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Schaub: If you’re not UFC you’re not shit! Joe: Lima can beat anyone. Schaub: Oh for sure, totally agree. 100 perthent!

From a business perspective, it would be so dumb for the UFC to do a cross promotion. It would legitimize the other organization. Also, what if their fighters lost?

Phone rings after the podcast: "Hi Joe, it's Dana."

Rogan is smooth man. Josh was about to go in on UFC fighter pay and how other orgs pay more and Rogan instantly jumped in and switched the topic to fight quality and fighter skill, lol

Daily reminder that almost everyone that came from strikeforce became a champion in the UFC.

Man I still remember Josh giving Nate Diaz the BUSINESS

Lima is definitely a championship calliber fighter.

Yes, but there are a lot of good fighters in other promotions.

When he said “you gotta make sure your building your brand cause the ufc will always be fine” he’s basically describing Colby

When WEC was around everyone said their 55ers would hang with the UFC 55ers. Then Benson and Pettis won the title. Same thing was said for Strikeforce then Gil arguably best benson by decision and rockhold won the belt. Ufc has 80% of the best fighters but Not 100%

I would say that ONE Championship gives the UFC a run for it's money in terms of quality of fighters. Absolutely amazing fighters with ONE Championship. Amazing.

Joe Rogan "we all know what makes the ufc great is the commentating."

I saw josh Thompson fight Yves Edwards at ufc 47 and I have admired and respected his ability ever since. If you do not give a man respect based off of their promotion is silly. Granted politics are different everywhere but respect should be universal.

Notice how Joe derailed the talk when Josh brought up how strikeforce fighters earned more than UFC fighters. Damn

ONE FC has a lot of killers, Eddie Alverez got knocked out and then nearly knocked out in his 2 fights there. Loads of great fighters

Never caught one of these this close to release

Josh Thomson was one of the best of his time but never really got the credit for it.

Gegard and Rory were the best talent you've had from the UFC, they both dominated in Bellator and were top 5 at best in the UFC years ago.

Thats why we need to have organization vs organization

Every organization has a “better than the rest” type of fighter, even OneFC and RiZin. In the UFC you’ve got a lot of stand out fighters, the reason being, that they’re the most popular promotion in the world. But Bellator’s got guys like Lima, Chandler and now Nemkov. One Fc’s mma roster may be lagging behind in terms of talent, but they still have Mighty Mouse, Angela lee and Xi Jiong Nan who can match up pretty well with top fighters in other organizations. Plus they have the best Muay Thai and Kickboxing fights in the world right now, with guys like Petrosyan, Rodtang and Nong-O.

Could you imagine if MMA was treated like boxing? Instead of WBO vs WBA welterweight champion it was UFC vs Bellator welterweight champion. I’m not sure if it would be good but it would be interesting

No there not that's ESPN got scammed ufc says they have the best fighters in the world but they let someone like cyborg go to bellator and keep Raquel Pennington on the roster with a 1-4 record 😂😂😂😂ufc is a joke

One fight, everyone knows the rules … Wait ...

Josh hit the nail squarely on the head . It started (fighter pay discrepancy) with how legit mma publications were basically not allowed to ,in a sense , say who the best fighters are due to the ufc juggernaut being the premier organization. Not in talent but in production, merchandising and sponsorship

“I’m a prize fighter!” Okay...but you could be making more if you keep winning and build your name in the ufc

When I was wrestling as a young man. My coach use to say some of the best wrestlers in the world didn’t have discipline. I saw really talented guys come into the wrestling room and not make it past week 1-2. Always wondered what they could have done if the could just show up, make weight, and stay out of trouble on the streets.

Michael “MVP” Page vs Israel “ The Last Stylebender” Adesanya Bellator vs UFC. I would pay to see that fight.

This convo went on for a while in the full length version. But my favorite part was when Thomson was saying that he’d line up Bellator’s guys against the UFC any day of the week. But then when discussing Greg Hardy he said that Hardy hadn’t fought anyone yet, and then Rogan had to correct him because Hardy just fought Volkov - the former Bellator Heavyweight champ. Whoops.... He’s right in ways though. Bellator has guys that would be top-10 in their divisions in the UFC. But if you had to measure each division in a true world ranking and they fought it out, it would be overwhelmingly stacked with the UFC roster.

It's only a matter of time before conner wants that bubblegum title

Cross promotion fights.would be so dope. In my eyes those are the super fights. There's only been a couple supers ever but cross promo champ vs champ on my eyes is a super fight for mma

Scott Coker is a class act. He never shits on anyone and he knows the business as good as anyone. If you want to be treated right as a fighter you go to Belator. Period.

Josh "Do you watch American Idol" Thompson

Bubble Gum title gave me a heart attack 😂😂😂😂

When do we see DANA WHITE in the podcast !? Let's hear what he thinks about that 🧐

All the fighting organization should fight each other

Fighters should organize. Yang 2020 promotes fair wages for fighters

One things for sure, no one can ever call Joe a company man. Respect to him for saying this. Imagine any other ufc employee doing live fight companions of Bellator events? Lol Dana would tear them apart

It's been happening for years nearly every ufc champion was once a champion in a different organisation first.

Love watching all of Josh's on YT - what a Killer. .

It started when they follwed Vince's wwe model

If Ben Askren had joined the UFC 5 years ago he very well could have been a dominant force there.

4:50 Josh hit the nail on the head with that statement.. I think that's why so many people refer to MMA as UFC like UFC is the name of the sport! I remember when I first started training around 13 years old and anytime it would get brought up, people would say "so you're training UFC?" 😂 fuckin kills me!

I hope Josh will visit more in the future. He has great opinions.

Dana saying his boy McGregor is back is all about the cash cow$$.McGregor needs to fight masvidal or Ferguson to deserve a title rematch vs khabib

Cross promotion events should be a thing! Fans know whos the best of the best and the best should get paid accordingly

I would say that the average fighter in the ufc is possibly better than other promotions. However, at the highest level, there are amazing fighters in every promotions.

Man I was just saying this in clip before UFC is a company 😂

Moussasi comes to mind. Dude has beaten like a dozen mma legends.

The sooner Dana White is replaced at the UFC the sooner the fighters will start making good money! It's criminal how little most guys/girls are paid considering their level of talent and the inherit dangers of the sport ☹️

The list of guys who came over from Strikeforce would probably surprise many people. Strikeforce 170 and 185 divisions had a more impressive top 10 than the UFC did whenever they purchased Strikeforce. There wasn’t much to go off of to make said comparison until a couple years after they merged into the UFC but it became quite apparent IMO

People forget that the UFC signed CM Punk for 2 fights and the 2nd one involved one of their own guys. The UFC has a monopoly on media exposure and promotion, not fighters' talent or pay.

the best fighters are in asia meditating in the mountains every day

I think the two main reasons there isn’t a unified MMA league where definitively the best fighters go versus other major sports leagues is first, because fighting is an individual sport, there significantly more individual voices asking for what they want and in need of promotion/events/etc. If 30 people want to play professional basketball, you put together two teams and play one game then make a schedule so all the the other teams play each other an equal number of times and even if the last guy on the bench wants to play more, if his team is winning, that’s just the way it is. Iff you have the same scenario with 30 fighters, you now have to create matchups based on size/skill level for 15 different individual competitions and afterward have to do subjective evaluations to then determine who will fight who next and when. Creating a fight schedule for every single person that qualifies as a professional is an incredibly difficult task even from a book keeping standpoint especially when there are outside variables like injuries and egos to take into account which makes it easier if there are multiple organizations doing that instead of one huge entity trying to do it all. The second is the relative age of MMA as a professional sport. The NFL and the AFL were rivals and then merged, stars in each league became stars in the new unified league. The NBA and the ABA were rivals and then merged, stars in each league became stars in the new unified league. The NL and the AL were rivals and then merged into the MLB, stars in each league became stars in the new unified league. When sports first start professional leagues there’s always a period of things being splintered before one definitive league overtake everything, it just seems weird to us because we’re past that stage in most other major sports.

I'd they do cross promotion fights it should be a tournament where all the champs in each division fight it out to become the best of the divisions, have it like every two years

Josh “the narrative” Thompson

Cross-promotion fights once a year that would be dope

We KIND OF have different organisations in football (soccer), but it's more regionally based. So a handful of the top teams are in the UK, then you have one or two top teams in other countries as well. Only very rarely do you see the top teams playing each other because it's rare to have European competitions that match them all up.

I 100 agree wihh Joe in this one. They should make an organization called MMA which puts all the fighters in 1 organization in each country. That makes way more sense. Plus, you get to see more prospects and different fighters shining in the occasion.

Thank you Joe, MMA is the sport not the organisation. MMA needs to go the way boxing does, these fighters deserve way more money. Cross promotion fights...

aung la nsang, is the one I want to see fight in the ufc that guy is a straight beast.

I literally thought the title was a typo (edit: unfinished sentence) until mid way through the video lol that says alot

Would there ever be a fight between companies? See who has the best at each weight category?

Dana just said this a few days ago. He said they can fight somewhere else a lot of organizations pay more. He was telling us that ufc pay is not great for a lot of this fighters

Bet Uncle Dana doesn't like this stream of consciousness from Joe.

Cross promotion fights in a big tournament : Chmapion and contender #1 of ech organisation to see hows the reel deal !

"Cross promotion fighting" actually happend. UFC sent their fighters to Pride to prove they had the best fighters. It had mixed results at that time. But times have changed of course. Everyone remembers Chuck Liddell losing to Rampage and Rampage fought in the final and got viciously KOd by Wanderlei(another pride fighter at the time).

You know that point where you look in the mirror and think "I need to move up a tshirt size"

Get Scott cocker on the podcast!

One championship is my favorite to watch & I think they have some of the best all around fighters.

One thing about One FC vs Ufc is that there is a lot of small asian fighters that can give the lower weight classes some great competition. Or least it has the potential to do so.

I knew Dana is gangster but damn

How come they never talk about the steroids in the sports?

There are world class fighters everywhere. However the overall best competition is in the UFC.

Props to Josh for respecting the Diaz brothers 💪

Any street fighter on DMT can be a champ chump

This guy is a great analyst we need him in ufc.

Lima and MVP are amazing fighters. Would love to see crossover matches.

UFC is division one, Bellator and One Championship are division two. The thing about fighting is that any given day anyone can beat anyone, but UFC is so stacked on talent and personalities its on top

I came for DMT

If Coker ran the UFC, it would blast off to the stars. The fighters love him.

When I was in middle school I used to think mike zambidis would have destroyed everyone in his weight class intill I had a understanding of wrestling and jujitsu

Here is an idea ;once a year there should be a world MMA title tournament were the best from each organization meet to crown a world Champion from each wieght division ,this would be great for the fighters fan's and organizations. And that new arena no cage that Ken Shamrock has come up with would be great for the competiton

Pretty sure Josh Thomson was on the juice, he left when USADA came into the picture.

I wanna see a UFC and Bellator crossover event. Champions vs. Champions

One of the beautiful things about conversation is watching at least one a person who is well versed and controls the narrative even though it seems like a natural flowing conversation. Multi threading aids conversation and also offers the opportunity for multi direction, because threads do not have to be related. " Im a prize fighter its about making money" New thread "isnt it weird though..." Joe did not want to discuss pay in the UFC and completely changes the thread, but seems like a normal conversation. Joe is an invested employee of the UFC and pay is something which is not wise for him to discuss. 2:30 to 2:58

Well there's Gegard Mousaszi and Demetrious Johnson On the other hand there's Khalabeeb and Adesanya and Nuñez so I think it's a balance.

Love Josh's comment about Dana constructing narratives for the media (Genius). -at about 2:07 - another great JRE - .

I googled this guy, he's 41 yo. Wow.

I understand both points of views but I had the same position back when Pride was beating/up to par with the UFC and I guess they did do cross promotion with Chuck going over to Japan but nowadays the UFC has so many if not the majority of the best fighters in the world that a cross promotion wouldn’t really have a selling point since the other organizations best fighters are ex-UFC. We basically got a UFC/Pride cross over, UFC/WEC, UFC/Strikeforce/Elite XC cross promos when UFC bought em out and almost every time the other organizations fighters come and become champions in the UFC eventually like Anderson (kinda since wasn’t a pure Pride guy), Shogun, Werdum, Rampage and the WEC guys having champs like Aldo, Cruz, while bringing legendary lightweights like Cowboy and champs with Benson Henderson and Pettis. Strikeforce too Lawler became champ after his Strikeforce run after being outed by the UFC as well as Woodley, contenders like Thomson, Melendez but also one of the GOAT with DC. At this point with how many top fighters are spread across the major promotions, champ vs champ is really the only intriguing possible cross match ups.

I reckon Aung la n sang from one could fit well into the middleweight top 5

Cm punk should have never been fighting here

They all look good fighting in the D league until they come to the UFC and get ran over

Thomson is accurate. I remember USA Today writer Dan Rafael who covered MMA. In his articles his talked mostly about the UFC and its upcoming fights and fighters. I don't remember him mentioning any other promotion while he was covering MMA . So Joe Rogan is correct that the press in the beginning labeled the sport incorrectly as UFC instead of MMA, but also those writers were trying to attract an audience of not just people who were avid followers but main stream as well. Everyone heard of the UFC brand and why not just cover that brand.

If they do a Bellator v UFC event once a year Champs v Champs that would be the coolest.

I could care less about who has a title, its about match-ups. Also it was Cowboy that sucked BECAUSE he is over the hill and way past his prime !!

Surprised Joe admitted that about UFC.

What’s this today w/ Chandler vs Olivera is booked and honestly, a lot of the conversation of Bellator fighters in UFC will ride on how well Chandler does in this fight

Cain Velasquez started at strokeforce and went to dominate the UFC heavyweight division, safe to say Josh Thompson is correct.

UFC is the WWE of MMA.