How Songwriters Get Publishing Deals and Hit Songs

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Ari's Take

Ari's Take

2 жыл бұрын

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Nonstop Management founder and principal Jaime Zeluck Hindlin has signed, shepherded, and spearheaded the success of numerous GRAMMY® Award-winning multi-platinum songwriters and producers. In 2018, the roster ignited smashes such as Meghan Trainor’s “No Excuses” and “Let You Be Right,” XXXTentacion’s “Numb,” Jason Mraz’s “Have It All,” Young The Giant’s “Simplify,” and more as well as singles for Alesso, Bebe Rexha, Jack & Jack, Zara Larsson, and BTS.
3:00 Welcome
4:42 What does a music publisher do?
7:22 Pairing writers together and the purpose of writing sessions
14:35 The process of writing songs from movie briefs
15:28 To credit or not to credit
18:43 The Pact
22:33 Why you should negotiate the splits when the song is actually done
25:35 What it means to be a manager for songwriters and producers
26:58 From songs to the radio
29:19 Radio hits versus a big album cut
31:44 Songwriters asking for points on the master
34:17 The importance of your personality
39:15 The process of getting admin and co-publishing deals
43:06 Advice for aspiring songwriters
45:05 Does it matter where songwriters reside?
47:02 The downside of Zoom sessions
49:19 The stage of your pitched music and networking on social media
51:50 Final question
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@ArisTake
@ArisTake Жыл бұрын
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@d.goyenechea7866
@d.goyenechea7866 Ай бұрын
Great interview. You asked all the right questions and Jamie answered them authentically. Well done!
@willmcmillan1430
@willmcmillan1430 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Ari and Jaime, for a candid, inspiring conversation. I am particularly happy that Jaime ended by emphasizing the value/power of cultivating and maintaining respectful relationships (which seemed to be part of why she is OK with songwriters giving some of the ownership of their songs to artists who agree to record/release them). I also liked hearing about songwriters asking for a small piece of the master recordings made of their songs! It would be fascinating if you could do a video, Ari, interviewing a music business historian about how the interests of songwriters/publishers and record labels/artists and media companies (radio/movies/TV/downloading/streaming) have battled/evolved here in the USA ever since the days of the first piano rolls...
@arigumora
@arigumora 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been trying to figure out how this channel/show is SO UNDERRATED. Like you should have millions of subscriptions. This has been the most useful/informational music industry podcast and channel I’ve stumbled on 🔥 THANK YOU
@FieldOrder15
@FieldOrder15 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You! Excellent perspective from a Songwriter Manager’s point of view.
@ADHSo_undnichtanders
@ADHSo_undnichtanders Жыл бұрын
Sounds like writers are the least valued people in the business. To be honest this maybe is the reality of songwriters these days but she seems to care more about her own business than about her writers. Just don't be difficult ;) Giving away publishing for nothing? GO. Asking for points? NO GO. Thats why even the biggest writers don't look happy at all on their socials.
@DoodleDabble
@DoodleDabble 6 ай бұрын
Loved everything except for “You don’t want to be difficult”. Pick your battles, yes, but standing up for yourself is not being difficult.
@DoodleDabble
@DoodleDabble 6 ай бұрын
Stage actors don’t demand a portion of the scriptwriters’ income; why should recording artists do that?
@BatistaInvests
@BatistaInvests 4 ай бұрын
​@@DoodleDabbleIf I was starring in the film and I believe that it's going to be the next big hit, I would.
@aishawf
@aishawf 2 жыл бұрын
This is just a fantastic interview! Thank you Ari! 😊
@DancingBearshy
@DancingBearshy 2 жыл бұрын
Jamie is a sharp cookie, thanks for the insight Ari & Jamie!!
@PattyRichardson1
@PattyRichardson1 2 жыл бұрын
A great interview! Very enlightening!!!! Appreciated the questions asked and Jaime’s responses! Helpful to new aspiring songwriters!!! Thanks for sharing!!!! 👍
@georgestass
@georgestass Жыл бұрын
This was a very helpful and insightful video. Both your hosting and your guest were excellent in asking questions and in the answer’s given. Lots of very useful information.Thank you!! I’m a singer/songwriter and I did a search on KZfaq and your video came up. I’m glad I watched.🎶👍
@yacobcastro
@yacobcastro Ай бұрын
Ari with what happened at 24:34 needs to be fixed with those producers sending the label an inducement letter from the start as well as split sheet to avoid that legally.
@solaraslays
@solaraslays 5 ай бұрын
Super greatful for this interview. This conversation has made things very clear. Thank you for sharing. 🙏🏽❤️
@baigmusic
@baigmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ari and Jaime, very useful to learn about what goes on behind the scenes. Appreciate the tips on hitting up Dm's and getting affiliated with a PRO, peace and much love!
@stevierico5934
@stevierico5934 Жыл бұрын
Very sincere interview thank you for sharing your information
@payso1382
@payso1382 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼.. Thank you for all you do Ari 🙏🏼. Jamie was excellent 💯🙌🏼🙌🏼
@Grantborland
@Grantborland 2 жыл бұрын
Great interview, Ari! This is a side of the business I'm not nearly as familar with, so it's really eye opening to see how this all works! Thanks again!
@shotheicon6096
@shotheicon6096 Жыл бұрын
💎💎💎💎💎💎 nothing but gems 💎
@derrickturner7163
@derrickturner7163 10 күн бұрын
There are average songs , and then there are great songs. A professional song writer should know a great song when he hears one.
@UNREDACTEDTRUTH
@UNREDACTEDTRUTH 11 ай бұрын
What an INCREDIBLE INTERVIEW!! You are BOTH AMAZING! Ari- your interview style is one of the BEST I've seen and Jamie is SO thorough yet natural in her responses. BRILLIANT! I wasn't bored for even a MOMENT!
@marlowdurden5330
@marlowdurden5330 4 ай бұрын
I also don't believe anyone should make changes on material that they did not produce or write. If the original concet or the songs intent is the most important thing to the writer.
@arielhill5711
@arielhill5711 6 ай бұрын
Yes 😍 love the songwriter specific content. Thank you!
@glovader
@glovader 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic interview! I can't wait to contact her.
@jerryhancock7097
@jerryhancock7097 Жыл бұрын
very helpful info
@t.yagainmusic
@t.yagainmusic 4 ай бұрын
Watching this was nice
@rexchiquine6049
@rexchiquine6049 4 ай бұрын
i love that couch,,,
@bakkoarmour
@bakkoarmour Жыл бұрын
Great Video
@ArisTake
@ArisTake Жыл бұрын
thanks!
@williecolonmusic
@williecolonmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Ari You're Great!!!!
@ArisTake
@ArisTake 2 жыл бұрын
glad you enjoy! thank you!
@WholeFoodPlantPeople
@WholeFoodPlantPeople 4 ай бұрын
Should we register the song before sending it to managers so that we can protect ourselves?
@opportunityknocks3088
@opportunityknocks3088 3 ай бұрын
Her writers get stepped on😂
@iamjarrettdean9358
@iamjarrettdean9358 2 жыл бұрын
Very VERY interesting interview Ari! And Jaime is great. Very knowledgeable and forthright and most importantly to me, genuine. My friend Dan Couch co-wrote Hey Pretty Girl and Truck with Kip Moore but he had to "play the game" for 17 yrs in Nashville networking before being placed with Kip in a writing session. Same thing with my friend Hal, who I've known and played in bands with for 20 yrs. He networkEd and is just a nice guy and out of the blue 6 yrs ago has been Joan Jetts bassist. Although I choose to believe his success came from karma and just being a good dude. It's unfortunate you have to "play the game" so much, but it's a good life lesson in general. I LOVE Jaimes thought process of "keep it moving." I've always been a songwriter of a Ryan Adams, Jason Mraz, alt bands of the 90s like goo goo dolls or mb20 that do their own writing within so I was surprised to hear maroon 5 uses outside songwriters. Great job Ari! 🎉
@ryancrarymusic
@ryancrarymusic 2 жыл бұрын
So what’s the difference between writers and artists in this context other than what seems to be a certain amount of fame and money for the artist compared to writers?
@ArisTake
@ArisTake 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Ryan, two different copyrights / different royalty streams / different payment companies. Simply, what if you covered my song? You'd be the Artist I'd be the Songwriter. You get all the money from master royalties (Artist share) and I get all royalties from publishing (writers) This video should help: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b9dif6qApt_PoJ8.html
@g.p616
@g.p616 3 ай бұрын
STOP!!! Songwriters DON’T need a publishing deal. Publishing companies do NOT place songs or hookup writers with chart acts….. Publishing companies just collect royalties. Songwriters need to keep their publishing and HUSTLE with the major production and artist management companies of the day to get co-writing opportunities and trade their publishing share with those companies…. Follow the MONEY and the path forward is clear…..🤔
@marlowdurden5330
@marlowdurden5330 4 ай бұрын
If the song doesn't fir the Artist or isn't like by the artist, they shouldn't record it . they need to find someting more to their likeing and or style that fits the band or singers sound.
@thebigo8500
@thebigo8500 Жыл бұрын
#Oursideonlymarketingagency
@marlowdurden5330
@marlowdurden5330 4 ай бұрын
Hello, I beleive that if an artist didn't write or have a part in writing a song, should not, get any credit and any material they didn't write. If this is done, it diminish the the song writer as a writer also, false credit to the creator of that material.
@quintoncarroll5803
@quintoncarroll5803 3 ай бұрын
Is writing with AI help looked down upon?
@nofapobama
@nofapobama 10 ай бұрын
Written multiple charters for various artists. Not entirely sure on the credibility of this rep. Seems she might just have contacts and luck in the field. No real gems gleaned whatsoever.
@HiPolar
@HiPolar 2 жыл бұрын
If you live in Asia then I guess a songwriting career is pretty much outta the window...
@ArisTake
@ArisTake 2 жыл бұрын
team up with a local artist you believe in and write with them. start there.
@waldoweathers
@waldoweathers Жыл бұрын
Where you live has nothing to do with nothing, you can live on the moon, It's 2022 internet
@HoodHandyman
@HoodHandyman 11 ай бұрын
Ari you be interviewing some really hot girls straight up
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