Armored Core Lore: Leos Klein

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Жыл бұрын

An old raven who's efforts on Mars would bring peace but only for a short time before he turned that peace upside down with a rebellion of his own.

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@signalhunter2290
@signalhunter2290 Жыл бұрын
I think I have a rather insane theory regarding Klein, what if he was the Raven from MOA, but when he defeated Nineball, the AI had one last trick up its sleeve and hid itself within his AC and waited for the perfect opportunity to return. The Nineball AI would hijack Klein when he became a Human Plus in a attempt to regain control of something it lost, but it would distort, fusing Klein's mind with the Nineball AI at the front. Perhaps from just seeing how much of Mars was just a battlefield thanks to the constant fighting from the corps, the Nineball AI decided that the current state of Mars is a lose cause and needs to reset from scratch, including removing his own allies so he could lead the new world by himself, like he did in the past. It maybe the reason why Klein decides to tell the Raven where to completely destroy Phobos, it wasn't the Nineball AI in control at that time, but Klein himself, perhaps in a way to atone for he has done, but history is written by the victors with both Klein and the Nineball AI asking the Raven, "What is it that you wish?"
@watching.learning
@watching.learning Жыл бұрын
Pretty interesting. I never thought of it that way. Amazing!
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore Жыл бұрын
Its a good one after all we never really know when Leos got his human plus upgrades and since nine-ball is still running around in AC2AA its very possible this Ai was just jumping from server to server or ac in this case to hide away until it could find the perfect time to strike. I also like this idea as we ourselves are heading to a world where people want to stick chips and systems into the brain which again for medical purposes would be super to help people, the issue is like everything we know it would get abused so we very well could heading down a route of crippling a person without touching them.
@nickhighwind2369
@nickhighwind2369 Жыл бұрын
Finally someone else who has a similar theory to mine. The fact that he says "what is it that you wish" mixed with the callbacks to the way you find out nineball was an ai in the first one, how in the final battle he's actually an unmanned unit and that he wants to create the same system that we fought to destroy in two of the original games makes me think that this is exactly what happened to Klein. He got project phantasm'd.
@Toshinben
@Toshinben Жыл бұрын
I was looking for a comment like this. For all I see, Klein could easily be Hustler One. Even if not the Raven fro Master of Arena, Hustler One could have faked its 'death' at the hands of 'Leos Klein'. How many people would have personally witnessed the battle to dispute the claim?
@watching.learning
@watching.learning Жыл бұрын
Leos is AC1 pilot.
@goliathxanatos706
@goliathxanatos706 Жыл бұрын
Mad lad did it at last. Leos Klein will always be the best antagonist in the series. He’s a man who started out only doing things for himself but then realise his mistakes. Understanding human nature better than anyone else as he suffered under the rule of a AI during the Subterranean Era as well as witnessing/participating in the subsequent wars that followed after the destruction of said AI. Multifaceted character through and through. What’s even better is that he was right all along. That humans by nature cannot be trusted to carve a path for peace by themselves as war is always inevitable. Such a great character. Love the video 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
@andrewrogers3067
@andrewrogers3067 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic comment.
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore Жыл бұрын
Thank you Goliath and in return let me say enjoyed your comment too. He certain is a very human in his way even if in the end he seemed to be more machine then man.
@goliathxanatos706
@goliathxanatos706 Жыл бұрын
@@armoredcorelore indeed. It takes a man who’s seen both sides of subjugation to make such hard decisions seen in AC2
@Jaeger_Bishop
@Jaeger_Bishop Жыл бұрын
Truth be told, I wish we could have reasoned with Leos Kline. Still, he ended up freeing the Ravens through his end at the hands of the Raven.
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore Жыл бұрын
Hmm it certainly would have interesting lore and story wise, i mean what would leos have done with mars? Probos was going to crash into earth causing all the earth governments work to be wreaked possible forcing them underground again. Did he intend to build a new earth on mars and leave the old one to die?
@Jaeger_Bishop
@Jaeger_Bishop Жыл бұрын
@@armoredcorelore He likely saw the corporations as a threat to true peace for mankind. If so, using Phobos to destroy their power base would be the logical conclusion.
@chaosakazero
@chaosakazero Жыл бұрын
This video reminds me of series I knew long ago .
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore Жыл бұрын
I've already figured comments like you into my calculation.
@shokmusic_AC
@shokmusic_AC Жыл бұрын
@@armoredcorelore lol
@Niforse
@Niforse Жыл бұрын
I go by "Leos" in so many places because of this guy, so seeing this in my subscription feed scared me for a minute XD
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore Жыл бұрын
Ha ha ah i know that feeling.
@Sabbathfaax
@Sabbathfaax Жыл бұрын
So excited for gen 3 lore. I love the older games but gen 3 was when the lore got REALLY awesome imo
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore Жыл бұрын
I better get it right then ha ha.
@unknownas9705
@unknownas9705 Жыл бұрын
@@armoredcorelore artificial sky intensifies
@so14r3
@so14r3 Жыл бұрын
As someone who's gen 3 was my first ac, I'm looking forward to it
@shokmusic_AC
@shokmusic_AC Жыл бұрын
I love this video! Leos is my favorite character in all of Armored Core due to his complexity. When it comes to Klein, I'm always reminded of the quote, "You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villian." If he was the Ninebreaker of MOA, it almost makes his story arc tragic. I wonder if that is what Fromsoft was going for? There is a track called "King Lear" in AC2. The Shakespearean play of the same name dealt with an old monarch who goes insane while pulling off a series of political machinations. Coincidence?
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore Жыл бұрын
Rocking out tunes and history, your a on a roll Shok.
@__Xeese
@__Xeese Жыл бұрын
Ayy we got to one of my favorites! Never realized Leos’s H+ enhancements kept him looking young, tho it makes sense. Couldn’t imagine a dude in his 90’s doing something as demanding as piloting an AC lol Another fantastic vid ACLore! Can’t wait to get into the Gen 3 universe. Curious how you’ll cover the corporations of that era considering how ever present those three end up being
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind praise and they are going to be some of hardest videos i can feel it. But i said i would cover them all so into the game we go.
@fernandozavaletabustos205
@fernandozavaletabustos205 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the lore videos!
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for the kind words.
@Redguns4life
@Redguns4life 8 күн бұрын
Raven: Why, Klein? Why become the very thing you sought to destroy?! Leos: You don't get it, rebel. The old ways gave us what we lack now. Guidance, peace, order, a seemingly hot operator waifu that turned out to have catfished me to do it's bidding- Raven: The what now?
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore 2 күн бұрын
Ha ha =) Ah bless you klein.
@user-hb4om5iq3x
@user-hb4om5iq3x Жыл бұрын
If he is really the Raven of MOA, then it sounds like he do the same thing what Lana(aka. Nineball) did before.. Maybe he truly loved and understanded Lana in the end, so he decided do the same thing... Now they can meet each other in heaven or hell lol
@alexanderafxendiou8525
@alexanderafxendiou8525 8 ай бұрын
You remind me of another pilot I knew long ago, a rebel, I already figured someone like you into my calculations, it's my intention that you do not interfere with my plans, Leos klein line one of my favorites.
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore 8 ай бұрын
He did have some cracking lines like We all make mistakes. Don't you think, Raven? We humans need strict supervision. We cannot live on our own.
@alexanderafxendiou8525
@alexanderafxendiou8525 8 ай бұрын
@@armoredcorelore yeah that line is amazing also, Leos Klein is definitely my favorite AC pilot overall 👍💯
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore 8 ай бұрын
@@alexanderafxendiou8525 A good favourite to have, a lot of lore, cool lines and a kick ass ac.
@sesiomzero2603
@sesiomzero2603 Жыл бұрын
Your lore videos are always a joy to watch. I love AC since childhood and its nice to see someone going indepth with this franchise. Thank you 👍!
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore Жыл бұрын
Thank you for you kind words. It always warms my heart to hear people are enjoying my videos. =)
@kursk_kuku141
@kursk_kuku141 Жыл бұрын
3:43 Ngl… that was the coolest villain dialogue in armored core 2. Leos Klein VA sends chills to this day.
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore Жыл бұрын
credit to the va, he did a grand job at making Leos this villain we have come to love.
@kursk_kuku141
@kursk_kuku141 Жыл бұрын
@@armoredcorelore Plus out of all the armored core series. This one involves tiny bit of politics, revolution agains corporate companies. Plus the story, makes sense when Leos Klein started the insurrection and the letter he wrote.
@blagojpejov4155
@blagojpejov4155 Жыл бұрын
Leos Klein freed the Ravens but he s action caused Phobos to Hit Mars nice work man
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore Жыл бұрын
Thank you as always.
@love_ark
@love_ark Жыл бұрын
Your videos provide colorful information of the lore of Armored Core, at the same time stir up the comments below for open discussion and expressed theories on possible lore material. I thoroughly enjoy reading the comments box, after the video is over of course. You know I'm building up my 5th gen lore theories myself so I'm waiting patiently for your coverage. ^-^
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore Жыл бұрын
Well thank you love ark i like to think it these discussions and theories that keep ac in people mind. And oh excellent i love a good theory, i look forward to reading them as well as the many discussion we may have about the fifth gen lore as i am sure it will be quite the time.
@Lia_Lia381
@Lia_Lia381 Жыл бұрын
Shame we haven't really had an antagonist like Klein again after AC2 - one that you personally interact with (if i remember correctly anyway). Guess we'll see what AC6 holds in that regard. Also, anytime I heard someone say "Frighteners," I could only think of that movie with Michael J. Fox by the same name. Edit: oh, hold on there's Genobee from nexus, and the LR peeps.
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore Жыл бұрын
I mean we had chief but he was just not a very nice character and did not have the charm like Leos. And oh well once this weeks script is done i know what I'm watching.
@KeiNova
@KeiNova Жыл бұрын
I feel like I've overlooked the whole story of AC. Now I need to replay the games, just to find all this lore.
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore Жыл бұрын
Well i hope you have fun too as I'm off to replay ac3 again.
@joaovictornunessaraiva1525
@joaovictornunessaraiva1525 Жыл бұрын
Yooooo i can't wait for the next episode! Quality video as always, ACL!
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, it'll be a busy week for me.
@cannibalnoises4896
@cannibalnoises4896 Жыл бұрын
I have a theory that Klein is not us from MOA, but is hustler one that is way he says what he does and way his goal is to bring humanity back under control. That is why a 90 year old looks 40 as it is a machine, not a man. Why we also remind him of the MOA and AC1 pilots.
@armoredcoreexile
@armoredcoreexile Жыл бұрын
I like this theory.
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore Жыл бұрын
Possible my only counter to this is we do see a cutscene with some pilots in AC2 looking over a monitor. Then again there is nothing to say this is not Boyle and his sister. So really we're going with the ai hijacking a human plus raven making a name for themselves as Leos and going along trying to keep the peace. I dig it.
@cannibalnoises4896
@cannibalnoises4896 Жыл бұрын
@Armoredcorelore honestly I had not even taken human plus into account, with it H1 could just hijack body's to use. Could even tie in this is why murkaumo was allowed to conduct the experiments on ravens.
@SoftNSaltyBoii
@SoftNSaltyBoii Жыл бұрын
I just recently beat AC2 and about to start another age so seeing this is cool to have more context of Klein
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore Жыл бұрын
Nice, i hope you enjoy AC2 another age.
@Jackson-xr5dg
@Jackson-xr5dg Жыл бұрын
I always enjoy these videos. As a child growing up on the games I didn’t understand anything yet I always wanted to understand.
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore Жыл бұрын
Thank you for you kind words and i hope I'm helping people understand the lore in my own way.
@andriharlin7407
@andriharlin7407 Жыл бұрын
Omg, really happy with your story about leos klein. The story is actually typical fromsoft which is make us think and imagine. I played ac 1997 (japanese disk) without knowing anything about story, then us region pp and moa. Because of the japanese ac 1997 disk, i missed plus overweight save file. Really2 had blast that time. Missed ac2, but 100% ac2aa, ac3, sl, and 4. Really regret for missing 2, nexus, 9 breaker, lr, 4a, 5 and 5vd because of work. But because of your video i finally understand what i'm missing. will definitely play 6. Thanks for the great video.
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. I'm glad to hear my videos are helping and i hope to see you in ac6 fellow raven/lynx.
@CombineWatermelon
@CombineWatermelon 3 ай бұрын
He was right, you know
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore 3 ай бұрын
Yes he was. He just went about showing us the wrong way.
@shannonhogan2782
@shannonhogan2782 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos! Will you ever do any Gen 5 lore? V and VD are the only ones I never really played much and know the least about.
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much and yes i am slowly making my way up to them. After we're done with the 3rd gen, its onto 5th gen.
@natethegreat7967
@natethegreat7967 Жыл бұрын
@@armoredcorelore And then 6th gen after that. I’m excited.
@lananielsen9465
@lananielsen9465 Жыл бұрын
At least evidenced by the whole of AC1-AA, R/H1/L9 were right. Memetically the vertex that Jack0 makes is, in spirit a true borderless nation of AC drivers. Lastly, with Chief & Carol Dolly, thier AI came to be born post GD. Blue Pulverizers, Seraph and a digital ghost of a friend. I wonder how grand and intoxicating the innocence of Rubicon’s last fighter will be by the sixth house and the brave unmourned?
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore Жыл бұрын
I am sure it will be epic and mean more theories, books and the fires of armored core fans to burning brightly once again in the darkness.
@nuclearrylaw7616
@nuclearrylaw7616 9 ай бұрын
Love the video, what led me to find this was trying to look into the cover AC of armored core 2 and see if it had a name and whatnot so just to make sure I got it correctly Loes Klein was the main AC pilot in the intro cutscene shooting down enemies and blowing up that base with the karasawa mk2?
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for the kind word and from what we know yes. This was Klein still working for Zio Matrix in the early stages of the mars development as at 1:42 in the opening you can see the red ring of Zio on his ac shoulder.
@James-oj6ru
@James-oj6ru Жыл бұрын
The theories that Leos Klein is truthfully Fritz Byne either due to seeing corporate coruption and how it only made things _worse then it was_ or Human Plus hijacking and distorting his minds would be extremely ironic. The man who's lives has been ruined by A.I is inflicting the same pain and same ideals of that A.I _A rebel you might say..._ but I have yet another weird theory *what about the Raven that started this?* the first "Nine Breaker", possibly the same one that gone through Project Phantasma as well. Maybe he's Leos Klein even if they don't share the same possible color scheme, he's the one that got asked "what is it that you wish?", he is the first to challenge the A.I and most evidentially of all... *Project Phantasma,* he's the one that experienced something similar to what Leos Klein did His age, him being in the first and possibly second game, human plus status without being codename, his experiences against Human Plus first-hand, and even him helping us out during Phobos's crashing and constantly calling us "Rebel" or "Raven" even compounds it as well... _though I do see some holes in this theory_
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore Жыл бұрын
Theory away! I think we have to accept that some history of ac is always going to leads to more questions then answers. But i think that's what makes its interesting.
@billyboleson2830
@billyboleson2830 Жыл бұрын
Someone mentioned that there was someone website that confirmed that Klein was MOA protag but ive yet to find a source on that
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore Жыл бұрын
Well if it can be found and proven great. However till then I'm going to stick to it's a theory.
@notdwaddler2013
@notdwaddler2013 Жыл бұрын
So why'd ya keep calling the operator Lana when it's Nell? Did the MoA brainrot hit?
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore Жыл бұрын
Nope a simple mistake on my part. My apologies.
@mariannarasauce
@mariannarasauce Жыл бұрын
Didn't all the Earth-aligned ravens get destroyed in the attack on the flying battleship? I would assume that's why you were the only available raven left for the attack on Phobos.
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore Жыл бұрын
Not that i have read or seen. But your make a good point that was another factor that should be taken account of.
@klackokel
@klackokel Жыл бұрын
I love his voice, so smooth. Who was his VA?
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore Жыл бұрын
You ask a good question as there as a lot of English VAs went uncredited for the work on AC2. But there is a list on IBM www.imdb.com/title/tt0380190/fullcredits/?ref_=tt_cl_sm so this may help.
@ACFoxeye
@ACFoxeye Жыл бұрын
And then Another Age was released in 2001 to let everybody know it just gets worse.
@metalgearexcelsus
@metalgearexcelsus Жыл бұрын
It doesn't get worse, just a routine.
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore Жыл бұрын
AC lore, it just pretty dam dark unless your formula front in which case happy times and sports problems.
@billyboleson2830
@billyboleson2830 Жыл бұрын
By AC standards its a paradise
@deforesttappan6478
@deforesttappan6478 Жыл бұрын
Out of all the Armor Core carters which one is your favorite if you have one?
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore Жыл бұрын
My favourite character? Oh that is tough. I admit i am quite fond of Shamir RaviRavi from ACFA so i guess she would be my favourite. I like her voice and Red Rum as a next.
@bgonzales817
@bgonzales817 Жыл бұрын
I always liked Leos Klein AC
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore Жыл бұрын
It is a cool AC.
@touchgrasspeep
@touchgrasspeep Жыл бұрын
Referring to Nell Aulter as Lana…bruh
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore Жыл бұрын
My apologies its a fair call out. Especially when its on the screen ACL, you stupid boy!
@armoredcoreexile
@armoredcoreexile Жыл бұрын
Well done ACL, glad to see this today of all days.
@armoredcorelore
@armoredcorelore Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ace, hope all is well on your end.
@armoredcoreexile
@armoredcoreexile Жыл бұрын
@@armoredcorelore getting closer and closer to getting my laptop back. And then we begin refreshed.
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