Jumpscared my ass.

It scared the shit out of me ngl

jeez that shit was creepy and i first thought it was some kind of style choice. great jumpscare indeed.

Nice the CC can fill the blank.

it got me paying attention as i was dozing off while drawing tbh

If it wasn't the same 5 villages of any type it would be much more bearable. We have one campground and maybe 50 beeds among 5k residents and I could easily bare more people visiting but less than 5km up and 20km downstream there are towns with a much worse ratio (20/80 allredy is uncomfortable, not to mention things like Mediterranean islands or thise in the Pacific)

I live on one now, often one so expensive that it's employees cannot afford to live there. I live in my car to afford the rest of the lifestyle it affords me. All because people care more about the real estate prices than the employees trying to live there and contribute long term.

I currently live in a tourist trap and have lived close to one before. tourists make the worst customers, especially when they go to normal stores that aren't part of the theme park or resort. This is Walmart, not Disney world. We don't bend over backwards to make your day perfect. It's amazing how people dehumanize locals when they travel.

Torons = Morons + Tourists

Especially in towns with tourism as their main industry, visitors there are under the impression that - like Disney Land - all of this exists _for them_. They confuse hospitality for entitlement. Whenever we went to visit family and stay with aunts and uncles, our parents always sat us down and gave us this speech: "Hospitality is a two-way thing, not a one-way thing. The role of the courteous and humble guest contributes as much to the visit as that of the gracious host. " Which translates to "I know you don't pick up your towels or offer to wash the dishes at home but you better G.D. do it while you're here" lol But it's a lesson I take with me whenever I travel.

It's honestly funny how Airbnb has gotten so bad that it makes the hotel industry look good and ethical in comparison(hotel industry is still bad in case that wasn't obvious)

I still don't get why it's called bnb. Real bnbs give you breakfast

True. At least you'd hope the hotels would improve, but no, not really.

​@@TheMysteryDriverisn't the bed and breakfast made of air?

Such immersive/authentic options existed before and still do, but they aren't easy to find, which AirBnB solved indeed really well

You know they don't see us as people. We're there for their entertainment and if they move there they say terrible comments such as how it would be better if we didn't exist. As the years go by you see their vision become reality and see less and less of your kin folk. And the remaining kin folk you do see are impoverished and broken. Sigh, Sigh, Sigh!!!

Ironically, as am American who grew up in a touristy city (Hollywood) I would frequently notice typically Asian tourists taking pictures of me and other stereotypical California American girls (tall and blonde). Objectification by tourists can affect anyone, so I always grew up very aware of how to act when traveling as to not be like all the tourists I’d experienced

Your culture is exotic to most people on Earth.

​​@@xaviercopeland2789 who cares? doesnt make too much of a difference

I think it can someone make a difference. I was on holiday in a country that does Halloween in a big way (not the US or UK), unlike my own culture. There were loads of families out late with kids in adorable costumes, and it was tempting to take pictures. But a) those are other people’s children, not a public spectacle, and b) it wouldn’t be fair for me to create the feeling in these kids that they are a commodity in their own homes. With adults it may be different, especially if you have the language skills to ask first ( “Your clothing looks wonderful. Is it for a special occasion? May I take a photo so I can remember it?”) but I’ma guest in their city and it felt important to be polite. As someone who was visibly not of the same ethnicity as them, if anything I was the spectacle! A few people started but no one took photos of me.

That beach example sounds very reminiscent of the situation in Jamaica. Business owners everywhere gobbling up and privatizing the commons however they can

@@Andrewism yea,it's basically like that.The right to roam has been almost completely trampled over by private interests.

That all sou ds horrible. To solve it, that seems like a failure of the government. Tourists themselves can't actually fix local issues.

Know the feeling, in Cornwall whole small village’s have become nothing but air b&bs, and I’ve heard horror stories of entire city centres becoming air b&bs in tourism heavy city’s. I really think governments need to step up and bring in legal restraint’s to air b&bs and the amount of property they can hold, it’s getting ridicules

I hate to read it. I love Greece. My girlfriend was from Athens. And I try to learn a bit of Greek as well (at least I can read it 😂). But yeah, same things in the Netherlands, but than 100x worse in Greece. And after being exploited by EU banks and the drop in living standards, it's a gorgeous country with great people in a pretty shit situation...

It extends beyond government too. It boggles my mind when I see people not just accept, but aggressively defend things like the US healthcare system, car dependent cities, and jobs paying nowhere near a livable wage. Like, these have proven to be objectively broken, if not total failures for which they can't even provide a valid defense, and yet they reject any alternatives, and shame and ridicule those who attempt to suggest some. Bet they're the same people who use every chance when it's their turn to complain about these problems affecting THEM, and express criticism and distrust in their government.

Italy was manufactured by it's gov in like the 50s. It's not a new phenomenon and sometimes it's used to create a cultural identity

Stingy backpackers are one of my pet peeves. When they are determined to pay the same as a local or give out endlessly about being overcharged for something. First, its small change to you, let it go. Second, your on holiday, go spend you money and have fun!

@@AlG214people having a problem with how other people live their lives when it has no effect on them is one of my pet peeves, lol. There’s certainly a line, but OP doesn’t seem near it. What’s wrong with paying the same for anything as a local?

@@AlG214this is an interesting take. I understand the tourist tax for areas that are catered to tourism. I lived in nyc and was able to access certain spaces for free because I was a resident. My taxes and money in general went directly to the local economy. And as someone who travels for long periods of time, not necessarily on holiday, I’m aware of the restaurants with local and tourist menus (usually their food is… not great, so I avoid in general), venues and parks with different prices for residents. Again, I get it… for smaller nations, a lot of money for tourism does not reach the local economy, so people try to capitalize when possible. Tourist pay the tax for ease and convenience in other countries, and many locals can’t afford to live in tourist areas. Being able to travel is a privilege and comes with alot of assumptions. With that said, I understand the frustration and exhaustion in feeling singled-out and up-charged due to your nationality and assumed ignorance of the culture and local economy. There are certain situations that are acts of extortion and scams. So I think it’s contextual. At the end of the day tho, connecting with communities, having respect and knowledge tends to decrease the chances of those types of interactions.

@@5hirtandtieler Sorry, reading back, my post came across as more shady towards the OP than intended. I was actually agreeing with her and adding to it as she said "I try to make it a point to give my money to the locals". I was talking about backpackers who seem to do everything in their power to give as little as possible to the locals. @ariesmry Also to make it clear, this only really applies when rich people travel in poor countries. When you go to say, India, you are getting everything for a fraction of what you would pay in the EU/US, so why argue about a few cents difference?

@@AlG214 Context is a funny thing - in that light I can see what you were originally trying to say. In that case I agree! I’m glad you clarified :)

I live in Bermuda- THANK YOU for this comment. Nailed the fuk out of it.

This is a really good point!

This! It's so easy for it to be a catch-22 when you look at nations that have been industrialized to death, like Sumatra and Borneo. I feel the key is to ensure the local communities are the ones holding the economic power, whether it be based in tourism, indistry, tech, etc. This is vital for so many reasons, not least of which including social justice and environmental conservation (they basically go hand-in-hand anyway).

​@Sleipnirseight I guess it's time to seize the means of production. Who knew capitalism would encourage exploitation of those with the least amount of capital around the world.

I always say Trinis are truly blessed to not have to put up with an influx of tourists upon which we'd be economically dependent. Just imagining our landmarks overrun with disrespectful visitors makes my skin crawl

@@Andrewism I am curious about how it is during Carnaval. Is there an influx of tourists then, or is it mostly local? An American, I went to T&T in April of 1983 or so and it was lovely. I went with a Trini expat and stayed with his family and we were just Soca fans together, meeting everyone we could, seeing everyone perform that we could.

@@ginkgobilobatreeCarnival always brings in a large number of tourists. There aren’t any official statistics (that I’m aware of) which show how they’re divided but they tend to be members of the diaspora, friends of the diaspora and interested persons. The problem that we face with carnival as well is that the commodified parts of it are the ones that are packed to capacity. The traditional events have been dwindling in size for years, but there seems to be a growing interest in some of them (due in part to increased youth participation and engagement.

Aren't groan & grown different words?

@spaghettiisyummy.3623 is this really all you got from this comment dude?

this

Yeah. Traveling can be a real source of anxiety for me due to the issues highlighted in this video, which can end up defeating the purpose of traveling in the first place. And that’s on top of trying to keep my depression from ruining the experience.

Same here...

ashamed of what? going places?

I feel the same way unfortunately :(

Prague?

​@@raphaelbosco8333my thoughts exactly

Which city? Budapest?

That's so awful! To be fair, British and French people are still a-holes even when you're a tourist visiting _their_ country lol

thank you for posting. i’ve never really thought of this, even though my situation is a bit similar to yours

Filipino here who never left but has travelled a little extensively. I appreciate you sharing your perspective.

Yes!!! Local travel is wonderful. I can't really afford international travel but I love going to the local museums and landmarks and all that.

But 4 hr flights instead of 2 month boat ride lmao. I'd be down for the boat ride

My Mexican husband can not visit the us because he’s married to me. He has to be a citizen to set foot in the us.

@@FernandoTorrera I'm a Mexican too and can confirm. Getting a VISA is jumping through hoops and after months of wait they can still deny it to you for no reason lol

I used to live in Moscow and it would be cheaper and easier to fly to Europe or Thailand than to many beautiful parts of Russia. Consumerism sucks but it's also not very fun when you can't visit a place unless you know someone who can navigate this particular wilderness, and even proper accomodations might have a privy outside

don't forget the fanny pack and disposable camera

@@Andrewism Okay I do have a fanny pack but thats because I put my diabetic supplies in there... No no no Im type 1 diabetic XD

Hi, this is so interesting. Could you share some names of books or papers that you have used to study? I would be very interested in reading something about this topic :)

@@gorwew Oh man, it's been like 10 years... Sally Ness was the professor, but I don't see her on the UCR faculty page anymore. She has some publications and books though

thank you! this was very helpful and is exactly the kind of experience i've wanted to have with travel. i had no idea this stuff existed ❤ you're a lifesaver fr

I have a friend who is a traveling nurse all over the world. She has some crazy adventures all while helping people. I think this is the idea to have.

I like this perspective. 🧐

Its a false dichotomy and often carries more than a hint of class based snobbery. When I was being a "traveller" round SE Asia and India for 6 months, I did pretty much the same stuff as I did when I've been a "tourist". Visted some museums and beauty spots, went to the beach and got really drunk most evenings. Most "travellers" I met knew only the most basic facts about the counties they vistited.

@@AlG214 If they're so much the same, then why would these two words exist so entirely separately? Sure the difference between the two words is only some matter of degree on an as yet unnamed spectrum of behavior. Feels like some people might misclassify themselves due to a lack of knowledge or motivation to understand any difference between the two terms (lumping two or more words together as being interchangeable or essentially the same thing.) Thanks for the opportunity to ponder this further!😅

When I'm a "traveller" I go to one place for an extended time, live and work amongst the people, build relationships, and periodically jaunt out to do something "like a tourist or mere visitor would do." When I'm a "tourist," I'm leaving normal life for a little while to treat or heal myself for a short time. People can go on a really long trip to several places over the course of months or years living as "tourists" but calling themselves "travelers" just because they're doing it so much or so often. You could also think of it as: Tourist= Just looking, having fun. Traveler= Just living the "When in Rome" life

@@BlakeLaoshi Why are there two words for "expat" and "immigrant"? I think that there are definite differences between those called travellers and tourists, it is a lot less deep than most people think, and, as stated above, the word carries at least a hint of snobbery. Travellers tend to vacation for longer than tourists, they may favour certain places or activites, but from my experience, they tend to be no more profound or interesting and no less problematic.

I agree that those seeking a deeper connection will likely not get it from brief visits. True cultural exchange and such will take far more immersion. Thanks for sharing your experience!

@@Andrewism I feel the whole of travel culture favours variety over depth and can feel like a tick box exercise. You see endless lists like "100 places to see before you die". Once you've been to a place once, you have done it and next time should be a new place. This is what happens when we view the world and experiences through a consumerist mindset.

I once spent about a month in Mexico, of which I spent about half of it on buses and trains. And I learned from the experience. I decided that when I travel, I would rather see more of fewer places. I would stay in the same place for longer and not make it a goal to cover as much territory as possible. I feel like it takes about a week to really even know where I am. Am I staying in a real neighborhood, or a tourist zone. Staying in a tourist zone can be ok for part of a trip. . It's nice to have everything set up to meet your wants and needs. But you should at least know that is where you are, and it is not always clear at first. And then, one day, you notice that they only locals around you are the ones serving things to you and other travelers. Of course, turning the world into a moving frat party is not a great way to learn about the world. If you spend a large part of your trip high and or drunk, you will pretty much just learn what it is like to be high and or drunk in a different climate. You are also likely to learn what it is like to be robbed, and possibly arrested, by people who speak a different language, enabling them to plan their actions against you right in front of you without you understanding them. Being alcohol and drug free makes that kind of thing much less likely to happen. It also makes your money stretch further.

Everyone wants sugar and nobody wants to eat their vegetables.

​@@AlG214this!!

People don't want to stop flying unfortunately yet that is a major problem for the world. We know about climate change but people don't to want to minimize plane traffic or military traffic.

Yada

I think you may have misinterpreted that people in North American (US and Canada) want more walkable cities but won’t try to make it happen. Many of us do try. But the efforts aren’t usually noticed or they are on a very small scale. This is because it is a massive uphill battle working against NIMBYism, decades of unsustainable infrastructure development, decades of lack of infrastructure maintenance, and the never ending desire of people wanting to drive everywhere (includes places where they don’t have to). It is immensely difficult working against these forces since they are so grained into the culture. I can personally attest that it is exhausting trying to be the change you want to see in the world.

@@MightyFineMan oh I don't deny those people exist. I'm one of them. I just also recognize there are people who love walkability abroad but oppose it at home.

@@allanjmcphersonoh ok, the wording of your initial comment was unclear to me; thanks for clarifying. And yes, unfortunately I too have experienced people like what you described.

@@allanjmcpherson I absolutely wish we had better public transportation here in the US. It's a big reason I want to move to a city somewhere in Europe. I hate driving and feel personal vehicles are excessive, I'd much rather take public transportation, or walk.

Yes I absolutely agree with that. I live in the Midwest in a rural area, so I think it's a little different because 90% of the people around have never been to Europe, but they still would oppose public transit. There used to be trains that ran all over from town to town, now the nearest bus is like 10 miles away. I have a car and I like it, but I wouldn't use it nearly as much or might share it with a bunch of people if I could get on a train and busses.

Just shows how exploitative it all is

This has always messed me up. If there's no ethical consumption under capitalism, but it is impossible to live without consuming things under capitalism, then how in the fuck do you be ethical?

​@@starmantheta2028 That's just it! You don't! We all live with the miserable knowledge that our lives are a net evil (unless we actively help others and/or change legislature to help those who need help rather than those who are already rich)!

That has to be a pretty stupid statement. Let me explain why. Ethics is built on the social construct of the society. You are basically saying that what a capitalist society ethical views (NOT YOUR ETHICS THEIRS)cannot exist under capitalism. Why you would think that there is only one view on what is ethics.

Huh, found the communist

Go live in North Korea then if you hate capitalism so much

Ever noticed that the bulk of stereotypes tend to pull from the poorest of that group? Both of economic class and any culture or nationality. Most rich Americans are those 20 something's with a stick up their arse and bad manners at some point. But why is it the less common (as a tourist) fat poor person likely traveling for the first and last time because they need to work to live and they saved for a decade or more to do so.

I think maybe it's just an outdated caricature of American Tourism, based in a generation that had much wider spread wealth and the price for travel was less burdensome. Now there's only the trustfund kids because their parents probably already have properties all over anyways, and this is just a fun "finding yourself" moment to them. Also the idea of Americans and overconsumption lends itself to the low hanging 'fat'. Maybe the physical traits we used to stereotype aren't as present in the privileged classes, but the disregard for their indulgence is just the same.

​@@chey7691I think that's just mathematical norms at work. Most are overweight poors, few are slim rich.

@@seapeajones you won't see a lot of poor people traveling the world let alone a vacation. As most poor people in America can't afford a vacation inside the country let alone traveling. Most jackass tourists are rich compared to the average and "average" Americans. But the stereotypes remain despite most average people never getting to travel once in their life outside the country.

I like this idea a lot, I had an online friend visit before and it was really nice :)

Exactly it becomes an example of ambassadorship and community

I really wanna visit one of my online friends! Maybe I'll do it some day!

I hope you enjoyed my hidden Gibraltar joke then😉

@@Andrewism Oooooh yeaaah!

What nonprofit is that? If you're comfortable sharing of course. Those conservation efforts sound pretty great, specially the turtles one

@@elpretender1357Conservation Volunteers International Program (sp?). They used to partner with REI pre-pandemic.

Being from an island, unfortunately trains aren't an option for me, but I wish more places had them! And I wish we had more environmentally friendly ferry options as well.

​@Andrewism YES! ferries mentioned! also, it's an unfortunate trend in many places that their railways were built for colonial resource extraction and were left in such disrepair that they weren't able to be repurpoused for serving the local community before it was too late. but for hope you need only look at the herculean effort by the Indian people in transforming their network with over 20,000km! of gauge conversion and over 90% electrification! no matter how bad it seems there is much hope for a better future.

The us is anything but diverse lol

@@VonRibbitt Depends on type and granularity of diversity. Geographically the contiguous U.S. (not including Alaska, Hawaii, and other territories) encapsulates seven climates and is nearly the same size as Europe. The least interesting geography is probably the flat, empty, and mostly tree-less midwest but in that area we have 423 national park sites. While a lot of people think the U.S. has little to no culture it's important to remember the living descendants of the original people of North America and their impact on it still very much exists. Native American art, music, and religion still exist and are preserved by their descendants. Culturally the U.S. while often containing mainly immigrants from other countries has developed it's own culture. As an example Jazz grew from a mix of African folk and French Impressionist music, but is ultimately a reflection of the African-American populations of New Orleans where it originated. This process has continued with the US being a very large cultural exporter in music, film, and other media. There are plenty of dishes that got their start in the U.S., one that's commonly associated with exotic food in France is steak tartare but it was actually made in the U.S. but fell out of favor here. People from all over the globe immigrate, but mainly to larger cities. In my small home town (population 4,000) I've known immigrants from the Phillipines, Mexico, Argentina, Haiti, Germany, and two from the UK (one from Scotland the other from England). Language wise, while our dominant language is English, you can't go to far in the U.S. without encountering Spanish in some capacity. In fact with given population statistics and growing Hispanic populations it may one day be the more common first language. A lot of people imagine the US as complete cultural homogeny, but regionally they are plenty of differences. Between say Georgia and North Carolina, two very close states, there's quite a bit of variation. While both are broadly southern US with all the implications of that, there are nuances. For example NC puts vinegar on pulled pork barbecue where Georgia uses a ketchup base (Florida uses mustard base if I recall). The local produce is different thus what is in season and local dishes are influences. A lot of my friends from up north are disgusted by things like pear salad which is not something they eat up there. There's also accent variation, people from NC talk pretty nasally compared to other southern states, whereas the southern accent many think of is a deep texas accent. The common vernacular is also very different if you ask about certain things like what the strip of grass between a sidewalk and the road is called. Sorry for the long reply, tldr the US is big, and full of 330 million people, don't take for granted local culture and definitely don't forget the indigenous Native Americans and their descendants. The country is not a Hollywood Anywheresville.

If somebody could set up airship tourism in the next few decades (if anyone thinks that's absurd, look up what Sergey Brin is doing right now) they could make a fortune. Call me a tinfoil hat enjoyer, but I think the hindenburg disaster set more sustainable tourism back by about 90 years.

That's interesting! What are some researchers/organisations you would recommend checking out? I'm also studying regenerative/degrowth tourism and been into many of Higgins-Desboilles' papers. Thanks!

I'm Canadian too, which area is this happening in?

I'm not American, but your experience of difficulty with American tourists certainly rings true with my own experience with them as well

😭😭

Cities create all of that shade for themselves! Literally and figuratively, methinks 🤔

I’ve lived on Oahu for some time as well. Tbh, I’d rather tourists keep to themselves in tourist traps in Waikiki and such than inevitably ruin the lesser known areas of the island

@@trawrtster6097 most definitely. As someone who’s always been dragged to the same famous tourist attraction and hiking spots REPEATEDLY every time we had a guest over, I got sick of it really quickly, and I did not like the touristy crowded atmospheres. Honestly had more fun just walking along the ponds or gazing up at the mountains, walking along the small beach I loved next to.

i live in ohio too! if you look hard enough there’s quite a bit to do

100% I have Covid19 right now and there are new variants all the time, we are definitely still in a pandemic. Even if it's starting to wind down, it's still not over :(

Yo that shit almost gave me a heart attack

Nah dunno what the fuck that was lmao random jumpscare

Oh I'm not alone then lol

I'm not sure how the static got in that section of the video and much louder than usual! My bad, editing mistake🙏🏽

@@Andrewism mustve been a copy paste mistake or something lmao, cause i do that all the time and thats how it typically looks

honestly agreed, couchsurfing is environmentally sustainable as well, even more so than flying, and flying is already pretty environmentally sustainable. well, unless we're talking abt flight schedules of celebrities, who want to pass by the nearest grocery store that apparently is 5 countries away...

You’re right I’ll just….take a train across the Atlantic

@@eos_aurora or maybe just support local businesses 👀 there's more that may look like what you want than you may think