Are These The Most Important Mountain Bikes In History?
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Күн бұрынMountain biking is a relatively new sport, so new in fact a lot of us were alive to see its creation! Since then there have been many technological advancements, the birth of Downhill, XC and loads more disciplines and riding styles. Because of this Anna wanted to take you back in time to take a look at, in her opinion, some of the most iconic mountain bikes ever made.
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0:00 - Welcome To Another GMBN Video!
0:25 - Myles Rockwell | Giant ATX-oneDH
1:19 - Gary Fisher | RS1
2:46 - Mountain Cycle | San Andreas
3:36 - Moots | YBB
4:59 - Jacquie Phelan | Cunningham Otto
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@gmbn 27 күн бұрын
What is the most iconic mountain bike created in your opinion? Let us know in the comments below!
@Peak_Mid 27 күн бұрын
Kona Stinky!
@Jayneflakes 27 күн бұрын
I fell in love with the Trimble Inverted Four, way back in the 90s. It was iconic, made from fibreglass and aluminium and looked wild. Sadly I never owned one, but a girl can dream.
@darrenthompson7764 27 күн бұрын
90’s Yeti’s! Looked awesome, won everything…still want one! For an individual bike, I’d say Tomac’s Ti Raleigh with drop bars & Tioga disc drive. 😮
@BarryDakar 27 күн бұрын
Pace RC100 and RC200, especially with Madura hydraulic brakes. Blew my mind when I saw it in the early 90s - it looked like something from the future. Then, of course, the Mountain Cycles San Andreas landed…
@gmbn 26 күн бұрын
@@Peak_Mid Such an iconic bike! Which year/colour was your favourite?
@cup_and_cone 27 күн бұрын
I won't judge "most important", but I will say the most exciting period of MTB design was without a doubt the mid-to-late 90's when we got wildly new and different designs, and innovation seemed full throttle. That period truly was the kid in a candy store moment for MTBers.
@garethhughes5745 27 күн бұрын
I so wanted a Mountain Cycle San Andreas, absolute iconic bike of its time. I ended up custom building a ProFlex 955, and a bit later, I custom built a replica of Rob Warners Giant ATX with Hope Biggun MkI Disc brakes..., And it took many many years before I finally got an Intense (Tracer), another bike I dreamed of having. Fantastic bikes.
@gmbn 26 күн бұрын
The custom ATX sounds cool! Was the Tracer worth the wait?
@garethhughes5745 26 күн бұрын
@@gmbn Thanks!, the Tracer is outstanding, the suspension is so smooth you can ride over most things without even feeling it. I use it also on long distance and climbing, and its very comfy for that, and doesnt seem to excessively sap energy through bobbing, you can ride all day on that. I did try a Banshee Spitfire at the time too, and was very impressed with that, a total XC weapon that is, and felt very lively, but the tracer could take downhills smoother. I sold the ATX to a friend, he still has it to this day :D
@almartin1087 25 күн бұрын
Same here, loved that bike.
@heywood165 24 күн бұрын
The first MTB magazine I ever bought had a Mountain Cycle San Andreas on the cover, I was instantly blown away by the design after growing up riding rigid mtbs with cable brakes. Everything about the San Andreas was futuristic and special.
@Canyon_Shawn 26 күн бұрын
The founder of Mountain Cycle, Robert Reisinger, a friend of mine, just passed away last week, from a motocross accident. RIP Robert! You will be greatly missed.
@johndef5075 25 күн бұрын
Sorry to hear that.
@samj1185 23 күн бұрын
sad news. 64 yrs old and still racing MX. I'll bet he was a heck of a guy!
@Geeeezmo 27 күн бұрын
The Hakkapeliitta tyres you're talking about were made by Nokian Tyres, which branched off the Nokia conglomerate in 1988. So, technically, it was no longer Nokia that made the tyres.
@chrisridesbicycles 26 күн бұрын
And the mobile phone branch was called Mobira before it was acquired by Nokia.
@Geeeezmo 26 күн бұрын
@@chrisridesbicycles irrelevant but OK 😅
@phfay7 19 күн бұрын
Oh man, the mountain cycle, the conejo, the sling shot, and the litespeed ocoee fs, the manitou!
@tecdesigns8183 27 күн бұрын
San Andreas was the absolute poster bike it was stunning and revolutionary. I still want one....
@ZFit11 27 күн бұрын
I loved my Lawwill Leader fork once Risse Racing was able to tune it. Absolutely plush and never had to worry about the wheelbase changing when hitting bumps, obstacles, etc… at one point I removed the paint, polished the legs, and painted the shock body and links red. 😎👍 The Specialized tires on that San Andreas were some of the stickiest tires I rode back in the day. They were like a gummy compound, and wore so quick! Great video, Anna! 🙌
@MS-pw8yu 27 күн бұрын
The Mantis Flying V needs to find it's way to me as THE bike I lusted after when Mountainbike Action magazine featured it. And I aaaaalmost bought a Trek Y bike from Steel Vintage Bikes in Berlin 5 years ago. Still punching myself as it was in almost perfect condition.
@billderas3420 27 күн бұрын
Wow! Good job Anna. I have been to the Marin Museum of Bicycling multiple times; but, had not paid enough attention to the many details you exposed. If I had to pick one bike that you described, it would be one of Charlie Cunningham's beautiful aluminum race bikes (pre-suspension) because it was simply the best during my mtb cross-country racing years.
@clarklowe5632 27 күн бұрын
I remember Niner started a whole company around the idea of 29" wheels in 2005. I thought they were crazy and it was just a fad.... Hope you are riding some good trails out here while you are visiting.
@misterj2875 25 күн бұрын
I remember back in the day I had a real love for the Pace mountain bike with the square tubes. Sadly it was never meant to be.
@shafiqjan1474 26 күн бұрын
The Fisher RS-1 was a Lawill rear end because the rear dropout was a link with pivots on bottom and top, just like the fork but with longer stays. Just sayin because I worked on more than a few back in the day. Jackie ruled on her Cunnigham and I loved every minute of it. Roller-cam brakes FTW! ❤😂🤘🏻
@CT37BN 27 күн бұрын
Am biased towards the Mountain Cycle San Andreas since I have one which I still use to this day every now and then. The paint is so much of it's timeline, grass green bodywork with red Judy DH forks. Attracts a lot of attention when I ride it here in Oz. I entered and used it on a number of long distance events and works fine, have re-purposed it, updated new parts and eventually try to restore it to it's original form.
@The-Jokes-on-You 24 күн бұрын
So many iconic bikes in the 90's. John Tomac's Raleigh Ti/carbon with tioga disc. Slingshot, Retrotec, Manitou hardtail, Mantis flying-V, Foes, Outlander VPP, etc...
@astronomenov99 20 күн бұрын
John Tomac's Yeti C-26 was the original!
@ykcinasak 27 күн бұрын
Now I know that I am old because I remember all of these
@gmbn 26 күн бұрын
🤣
@01FozzyS 27 күн бұрын
Thanks for featuring our awesome museum in The Bay,Anna! Always great to visit there from time to time. Would love to own a San Andreas but at least I have the next best to it, a Moho CXS.
@dustykatt 11 күн бұрын
The 4 bar linkage on that Gary Fisher bike was invented by a guy names Mert Lawill. Not only known for his amazing engineering skills, but also as the AMA dirt track motorcycle champion of 1969. he was also the star of the movie "On Any Sunday" which followed him around in 1970 as he tried to repeat as champion. Showing him working on the bike.
@lcc8394 27 күн бұрын
maybe the spesh stumpjumper.. the bike that even none bike people have heard of
@sickofthestupid1067 24 күн бұрын
The ski area I worked at used to rent out rock hoppers and stump jumpers back in the early 90s the rock hoppers where fine for taking up the chairlift and ridding down the trails but if you wanted to ride up the mountain the stump jumper was the only way to go
@dirkvanevercooren2164 7 күн бұрын
Such a pity you didn't feature the Ibis Bow Ti in full, it is shown briefly at 3:55, but such out of the box engineering deserves more coverage imo!
@AnnaOnTheBike 2 күн бұрын
I think i could have done four or five versions of this video from that place! 😄
@GHinWI 21 күн бұрын
@5:35…notice the early derailleur clutch there.
@Bonky-wonky 26 күн бұрын
Early-mid 00s bikes deserve a mention as well. Intense M1, Iron Horse Sunday, Trek Session..
@5pz3r0 17 күн бұрын
Had a Mountain Cycle San Andreas BITD it was amazing and took so much abuse, I was fortunate to work in a Bike shop and then a distributors so had some cool parts for cheap as well as some prototypes if only I had them still now.
@eugenekim87 26 күн бұрын
Excited for the footage from the Camp Tamarancho trail down the street from that museum!
@luggnutz 25 күн бұрын
The Mountain Cycles and the Mantis that was in the background were two that I always wanted back in the day. I'd still like to add a Mountain Cycles to my collection. It was an amazing time back in the late 80's and early 90's seeing all the innovation. I was watching a race when one of the riders had a suspension fork, well before they were common place, and it was a project by someone that worked at Shimano, I heard the guy discuss it with a couple people, was probably 90 or 91.
@samj1185 23 күн бұрын
I have one that is on my project list. Looks like it could be a fun project.
@vr4042 27 күн бұрын
I saw the 97 Y Bike back there that Doddy rode a couple of years back.
@alex_mcclay 11 күн бұрын
5:37 that's a huge cassette for back then. I guess that must have been custom made? 36 or 38 tooth maybe 5:54 also look at the state of that front rim lol, this bike was ridden hard
@budddy1 27 күн бұрын
I believe the most influential one being the mountain cycle san andreas is very important. The founder Robert Reisinger recently passed away. Great to see the brand being honored in the museum.
@Greyarcher1 27 күн бұрын
For me it was the Intense M1 that was the Dream,altough never had one but loved my Stinky dee Lux in Rasta color -99 was at the world DH Cup in Åre Sweden, also had the GT STS with that Carbone Frame looked like a' King Cobra,got me a' CannonDale Jekyll with a' Lefty fork weing only 12kg it was like a' Ballerina in the Forest compared to my Stinky, what great times i had 😁
@stevenelliott155 26 күн бұрын
Have to agree. The Intense M1 was my favourite.
@jmjponeill 27 күн бұрын
For me it would have to be the San Andreas, I was in my early teens when I first saw it and it was so far removed from anything I had seen at the time, that even all these years later it is still a dream bike. Brilliant video Anna, keep up the great work.
@AaronCesar-ne6rt 25 күн бұрын
Cannondale should definitely be on this list
@mikeleiby6737 18 сағат бұрын
You should have followed up the Rockwell story with the Cannondale Fulcrum.. Miles went to C-Dale and they scorched the field with the 4000dh…. 🔥
@junka1975 24 күн бұрын
Very cool. 😎 👍
@wilyamiyoo 10 күн бұрын
Damn, while Anna nailed this video - imagine Doddy presenting this with possibly personal accounts himself. We miss you doddy, good job stil Anna!
@AnnaOnTheBike 2 күн бұрын
Yes, he would have been in his element here! Thank you ☺
@theflow5269 27 күн бұрын
The cunningham was (possibly) the first aluminium mountain bike, yes. Aluminium road bikes appeared in France in the 1930s!!
@AnnaOnTheBike 2 күн бұрын
The road cycling section of this museum was a real eye-opener. It's a shame I could only share the best of MTB!
@astronomenov99 20 күн бұрын
Disc braked Lawwill Leader! I want one! I got rid of my Lawwill Leader 3 to switch to disc brakes back in about 2002. Paired with an original Mk1 GT LTS it was awesome! I miss it! I had a Look Fournales fork afterwards as well but ditched that to go to 29er.
@stevenwilliams7845 26 күн бұрын
Awesome good job
@gmbn 25 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@johnnydoe66 24 күн бұрын
I bought a Giant Cadex hardtail in 1993 and six months later a GT RTS 2. The GT full suspension would later go with me to Moab, Utah in 1994 and ride Slick Rock, Gemini Bridges, Half Enchilada, and my favorite....the Portal. The GT RTS 2 may have been a short travel full suspension, but it worked fine. I had also upgraded the fork to a Rockshox Mag 21, which at the time was probably the best during that period.
@FATKEVMTB 25 күн бұрын
Anyone who visits this museum should do the legendary Repack trail, riding distance from the museum.
@frogmaster83 19 күн бұрын
I worked for Marin in the late 90's. I think one of the most important bikes of the time was the Marin B17. It brought downhill bikes to the masses, due to its price.
@markw4377 9 күн бұрын
Mongoose Amplifer 1993 and the Mongoose IBOC Comp SX 1995 and 1996. Mongoose IBOC Comp SX 1995 and 1996 I still have at home, because I like Retro mountainbike stuff from the Old days 🙂
@BlindingSun_ 23 күн бұрын
Gt Rts 1. Giant Atx 1. Specialized Stumpjumper. Gt Zaskar. Mountain Cycle San Andreas. Kirk Revolution. Iron Horse Dh
@georgekrpan3181 20 күн бұрын
I had a San Andreas. It was a thing of beauty.
@Carambal81 27 күн бұрын
I used to have a Mountain Cycle San Andreas, with a 5th Element coil shock in the rear. The suspension was great, but the handling not so, the bottom bracket is located way too high for anything other than riding down. Still love the bike, it still looks great! Wish I didn't sell it years ago...
@gmbn 26 күн бұрын
Do you know where it is now? Maybe you can try and buy it back 🤔
@Carambal81 26 күн бұрын
@@gmbn unfortunately I have no clue, I sold it more than 10 years ago.
@lcc8394 27 күн бұрын
Don't they have Jason McRoy's S-Works there?.......hands down the most important bike for any one from the uk
@gmbn 26 күн бұрын
It was at the Malverns Classic last year, but it might have just been a VERY good replica? - Dan
@lcc8394 26 күн бұрын
@@gmbn nope about 9 or 8 years ago neil and doddy went to Marin and Neil did a bike check video on Jason bike and then a retro vs modern dh video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iZ15q8ynxr-1p2Q.html Jason McRoy's Specialized S-Works FSR - Find Out About A Mountain Biking Legend
@AnnaOnTheBike 2 күн бұрын
@@lcc8394 I don't remember seeing it there. I think they change their stock round a lot, as most of the bikes are actually on loan to the museum.
@GuamBombs 16 күн бұрын
It’s funny to think that no matter how advanced and cool we think bikes, (or anything for that matter) are currently, it’s just a matter of time before another video will be made about the bikes we are currently in awe of and we’ll think, wow I can’t believe that used to be high tech, lol.
@Tony.795 14 күн бұрын
I think the geometry, brakes and suspension are pretty much figured out to be honest. We'll never see those huge changes like in the latter half of the 2010s again. Maybe the drive train will be different sometime but the chassis won't change much.
@hydorah 12 күн бұрын
If you say 'Hence' you don't also need to say 'why'. Hence means 'therefore'... Hence, it does he whole job, by itself 🙂
@Spin_stagrams 26 күн бұрын
I’m lucky to have an ATX DH (with signed Warner and Rockwell jerseys) and a San Andreas. The rarest one I have is a Muddy Fox Intereactive if you’re interested!
@jonamira8334 26 күн бұрын
What about John Tomac and Missy Giove, Tinker Juarez, Julie Futardo. Thank you so much for such an awesome clip down memory lane.
@seankerslake8103 26 күн бұрын
Re: Gary Fisher RS1, aren't they Hopes first mechanical discs with the sq section 2 start thread? I had some of the really early ones which were cast I think?
@joet2463 27 күн бұрын
Mongoose AMP, GT RTS1, Trek V
@brucelaird7076 27 күн бұрын
My 14yr old son has a San Andreas frame built up with a frankenstein mixture of parts. His mother found for $100CDN. LOL
@gmbn 26 күн бұрын
Nice! Even the frame alone has got to be worth a bit to the right buyer! Worth holding on to
@nicholasbergeron8660 27 күн бұрын
I would love to hear more about the dual bottom bracket Cannondale.
@gmbn 26 күн бұрын
Check out this video Jonesy made, it's full of really cool bikes. You can find the Cannondale Fulcrum in part 1, but here's also the part 2 as it's worth a watch! Part 1: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nKpke9aZzJ2XcZs.html Part 2: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oMCRq81_y7HShoE.html
@maxritter7868 27 күн бұрын
Nokia, the phone company, has never manufactured tires. No mtb tires and no car tires. The Nokian Tyres brand is from the same town (Nokia) but otherwise unrelated.
@darrenthompson7764 27 күн бұрын
The HAKKAPELIITTA was made by Nokian, Finnish tyre company, NOT Nokia the phone company!!! 😂 Used to run the massive Nokian 3” tyre on my 90’s downhill bike…game changer!
@jmjponeill 27 күн бұрын
Nokian was a part of Nokia from 1967 to 1990.
@agg25gga 26 күн бұрын
Sorry, you've been out geeked
@tonyjofenig6833 26 күн бұрын
Nokian Gazzaloddi 3.0. I think mine was a 2.7, the 3.0 wouldn't fit into the rear of my hardtail, it was like having a little suspension. A lot of my friends used them as well back in the 90's/early 2000's, but they were hard as a rock and useless on wet wood, so not great for Vancouver riding back then, when everything was wood stunts.
@divisionbreak 15 күн бұрын
1995 GT TEAM LTS (FOX Alps 4 Rear Shock).
@steveprice9737 27 күн бұрын
Some of the "iconic" bikes weren't very good, it was the test bedding of new tech and experimental playing around that created modern bikes. I still race a 94ish Saracen with Pace forks , seriously fast and great handling. Ive seen vids other retro bike owners have made with more exotic old bikes and they've struggled to stay upright 😂 .. 29" wheels are the biggest innovation, we can live with less travel suspension, v brakes or even cantis , dropper posts and electronic gears but being able to roll over boulders and roots has tamed the trails. I raced the Saracen last weekend and it was even with, or faster than the modern bikes except through the rooty sections. Its not just innovation in complete bikes or frames, Rockshock Judys , triple chainsets fitted to mtbs, v brakes shouldn't be overlooked.
@gurkpojken 9 күн бұрын
Dont forget the 3.0 nokian tires for dh..gazzaloddi
@Rose_Butterfly98 18 күн бұрын
Btw you can still get Nokia tires. They split off and are now called Nokian tires
@madtownangler 27 күн бұрын
I always wanted a Yeti but couldnt afford one when i was younger
@gmbn 26 күн бұрын
Did you get one now that you're older?
@madtownangler 26 күн бұрын
@@gmbn no can't ride bikes right now plus I'd feel kinda dumb riding a Yeti on paved bike paths and roads. I just imagine my exercise bike being a real bike.
@paulmurden7621 26 күн бұрын
God I yearned for one of those San Andreas Mountain Cycles!
@gmbn 26 күн бұрын
We still do a bit!
@damonreliga3129 27 күн бұрын
I like how mountain bike took on dirtbike suspension and brakes but why are they almost same price as dirtbike parts,, less engineering, and less material but yet almost same price?
@jmo2752 26 күн бұрын
Economy of scale (there are far fewer MTB components made compared to motorcycle OEM supply) and the fact that technology has to be scaled down to fit the size and weight of a bicycle, while still providing proper braking and suspension performance for increasingly high speeds over rough terrain.
@jamesconroy7030 20 күн бұрын
Steel is an alloy. Any regular metal that has any other substances mixed with it is an alloy.
@Velo1010 25 күн бұрын
All I know is I look at these MTB’s and say to myself, “what were they thinking!” 😂 I’m sure a decade or two from now I’ll say the same about the mountain bikes today.
@MarcoEscalante-iq9vk 24 күн бұрын
Mountain Cycle with all the early models was ahead of everyone else. Now all the bikes looks the same
@rikulaiho6942 12 күн бұрын
PERKELE!! SUOMI MAINITTU!!!
@supervortex8363 16 күн бұрын
was no v breaks until 1997..........
@timmcdowell3097 27 күн бұрын
Muddy fox courier pro
@gaddobronx6740 26 күн бұрын
Im just amazed at the fact that Nokia made tires. Imagine if 29ers caught on in the 90's, then probably WTB wound be like Maxxis is now for 29ers.
@lukeenduro8285 25 күн бұрын
It wasn't Nokia. It was Nokian. Different brand.
@Larry93215 20 күн бұрын
You forgot Proflex bikes I have a couple of them
@user-vv2ev6fx6g 27 күн бұрын
I bought a Gary-Fisher Big Sir, then added a bafang mid-drive. I'm sure that bike would go downhill now at 50mph. If I could hang on, it is a 750-watt motor 😂
@gmbn 26 күн бұрын
Sounds dangerous 😬 You could have the fastest Big Sir in the world!
@guslaw9389 27 күн бұрын
👌
@dennisseldon9001 16 күн бұрын
Nokia, or Nokian? Different companies if I remember correctly
@hjellmarhjelle5716 27 күн бұрын
Well done.. But Its time to come up with some new ideas. Feels like you guys makes the same video many times. Everything was better back in the days i guess.. understand it's not easy in a industry in crisis..
@aaronschoenberg1726 21 күн бұрын
Proflex?
@amc_sounds 17 күн бұрын
Mah-rin not Ma-rin!
@jamesconroy7030 20 күн бұрын
Of course you couldn't put V brakes on a 1991 bike since V brakes didn't exist till 96.
@brianrainey2739 27 күн бұрын
Nokian.
@piast99 27 күн бұрын
Exactly. No relation to Nokia apart from the base town name.
@brianrainey2739 27 күн бұрын
BTW, was Doddy there? It looks like the kind of place where he would hang out! 😆
@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene 19 күн бұрын
Fat tires and disc brakes was the only improvement from the horrible original mountain bikes. 2.125 inch wide tires are fine for gravel roads, but sand, snow, rocky, lose, all other terrain they stink. Once a 3 or 4 inch wide tire is tried you never go back to 2 inch unless you have perfect trails or you you're just too weak to ride a slightly heavier bike. With the fat tires suspension (which is useless for everything but jumping) was not needed anymore for normal Xcountry riders and downhillers who are sane. The 3 inch tire is good for everything but deep sand and snow. I am running a 4 inch today only because I don't have any tire choices for a 26x3. So today is a 26x4 and I am very happy with it, other than we still can't buy heavy duty tires in this size. Too many weak wimps can't ride a bike that weighs 35 pounds so they don't make safe tires yet. Maybe someday.
@ektrolleyboy 17 күн бұрын
“Ma-rin”… Get it right.
@nobodyisname 18 күн бұрын
I couldn't hear a thing she said behind those khaki shorts hiding her beautiful 😺
@chadbarbaro 20 күн бұрын
yeti was the coolest, now not at all
@lansdorf 27 күн бұрын
Or they could have just copied motor cross bikes in the first place. Pleased i never wasted my money on any of those bikes. In fact i was building better bikes in 1974
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