577 11 ай бұрын
Nice video again keep it up👍
@rampapandiontinling
@rampapandiontinling 11 ай бұрын
I would put them on the sides of the brake levers that face upward at the wide base end. Basically the electronic version of Shimano's dual control from the 90's. Keep your fingers on the levers that way. ;)
@Pierre-louisGanne
@Pierre-louisGanne 11 ай бұрын
This year at the Paris Roubaix there was a couple of riders that use those so that they could shift throug the cobles stone section and not change their grip position
@criticalpsyche
@criticalpsyche 11 ай бұрын
i still use those mini antlers are a hand guard and they have saved my hand in some occasions and my brake lever as well.
@carsonfiero4209
@carsonfiero4209 11 ай бұрын
In the late 90s you could get a bar end mounted shifter that connected to your regular shimano rapid fire shifter with cables. Only saw one or two back then.
@robbybobbyhobbies
@robbybobbyhobbies 7 ай бұрын
I have remote shifters on my road bike to make climbing more straightforward - hands on top of the bars instead of in the drops (where my main shifters are easily accessible). Antlers - i sometimes feel they'd be great on my eMTB when i was in lazy cruise mode.
@BobFolowski
@BobFolowski 11 ай бұрын
Some cars are doing brake by wire now - it'd be interesting to combine that with the satellite shifters
@mudkayak6305
@mudkayak6305 11 ай бұрын
cars need to be driven with wireless hand held game controllers and ditch the steering wheel and pedals altogether
@JohnDB252
@JohnDB252 11 ай бұрын
Assuming the button just closes the circuit when pressed, add y-cables, with the right pinout count, and you can add additional buttons to the existing transmitter. Then you could put them on the antler and a more tradition area.
@bradehlers3886
@bradehlers3886 11 ай бұрын
I"ve said for years, way before AXS, a cheap wireless option would be ideal for a child's first geared bike. Both my kids went from a 12" balance bike to a 20" 1x7. Grip shift was a joke for small hands so I went thumbsihfter right away. Even then they could barely actuate it and never when needed. That's besides the fact of having to decide which one to press to make it easier or harder to pedal. I color coded the levers and would call out which color to press. A button actuated system would make it even easier for little fingers too. Though originally, my idea was actualy for the controler system to be placed on the parent's bike that is following behind. Could have saved a lot of grief out on the trails in the ealy days. I would have just done the shifting for them.
@mr5bassman
@mr5bassman 11 ай бұрын
In the gym, the "thumbs over" grip is called "suicide grip" when doing a bench press. It's fine for light weight, but dangerous when trying to keep heavy weight from slipping and breaking ribs since the wrist isn't as stable. I will ride with a suicide grip on smooth trail sections when my hands are feeling the stress & going numb, but always switch to a standard grip when going over any rough terrain.
@jacklo325
@jacklo325 11 ай бұрын
Must say, the kent trouvaille is getting some air time recently. Probably the go-to bike for crazy tests...
@zebbenbrown1301
@zebbenbrown1301 11 ай бұрын
I primarily ride with my thumbs over the top. Much more comfortable especially using Ergon GP1 ergonomic grips. I’ll put my thumb under when descending the gnarly stuff or jumping.
@fredduggan2637
@fredduggan2637 11 ай бұрын
I’ve been using the Archer D1x for a few years now and prefer it over the big brand wireless setup any day. Also their customer service is some of the best I have ever experienced!
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