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7 ай бұрын

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@jcwt_pdx
@jcwt_pdx 7 ай бұрын
I’m a Black woman artist who draws and paints women of Japanese nativity and ancestry, especially with black hair and green eyes. It’s sad that artists like myself get discredited by vindictive hypocrites. ⭐️
@emiliaserra1333
@emiliaserra1333 7 ай бұрын
Drop your social media's, I'd love to check your stuff out and support you!
@angeliquebacker8522
@angeliquebacker8522 7 ай бұрын
I don’t think people “discredit” your artwork, but it’s such a niche topic which is why it may not be popular in the art world. And especially not from other black artists, who usually prefer following people who make black or brown skinned art. Heck, even I see black artists following ancient Indian/Hindu or indigenous art pieces than Japanese unless they’re a weeb or something.
@cdarklock
@cdarklock 7 ай бұрын
One of the things a lot of people overlook is that when you are just starting to learn how to represent a particular skin tone or body type or (in my case) set of facial features, your early efforts look like caricatures and it's kind of embarrassing. And when you're a white man in your fifties, drawing an embarrassing caricature of say... an African person? That just looks like you're a member of a certain kind of organisation. It's not that I don't want to draw African characters, it's that they all look like something out of the Burning Cross newsletter, and I don't want any of that to end up in someone's hands to put out in public and say "LOOK WHAT HE DID" and now I have to somehow prove I'm NOT an enormous racist.
@chaus1ku
@chaus1ku 7 ай бұрын
Fax.
@bunnivii
@bunnivii 7 ай бұрын
As a poc artist imo its not racist if u dont create art of a certain skin type/hair type,,, I feel like certain hair types can genuinely be difficult for some artists to tackle, myself included I struggle a lot with curlier hair and im a poc myself!! So i completely understand if an artist stays in their comfort zone and chooses not to tackle that type of work at the moment! It can take a lot of time and practice for people to accurately and consistently depict a certain hair/skin type until they feel they can tackle drawing such things effortlessly once asked/commissioned to!! Of course its always great to branch out and practice, and im working on improving my work in hair types and textures as well, but not a requirement by any means, more like a skill to add if you feel like challenging yourself a bit and branching out!
@lelinh8861
@lelinh8861 7 ай бұрын
yup ,tottally agree . this happen to me one cause i am not draw dark skin character . excuse me for i never knew and meet any POC face to face in my life . yes i see them on the internet , no i am not familiar with such skin tone , and tradition beauty standard here is white unblemished skin with long straight black hair and we got reason for THAT to be that way, i have try to draw some since but they just look kinda plastic not the best
@lovelysakurapetalsyt
@lovelysakurapetalsyt 7 ай бұрын
Thank you, I feel so bad not being able to do it, but I can't draw too straight or too curly of hair, and it sucks. I try to work on it, and every attempt fails lol
@Coa0001
@Coa0001 7 ай бұрын
honestly shut up
@ang3ls.cup1d
@ang3ls.cup1d 7 ай бұрын
We get it your poc
@thefordlord9893
@thefordlord9893 7 ай бұрын
they only mentioned it twice?@@ang3ls.cup1d
@lotus0lycir
@lotus0lycir 7 ай бұрын
For me, art is purely self-indulgent, I'm sure many others share my view. I draw the things I like because it makes me happy to indulge in those things. I've been called misogynistic in the past because I rarely ever draw girls, maybe the occasional one for a trade etc if I need to but 90% of my art consists of males because I'm well, gay. It's always been kind of a dumb argument against me in my opinion.. I don't hate women by any means I just choose to draw the things I'm attracted to, whether that's my own characters or fanart of characters I like which happen to be 90% male.
@FAITERA
@FAITERA 7 ай бұрын
yeah I completely agree with this , and I think the same logic can be applied to people who just want to draw the body type they prefer.
@milk.8793
@milk.8793 7 ай бұрын
i remember i used to draw only girls. but somewhere near my time of transitioning i drew only guys. gender envy or im just gay. 🤺
@lotus0lycir
@lotus0lycir 6 ай бұрын
@@milk.8793 Bro we had the same experience.
@CrookedFood23
@CrookedFood23 6 ай бұрын
How the hell does that make you a misogynistic, I know if a guy only draws women, the people would have probably called the guy a pervert or weirdo. Men are being painted as the bad guys in this society, and it is getting on my nerves
@lotus0lycir
@lotus0lycir 6 ай бұрын
@@CrookedFood23 I'd only call the guy drawing only women a little strange if all the women he draws are busty hourglass girls that look generally oversexualised. Oversized and oversexualised female + male anatomy in art is a big turn off in making any kind of friendship with someone for me. Or literally anyone who draws 'futa' fetish stuff, not talking about trans women.
@mozzapple
@mozzapple 7 ай бұрын
Honestly them saying it's "easy" to learn to draw an entirely new form of anatomy is so entitled. Like, we get it, you're a super talented quick-learner who probably went to an art school or took classes online, but guess what? Not everybody is born with those amazing skills or has the money to take professional anatomy lessons. Most artists online are just hobbists who built up their art mostly on their own through hard work. Learning a new form of anatomy, especially when you don't have much interest in learning in the first place, is an extremely difficult and sluggish process that a lot of people give up on. I can't draw muscles or plus-sized body types or elderly features or textured hair because I started drawing for fun, and learning something new that I'm never going to incorporate into my personal works ISN'T FUN. If I were aiming to draw one of the previous examples, then I'd give my best shot, but if it's not fun then I'm just simply not doing it. Trying to force people to draw certain things is gross and manipulative.
@TeaStochl
@TeaStochl 6 ай бұрын
then dont call urself a professional simple as that bvecause if you dont branch out you are NOT a professional
@Sqewree
@Sqewree 6 ай бұрын
@@TeaStochl who called themselves that? you also don't need to be a professional to take commissions btw.
@liqznaa
@liqznaa 6 ай бұрын
lmfao??@@TeaStochl
@TeaStochl
@TeaStochl 6 ай бұрын
@@liqznaa idek what you on about yes if you think you are at a teacher level in art you do need to have some knowledge of drawing other things than skinny white girls
@naraku971
@naraku971 7 ай бұрын
I kinda feel like this is shades of a long ass time someone asked me to draw Undertale characters on tumblr, and I said no, I didn't want to, and she got angry and started throwing accusations, and I was like "give me a good reason, and are you even going to pay me?" She said because "I want you to" and no, she wasn't going to pay me, and she wasn't going to give me a good reason, and that I should draw it because she wanted me to. >.> I don't even like Undertale, and I rarely draw fan art to begin with, and even then it's stuff I like, like SMT, or Pokemon.
@devinkii1727
@devinkii1727 7 ай бұрын
Why would you commission an artist to draw something they don't know how to draw? Some people find plus sized bodies difficult, I'm still learning the difference between how fat is distributed on male and female bodies. Not everyone can dedicate hours to learning every aspect of art. Not everyone is trying to be tokyozilla or some shit, some of us are just here for shits and giggles. I think diversity in art Is dope, but you shouldn't force artists to draw what they don't know, that's how you end up with some odd images, yes me and many other artists want to be diverse, but not everyone does and yes, it is okay, it's not them being racist or fatphobic. There's 100000s of artists , you can find artists that draw what you're looking for
@pumpkibee
@pumpkibee 6 ай бұрын
this is what i'm saying, i would let you know if i am not confident in your OC's body type, whether buff or fat. i don't want to be paid for something i am not confident will turn out well so i'm saved the struggle and frustration and worry, and youre saved in wasting your money for something that both of us know won't turn out good yet. your money is better spent elsewhere, somewhere someone is good at drawing what you're looking for. they literally said it themself "learn it, it's easy" it's like okay even if it is easy, i haven't had a chance to learn it yet, so i am not comfortable accepting money for it yet??
@hanin_gurl
@hanin_gurl 7 ай бұрын
I agree with the video and the concept of "draw what u want as long as it isn't hurting anybody"! just that OP's tweet "No one will cater to YOU because YOU think they should learn to draw something YOU find correct." Is in my own opinion, too aggressive? I feel like learning how to draw different body types and color different skin colors isn't bad at all and is an especially great thing to recommend learning for people who do commissions considering there will be people requesting different body types and skin colors. Art is a journey about learning and having fun IMO, it really shouldn't be an issue to expand your art. Definitely when you're doing it as a job as it'll reach a more diverse fanbase. This isn't to say you should be forced to, just that it really genuinely should be something you consider. I know that some artists don't draw diverse people simply because they're scared people will criticize how they draw them and they don't want to be bullied off the internet. But i personally believe this fear shouldn't hinder them from trying for themselves anyways. The internet will always connect you to someone who will hate and criticize you for what you do so don't be afraid to try new things while you're at it.
@Theo-ub5wd
@Theo-ub5wd 7 ай бұрын
I agree with you, people shouldn't be forced to draw different body types or skin types, I've seen many artists get bashed for drawing similar body types and skin tones. Personally, I think it's ok for people to draw those types without being forced to branch out, however, I agree that artists should experiment with their art and branch out to concepts and studies that are out of their comfort zone.
@hanin_gurl
@hanin_gurl 7 ай бұрын
​@@Theo-ub5wd Exactly, a bit off topic but god forbid if someone is attempting to get you cancelled with an accusation whether real or false while you're at it. The amount of bullying, name-calling and EXTRA accusations that happens when you get cancelled is insane. People will make a bunch of videos bullying your art style, your characters and etc until the accusation is confirmed or denied. And if it's denied to be factual, people will suddenly switch sides and act like they didn't actively join in on the hate train and attempt to comfort you. I don't think cancel culture is 100% bad because some people really should get shunned from the internet (P*dos, z*ophiles and etc..) But yeah, cyber bullying on the internet has been extremely normalized for years now. I think hopeless peach is a really great example of this off the top of my mind.
@CosmiccCreations
@CosmiccCreations 7 ай бұрын
This is such a good video, I don't offer humans in my commissions (yet), not cause I don't want to draw them, but because I am not confident in my quality/capability to execute them correctly & not risk disappointing my clients. That being said, I'm currently in the process of (committing to it) practicing so I can offer them in commissions, make fanart of my favorite human characters, and branch out of my artwork more to reach a new audience. There's no shame in declining something if it's not something you're comfortable or capable drawing it, so long as you're respectful about it.
@moonscorchedd
@moonscorchedd 7 ай бұрын
to me, i always saw refusing to draw other ethnicities/body types at all as something similar to hiding the hands in all your drawings (i.e., behind the character's back, in big mittens for a winter outfit, etc). we artists all know how hard hands are, but they're part of drawing humans, and if you hide the hands in ALL of your drawings, it can diminish your perceived talent. not drawing hands *doesn't directly harm anyone,* but *you do have to be somewhat aware of the REPUTATION you can get* as "artist who never draws hands", likewise for "artist who never draws fat people", "artist who never draws South Asian people", "artist who never draws men", "artist who only draws busty hourglass women". edit: i say this not in regards to an artist's commission portfolio but moreso to their entire body of work. obviously a commission portfolio is specialized, but i feel most artists draw more beyond just commissions. for the entire body of work, paid and unpaid, to "hide the hands", _that_ is when it can give the reputation.
@TeaStochl
@TeaStochl 6 ай бұрын
so what i get from this is always hide hands and never draw poc if you dont want to even if your job is to show people to draw and draw varieties of people
@kyushinin
@kyushinin 6 ай бұрын
i don't think every artist cares ab their reputation in the aspect tht ur talking ab. some ppl js wanna draw bc they find it fun, they draw the things that they like and find appealing. i think labelling an artist as an ''artist who never draws...'', just shouldn't be done bc at the end of the day, wht an artist draws *tends* to be things that they may find attractive, cool, interesting (and some js do it as a hobby) and if those are the only things you're known for, then so be it, it makes u more recognisable in a sense ? personally i dont mind being known as an artist who only draws slim characters bc slim characters are what I want to draw and what I can draw. I find that attractive (not saying i don't find chubby ppl attractive, i've seen some that are.), and i feel like i can make more interesting and cool designs and make them have more dynamic poses bc of their body type and shape. I wouldn't know how to incorporate those onto chubbier or fatter characters bc i don't know how to, nor do I want to learn to bc it's not something I'm interested in learning, nor will I put it into my art. i don't mind being known as an artist who draws men with abs or men with glasses, mostly characters who smile or anime styled drawings, because they're what I enjoy drawing! I started art as a hobby, I don't want it to be a chore, learning things that i *just. don't. care. for* . At the end of the day I don't want to be doing a bunch of commissions or draw art that involve things that I don't find the least bit interesting, all bc I care ab how i'm perceived by others, and what my reputation is to certain people. It's my work and it always will be. My point is, that reputation in that aspect of not being able to draw certain things or just not drawing certain things, doesn't matter to every artist, well, not to me anyway because the reason I draw what I draw is because I enjoy it, like it, and find it interesting. And I just want to say that I'm not trying to come across rude to you OP, your point was very reasonable. But I'm trying to make it clear to those who believe that it is compulsory to draw diverse characters, when it is not.
@CutebutPsycho29
@CutebutPsycho29 6 ай бұрын
Honestly I like this take. I feel like people are focusing on 5he wrong aspect of these arguments. Like as an artist you are allowed to draw whatever you want and have complete control over that, but people are allowed to feel however they want about your art. So if a random Twitter user sees your body of work and is disappointed that you don't draw poc or chubby ppl, that is fine. You can't control how ppl react to your art especially if u post on a public platform. Obviously it sucks if ppl make assumptions about you or judge your art unfairly, but as an artist, we open ourselves up to criticism everytime we post. Fair or no. Anybody can not like your art for any reason. If you find the criticism is valid and take it to heart great, but if it's not valid or not important to you, that's ok too. Basically if we have the right to draw anything we want, we have to accept that ppl have the right to react to it anyway they want. Not everyone is gonna like your art and that's ok. It's not easy but that is also a huge part of being an artist on the internet.
@silentxtime
@silentxtime 7 ай бұрын
Oof. I remember that thread. I threw in my 2 cents on twitter. Came down to you cannot dictate what an artist chooses to draw or not draw. If you try to, your entitlement is astounding. You're better off finding an artist that is for you because clearly the one you're attacking is not for you.
@EvaHoshizora
@EvaHoshizora 7 ай бұрын
The part you said there is not artists to draw dark skinned or fat characters, I felt that. I draw both, I expressed the desire to draw them more, and I never get requests nor commissions of them. Not even FREE ART people take upon it, if you are not a stabilished artist to draw ONLY these things, and it feels like Twitter (X) just wants DRAMA and not actual solutions, and that is so depressing.
@CaptiousClown
@CaptiousClown 7 ай бұрын
Personal art is therapeutic, commissions are business. An artist needs to analyze their strengths and weaknesses to improve their art, in order to make a living from commissions. Where as to personal art; it's more of a hobby. So improvement is optional. It is helpful to practice drawing POC and stoutly bodies, but an artist should never feel pressured into drawing different things, or ashamed if they don't. Forcing artists to draw different ethnic groups and body types is not true representation; it's superficial.
@FearlessFighterAkida
@FearlessFighterAkida 7 ай бұрын
Social media has enabled so many bad actors to "political-ize" everything in order to guilt people into doing they don't currently do. People say "just learn" as if learning is easy. It isn't. Artists can spend *years* or even *decades* learning how to do fundamentals. Getting custom artwork isn't like going into a Walmart and being denied service. Personally, I don't really care to draw more diversely at this moment because I'm focused on trying to do fundamentals. So I have no real interest in working on something that isn't my preference. On the flip side, I'd rather someone be honest in that they feel like they can't deliver on my OC and decline the commission as opposed to taking my money and just trying to learn on the fly. Not everything is a catastrophe. You are not entitled to anyone else's time or labor. If someone declines to take your money, they decline to take your money. And in regards to you offering a free model and no one taking it - it really proves my theory that these people don't actually care about inclusion, they just care about being right, angry or hateful and they have an easy way to do it if they frame everything through a political or socio-political lense.
@L0d0p
@L0d0p 7 ай бұрын
As a black artist I understand 😅 its some work that has to be done. Like I grew up with the anime style so I didnt have many references of black people, so I just drew what I saw. I didn't think much about it at all when I started. Even now being more experience I would say I don't draw black people like that, not because I don't know how to but I don't think about it. Its just another color on the color wheel to me. It isn't RACIST to not want to draw stuff like that or sometimes they dont know where to start. Stuff like hair textures and body types take time and practice but it all boils down to if they artist wants to. And if they wany to be serious about it or have fun etc etc. I promise you not ALL black artists think you are racists for not drawing black people. Most of the time they are kinda indifferent or dont care. Like the Koolen thing. I know that was a huge drama but to me personally she isn't an racist...and some black people like to pull that card WAY too much.
@starchild4136
@starchild4136 7 ай бұрын
As a black artist, the only time i really branch out into different body and hair types is when im doing projects, but if this is just a one time thing, 9 times out of 10 gonna be the easiest thing i can do, which is a slim girl with straight or wavy hair, if i have a differnt vision in mind that day then I'll draw something different The same way artists can draw what they want, the consumer can consume what they want and if you notice there isn't enough of what you like, it's maybe time for you to start that change yourself
@Palikawii
@Palikawii 7 ай бұрын
I feel like it would be fine to deny a commission of something you find difficult to draw, Im poc and I wouldn't really feel bad if the artist denied drawing an oc because of her curly hair or her skin color as long as it's not like mean or anything. I can't draw furries or mecha stuff, when I got commissioned one of those I had to deny because it's just something I'm not skilled at yet (and probably never will be, I hate drawing complex mecha), id rather deny a commission than give the commissioner a low quality and ugly furry that I made for them, specially because they're paying me expecting a good result. I think it's important to learn how to draw different body types and skin colors and hair (specially if you're taking commissions), but it's not something you *have* to do, and nobody can make you do something you don't feel comfortable with or haven't mastered yet.
@hiiragii
@hiiragii 7 ай бұрын
while I agree drawing dif body types and hair types can be harder to draw, there is literally no excuse for not "being able to draw different skin colors". Color picking exists??? If you can use brown or darker colors for hair or eyes it is not that hard to use a color palette with proper skin tones
@Palikawii
@Palikawii 7 ай бұрын
@@hiiragii oh yes I actually agree! I never rlly did struggle with different skin colors, but i definitely improved after watching a single video about them, i can't force anyone to draw different skin colors but if they say it's "difficult" i will just think it's an excuse 😅
@ca678.4
@ca678.4 6 ай бұрын
⁠@@hiiragiipeople be having the most complex shadows and lighting in their art but piss themselves at the thought of drawing someone with dark skin. 🤣🤣 I think it’s funny and very telling. Dark skin isn’t that complicated to draw any more than light skin is in anime art styles. Realism tho? That’s a different story. But anime? It’s easy as hell. I think people just don’t want to admit that they grew up only drawing “white”/“asian” because that’s all that they were socialized to draw because anime hardly ever has much diversity. And it’s okay to admit that. Acknowledgement leads to progress. I just find it weird though how some people act so aggressively towards this topic when pointing out the lack of dark skin. Stop being afraid to say “I’m uncomfortable because I have little experience drawing that” and people would understand. Vs “I don’t have to draw DARK skin because I don’t want to/have to REEE” the worst I’ve had read with regards to this is someone saying that “it’s a preference to draw only white skin because people only want to draw beautiful characters” which is… yikes. Pretty self explanatory.
@LadyMirravin
@LadyMirravin 7 ай бұрын
Imma say it Imma say it. BODY TYPE AND SKIN TONE ARE NOT THE SAME! like for real, let's be real I'm a fat ass bitch, but I typically don't draw fat people because I don't find it astatically pleasing because who is my art mostly for???? MY FAT ASS! Colors can be interchangeable and most people are going to do what is most familiar to them, that doesn't mean they oppose the other skin tones. If you ask them to do other sink tones or hair styles for you they usually won't have an issue with you, and if your fat character isn't fat enough in the artist's personal art style that is pleasing to their eyes, the tough titties, just find an artist who can look at it and find it pleasing to look at. Why is it that beauty is in the eye of the hold except when someone wants something they like personally depicted??
@MikayaAkyo
@MikayaAkyo 7 ай бұрын
My realization recently was that i have only OCs that either come from a fictional place, or they come from Asia, Europe or America. I HAD an Indian and an African OC once, but i was like 16 and naive. The Backlash because they were not appropriate to the culture of these places made me drop them and then never touch these cultures again. I predominantly create Japanese OCs now with many others being Scottish, Irish or Welsh. Why? Positive reception from people that know those cultures and such. Not "OMG you're racist, this isn't appropriate for our culture" but "Hey, this isn't really how things should be, maybe something like this?" Except the Scottish. They seem to 100% embrace the Scottish Stereotype to the point where my initially planned to be silent and indifferent Scottish Vampire Huntress became a permanently annoyed and barely understandable bundle of scottish rage xD EDIT: And no this isn't Beef with African or Indian people. I'm just not mentally in a mode where i'm able to deal with that kind of experience. And i've met a lot of Indian and African people who when i tell them my reasoning say "Oh, yeah that's valid. There might come a time" Will it? Maybe Will it come soon? Prooobably not.
@shirochii
@shirochii 7 ай бұрын
So you're telling me I missed out on Yuki's free dark skinned art offer? (fell to my knees in defeat) ☹ Big L on me aside, you voiced my opinion exactly. Broadening your skills with other colors and cultures is always recommended and encouraged, but it is not required.
@Ciel_Low
@Ciel_Low 7 ай бұрын
I'm a black artist and I absolutely believe that you should not be forced to make art depicting people of a specific race or skin color. I have to admit that I absolutely struggle with curly hair, especially because I've not been practicing as much as I should've. It's absolutely not required to draw things if you don't feel as if you'll accurately portray them, represent as well as you'd wish to, generally don't feel comfortable enough trying to draw them at the current moment, or other miscellaneous reasons among those lines just as long as you do it in a respectful manner.
@-themysterygirl4757
@-themysterygirl4757 6 ай бұрын
I draw characters and sometimes I want to draw black characters. I remember the first time I gave it a try and it was difficult to get it right, no matter what I did, she “didn’t look black” to my friend. It was frustrating but I wanted to do so thats why I tried. I feel like, if someone doesn’t want to try, that just how it is. Sometimes its cause it’s difficult and a struggle for people and they don’t see it as worth it, others are too scared of messing up, and some people simply aren’t interested in that. You can’t force people to make things you want. You can make it yourself if you want, but no one should be forced to do something you want just cause you want it. They have to want it. Maybe give them suggestions and encourage them to want to, but don’t expect anything. There are always people out there willing to try or are already doing it, so go to them and support them as well!
@6annibalize
@6annibalize 7 ай бұрын
My personal opinion is adding diversity is only important if you want to go into character designing/professional work, but even then it isn't a big deal, its honestly how ppl react to getting asked y they don't that's sometimes an issue (like "oh I don't draw poc bc they're ugly" or something like that)
@sillyseally9355
@sillyseally9355 6 ай бұрын
this also reminds me of the Koleen situation a bit, i agree she just said the wrong thing at the wrong time but people said she needs to repent by learning about black people and how to draw them?? as someone who draws anime and also a past furry who's now finally happy with my art style getting forced into making something i feel uncomfortable with just disgusts me, at this point i'm straight up terrified to try and draw people of color for many reasons and it got me to be just so icky just trying, my art is very self indulgent and i try to keep it as a hobby as much as possible which people asking me to draw black or different body types is very scary to me since personally i'm not attracted to both of those things. I feel like artists are expected to just be versed in the past of black people before starting to draw them at this point.. i feel like a lot of especially learning artists get flack for that and learning to learn anatomy and the way different muscle grouping works like.. i'm here to draw not have an anatomy or history lesson mate
@Lazzuuu
@Lazzuuu 7 ай бұрын
I think its totally fine to not draw everything! I dont agree with the people saying that artists should just learn to draw poc or different body types. Learning how to draw stuff can be more difficult for some than others. And anyway, artists should only learn to draw something that they'll actually use. If they only want to draw one certain thing, learning how to draw other things is basically useless. However I do think it's kinda weird to just draw people with one type of skin color and body type😭 Personally, I really like the idea of having like a zillion OCs all with their own lives and stuff, so I want to be able to draw as many different types of people as I can!:33
@TheXylerz
@TheXylerz 7 ай бұрын
wow I didn't expect that dark cloud music to hit me right in my childhood
@23boo
@23boo 6 ай бұрын
Poc artist here (black/white mix) First of all it’s not racist to not draw poc characters,the only time it starts getting weird is when people try and say stuff like “dark skin/plus sized people doesn’t fit my aesthetic” that’s when it’s starts to get into the racist territory It’s ok if you don’t draw poc characters/plus sized,I tend to stay in my comfort zone when I just wanna relax. But it starts to become weird when people only don’t wanna draw them cuz they don’t fit their “aesthetic” which is also a problem that happens when it comes to jfashion where pocs aren’t seen as aesthetic with pastel art styles/cute ones Sorry for the ramble but ya,I can see why people get weird when artists refuse to draw pocs/plus sized ones
@LunaCrescentMoon7309
@LunaCrescentMoon7309 6 ай бұрын
I know I'm not only late to the party, cause I forgot to sub a few years ago (gonna fix that now dw lol), but also my story here doesn't 100% apply... But this interaction I had with my mum instantly came to my head, and I thought I would share it. I made one darker skinned OC, not public yet cause I want to fully redesign him first with outfit and ref sheet, and cause of the pose and expression I gave him, my mum suggested he be a villain in the story we're working on. I remember saying "Um, no, for my first darker skinned OC? I am not gonna get blasted online for making my first, not only, dark OC a villain for the story." And she said "Oh right, fair enough knowing the internet." It just... this scenario kept reminding me of that conversation cause I got scared of doing an idea my mum had for the story we both are working on. I have always been scared of making darker skinned OCs simply because of internet backlash. Thank you so much for covering this topic and explaining that it's okay to have boundaries on what people are comfortable with drawing. I am constantly scared to make darker OCs because, well, I'm not darker skinned and don't really know if I could portray them. But I want to make diverse OCs. And really, what's the true difference? People are people, there should never be fear online of making different skin toned OCs. And no, I'm not saying people of different races have no issues, obviously issues exist that are different for other people. But everyone has struggles of SOME variety. I'm just saying it shouldn't be a reason to fear making OCs of a certain type. Want to end this comment by saying I've been a fan of you for a long while now, Yukibunns, and thank you again for all the amazing content you put a lot of work into. Love the art, and your discussions of topics.
@Nevae_696
@Nevae_696 7 ай бұрын
So basically don’t ask a plumber to fix your tv
@senink
@senink 6 ай бұрын
I try to keep my art open to almost anything however you have a point about drawing what your confident in for commissions. I wish I heard this sooner. But I’ll definitely make changes to my store because of this advice. I love being able to draw anything I like but sometimes the learning curve is very difficult for me to comprehend. Other artists with learning disabilities can relate, it makes it hard to find a way that works for you to learn what you want. But we gotta remember we do not need to except the pressure from society to learn things we aren’t passionate about.
@aurelian943
@aurelian943 6 ай бұрын
In my opinion, as long as an artist isnt doing it purely for their hatred of people of certain sizes, and skin colors, theyre free to do as they wish. as soon as it becomes malicious then its a problem. imo
@DARK_LOTUSSSS
@DARK_LOTUSSSS 7 ай бұрын
it's racist to change a characters skin color and race just bc you say it looks better, no matter what skin color and race they are, you can cosplay a character even if they arent their race or gender, and you dont have to draw or learn how to draw smt you dont want to
@foxspeckle
@foxspeckle 3 ай бұрын
Oh my gosh I'm so happy you're using my commission for your videos 🥺 (the purple haired girl, still have it hanging in my room 💕)
@ItzEclipsed
@ItzEclipsed 6 ай бұрын
I’m so glad that some people actually have brain cells left and can understand what people mean and knows that the reason can change the entire meaning of the art. Thank you for informing people and educating others😌
@SaSa-eg8lm
@SaSa-eg8lm 7 ай бұрын
Ur explanation is amazingly good and I totally agree My opinion:not every art is good art but if the person is happy about it but if they're proud of it they are an artist and u can't change they're opinion it's rude and happy to tell and I totally agree with ur words
@RawrFizzy
@RawrFizzy 7 ай бұрын
Ugh, sick of TT and Xitter gatekeeping what artists do. That's the whole point of curated feeds. 🙃
@skellyaceart
@skellyaceart 6 ай бұрын
As an artist myself, I feel that trying to force people to try to learn to draw something when they don't think they're ready or comfortable drawing said thing will do the opposite effect. They'll end up not wanting to go out of their comfort zone. Some people don't realize that pressuring someone won't magically make them compliant with going out of their comfort zone, especially if they do so rudely.
@flameofthegame
@flameofthegame 6 ай бұрын
As someone who just starting pursuing art ,i feel like having a preference in what you draw is pretty normal ,the same way some artists only draw girls or boys or idk monsters .
@canthandlenohandle
@canthandlenohandle 6 ай бұрын
As a poc, I don't think ANYONE should be forced to draw something they don't want to. Artistic expression is a deeply personal and subjective process, and individuals, REGARDLESS of their background, should have the freedom to choose their subjects without feeling pressured. I think when it comes to talking about racism and art, it's important to focus on the impact of what you create rather than just trying to label yourself as a "good" or "bad" person. It's not a simple "racist" or "not racist" thing; it's more about understanding how your art might affect people. Sometimes, without even realizing it, we might have biases that show up in our art- & that's okay, learning about different ethnic features is an ongoing process. You shouldn't feel pressured to draw things you're not comfortable with, but it's a good idea to think about why you make certain artistic choices. I've seen too many artists try to draw a black character, not like it, then swear off it forever. Avoiding drawing black folks just to dodge the "racist" label feels kinda misguided to me. Like yeah, it's good to be respectful in your art, but there's a line between doing it right and using that as an excuse not to do it at all. It's like saying you won't talk to black people IRL to avoid accidentally offending them. Intent might be to steer clear of trouble, but the outcome is that you've perpetuated the same exclusion that you're trying to avoid. Next thing you know, you've got an echo chamber of people patting themselves on the back thinking, "I'm so anti-racist, I don't even draw people of color 😌." Are Twitter people insane weirdos trying to cancel anyone who breathes wierdly? Heck yeah. Is there something to be learned from the underlying convo? Maybe. At the end of the day, it's not about avoiding trouble; it's about expressing yourself & creating a better artistic space for everyone. So, draw what you love, learn from mistakes, and let your art be a reflection of growth, not avoidance. 🎨✨
@triplehearts914
@triplehearts914 7 ай бұрын
off topic but the art of the girl on the left in the thumbnail is really cute! She looks like my niece!!
@Yukibunns
@Yukibunns 7 ай бұрын
I’m glad you like it 🤍 it’s a piece I did a few years back that was space themed!
@suzygirl1843
@suzygirl1843 6 ай бұрын
@@Yukibunns Listen, you have whites complaining about representation in South Africa. Is it racist that most Africans want to watch content that's in their own language?
@Yukibunns
@Yukibunns 6 ай бұрын
@@suzygirl1843I don’t think so! I think the Africans are justified!
@suzygirl1843
@suzygirl1843 6 ай бұрын
@@Yukibunns We can make and CONTROL our own Manga and art. So we can profit off of it and not have a white person own our favourite I.P like Black Panther. Did you know we haven't gotten MLK movies or TV series because Spielberg owns all his speeches??? We don't get to see our favourite black characters because whites are holding them and not allowing them to shine until there's intense demand for diversity movements like #Oscar'ssoblack or black girls rock.
@suzygirl1843
@suzygirl1843 6 ай бұрын
@@Yukibunns I'm an architect, you're an artist, I see. Let's start a network of professionals who would like to start a club of anime enthusiasts and market black Manga, okay?
@SatomiSnake
@SatomiSnake 6 ай бұрын
TYSM :sob: this is so important for me to hear ive heard so much of those things and ive felt pressured to change my at cuz of this kinda stuff
@Sage_The_Cat0
@Sage_The_Cat0 7 ай бұрын
I draw non human things (blobs and animals) i try to draw humans but getting proportions right is difficult so i tend to stay far away from them. And then theres the artist who think artists need to be able to draw everything and i get scared to even share any bit of progress on a human character especially one that i try to make a different race or ethnicity. I mainly stick to my animals and blobs now occasionally dabbling with humanoid characters. And it makes me happy.
@TotallyGhostJojo
@TotallyGhostJojo 7 ай бұрын
If you deny a person a commision due to the oc being obese/fat, i see multiple reasons as to why. I myself am not comfortable drawing plus sized people for commissions because i dont usually draw them therefore lack the skills to give you the quality piece of work you deserve. If it's really that important that i specifically draw this oc, then MAYBE i can lower the price so you arent paying full price for something im not qualified for.
@Rustclaw
@Rustclaw 6 ай бұрын
If someone’s avoiding drawing black or bigger people because they don’t feel they can do the character justice, then that’s perfectly fine Sure, practice could help with drawing more body shapes, but that is not necessary to be not be racist If the person is not doing becuase they find that black and/or fat people are disgusting, that is racist/fatphobic But if they are not saying that, then leave them alone (Coming from a bigger person who still struggles at drawing bigger body sizes)
@sunnysideclown
@sunnysideclown 6 ай бұрын
this is probably an unpopular opinion, but for me if there is no willingness to learn at all, then that's just kind of weird to me 😭like, it's one thing with not being confident in your skills in drawing certain types of people, that's fine and dandy, but just outright refusing to learn at all is so strange to me. like. why are you so adamant on not drawing black people??? i dont know if this even makes any sense, but that's just me lmao. people can draw what they want, sure, but that doesnt mean i wont raise an eyebrow at that sort of thing
@Tojiswetblanket
@Tojiswetblanket 2 ай бұрын
I agree
@Lydiasander
@Lydiasander 6 ай бұрын
This basically: Client: draw my oc Artist: idk how Client: how dare you!😡
@HHHHammer
@HHHHammer 6 ай бұрын
I personally think pll should get better on things that they wanna get better on not what others want to.. bc when it comes to art it’s about expressing YOUR interests not others
@Moogsymug
@Moogsymug 7 ай бұрын
i agree, artists should not be preshered into learning things as it would make them not want to. plus its easy to ignore art you dont like and just move on (not to sound rude ;w;)
@TeaStochl
@TeaStochl 6 ай бұрын
but you cant say you are a proffesional if you only draw skinny white or asian people
@Moogsymug
@Moogsymug 6 ай бұрын
@@TeaStochl you can still be an artist tho- plus who cares if you cant be a "proffesional" not everyone wants to be one arts just ment to be fun. plus profesionals can specilise in one sertint thing-
@TeaStochl
@TeaStochl 6 ай бұрын
@@Moogsymug okay i dont give a fuck if you teach people and say this is how to do art then you have to do a variety if you only do it for you you dont have to so jus shut the fuck up and admit you hate drawing poc, or plus size charachters
@Kaileighblue
@Kaileighblue 6 ай бұрын
The anime style art community sounds exhausting.
@Dryworms
@Dryworms 6 ай бұрын
nooooo i missed the free opportunity for a tuber model 😭😭😭 just found you subbing now once i can spare some monies
@Runzi333
@Runzi333 7 ай бұрын
Yeah you can't force people to create work they don't want to or just aren't comfortable doing. I think more artists should push themselves to widen their visual library since there are so so so many free ways to do that but you can lead a horse to water but can't make them drink. I think there are plenty of people being outwardly racist or sexist or homophobic etc so trying to like find ways random others are somehow secretly racist or whatever is just stupid. I've drawn a wide range of characters but I'd feel bad taking a commission for a very dark skin tone just because it wouldn't be the same quality as my other work. I definitely need to practice a wider range of characters myself and I know how time consuming and difficult that is for most people. I think instead of just being mad at others more people need to spend that time and energy on solutions like your skin tone tutorial, uplifting poc creators, or making/commissioning more art of diverse characters. Being mad at randos won't be solving the issues so it's just not going to be all that useful.
@ayatotaylor6169
@ayatotaylor6169 7 ай бұрын
I just don't try or bother to commission or try to interact with people's art acc that can't draw or color certain ethnic groups features or animals I don't feel like an artist has to learn everything but also I want to point out the fact that some use excuses like black people just don't suit my style or x y and z excuses that seem to be more narcissistic and belittling I don't think anything of it when an artist can't draw a specific race or specific size it's mainly how they explain themselves more than the action itself, as an artist myself I personally like to make characters of color and plus size and all that other type of stuff stuff that I would generally want to enjoy or consume that media for me the problem is is that some people it isn't really the artist but it's the fact that some people don't know when to take no front answer and I think that's something people in the air Community whether it be artist or Commissioners people that are trying to buy art I should be able to handle that even outside of the internet when you're at a workplace you have the right to deny service
@ran2910
@ran2910 7 ай бұрын
As a poc, I just think refusing to draw poc, different body types etc is a little weird ngl 😭 like obviously people can do what they want but it’s better to practice drawing things you’re unfamiliar with at your own pace rather than refusing to do so outright
@Lazzuuu
@Lazzuuu 7 ай бұрын
I mean, there are some people that are fine with their current skills and what they draw. If they dont have any desire to draw poc or different body types, or just to try out anything new in general, they don't really have any reason to learn:(
@ran2910
@ran2910 7 ай бұрын
@@Lazzuuu I mean I guess but I don’t know why you’d limit yourself like that? like your art is bound to be stagnant if all you draw are people with the exact same skintone, body type and facial features
@GoAwayImHiding
@GoAwayImHiding 7 ай бұрын
@@ran2910most people draw what they like, I draw furries for example. A lot of art is very self indulgent, some people provide commissions on the side to make some extra money, some do it as their full time job. I don’t really see an issue with somebody declining a commission if they cannot accurately portray a character, like some people straight up won’t draw anything other than busts. And that’s fine, bc art should be fun, and if that’s what the artist enjoys i don’t see an issue. Not everybody wants to strive for improvement, esp if it’s just for personal enjoyment
@Lozer832
@Lozer832 6 ай бұрын
I honestly feel like it’s just the comfort of what the artist has. Some might be learning how to draw certain characteristics and body types and just aren’t comfortable taking a commission about said characteristic if they feel like it’s not up to a standard they feel is acceptable to the commissioner - like me, I struggle heavily with black hair and chubbier body. I myself am chubby with a semi curly hair style yet I barely know how to draw my own body type correctly. I personally don’t find it weird at all but I can see 100% why you would! Though, also I wouldn’t want to take on a drawing knowing I could’ve done way better down the line once I’m better at drawing the characteristic the commissioner wanted in the first place and maybe end up getting demotivated or “bashed” in a way. If that makes any sense lol
@Icommitwarcrimestoo
@Icommitwarcrimestoo 6 ай бұрын
People like drawing what they enjoy, if someone doesnt enjoy getting out of their comfort zone and drawing something completely different, when making art for themselves or anyone else, nobody should force them to do so, for most people art is a hobby and its meant to be fun, if for someone drawing poc characters isnt fun, if they genuinely dont enjoy it why bother them about it? I dont enjoy drawing men does that mean Im sexist?
@moeismynickname
@moeismynickname 6 ай бұрын
I am mix race, white, black, and Indigenous Islander, where I am also Hispanic (not saying this is a race before I get attack just saying this is who I am), as well on the chubby side, I say its more "recent" (a few years) for me to draw the not stereotype skinny anime girl. I started to now draw different body types, races and heck yes genders as I use to only ever draw females (i still prefer to draw women but I now can draw males too). I'll say I started to do this because I wanted to, but their been times when I was forced to draw things I didn't want to do, where sometimes I do end up liking the work but for the most part I just have the mindset I do it with a work mindset. But I will inform those when getting commissions of what I can do vs what I cannot do for example if someone is looking for a whole fully rendered animation done, I will tell the client I cannot animated but I can storyboard which are two different skills in itself. Sometimes its not because the artist is being the R word, its because maybe the artist isn't able to do it with the skills they have of now.
@thelingeringartist
@thelingeringartist 6 ай бұрын
I wish the people commenting calling themselves POC would specify instead what kind of POC they are. I feel like a lot of light-skinned people (both black and non-black, biracial, etc) or non-American black people are going to carry different opinions that may or may not align more with their inherent treatment growing up in a racist world. I would love to hear from any dark-skinned poc here for their opinions on this subject matter. I say this because I, as a lightskin black person, have ALWAYS drawn black features and people in my art of all backgrounds without a second thought. But I have met many other lightskin or mixed black artists who gravitate towards the opposite end…I really wonder if it’s a privilege thing or what…
@blackrosejinx5563
@blackrosejinx5563 6 ай бұрын
When it comes to hobbies, I think you don’t need to learn to draw everything. It’s a hobby, sometimes things are just for fun and that’s okay. Professionalism is a different story. Listen, you can set whatever boundaries you want for commissions, but I think if you ever even hope to draw professionally you kinda have to. Not only because you’ll be getting customers that get miffed about it, but also because you’ll be limiting yourself by A LOT, which also limits the amount of customers that’ll come to you for commissions. This topic is pretty grey, and I understand both sides. But please, PLEASE don’t try and force out the art, it will end up looking like smth from a seventies cartoon.
@zakuraiyadesu
@zakuraiyadesu 7 ай бұрын
Love the videos, man. Keep it up!!!
@crownanx2700
@crownanx2700 6 ай бұрын
im a somewhat starter artist and i mainly draw people of color. i tend to stick to my own skin than going darker or lighter, due to the fact im not really completely comfortable with doing either yet. im trying to branch out a bit but struggling. also is that offer for free black oc model still up?
@OnitaFreeze
@OnitaFreeze 6 ай бұрын
Many many people forget that INTENTION makes a huge difference. Only if an artist is intentionally refusing to draw any other race or body type of character to push an agenda does that make them racist. If a person cannot or just does not enjoy drawing them in their style that DOES NOT MAKE THEM RACIST. That just comes with practice. Intention is what makes someones choices or actions harmful
@ak47chan20
@ak47chan20 6 ай бұрын
I feel like when its for your own personal fun sure draw whatever you are confortable with, but when you are getting payed to draw certain characteristics if you say no thats not ok at all, sure a lot of art tutorials and "how to draw " vids cater more to the beauty canons of the world (those being white, skinny simetrical faces, y'know) so its hard for newer artist to do them out of reference only since its a harder skill to harness, but it is still not excusable, you can practice it.
@L3mon_ade
@L3mon_ade 6 ай бұрын
, i was drawing my oc (my oc is white and I'm black) and some random girl got mad at me for being racist I don't know this person and she was criticizing me, (and yes i do have black ocs)
@user-wl4yt1dn6z
@user-wl4yt1dn6z 7 ай бұрын
No excuses needed, just draw whatever you want. Personally I just draw anime waifus who are white or asian, sorry for having preferences I guess
@Hatsune-Miku_Fan
@Hatsune-Miku_Fan 7 ай бұрын
Unrelated: Your model is awesome
@CrimeCommitter9000
@CrimeCommitter9000 6 ай бұрын
I personally think that if you’re taking comms, you shouldn’t reject a comm if the character has traits you can’t/won’t draw, and that you should draw the character as close to the original body type/ skin color as you can. As for drawings that aren’t comms, literally draw anything you want. You aren’t obligated to draw anything.
@mastertofu
@mastertofu 6 ай бұрын
I'm a POC and I don't even draw my own race very often at all. I draw far more White and Black people. I don't think an artist should draw what they don't want to. I draw average to skinny girls not because I don't like fat people, it's just something I don't like to draw. I can if I want to, like when I'm doing fan art of fat characters, but it's just not something I want to spend hours on. It's the same thing as art style, level of detail, adding backgrounds, etc wherein the artist has the right to decide what they want and don't want to draw because they're the artist and unless you pay up, you're not entitled to anything.
@justanotherwolf9222
@justanotherwolf9222 6 ай бұрын
Imo, it's not that hard to try drawing different skin tones. Different bodies and features are a bit harder, but anyone can practice, its just a matter of wanting to. You really can even use an eye dropper tool for skintones if you're inexperienced. No one has to draw anything they don't want though. Honestly, I'd rather someone use an ai as a reference so people can learn, it'd make them a stronger artist. Commission discrimination is common in some spaces, especially anime or vtubers, so I can understand why some Twitter people are critical, though it may be excessive. But, at the end of the day, anyone can draw what they want.
@_CorruptCXndy_
@_CorruptCXndy_ 7 ай бұрын
Yuki’s opinions>>>
@AirAkred
@AirAkred 6 ай бұрын
I find it really difficult to draw plus size, because the way I draw is that more on the skinny anime style but I can do curvey or big boobas 😂. But practicing for more to the big size but not extreme as personally that goes in that kink territory
@Endermage1244
@Endermage1244 6 ай бұрын
I turned down commissions or gave a discount when doing something I'm not confident with. At a time, I wasn't confident in furry art, different races, masculine bodies, etc... with time, I got to a point where I'll sell it, but at first no, I won't sell a bad product.
@sodoffbaldrick
@sodoffbaldrick 6 ай бұрын
3:15 I'm sorry, what? It is in fact harder to draw chubby/old people. Excess fat and skin folds require more skills, time, and effort
@fan_of_big_penises
@fan_of_big_penises 7 ай бұрын
DID NOT EXPECT TO SEE BUNKINS HERE?? i remember when they were a small artist on toyhouse, theyre always getting into trouble
@Yukibunns
@Yukibunns 7 ай бұрын
W-who? 😭💦
@Yuki_heartsLOL
@Yuki_heartsLOL 2 күн бұрын
Art community has drama everyday I feel like-
@skootergirl22
@skootergirl22 6 ай бұрын
I'm a fat artist, but I prefer drawing thin people, although not many people draw disabled characters
@LilxPepto
@LilxPepto 6 ай бұрын
i think people can draw whatever they'd like, if they dont want to learn things they shouldnt be forced to
@littlelotus4572
@littlelotus4572 6 ай бұрын
Ngl me over here draws a range of women with different nationalities and all that cause I just specialize in that but bro I just can’t draw super dark people cause I like working with markers and the peeps in the world who are so dark are just extremely hard close to impossible to draw with ink because they just end up looking like a black blob, props to anyone who can pull it off but I am a hobby artist and am not willing to invest is those dark colors that I will never use
@l4zylady
@l4zylady 6 ай бұрын
this is so off topic but is your intro music the main soundtrack from dark cloud??
@Yukibunns
@Yukibunns 6 ай бұрын
yes! Cred for music is always in desc
@CABLEG0RE
@CABLEG0RE 7 ай бұрын
Is that the Dark Cloud OST?? Other people actually have heard of that game??
@pumpkibee
@pumpkibee 6 ай бұрын
admittedly i haven't gotten far yet, about 4:00 ish minutes in so idk your opinions/thoughts yet, yukibunns, but already i think konnie is wrong- if i am doing commission *paid* work, i will tell someone if i do not feel confident in drawing their OC if their body type is something i don't think i will draw well. i will do so for buff characters as well as characters depending on their fatness. if i am not confident in *being paid to draw this character* i have every right to tell you so, and warn you that i am not experienced or confident in making it look good. konnie said it themself "learn how to draw it" like okay, then let me reject you without being called fatphobic so i *can* learn before being paid for something i haven't learned how to draw yet. "if you deny a commission because theyre fat, youre fatphobic" no, dude, i just don't want you to waste money on a commission you won't like. (this doesn't apply to me since i have been learning how to draw buff and fatter bodies and am more confident in them now, but i am using "i" as an easy placeholder in the sentiment lol) some artists are simply hobbyists as well and are not required to learn to draw all kinds of characters if all they do is create what they know, create from experience, create from their own life. they aren't obligated to change their styles for other people, or step out of their comfort zone just because twitter user number 67 told them "you're Xist or Xphobic if you don't learn Y for your art" it's like bro, no.. lots of people draw based on personal experiences or art for them is self-indulgent, or all their characters are representations of themself. for example, if i am not (insert skin colour or weight class here) i might not draw characters of that skin colour or weight class because i am drawing stuff that is pulled from myself.
@pumpkibee
@pumpkibee 6 ай бұрын
hearing your opinion so far i completely agree. people can be scared out of drawing more diversely if they hear people being mean about it. in my opinion, like i said before some people are just hobbyists. they are under no obligation to improve if that is not what they want out of art. i'm not saying they should never improve, no, but not everyone is constantly wanting to improve, push their boundaries, get better at drawing things theyre not good at yet. if they ever want to start improving, they'll look for resources to do so. but trying to demand people improve at a rate they're not ready to is.. well.. most likely gonna make more people quit because it feels like a chore and they're not having fun anymore.
@bellabean10
@bellabean10 7 ай бұрын
I MISSED YOU SO MUCH 🥺🥺
@zereenbhuiyan9402
@zereenbhuiyan9402 6 ай бұрын
yall I think I might be racist cause I can't color and shade dark skin properly and I don't wanna be called racist for not being able to 😭
@tormentandjustice
@tormentandjustice 6 ай бұрын
something that annoys me is when people bash beginner artists such as myself for not knowing how to draw certain things
@ToxVT
@ToxVT 7 ай бұрын
no cause isnt it better if they turn down the commission if they cant draw the thing you want them to draw anyway? :,D not getting a character bodytype changed at least
@kyraarts
@kyraarts 7 ай бұрын
completely refusing to draw POC is problematic. There are so many resources these days for references, that there are no excuses. If you can learn to draw a skinny white/asian person, u can learn to draw bigger, darker people. Drawing fatter people is a little more difficult becuase there are very little accurate references, but they still exist. Drawing black people can be as easy as using the color brown as not all black people have typical blk features. Again, there's no excuse. If you prefer drawing certain people that's fine. As a blk artist, I prefer drawing blk characters. However, If a person commissioned me to draw anyone else, I would. Because I'm not weird. I've never drawn a hiijabi before yet if I was commissioned rn to draw one, I would take the time to learn. Not completely refuse to and intentionally exclude that group. Learning to draw different people Is not hard. Like another commenter said, it's like refusing to draw hands because you don't know how. It'll only make u a better artist if you learn eventually
@goodboyadventuress
@goodboyadventuress 7 ай бұрын
thank you!! i totally agree with you. Literally its not hard and its good to expand your knowledge if you're doing art for work. Its okay to have preferences but telling someone you wont take their commission because "i dont wanna draw black people" seems... not great.
@retroserva1
@retroserva1 7 ай бұрын
This is real facts
@shadowedrecords846
@shadowedrecords846 6 ай бұрын
Exactly! I couldn't care less what "race" or things people prefer to draw. But using "not being able to draw black people" or "I can't draw textures beyond 1b" as an excuse like they are some sort of very different alien race gives me such an ick. Yes I think most artists were taught to draw Caucasian features by default or "animumu" people but it becomes hypocritical and very telling and hypocritical f people are breaking their backs and wrists to learn the fundamentals like anatomy but suddenly if it's about changing 'features' like skin tone, hair type it's ImPosSiBle. Just admit you don't want to draw black/brown people because it's not desirable to you and be done with it. Most people outside twitter couldn't care less anyways.
@Absbor
@Absbor 6 ай бұрын
I like your video. "draw what you want" is correct.
@CertifiedHaunted
@CertifiedHaunted 6 ай бұрын
I didn't graduate from Yappinton University. Can someone give me a summary of this video plz
@TaoT-T
@TaoT-T 6 ай бұрын
"If you deny to do a commission for someone because their character is plus sized, you're fatphobic." Is a horrible take. Not every artist knows how to properly draw plus sized people and make them look at appealing to a customer. This is one of the multiple reasons they might reject a commission like that. Same thing goes for different ethnicities, they might not be well versed in drawing different races and don't wanna f up the commission. I personally have no experience drawing plus sized people because I've been focusing on honing my still life drawings as well as shading and lighting.
@d.3521
@d.3521 5 ай бұрын
Oh, I remember the Tweet to this On Twitter you got egged a lot for this but i think its fine
@OnitaFreeze
@OnitaFreeze 6 ай бұрын
Also hey Yuki you still trying to get that free POC vtuber model orz //shot
@Yukibunns
@Yukibunns 6 ай бұрын
Ughhh I wish but my situation has changed 😭😭 if I get some free time maybe I’ll consider a giveaway!
@shadowedrecords846
@shadowedrecords846 6 ай бұрын
Dark cloud opening ost :)
@Nox.x_ART
@Nox.x_ART 7 ай бұрын
I’M EARLY RAAHHHH🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥‼️‼️‼️
@table2.0
@table2.0 5 ай бұрын
Twitter user: if you refuse to draw heavy people, you are fatphobic! Also Twitter user: I don’t draw humans, but- Oh, so you have a preference for what you draw and a specific skill set linked to what you draw and would struggle to draw a human if asked and thus wouldn’t accept human designs for commissions? Huh! It’s almost like some artists don’t know how to properly draw certain characteristics and thus would refuse the commission to draw them., huh. People can also just not want to draw something because it doesn’t vibe with them for any number of reasons, so unless there’s evidence that the creator is racist or makes an unnecessary remark about the attractiveness or worth of the character in question based on their body/skin, then there is no proof it’s racist
@autumnleafhaiku9521
@autumnleafhaiku9521 3 ай бұрын
i mainly draw white skinny girls and my internet "friends" tell me its wrong and i keep telling them im just drawing people like me. Its so hard for me to draw literally men nevermind a diff race like :( i try and im trying but im scared of branching out and getting called fatphobic or racist based of the drawings i end up doing
@hahahe767
@hahahe767 7 ай бұрын
i dont get why its ok for these people to refuse very muscly characters but its not ok to refuse other body types.
@angeliquebacker8522
@angeliquebacker8522 7 ай бұрын
I’ll try to draw all types of characters because that reflects the world around me. I generally really love to draw darker skinned woc, with deep browns, tans and olives. I just love the way the browns and tans look next to black hair and golden fabrics. I love girls (and guys) with glasses too. (Black and Desi girls look so fire in glasses! 😍😍) I will draw Korean guys, guys with green eyes, middle eastern guys, south Asian, guys, redheads, etc. the list goes on. If someone doesn’t have that kind of diversity in their artwork, it is 100% their choice, but I am still in my right to criticize it and call it boring. If I like part of it, I will take the idea and improve on it by creating my own with brown skin tones. 🙂
@theo6840
@theo6840 7 ай бұрын
It's not relevant, but the use of Dark Cloud music is awesome
@Yukibunns
@Yukibunns 7 ай бұрын
I love the sound track so much 😭😭😭
@blazeazuki618
@blazeazuki618 7 ай бұрын
Hey yukibuns
@jewboo3118
@jewboo3118 6 ай бұрын
I think we need to address the fact that eurocentric features are treated as the norm in art (and society in general). Most people, myself (a black woman) included, first start their art journey learning how to draw people with eurocentric features. Hell even the typical guidlines for a face that most artists use is based on European features. Knowing this, I totally get why many beginner and casual artists have little to no experience drawing POC features, especially non POC and to some extent even EA artists. You're so used to drawing european features that it becomes your "norm". Especially online where the art community is, let's face it, mostly yt (or EA nowadays) so there isn't really a push to leave your comfort zone unless a tweet about inclusivity in art goes viral. That being said, if you draw as a hobby then you do NOT have to draw every race or body type of person. Drawing is comfort for you, not a job, so it's your business. As long as you don't cry that they don't "fit your aesthetic" or "you don't find them attractive" or whatever bs excuse people say, idc. When you make art your JOB or you do tutorials and shit with the title of 'professional artist' I think you have a responsibility to at least know HOW to draw different features, even if you don't draw them often. you can't be comfortable not expanding your JOB SKILLS imo. Also, to some degree, it pisses me off when i hear ppl whine about how "drawing POC is too hard" or "idk how" because there are tutorials out there that you can DROWN in. If not having the skills to draw them bothers you so much that you whine about it, then DO SOMETHING to learn. P.S in a western context, a black person or other POC solely drawing their own race is less likely to have malicious intent than white people that ONLY draw white people due to historical racist bias. OFC not all white artists are racist in that regard, but considering history and society in general, I don't blame people who sideeye them imo.
@skepticalpanda8862
@skepticalpanda8862 6 ай бұрын
Yay more conversations about this that ignore that the issue is that most artists see white as the "default". But whatever it's fine. No one should EVER have to consider their biases ever.
@eulahater69
@eulahater69 7 ай бұрын
100% tru
@Vycoon_ss
@Vycoon_ss 6 ай бұрын
❤ u brother I feel that you are right I subbed
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