Are You Programming Your Metal Drums Correctly? with Scott Elliott
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I’m Scott from Chernobyl Studios, and I’m just like you: a home studio musician and mixing engineer. From the beginning of my journey, all I ever wanted was to have a big, massive, metal guitar tone for my music.
In 2013, I started to study mixing and tone crafting more seriously so I could bring this desire to life. What I didn’t know was that I was venturing into a world of conflicting information and secrecy. Maybe it sounds a bit dramatic, but how many times have you seen a video on KZfaq that claimed you could “sound like the pros in minutes,” just to find out they have thousands of dollars in gear and plugins and really didn’t explain anything anyway? These videos never helped me get a better idea of how to create my guitar tones.
I wasted money on plugins I didn’t need, followed advice that wasn’t helpful, and made every mistake you can think of multiple times over. 6 years of frustration later and I now know what it actually takes to great amazing guitar tones.
You don’t need thousands of dollars in amps, heads, guitars, cables, pedals, or anything like that-you can even use completely free plugins. All you need is a simple method that you can follow step-by-step and practice. The Guitar Tone Mastery course is that method.
I also just released a BRAND NEW course, Metal Drum Programming Mastery, where I will teach you how to create the ‘feel’ of an actual drummer.
In this course, I’m going to not only teach you how to master the technical side of drum programming, but show you a 5-step system which will speed up your workflow immensely.
More importantly, you’ll discover how to make drum programming a CREATIVE and MUSICAL process, which you can enjoy just as much as writing guitar riffs.
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@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Comment your questions for Scott below, and let me know what you thought of the video!
@serge1643 3 жыл бұрын
I just needed this video, thank you for sharing it.
@Czyszy 3 жыл бұрын
The best advice that's been given to me regarding drum programming is "transcribe your favorite drummers' grooves".
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome Serge!
@CrushingAxes 3 жыл бұрын
How to achieve this level of beard greatness!
@ChernobylAudio666 3 жыл бұрын
@@CrushingAxes Patience and beard oil! haha
@AlexeySolovievMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Huge Congrats Scott on releasing your new course. All of your courses are super great and super knowledgeable ! Can’t wait to take this one! And Huge Thanks to Warren for promoting such a great talents! You Guys Rock! 😀👍🔥🔥🔥
@ChernobylAudio666 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the continued support Alexey, I'm happy to help !
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks ever so much Alexey!!
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChernobylAudio666 Marvellous
@Pasta221 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you on the channel! And nice to see a big badass beard too
@ChernobylAudio666 3 жыл бұрын
The beard gives me the secret power! :D
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Haha badass beard!
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Famous for your beard Scott!!
@junkawakami3193 3 жыл бұрын
for 32nd note double kick i found 90-110 range sounds at the very least, realistic. and when it comes to single strokes (that means traditional blasts) no more than 90 on cymbals while 80 on snare is the best way to go (that also depends on whether the library splits between rimshots and center hits, too). also for dominant hand it's always 8-16 velocities higher than the other hand. at least that's how i approach metal drum programming anyway!
@ChernobylAudio666 3 жыл бұрын
Very much depends on the tempo! If it's very mid-paced like at 120bpm, it's quite realistic to play loudly since it's so slow. But the faster it goes, the lower the velocities have to come down, so you make good points!
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChernobylAudio666 thanks for sharing!
@williamtell1477 3 жыл бұрын
Scott you're a badass and a fantastic teacher! Been a huge fan since taking Guitar Tone Mastery, been waiting for this new course!
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Scott Rocks! Awesome, thank you!
@ChernobylAudio666 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you William for the kind words! It's a pleasure to help!
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic!!
@DimebagDoogle 2 жыл бұрын
Superb! This has helped me immensely thank you so much, :)
@DarkSideofSynth 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely wonderful.
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks ever so much!!
@andygreen5565 3 жыл бұрын
This is gold. Thanks
@ChernobylAudio666 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andy!
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChernobylAudio666 Marvellous
@borogove 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, this was very productive! Thanks a lot!
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks ever so much
@ksaavedra_Immortalbelovedmusic 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Scott! This would've helped me loads years ago when I was trying to figure this stuff out but I still learned some cool tricks from you!
@ChernobylAudio666 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to help man !!
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks ever so much Keith!
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChernobylAudio666 you Rock!
@splashesin8 3 жыл бұрын
I wish my neural transmissions worked like I want them to for drumming. I love listening to people in control of theirs. Maybe I could use something like this to practice narrowing my spark plug gaps in less hours than usual on any day. Meanwhile I need to check on a few drummers in my instagram feed I have missed for almost a year now. It's an ongoing puzzle of how to grab time metaphorically and physically. 🙂
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks ever so much for sharing Audrey!!
@wyrlismike 3 жыл бұрын
I for one would like to see more on programming drums on this channel
@CrushingAxes 3 жыл бұрын
Scott is a really cool guy ! Always helpful videos ! Also a very nice beard!
@ChernobylAudio666 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to help! Thanks for watching :)
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed! We are huge fans of Scott's here!
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChernobylAudio666 no comment on the beard! Haha
@CrushingAxes 3 жыл бұрын
@@Producelikeapro 🤣😂🤣😂😂
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
@@CrushingAxes haha
@toddgreenwood9631 3 жыл бұрын
I'm no a metal guy but I watched the whole thing. Very Nice. If I tried to play that on drums there would be a lot of sticks hitting mics and rims. So, need some samples of the mic getting hit by a stick to make it sound like it came out of my shop.
@ChernobylAudio666 3 жыл бұрын
SSD5.5 does have some rimclicks for snare and each of the toms hahah
@toddgreenwood9631 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChernobylAudio666 Perfect! So I just put them in random spots pushing the beat way too much and - there's my 'feel'.
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great comment Todd!
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChernobylAudio666 marvellous!
@frankvalenciamusic Жыл бұрын
🤯 wow man ... Thanx a lot
@twodeepupyours508 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and that was just a whiff of what he's stepping in 👍
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Haha indeed
@ChernobylAudio666 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man :D
@iwantappledumplings6187 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChernobylAudio666 YES!! LOL
@erock.steady 3 жыл бұрын
noice - i'm subbed to chernobyl as well as pro like a pro. imagine... MY surprise! it's like i just made plans to get stoned during break and not make it back for lab after lecture lol that's to say ima pull an all-nighter. EDIT: weeell the surprise is my own to imagine..! it's different content. looks like stoner friends are gonna go without me this time.
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
That's amazing Erock!
@DennisTrovato 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, man. Whatever happened to the mixing streams. Really missing those.
@ChernobylAudio666 3 жыл бұрын
Was exceptionally busy putting MDPM together, took a metric ton of work... but now I'll finally be able to do something else. We did get the vocals for the track, though, so we can finish that ;)
@DennisTrovato 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChernobylAudio666 Thats nice
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Scott! More mixing streams! Haha
@ChernobylAudio666 3 жыл бұрын
@@Producelikeapro I need to clone myself ! :D
@Lonewolf77799 Жыл бұрын
What is the shortcut to split notes and where do i download the midi note selector? great video im a big scott fan
@mr.x1478 9 ай бұрын
This is a very isnpiring and informative creartive.
@genuinefreewilly5706 3 жыл бұрын
OH man that was great! You and Adam keep showing me some cool shit with Reaper. Frankly I am not that fond of the piano roll and the selection tool, its me and my age and grabbing on to it and I have a crappy scroll wheel on my mouse
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic William! Thanks ever so much for sharing
@ChernobylAudio666 3 жыл бұрын
I hear you, even if I didn't play Quake, I would be buying gaming mice anyway for the extra control and precision for programming haha
@erock.steady 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChernobylAudio666 yeah niiiice i used to left hand the g-13, a half-keyboard sized keypad with an analog thumbstick. at the time in my right hand was the g-600, a mouse with an entire keypad's complement of buttons on the side. each on it's own had immediately discernible impacts on many facets of various stages of the productive processes of creative fields thru their multiple phases, most notable while engaged in processes benefiting from rapid iteration. when used together? sofa king BEASTMODE. absolutely worth the time and effort required to customize each on case-by-case bases.
@genuinefreewilly5706 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChernobylAudio666 Cat fur, coffee and other beverages are not good around my half baked musical cockpit and mice, but heck Ive got a nice window view I go through mice faster than my animals can catch them :)
@balialofficialband8236 2 жыл бұрын
I AM NEW TO THIS HOW DO I GET THE MIDI NOTE SELECTOR TO OPEN? & WHAT DO I NEED TO SET UP IN THE EVENT PROPERTYS TO MAKE THIS WORK?
@ericolson326 3 жыл бұрын
My kingdom for a metal-friendly pattern-based drum sequencer VST!
@Vincent-iy3ig 3 жыл бұрын
I'm really interested in this course. Drums and percussion are definitely the area where my musical knowledge is weakest. I'm not looking to programme metal drums per se, but was interested to know whether this course would help with other styles of music?
@alfiesolomon3531 Жыл бұрын
Can't find the full course Metal Drum Programming Mastery?
@thespotlights9278 2 жыл бұрын
So, why is the course no longer available?
@applegarden2448 2 жыл бұрын
where is it available?
@dEaFTOLiGhT 27 күн бұрын
What plugin are you using to make drums?
@CatFish107 Жыл бұрын
not just a black metal riff, but the tone of the guitar sound too. The texture made me think in grainy black and white footage.
@dirface 3 жыл бұрын
26:27 vocals were short but sweet!
@timothyzdroik890 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Scott how you been
@dave1812 3 жыл бұрын
which DAW is this?
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, Scott uses Reaper!
@theguvner83 2 жыл бұрын
What happened to the course?
@pipelineaudio 3 жыл бұрын
Because: REAPER...you're welcome
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@Derpadeedooda Жыл бұрын
How do I get my midi editor to behave like this?
@wyrlismike 3 жыл бұрын
Just curious, for the people bagging on the fact the drums are programmed, how do you feel about using an e-kit and playing through a sampler? Still blasphemy? Or better?
@unlimitedgnar1955 3 жыл бұрын
Hey comments. Anybody wanna connect and make a metal song? I can do vocals/screams like Corey Taylor obviously not as good. I’m an edm/hip hop/trap/dubstep producer mostly but I wanna make a metal song so gawd Dan bad but I can’t play any instruments to make a good instrumental
@kingloser4198 3 жыл бұрын
26:27
@TravisHY 3 жыл бұрын
This wasn't fast enough for me, so I watched the whole thing at 2x speed and now I need a nap.
@samuelellringmann3424 3 жыл бұрын
Haha I feel you! I'm creating the salespages for these courses, so I've watched a lot of them at 1.5x speed :D Metal courses are brutal!!!
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Haha too funny Travis!
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
@@samuelellringmann3424 Haha watch them at x3!! Haha
@TravisHY 3 жыл бұрын
@@samuelellringmann3424 It always makes me think, "Am I watching a video about drum programming or am I just overhearing every conversation that ever happened at a rave? We may never know."
@tommibjork 3 жыл бұрын
What would be more metal than programming?
@EmperorWelkin 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a song that needs vocals. :)
@ChernobylAudio666 3 жыл бұрын
We'll have to fix that...
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Haha indeed!
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChernobylAudio666 indeed!
@SnowAngelfish 2 ай бұрын
Interesting,,Just learned that metal drums programming is probably the easiest there is because the patterns are so basic. Cool ..
@cimmerian100 3 жыл бұрын
If you're programming Drums you're not doing Metal correctly :p
@cimmerian100 3 жыл бұрын
Just kidding :D, sounds great
@Billy982810 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry to say. I'm a drummer, and you you get rid of me you just lost the best part of the band. I cant even listen to this crap...
@ChernobylAudio666 3 жыл бұрын
I'm also a drummer, and many guitarists need to understand how we play drums so that when they come up with musical ideas and then transition to find a drummer to play the parts, they are realistic and complete, which can give us drummers a much better idea of what they're looking for.
@freezingcathedral 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChernobylAudio666 i just do generic beats and fills and let my drummer write his own parts based on the feel i prototyped. that seems to communicate the ideas clearly enough.
@ChernobylAudio666 3 жыл бұрын
@@freezingcathedral Totally cool !
@thesongacademy5017 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody is getting rid of the Drummer Billy, this is for people who done;t have a drummer, working from home studios, who don't have access to a rehearsal room, maybe even still live at home with their parents or in a studio apartment or just want to create great demos, again without access to a live drummer.
@stormshadow2k 3 жыл бұрын
I do this on my solo stuff because I don't have access to any drummers with time and inclination to play on my stuff, lol, BUT I would trade programmed drums for a real human player any day of the week. Its just... programmed. And all the humanisation and velocity edits cannot change that. Its soulless, gridded and lifeless and more to the point passionless.
@ruddmedia Жыл бұрын
fuck programming! grooves are all you need to put together saves time and headaches!
@TheCoffinDaggers 3 жыл бұрын
Do you really like to listen to fake drums?
@joeyt2112 3 жыл бұрын
Why are we programming these drums? Can’t you find a drummer so it has some life? This isn’t music.
@Czyszy 3 жыл бұрын
There are people like me who can't find a drummer. :( Also, this absolutely is music.
@thesongacademy5017 3 жыл бұрын
@@Czyszy correct!!
@thesongacademy5017 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody is getting rid of the Drummer JT, this is for people who don't have a drummer, working from home studios, who don't have access to a rehearsal room or a live room with loads of mics, maybe they still live at home with their parents or in a studio apartment or just want to create great demos, again without access to a live drummer.
@klauth_Yksyn 3 жыл бұрын
This is exactly why today's metal sucks. Go and listen to, "Battery" !!! And emperiance REAL metal that's played by REAL humans.
@ChernobylAudio666 3 жыл бұрын
You mean the Master of Puppets album by Metallica? The one where Rasmussen had everyone detune slightly and play to a slowed tape, and then he sped everything back up again? It doesn't matter how it's done, only the final result matters. If it sounds good, it's music my friend. :)
@jorgosagb 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChernobylAudio666 Yeah Rasmussen did do that. I think todays possibilities are great. We're able to create complete songs, even if you don't have a drummer. Furthermore, I'm just assuming that this is just a small part of the complete picture and that you would bring in some dynamics tricks in order to make it sound more organic. Anyway, for people who are starting out, I think it's a great lesson. I do prefer real drums but, as said, that's not a possibility for many people. Keep up the good work Scott!
@ChernobylAudio666 3 жыл бұрын
@@jorgosagb The original video was over an hour, and yes, some stuff had to hit the cutting-room floor, unfortunately :(
@klauth_Yksyn 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChernobylAudio666 says a guy that was how old, when that song was cut? Too many pro tools jocky's...posing as pseudo "Engineers"...driving metal into a fake realm.
@williamtell1477 3 жыл бұрын
Back in the day, I was working in a recording studio on a big label record. One day the money guy came in to see how the sessions were going. Big LA exec. We were sitting on the couch in the lounge and the video for a new Metallica song from the black album came on MTV. He asked me what I thought about it. I loved the "real" Metallica and hated that album and their short haircuts and I told him I thought it sucked and they sold out. What he said was, "well I like it, and some other people seem to like it too". Whoever that guy was, he taught me something about my opinions that day. Funny thing is, I like that album now. (Baterry is way better tho, imho ;)
@nicoras8803 3 жыл бұрын
If you can do that all why do you need any band at all. Just create the "music" you want, whether this sounds like the real thing is debatable. I am starting to wonder if audiophiles know they are listening to a computer as opposed to real music. What I can say it has absolutely no character at all. It is just a bunch of noise with no real dynamics at all. If you think about it I spent over $200K on a reproduction system for the enjoyment of music. Maybe I should have bought a mixing desk and a PC and a set of headphones and make "music"and sound like I think it should. Do I make sense? I am of the opinion just kill Phil Collins and make any drum solo you want. Poison every guitarist or better still kill all musicians, they are not needed at all any more. I am sorry, but my interest in hi-fidelity is fading at a rapid rate because I don't know or recognize what I am listening to any more.
@klauth_Yksyn 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, and, well said sir
@thesongacademy5017 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Nico, firstly this is Modern Metal Music, nothing 'audiophile' about it. This video is for people who don't have a drummer, working from home studios, who don't have access to a rehearsal room or a live room with loads of mics, maybe they still live at home with their parents or in a studio apartment or just want to create great demos, again without access to a live drummer. The kind of music you want is heavily represented in other videos on Warren's channel, what I love about his channel is he's not a snob, he brings people together. Maybe check out some of he videos involving Strings, Brass sections and tons of other videos Warren does, rather than find something you hate to comment on? Wouldn't that make more sense?
@thesongacademy5017 3 жыл бұрын
@@klauth_Yksyn you identify with audiophiles? Don't understand why someone would want to programme their drums who doesn't have the access and money to pay someone like yourself to track them? There are MANY genres other than Modern Metal, (you should know that if you're a professional drummer) that use live drums.
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