Arrival Procedures for EAA AirVenture Oshkosh

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4 күн бұрын

Preparing to fly to EAA AirVenture Oshkosh 2024 in a few weeks? Make sure to check out this video showing you how to make a safe approach and landing into Wittman Regional Airport.
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@klingterra
@klingterra Күн бұрын
I sure hope you show live everyone coming in with the ATC feed. I saw that one year and LOVED it!!
@GhostRider50918
@GhostRider50918 Күн бұрын
@@klingterra I am pretty sure they will again that was nice that they did that and forgot to add the that’s the first one and that’s July 19 Friday Cherokee - 11 a.m. - Cherokee for Mass Arrival Cessna - 5 p.m. - Cessna for Mass Arrival
@GhostRider50918
@GhostRider50918 2 күн бұрын
Do u know when the cams will be up and running I look forward to that
@markzhangMA261
@markzhangMA261 2 күн бұрын
Question: the correct landing method for Runway 18R shown in this video seems to contradict the NOTAM? The video suggest start base turn at the blue dot. However the NOTAM says: "Be on base by ATC tower or BLUE DOT". Which one is the correct way to turn base? In another video on the EAA AirVenture website, a tail dragger aircraft was instructed to turn base TOWARD the PINK dot, and the base to final turn appears to be well below the 200 ft suggested by this video. How should the landing be performed if we are instructed to turn base early?
@marcinband
@marcinband 2 күн бұрын
In that case, the controller likely saw the Taildragger had a low APP speed, and wanted to decrease their time in the air to allow the traffic behind to maintain their faster APP speed. Long landing clearances are issued to land "at or after" the dot, which allows an enormous latitude for aircraft to control their energy state. No aggressive maneuvers are required. More emphasis must be placed on practicing maneuvers to the point of comfort, and BOLDLY discouraging pilots without the sharpened skill-set to participate. We must be prepared to slip, and otherwise maneuver, with full flap at low energy and airspeed while maintaining situational awareness very near the ground in heavily congested airspace, with an audience of thousands. To any pilots who DO NOT feel comfortable with this; PLEASE do the right thing and bow-out of the fly-in portion. You will have a better time at the show with less stress, and make the airspace safer for all those around you.
@eryque
@eryque 4 сағат бұрын
The instructions when landing on 27 are almost always to stay "inside the gravel pit," which puts you on a downwind about 1/2 mile from the runway. Doable, but you gotta make a continuous 30° bank turn from downwind to final, no leveling the wings on base.
@planeplaces
@planeplaces 2 күн бұрын
Very well made! Can't wait for Airventure!
@thefencepost
@thefencepost 20 сағат бұрын
What happened to staying Inside the Gravel Pit? You show flying North or outside the gravel pit when the NOTAM instructs (and always has has instructed) to stay between the pit and the airport.
@heatshield
@heatshield 3 күн бұрын
“Habit pattern” okay that term is in my toolbox
@Jackjaberofficial
@Jackjaberofficial 3 күн бұрын
Good idea
@simonhughes-king8493
@simonhughes-king8493 2 күн бұрын
So the key is to descend to 500 agl on the downwind and keep the downwind and base leg on the wide side...
@DougMowry
@DougMowry 2 сағат бұрын
I have to say I’m really surprised that EAA sanctioned this video. Having flown into Airventure multiple times, I can say (and I’m sure others will agree) that this video directly contradicts the NOTAM. Further, I would be concerned that people would watch this and try to emulate the “proper way” demonstrated in the video and ignore the clear instructions in the NOTAM leading to problems for ATC and/or pilots in the pattern. The approach to 18 shows a stabilized approach by beginning the Base Leg turn abeam the Blue Dot. The NOTAM clear states that you should be ON Base by the Tower or Blue Dot, not starting there. By starting later you have given the false impression that you have more distance/time for your Base turn and subsequent turn to Final. The approaches to 27 all take place outside the gravel pit (i.e. gravel pit to the right of the aircraft). This clearly contradicts the NOTAM which specifies keeping your downwind INSIDE the gravel pit (i.e. gravel pit to the LEFT of the aircraft). By flying Downwind outside the gravel pit you have given the false impression that you have more distance/time for your Base turn and subsequent turn to Final. Both of these approaches fail to mention the reality that ATC will likely be instructing pilots when to start their descents and turns. When things are busy, few (if any) approaches will look the way they are flown in this video and pilots, especially people new to Airventure, need to know that they will be flying a somewhat non-standard pattern as instructed by ATC (short approach, early turns to Base, Extended downwind, last minute changes to which Dot to land on, etc.).
@RonMarish
@RonMarish 2 күн бұрын
My video was way better
@susannafrench
@susannafrench 23 сағат бұрын
How is this comment helpful?
@RonMarish
@RonMarish 15 сағат бұрын
@@susannafrench how is this video helpful would be the better question
@AVKingJamesBible
@AVKingJamesBible 2 күн бұрын
I’m amazed the FAA allows this insanity. No way no how would I ever fly into this crapshow.
@toneale
@toneale Күн бұрын
I'm sure you're fun at parties....I kid - seriously, it's not that bad. Read the NOTAM, know the NOTAM, and practice. Sat right side the last trip. I'll be in the left seat this time - can't wait!
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