Are We SURE Incineroar is BOTTOM TIER!? (ft. WaDi, Coney & ESAM)

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2 жыл бұрын

I think we've all been sleeping on Incineroar. Skyjay, an Incineroar main, has kind of been DOMINATING in tournament with him recently, and his skill has really been putting Incineroar on the table. We had some of our SMASH PROS react to his most recent tournament.
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@RainbowAceOfSpades 2 жыл бұрын

That spike with d-air after the purposely failed side-b is a thing of beauty.

@Hunted0LessShirt 2 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, that whip bonk is a pretty wild mixup and definitely can send at weird angles off stage.

@Deathraze1 2 жыл бұрын

@@Hunted0LessShirt it always sends the same angle. Not a mix-up its just optimal coming from offstage. Clothesline sends across stage/can be teched, and the upwards one obviously wont do shit.

@AshenDemon 2 жыл бұрын

Someone murdered me with that once after I picked Incinaroar and teabagged them repeatedly. I wasn't even mad I was just shocked.

@toadofficer1740 2 жыл бұрын

Yep I have tried to do that but can't consistantly do it

@dragonleo_lemon7184 2 жыл бұрын

I actually landed that combo on my friend once at that is still the best pop off ive ever had that game was CLOSE it was last hit against FALCON but he got careless and tried to 2 frame me but i still had my double jump so i jumped back to dodge his down tilt and then grabbed him with side b and THEN I MURDERED HIM >:D

@beansfebreeze 2 жыл бұрын

The beauty of low tiers is that they force you to be good at the game and not just good at your character . . . or they make you cheesy

@isaacbacon6056 2 жыл бұрын

It's just the dichotomy of a game with both good ass players like skyjay and funny Luigi mains

@echospace7347 2 жыл бұрын

not a low tier

@cloverhansel5668 2 жыл бұрын

Sadly my incin is cheesy and bad XD that’s why I watch these sorta things lol. Like this video alone showed me just how poorly I was using my throws.

@elijahadorno5061 2 жыл бұрын

This is why ultimate is so good. Nearly every character can be seen as good if used the right way

@BoBnfishy 2 жыл бұрын

It really is shockingly well balanced. One of the best video games ever in my opinion

@azulesmalls5514 2 жыл бұрын

Except for Marth apparently :(

@ken7007 2 жыл бұрын

Lol smash balanced if cheese is what you call balance ok

@Coose11 2 жыл бұрын

nice Guts pic

@survivorofthecurse717 2 жыл бұрын

@@azulesmalls5514 So many people just call him worse lucina. Like, even if he has potential, it's so difficult to use him well. It's not like Mario, Fox, or PT because he simply doesn't have the same good tools as them. It saddens me and almost made me want to quit because of it

@wailmoregd140 2 жыл бұрын

We’ve seen Skyjay get really far into major tournaments too, I think there’s some serious potential for this character despite their tierlist placements, same idea with other cracked low tier/lower mid tier mains like Bassmage

@aidantalksalot5132 2 жыл бұрын

What about peanut

@Saltyoven 2 жыл бұрын

Speaking of bassmage they teamed up and won a doubles major against mkleo. Never forget.

@yeehaw8089 2 жыл бұрын

@@aidantalksalot5132 Mac is a little too garbage of a character to win a major and peanut isn’t close to a top player

@SDfighter1 2 жыл бұрын

@@aidantalksalot5132 not even close

@zylrat7571 2 жыл бұрын

His only weakness is that hes slow. Everything else he has is broken

@DoctorNovakaine 2 жыл бұрын

23:42 - 24:22 Every now and then Coney reminds you why he's a commentator. That was exquisitely stated. Also...we're talking about Incineroar's surprising result and with good reason, but can we take a moment to just emphasize that freaking Grand Finals was Incineroar versus RICHTER? This game's balance level is jaw-dropping.

@royceisthebestrapper7686 2 жыл бұрын

“A lot of characters die at 76%. That is a whole jigglypuffs life” fucking sent me lmao. Coney is the man. Also yeah wtf, and even now I still think there are other sleeper characters that are extremely under-explored. Wii fit, corrin, the pits, hell I even think the links are a little underrated. Obviously we can’t speak for ultimates life expectancy, but I’d love to see character optimization fleshed out to the fullest in the next couple of years!

@_-Dante-_ 2 жыл бұрын

7:20 for anyone wondering, Incineroar has dmg based armour (~15%) starting on Frame 1 of the second half of side B (after grab connects) to prevent his high startup, high commitment, easy to avoid, command grab from getting canceled if someone with good aerials just unga bungas you. The armour lasts until frame 55~60 ish idk off hand.

@MoebiusX9 2 жыл бұрын

Incin has to be at least mid tier. This character is slow, yes, but the other tools he has are just flat out better than low tiers. If Incin was faster he would be high or top in my eyes

@freedfg6694 2 жыл бұрын

The difference between incin and a real low tier like Kirby is that if you camp Kirby he has almost no option. He doesn't have fast options other than ftilt and nair but they are so damned small. But if you camp incin you better play perfect because a mistake will be fatal. And there is literally always a threat of side b and counter. You have to play around incin, every single game he's in.

@harpot678 2 жыл бұрын

If Incin was fast it would be an affront to game design lol

@TopOfAllWorlds 2 жыл бұрын

If incin was fast he'd be the most broken character smash has ever seen besides metaknight

@DedikateSSB 2 жыл бұрын

Incins moveset is broken, if he had movement speed he would literally be top tier. All his moves are good. I have him at high mid tier on my list.

@theillusionist1494 2 жыл бұрын

@@freedfg6694 Kirby main here - can vouch for everything said here. I was floored when Marss, Esam, and Wadi chose Incin over Kirby in their bottom 10 video. If Kirby was even just a little faster -or had better special moves,- he'd be way more competent competitively. But if Incineroar was even just a little faster, he'd be one of the best characters in the game.

@KrazyKyle-ij9vb 2 жыл бұрын

3:30 "What kind of brain do you have to have to go for this?" Skyjay: "It would be cool if this down air landed"

@gigahammer662 2 жыл бұрын

15:33 Revenge has 2 frames of Invincibility on startup, 25 active frames, and 12 frames of Invincibility afterward, for a total of 49 frames (my numbers might be slightly off because I counted myself, but that is pretty accurate). I might be wrong about this, but I'm not sure.

@brain_tonic 2 жыл бұрын

Why did you count for yourself when you can go to UltimateFrameData?

@andrewjacob1789 2 жыл бұрын

Is that what that strange flash was that Esam pointed out?

@anonymous7024 2 жыл бұрын

I’m just happy to see Incineroar receive a glow-up similar to the one Byleth got

@yeehaw8089 2 жыл бұрын

they’re not even close to comparable, leo has won several majors with byleth, in part because he’s the best player on the scene, skyjay occasionally top 16s majors and won one regional, not saying that’s not anything to scoff at, but you should recognize the difference

@bowsertnt7904 2 жыл бұрын

@@yeehaw8089 he consistently got at the very least into top 32 at every major he went to since the online era

@yeehaw8089 2 жыл бұрын

@@bowsertnt7904 yeah I’m not saying that’s unimpressive what I’m saying is he isn’t top 8-ing anything

@anonymous7024 2 жыл бұрын

I was not necessarily taking about placements more so the fact that nobody batted an eye until Leo picked up Byleth and Skyjay picked up Incineroar and people realised their potential (obviously Byleth more so than Incin)

@killercore007 2 жыл бұрын

@@anonymous7024 I remember when during the Byleth reveal in this one stream, the second Sakurai said he would have slower speed, 95% of the chat became everyone screaming some form of "Slow! He bottom tier!" *kirk face palm* I so wanted to say shut your Melee mentality asses up.

@bobert221 2 жыл бұрын

About the Incineroar flashing white ESAM mentioned at 15:34, I think it might be something similar to Shadow I-frames in Smash 4, a technique that let Shulk carry over/extend the invincibility frames from Vision by doing the aerial version and landing with a specific timing I know he doesn't have that tech anymore but maybe Revenge can do the same in Ultimate, otherwise I don't really know, might have just been a texture glitch

@adityak8015 2 жыл бұрын

similar things happen with greninja.... but on the ledge instead. I'm not sure what it is but it must be a counter thing and it sure is weird

@noahvick1472 2 жыл бұрын

I haven't done any research so someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly confident its a visual glitch. I've mained Incineroar for a while, and only started noticing it after 13.0.1 released. Shows up after revenge like 5% of the time, disappears after half a second.

@katarmstrong7168 2 жыл бұрын

As an Incin main, I can confirm it’s a visual glitch. It does not give more invincibility unfortunately

@bobert221 2 жыл бұрын

@@katarmstrong7168 ah too bad then, I play Incin pretty often and landing can really be an issue, so it would have helped if it did work like Shulk's counter in Smash 4. Still cool to have confirmation

@arnaldor2771 2 жыл бұрын

@@noahvick1472 that's sad, I thought it was like the patched invincible Luigi tornado

@blooe8448 2 жыл бұрын

He lands that side b dair and just NODS. I would be going crazy!

@koncentra5767 2 жыл бұрын

lmao i do that all the time on quickplay i'm surprised it took this long for people to start doing it in actual tournaments since its an amazing bait

@agentjj1237 2 жыл бұрын

@@koncentra5767 You don't face pros in quickplay

@koncentra5767 2 жыл бұрын

@@agentjj1237 congrats on missing the point of my comment

@agentjj1237 2 жыл бұрын

@@koncentra5767 Wait then what's the point? Dumb it down for me, I'm not smart. Generally Side-B to Dair wouldn't work on pro players unless your a god like Skyjay

@bowsertnt7904 2 жыл бұрын

@@agentjj1237 you do that option when they need to jump or do their recovery. It’s really practible, but most Incins don’t go offstage when they should since Incin is rly good at edgeguarding

@tomasbedoya2901 2 жыл бұрын

Both Skyjay and Dom beat Chag? It is great to see character speciallists be this succesful

@hostiledodo1150 2 жыл бұрын

As an Incineroar player myself, I feel so vindicated that Spicy Kitty is getting recognized as a threat and not low-tier trash. For real, though, this guy is nuts. I wouldn't even have the balls to go after some of these confirms.

@Shradow 2 жыл бұрын

As an Incin main Skyjay is an inspiration. Incin is slow, yes, but his kit is just so damn strong otherwise. If he were reasonably fast he'd be oppressive. I'm glad players like Skyjay and MysterySol can show people not to underestimate the character.

@echospace7347 2 жыл бұрын

people need to stop saying his recovery is trash cause it isn't it just isn't the best

@samblanton9010 2 жыл бұрын

Incineroar’s revenge timer also goes down every time he whiffs a move. He loses more time for harder hitting moves, like smash attacks, and less for stuff like jab and aerials. Grabs are the best way to get rid of it usually, but that depends on who you’re playing.

@TyphonCH 2 жыл бұрын

@7:40 Incineroar's forward air normally isn't safe in shield against a shield grab but because he had that fat stack of Revenge it goes down to something like -4 on shield. Probably the best mix ups Incineroar has

@purple_roy2190 2 жыл бұрын

Skyjay is AMAZING

@Chip10591 2 жыл бұрын

Incineroar honestly it’s probably mid tier or higher, he’s slow so yes he can struggling with punishing mistakes , But this proves that can be negated with skill, And he has a unique X factor where camping him out is a dangerous game, thanks to revenge, counters a couple projectiles and then hit you for 100

@vaderwalks 2 жыл бұрын

At any rate there's no way he's BOTTOM tier.

@loadingname5499 2 жыл бұрын

You are quite litteraly playing Russian roulette against this character

@tumultoustortellini 2 жыл бұрын

His recovery is exploitable, his speed means any character that can space him out doesn't have too hard a time, even with revenge as a factor (you can just grab him and it gets rid off the buffs). Revenge isn't a good enough mechanic to carry a low tier into mid tier.

@loadingname5499 2 жыл бұрын

@@tumultoustortellini but then he uses side b and you die at 60

@tumultoustortellini 2 жыл бұрын

@@loadingname5499 it's not that hard to avoid and it kills at 70 with good di.

@jakesnake5525 2 жыл бұрын

The double take on “is he dead?” Lol

@ruthusflabbergast1263 2 жыл бұрын

If only Incine was as fast as bowser. A man can dream.

@Unknownsaiyan3 2 жыл бұрын

Incin is mid tier imo, his mobility and recovery hold him back from high tier or somethin

@greatobikili4858 2 жыл бұрын

His mobility yes at times but besides elite smash top incin mains don't get edgeguarded as easy. Can though yes but do they no.

@shortesnameofalltime 2 жыл бұрын

Low mid tier cause of his or her mobility rlly hurt in neutral

@nishanchelbi5054 2 жыл бұрын

His recovery is still better than a lot of people think. Doesn't mean it's good, but still not that bad.

@dashman8499 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t really think he’s low tier. His mid imo also, and same about his speed and recovery.

@dashman8499 2 жыл бұрын

@@nishanchelbi5054 I agree. I’d rather have incin’s recovery than DK’s

@dextra_24703 2 жыл бұрын

SkyJay has a grappler mindset omg.

@lagspike7763 2 жыл бұрын

HE PUT PALU INTO A BODY BAG

@AT-yz4eo 2 жыл бұрын

That final set ended with an EIGHTY PERCENT damage command grab. Incineroar is the King Yeetus of Deletus. Hail the swoll cat.

@slade_pikachu 2 жыл бұрын

I'm seeing a lot of "incineroar isn't good, skyjay is just amazing" and the fact that other incins were going on a rampage the last few months just dismantles that statement entirely. Incineroar is a good character.

@wolfdragox5563 2 жыл бұрын

Regardless he’s definitely not bottom tier

@dougpouncey 2 жыл бұрын

Am I the only one who feels like low tier mains are nearly always better and scarier to fight than top tier mains? People who voluntarily play “bad” characters know something we don’t

@slade_pikachu 2 жыл бұрын

It's mostly because they have to play a lot better against most, if not all the cast to have the success of top tiers, who have to commit less. Low tiers have to have the skill of playing characters with better tools that snuff out theirs and that knowing how to deal with it makes top tier mains crumble. A lot of the top tier mains do worse against specialists of "'bad characters'" because they only play against the same 20 good characters and not any of the "gimmicky low tiers" to know how to deal with them

@freedfg6694 2 жыл бұрын

I'm still more scared of fighting wolfs than I am of ever seeing a Doc even if all docs are on prescription medication when they play.

@kornishkrab9032 2 жыл бұрын

Sakurai is crying tears of joy right now. His dream of people actually playing his game rather than 3 characters on 3 maps is coming true.

@vurminoid 2 жыл бұрын

Finally my boy is getting the respect he deserves

$@holyfrackledang$

@holyfrackledang 2 жыл бұрын

dripcineroar

@ethanstanley920 2 жыл бұрын

Bro….my mouth was just 😧 the whole time. Like thats on a whole nother level of skill and practice and knowing a character by heart and muscle memory. He just knows everything. I wanna see more people being godly with bottom tier characters

@jeezuhskriste5759 2 жыл бұрын

This is why I love Incineroar. In a single frame, you go from winning by 30 to losing by 40 and 2 inches from the blast zone.

@gigahammer662 2 жыл бұрын

YES THANK YOU EXPLAIN WHY MY BOY ISN'T BAD

@dextra_24703 2 жыл бұрын

The side-B miss option select is so fun in edge guards. You can Lariat or down air and my man just down aired him my hero.

@darymetal 2 жыл бұрын

The moral of this video is "I'm grateful for playing a top tier that fucks up Incineroar, cause Skyjay is op"

@HeWhoWalksWithTigers 2 жыл бұрын

Glad to see my boy getting some love.

@MarioStickMan12 2 жыл бұрын

Incineroar was never bad, some of his moves are like one of the best in the game and/or are still really solid since the launch of the game, if this character had a better recovery and was like 50% faster in terms of his movement, he'd absolutely be top tier, upper high tier at worst.

@codystork3008 2 жыл бұрын

Yes he was in version 1.1 when his recovery went half the distance up I play Doc and Incin Doc had a less punishable recovery. There were some other buffs too but that was the most important. Incin is good now but he was worse earlier.

@MarioStickMan12 2 жыл бұрын

@@codystork3008 His recovery has always been bad, overall as a character he was never bad, all the good stuff he has now is mostly the same as back then. Even at launch, people would often comment that Incineroar had some really good moves for a slow heavyweight. I'd say he's a lower high-tier now but was a mid-tier at launch.

@echospace7347 2 жыл бұрын

incin recovery literally isnt that bad at all he has 4 different B moves that are all good for getting back to ledge or stalling

@daface7976 2 жыл бұрын

Finally some incineroar appreciation

@eb5236 2 жыл бұрын

Its crazy cause one of the only moves I know that always beats the side-b is Diddy’s monkey flip. The command grab beats the side-b armor and takes priority over the command grab as well

@rubberwoody 2 жыл бұрын

"why is incineroar winning now at the late stage of ultimate" because incineroar was buffed about 6 or 7 times in the course of ultimate

@DeronHargrove 2 жыл бұрын

I've been playing Incineroar since I got Ultimate so watching him get some recognition is amazing

@ImEcchi 2 жыл бұрын

My brain melted, I love incineroar, always have but holy crap.

@henryzhang464 2 жыл бұрын

always love skyjay analysis

@temoharri8848 2 жыл бұрын

This vid makes me want to go back and see what I can get with Incineroar again.

@IsaiahCelloBrown 2 жыл бұрын

Aw man, Wadi's spirit just makes me happy :)

@Chmmr 2 жыл бұрын

12:40 that white flash thing is just a common incineroar bug after a whiffed revenge, the revenge animation has him rapidly flash purple and white but he landed right at the end of it so it kept the effect during the endlag

@SuperSilver7591 2 жыл бұрын

I've been an Incin main since launch and it is so nice to see Skyjay demolishing people lmaoo

@wonderlandzer0 Жыл бұрын

I love seeing people play low-mid to low tier characters! It makes it feel like every character can be amazing (or is amazing) if they're in good hands. Its nice. I main a low-mid tier (Zelda) so it would be cool to see someone shine with her :)

@nandusnova8023 2 жыл бұрын

I love skyjay so hype and fun to watch

@dannydecheeto5841 Жыл бұрын

This one aged well with collision

@wolfie-_-ranger7932 2 жыл бұрын

Incineroar with a speed buff = Skyjay getting to top 10 in the world

@lucaslee8991 2 жыл бұрын

As a Steelers fan, Skyjay has now become one of my favorite competitors.

@CriIp 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve always said incineroar is not bad and finaly people realize that

@alexhurding8931 2 жыл бұрын

To anyone else with ADHD who couldn't place the music. It's from Sonic Adventure 2 - Song name: 34°N, 12°E ...For Mad Space

@A_VorteX 2 жыл бұрын

I love seeing more pros from Mexico being Mexican myself, also, Incineroar? who would've thought. I'm expecting more pros that main low tiers. They are hype

@ashbowyer7792 2 жыл бұрын

that flashing was a missed revenge

@gsweet1227 2 жыл бұрын

As an Incineroar main I would beat my friends (who are better at the game than me) and when they’d rage about neutral B or Revenge-side B I’d troll them with things like “But my character is D-tier!” We started believing Incin was better than the community collectively agreed on, and now Skyjay is out here proving that in the right hands Incineroar is a FORCE to be reckoned with! 🔥🔥🔥

@brokenbed8970 Жыл бұрын

One of my favorite things to get at 0% is down throw -> down air at ledge, if they mess up their DI u can literally kill at 0%

@lunchbagSSBU 2 жыл бұрын

big kitty man is stronk idc what the tier list says

@derpjorge 2 жыл бұрын

15:34 it’s like a visual glitch that happens when you use revenge in the air , also happens with Greninja

@digitalatom6433 2 жыл бұрын

Just generally covering these low tier mains that are doing really well is a good thing I think.

@MrSlizzard Жыл бұрын

Lor-ha-mercy on Skyjay's foes

@gabrielchee8470 2 жыл бұрын

Props to him for replacing Magister after the latter vanished. Also the fact that he can nail the side b is good enough for me

@justcthanks4639 2 жыл бұрын

at 16:58 , when Coneezy says "How do you side-B Belmont", is it just me or does the audio of "belmont" carry over to the WaDi clip immediately after? I'm high btw

@myproblemsandmaybeyours4513 2 жыл бұрын

NASTY combos dude 😂😂

@Quthology Жыл бұрын

Fun fact: with a 5 revenge stack. Incinaroar can do 100% damage. Note: 5 is the max for neutral attacks. Smash/specials attacks would be 3.

@GuentersHoerspielstube 2 жыл бұрын

Alright so I WAS an Incin not being Bottom 10 believer before this video. Now I'm unsure if that cat is not actually high tier. Imagine casually threestocking one of the world's best Palutenas multiple times

@Deathraze1 2 жыл бұрын

Everyone seems to forget incineroar got buffed not too long ago. Lot of characters got buffs to their strengths but were left with their downsides the same. Incineroar seems to be one of the few where that actually made any difference. Speed still sucks but damn 76% in one move? This guys cracked. On dom aswell who is an incredible player definitely not your average belmont.

@salvatorepepe4954 2 жыл бұрын

this character just needs to be faster because with his features like revenge he can turn a game upside down. Not even a very high speed would be needed but one at the level of the other heavyweight like ganondorf or k rool

@gregtrump8905 2 жыл бұрын

That was awesome dude

@isaacromero71 2 жыл бұрын

Hey I went to fof!!! And I actually almost beat Peckham best min min in so cal and he told me after he won that he has to work on the hero matchup 😁

@thefireofthefox1 2 жыл бұрын

I feel like i've seen the art style of WaDi's mewtwo poster before, but I can't find it anywhere. Anybody know?

@papi912 2 жыл бұрын

Congrats SkyJay!!!!

@beta20x9 2 жыл бұрын

Its crazy how Incineroar winning a tournament can be either expected or shocking depending on the game being played.

@harpot678 2 жыл бұрын

You see Incineroar tear through so many top players and begin to believe, then you watch Skyjay vs Marss where the downsides of Incineroar as a character are highlighted.

@beta20x9 2 жыл бұрын

@@harpot678 Oh I was referring to incineroar in its own series but yeah very true.

@dubstepmummy4849 Жыл бұрын

It's just sheer mind games imo. I mean think about it. All analysies made were either a "Why would he do this?" Or "How much did that do?!". That's exactly it. I mean we went for 2 ledge trumps in a row, then goes for "another" just to get a nasty punish in anticipation for the bait, which if you recalled, Hook, Line, and Sinker

@Hachijo3GS Жыл бұрын

I main Incineroar and I’m happy to have found SkyJay. This dude is insane!

@acedavidson1410 2 жыл бұрын

Revenge makes zoners think wayyy harder about zoning

@jungillestt02 2 жыл бұрын

Dude is insane

@Vantacyan 2 жыл бұрын

Banger character

@Jaguar7James Жыл бұрын

This team analysis was exquisite 👌🏽

@Butterbob. 2 жыл бұрын

I love and play as Incineroar all the time

@Hakaimono Жыл бұрын

Bruh, Skyjay makes Incinaroar look like a top character.

@jonfuku5097 Жыл бұрын

15:45 I'm pretty sure he was trying to air dodge or shield and spot dodge thinking that he wasn't still dropping down and was on the ground? It's strange because normally he'll blink like that at the beginning of revenge so it might be a visual bug.

@treedude4246 2 жыл бұрын

The fact that the finale of this tournament is incinroar vs belmont is why I love this game People just play whatever

@nyquillusdillwad9119 2 жыл бұрын

who's belmont?

@daedalus7780 2 жыл бұрын

Regarding the Incineroar glowing thing, my guess is just that it's a visual glitch that happens when the game isn't sure if you're in the air or on the ground when you use Revenge. He seemed like he was sort of on the platform, and sort of not. I'm not really sure, though. This game can be super weird sometimes.

@The-Determined-Ninja 2 жыл бұрын

I don't really follow the competitive scene that much, but I was be greatly pleased by any look at a high level Lucario- (Not just because it'd be interesting, but I'm sure you can guess why)

@bigtoblerone8446 2 жыл бұрын

Who ever said he was bottom or low? There's only few low tiers: doc, mac, dedede, ganon.

@NurseBadTouch 2 жыл бұрын

I only thought he was lowtier when I first started following smash and saw some tier lists, then I watched gameplay and fought against a few and immediately began to doubt it. I firmly believe hes no lower than mid especially watching shadic and bullhall go back and forth at their local so much. (Which if you guys haven't seen those two play go check them out their sets are always nuts)

@oldycow 2 жыл бұрын

I've been saying for years if he just got a movement speed buff he'd be top 10 maybe top 5. He can't be THAT bad with his slow ass

@vaderwalks 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, depending on how buffed his speed is.

@toowiggly 2 жыл бұрын

A movement speed buff would make most low tiers into top tiers

@oldycow 2 жыл бұрын

@@toowiggly Not like it would him. He's literally the slowest in the game and has a nasty moveset. Maybe top 30's yeah, but it would make him top 10+

@AshenDemon 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, he's literally one of the slowest runners in the game.

@oldycow 2 жыл бұрын

@@AshenDemon Literally THE slowest.

@michaelatkinson1949 2 жыл бұрын

There no bad characters it’s more about consistent they are.

@Osmosis-jy6xp 2 жыл бұрын

If incineroar had the ground speed of of like,oh idk peach you would here calls for nerfs like no tomorrow

@donkey578 2 жыл бұрын

Skyjay is goated holy shit

@temoharri8848 2 жыл бұрын

But that 67% mystery is not a real mystery. When “the cat” is in that fired up state due to the down B connecting and deflecting a move from an opponent, “the cat’s” moves in that state is temporarily increased. Not like Lucario’s moves being more powerful as he climbs in damage percent, but there is an increase for Incineroar.

@samuelmena4889 2 жыл бұрын

Wadi: Is he dead?

@flowerFL 2 жыл бұрын

you should do more stuff like this but with other low tiers like peanuts little mac

@serpentmaster1323 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t know where I got the Idea but if there’s ever a smash movie with voices, I want to hear Idris Elba as Inceneroar

@elliotthood1719 2 жыл бұрын

0:53 God I Iove wadi. He’s a content *MACHINE* What is he even saying 😂

@randomgames3918 2 жыл бұрын

I was since day one, and no one believed in me that incineroar got the sauce

@Manganimemer 2 жыл бұрын

I think, end of the day, people need to open their eyes and realize that character speed means next to nothing in this game. If character speed mattered as much as everyone seems to claim it does, the Leo and Sparg0 wouldn't be getting the results they do with Byleth. If character speed mattered as much as everyone seems to think it does, Shiek would be the undisputed best character in the game. Character. Movement. Speed. Does. Not. Matter. What matters is their frame data, their raw power, and their options.