Are You Happy With The New Look Defence In Toronto? w/ Chris Johnston

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Steve Dangle, Adam Wylde and Jesse Blake are joined by Chris Johnston to discuss the Toronto Maple Leafs new look defence.
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@atopermusic Ай бұрын

Every cup team has a #1 defence guy and unfortunately this is just yet another year where they don't have that. Tanev's contract is going to be an anchor sooner than you think

@jamesnewman48 Ай бұрын

very true. and he is still the best defensemen on the team which tells you how average the others are.

@pantsumonster Ай бұрын

Rielly is sick

@v4v819 Ай бұрын

Last time i checked the Leaf's have 6 defensemen on their squad. The same amount as every cup winning team... PLAY ON!!!!!!! 😏

@seanweatherson534 Ай бұрын

Not exactly, I’m assuming by number 1 defencemen you’re basically referring to elite defencemen who are roughly top 10 defenders in the league. Look at Florida, are you telling me Montour is an elite top 10 defenceman? They had basically an entire D-core of top 4 defenders, that’s how they won the cup. I’d say the leafs defence this upcoming year is similar, but not as good, as Florida’s from last season.

@v4v819 Ай бұрын

@@seanweatherson534 This key aquisition is a game changer for the Leaf's blue line. It means finally they have defense to match their offense! We will be chanting D-Core next year not Core 4. On the way to a Cup emergence! Go Leaf's Go! :)

@vipeholmskolan6052 Ай бұрын

OEL will be good for the first 2-3 years of that deal. Ship him later will work.

@szahmad2416 Ай бұрын

It'll do for a start. I think if we're going to make the Cup, it'll be a flash in the pan thing; this year or never, because of how Berube helped St. Louis won it; then watched as St. Louis collapsed after the captain Petrangelo left for Vegas (where he won another one last year). The key is that Berube understands where the work needs to be done if you want to go deep in the playoffs: defensively and in net, as he showed with the first moves St. Louis made after he got onboard, bringing Binnington up from the minors and getting their defensive game to be near-flawless. NO MORE getting show horses at the front end at the expense of the back end; Toronto has far more than enough (likely too many).

@ryanswiggs Ай бұрын

Chris Johnston is great

@jamesnewman48 Ай бұрын

nope because the leafs are always getting players at the end/last phase of their careers.

@donniedoesdishes Ай бұрын

and guys that never have won

@3flavourscornetto237 Ай бұрын

@@donniedoesdishesdonna get off the internet get a job

@theevilascotcompany9255 Ай бұрын

Not true, the Leafs also get players that leave the team and win Stanley Cups.

@Tyekiller115 Ай бұрын

@@donniedoesdishesoel didn’t win?

@donniedoesdishes Ай бұрын

@@Tyekiller115 yep he was the whole reason florida won

@TheDeliveryDoctor Ай бұрын

Years ago toronto had a good defence and, as usual, were on the cusp of ‘winning the big one’. They had a stay at home defenceman who took care of business in front of the net. Apparently he wasn’t flashy enough for Leafs brass and they let him walk that summer. Bob Rouse went on to win his Stanley Cup with Detroit. Detroit finally had a defenceman who took care of business. I always rued the day Rouse left, cuz when he was here he made it possible for the other defence do what they did best. I see Tanev as the Leafs’ new takin’ care of business defenceman - their new Bob Rouse! Looking forward to next season for sure now.

@dcz2899 Ай бұрын

What about Larry Murphy who was booed out of Toronto and traded for nothing to Detroit?

@TheDeliveryDoctor Ай бұрын

@@dcz2899 yup… the list is endless - Kessel apparently didn’t try hard enough - and won his cup excelling for another team. Leafs insist on drafting small(er) exceptionally skilled players, cuz, you know, they’re skilled - then media and fans complain that they need more grit. Player takes it heart and underperforms as they try to find ‘grit’. If they want grit then draft grit - to compliment their skilled players. But don’t ask the grits to score 100 points or the skilled to become a hitting machine. That’s not how teams are built - not winning teams anyway!

@ianlemoine8424 21 күн бұрын

Jani Hakanpää walks into the Leafs lineup as one of, if not the best defenseman they have. Obsessing over injury riddled puck movers who can't move bodies, block shots, or clear zones safely has been a sore spot on the Leafs for 6 years. You need players to shut down top lines on the rush and the cycle. Their possession and keep away strategy breaks down under any heavy fore check.

@garrisonassance-monague6270 14 күн бұрын

Why do these leafs always love these Swedish offensive defensive men so much. They never pan out

@dix_neuf Ай бұрын

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@johnmaillet Ай бұрын

OK there are a lot of options right now on D, assuming they gel for the most part and not suffer too many injuries; this core would be the quite sound going into the playoffs without even having to make a trade deadline upgrade.

@jamesruscheinski8602 Ай бұрын

if Tanev not play top pair defense, would help to acquire top pair defenseman?

@Devesci 18 күн бұрын

I will be happy with Leafs defense, if Liljegren can show more confidence and grit this year. He needs to be a second pair player.

@baylaust Ай бұрын

I don't think anyone can argue in good faith that it's not an objective improvement over what they had last year. Tanev alone fills a hole in their defense that has existed for like a DECADE now. But what the contracts tell me is that they're REALLY banking on their next two years being "the one," because the ENDS of those contracts are clearly gonna be a serious anchor if the Leafs haven't made serious strides towards a cup by then.

@donniedoesdishes Ай бұрын

justin holl did exactly what tanev does but cheaper

@peacebringer8 Ай бұрын

@@donniedoesdishes and WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY worse

@donniedoesdishes Ай бұрын

@@peacebringer8 3 yrs younger , holl help toronto make the playoffs , but tanev couldnt help calgary even with make the playoffs with markstrom in net

@peacebringer8 Ай бұрын

@@donniedoesdishes Toronto hasn't missed the Playoffs with or without Holl though, that is not a difference maker. Tanev was insanely important for Dallas last season to both make the playoffs as well as have a pretty deep run. He got injured in the end and the team lost to the Oilers. But whenever he was in the ice, McKinnon, for example, had 0 points throughout the playoffs against him.

@donniedoesdishes Ай бұрын

@@peacebringer8 oettinger bailed him out and the only reason he looked good against the avs was because their top scorer decided to choose drugs over winning dont twist it , dallas was already in the playoffs before tanev got there , tanev didnt help calgary at all

@McLeaner99 Ай бұрын

OEL is really not very good. I know he won the cup this year, but it was not because of him. That was pretty much all Forsling and Montour on the backend. Tanev is a good player but he’s so old. A long term contract for him seems insane especially given he seems to gets injured quite a bit.

@FINsoininen Ай бұрын

OEL is great for the money. Only reason people see him as bad is that he was payed 8m two years ago.

@miguelh4750 Ай бұрын

Tanev on the downslop... yeah

@ksteele8388 Ай бұрын

Nothing is going to change..the problem wasnt defense in the playoffs..it was the group cant score worth a sh!t when it matters

@dertfert745 Ай бұрын

Defenseman are part of the offense too...

@KP-05 Ай бұрын

I like it. Looking forward to it. Just want Marner and Tavares gone

@ed230 Ай бұрын

Hakka will be ready second half of the season...big addition on the right.. buckle up

@chuckmaloney1298 Ай бұрын

Benoit!

@jamesruscheinski8602 Ай бұрын

could McCabe play top pair defense with Reilly?

@ratedRblazin420 Ай бұрын

Tanev will barely play 50% of the season

@dertfert745 Ай бұрын

He's played over 50% of the games in every season since he broke into the league as a full-time player (2012-13)

@biffstrong1079 Ай бұрын

Tanev isn't a big hitter. He's a second pair guy. He was the fourth guy in Calgary and Dallas. I Like OEL and he played first pair minutes for the first 20-30 games for Florida. He's the only guy they have who has ever been a legitimate first pair defenseman. Haakinpaa can't play anymore.

@ajm1268 Ай бұрын

No because morgan reilly is still there 😊

@janetmcivor6805 Ай бұрын

This year is a mini rebuild . Defense is rebuilding, so is goaltending. Still need a centre and winger. a cup contender with this many needs, nope small rebuild.

@SirDeerock Ай бұрын

A rebuild implies ramping up to get better. They added a 32, 33, and 34 year old defensemen all to multi-year deals. This year is the best this defense is going to be which tells us they are planning to contend... This mediocre roster says otherwise.

@MaliciousIntent83 Ай бұрын

It doesn't matter!

@acanadianineurope814 Ай бұрын

youre right it wont help

@acanadianineurope814 Ай бұрын

old, injury prone, and no depth. 2 injuries and this team is headed for the basement

@user-zt6ih5pp6d Ай бұрын

How was gio at 34 just saying

@alltheworldsastage. Ай бұрын

Kleinberg?

@chasekirby3787 Ай бұрын

It was a one year deal and I don’t think they’re too keen on bringing him back

@blazed99 Ай бұрын

Leafs will do same thing they did with hyman..let marner walk and he will go be absolutely fantastic or even win a cup somewhere else...the player that needs to go is jt...

@ogGILMOURRR Ай бұрын

nope

@rayevans7484 Ай бұрын

Tanev cannot sustain 20 minutes a ngiht 82 games a year. OEL is not a top 4 D man that can handle 82 games either. With minimal input from their bottom 6 in crunch time, and their defensive depth questionable....goaltending a huge question mark....how far can they go? Not far.

@kaiosousa4284 14 күн бұрын

How about sending Marner and Liljegren to Florida for Ekblad, Luostarinen, and Verhaeghe?

@mattsmith6857 Ай бұрын

It’s the right direction to have better Defense, but it’s not enough. You still have overpaid soft forwards taking up too much of your cap Shanahan Dubas destroyed our chances. We need to move 2 of the core 4.

@marcgallant5270 Ай бұрын

Still one of the worse defensive group of all playoff bound teams. Another year they don't have a single top pairing defensemen. Last year OEL had 32 pts in the regular season and 6 pts on the playoffs... what resurgence?

@chrisbee9643 Ай бұрын

Nyes... It got from bad to meh...

@user-xg8ig6zx5r Ай бұрын

TML should have gone after Roy or Pesce who can actually play 1st pair minutes. This team as is a guaranteed 1st round playoff exit!

@FflopsNtanktops 27 күн бұрын

Overpaid and will underperform 😂

@drogontargaryen3428 Ай бұрын

Its a terrible defence core

@gravityguy972 Ай бұрын

Team still sucks

@johnsummerhill8323 Ай бұрын

So do your Habs. In fact, the Habs are worse.

@donniedoesdishes Ай бұрын

@@johnsummerhill8323 he is like me a florida fan and the last time the leafs and habs played when it counted , the playoffs we all know how that ended , leafs moto first round or bust

@johnsummerhill8323 Ай бұрын

@@donniedoesdishes Sure Donna . Back to your dishes.

@Rain.34.89 Ай бұрын

They don’t suck, they’re just not good enough to win a Cup.

@johnsummerhill8323 Ай бұрын

@@Rain.34.89 No Canadian team wins the Cup.

@crowt244 Ай бұрын

if they EVER get past a 2nd round in the playoffs then we'll talk - disgruntled Leafs fan

@Dratchev241 Ай бұрын

at this point honestly they have to make the SCF or it is all pointless.

@crowt244 Ай бұрын

@@Dratchev241 exactly

@ThePalisky Ай бұрын

the OEL signing is really bad, not quite as bad as Korpisalo but it has the same problem...too much money and too much term for a guy who should be playing lower in the lineup.

@johnsummerhill8323 Ай бұрын

No one knows if they are good deals or not until a number of games are played.

@ThePalisky Ай бұрын

@@johnsummerhill8323 if you don't know anything that's true but we know OEL is already a 3rd pair guy and he's 33 with low point production

@johnsummerhill8323 Ай бұрын

@@ThePalisky Wait until around the end of November before you decide whether he can still play or not.

@ThePalisky Ай бұрын

@@johnsummerhill8323 I don't have to because that's not how you evaluate deals. It's a 4 year term. He wasn't a $3.5 million player this past year, there is no reason to expect him to miraculously become one this year and stay that way for 3 years after especially at his age.

@johnsummerhill8323 Ай бұрын

@@ThePalisky Let me know where you bought your crystal ball. I am sure every GM in the league would like to have one.