Confusing ppl gets them to tinker more and buy more arrows lol you're a smart man phil

The struggle is real, I have a 26 in drawleanth. I haven't missed an episode yet, I truly love this series... Your no B.S. style is refreshing, thanks for doing these videos, you're going to save the people with open-minds, hours, if not weeks of struggle.. God bless, brother.

Lots of good info in the opening minute or two. Agree with the key takeaways that accuracy matters and there is no single answer. Good video, thanks!

Fixed broad heads, elk and mule deer. 512 grain arrow, 277fps , 70 yd pin. At 65 yds the arrow is 8.1inches high , at 75 its 9 inches low. The halfway point at35 yds which is the highest point your arrow will be is 28inches above my bow arm which is at 52 inches (6’ 4”). Knowing your arrow flight must be at the top along with #1 accuracy. That was a mouth full but it gives me a “flight plan “ if given time (big words from a RR engineer) . That ten yd space is something I’ve been using for yrs. One more item, 425 grain arrow is at 24 inches at 35 and a 14 inch spread at 70.

Awesome video. It really gets you thinking about what is more important to you speed or weight. Thanks, keep the knowledge coming I'm ready to soak it up like a sponge

These videos have been awesome. I’m in the middle of a arrow build and these videos have helped me make some decisions regarding the direction that it’s going. Thank you.

Been into archery for a year now. What a rabbit hole. Subscribed.

Great content. Love the videos keep em coming. 💯💪🏻

Arrow vs Speed! A lot of factors to take into account for each individual. Very informative video that makes perfect sense.

I appreciate the breakdown of the “spectrum”. People have killed a lot of animals on either end of it. It’s a give and take. As long as you know the limitations of your own setup, you should be successful.

Great stuff. Definitely paints the picture of what can happen out there.

I cant wait foe the next video!!

Amen. I feel like I’m always arguing with all of these ranch fairy guys when they come in my shop about shooting 600+ grains. I put them in the same position misjudge by 3 yards at 40 and you are screwed.

keep up the great videos. As a new bowhunter, you make it clear and easy to understand arrow builds and what to focus on. Keep up the great videos!!!

Thank you for getting me on the right track, help and knowledge from you and the awesome staff there at no limits and the alpha bowhunting family.

Really enjoy the numbers, logic, and facts included in this series. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge guys

The problem is all his math in the middle is flawed. There is not a standard drop rate at yardage due to lighter arrows bleeding off speed at range far quicker than a heavier arrow. The heavier arrow will not drop as much as you think by doing napkin math. You have to actually try it. Plus factoring in a live animal, and there unpredictable movement. Unless you are shooting a 900 fps arrow you will never beat an animals reaction with speed. The difference between 300 and 220 fps arriving at target are fractions of a second (go back to start of my statement about bleed off) not enough to matter. Better off making it quite. I could keep going but i won't. Thanks for a good video and continuing the discussion.

This information and the way you presented it was spot on. I'm trying to decide on my setup currently. Thanks!

I appreciate your perspective on arrow builds. Very helpful advice. Thanks! Looking forward to learning more.

Another great episode in the series. Arrows are a fun rabbit hole!

I never feel like I have that good all around arrow. Thanks for the videos. I’m gonna use some of this to make sure I’ve got the right fit for what I want.

Good discussion. My arrow build for elk, 27.5" draw length, 60lb HOYT RX4 bow: Easton Axis 5mm 400, 26.25", AAE Max Stealth vanes, 50gr brass HIT insert, Iron Will impact collar and 100gr Iron Will broadhead.

Great discussion. I'm working through arrow builds right now and those are exactly the things I'm looking at.

Hey, I have a 27" draw! Haha. Really liked how you guys emphasized that it's a balance between weight and speed, and that it's a bit of a personal decision on how you prioritize one or the other for an arrow build as opposed to there's only one right way.

Love playing around with arrow weight and trying different things

I very much enjoyed this video and you hit the nail on the head!! There is no perfect arrow build but I believe each person has a perfect “window” of speed and weight. If you look at the best in the world there seems to be a common range they ALL seem to be in. A window of 270-295 FPS and arrow weight of 430-540 grains. In those windows seems to be were elite set ups are. If you have a shorter draw length or lower poundage you’ll be closer to the 430 grains and 270 FPS but still in that window. If you have a long draw length you’ll be near the other end of the spectrum with a 500 + grain arrow and 285+ speed but still in that window. I tend to find an average male draw length 26-31 and 65-80 pounds draw weight usually gets somewhere in that perfect window. That window appears to be an elite set up with a great mix of speed and arrow weight for penetration. People who are doing this high arrow weight or people going the other way with to light and speed will limit themselves in the field with the shots they can take.

Thanks for the advise on archery advantage. That’s a great recourse to really fine tune what you want in your build.

Great video!

Marin answer when people say speed doesn't matter and all they're concerned about is momentum or penetration however you want to word it.. speed is penetration, speed is momentum. I shoot mostly traditional and my goal is to shoot as fast a bow as I can with a 500 plus gr arrow.. guys argue with me all the time. They say that accuracy is all that matters I have friends who shoot 135 or 140 feet per second if that deer takes one step at 20 yd you're going to miss

Archers Advantage is well worth the $12/year. You can narrow down your arrow build, saving money in the long run. I have one bow and have built reliable arrows for hunting (kinetic energy/trajectory), 3D (speed) and most recently exploring a fat shaft build for off season indoor. Plus, you can print off accurate sight tapes.

The never ending debate. Slow and heavy or fast and light...always torn when deciding on what to build

Good discussion. Most people argue light vs heavy with speed and being fast enough to beat the animals reflexes. When you break it down, its a tenth of a second.

Well FOC I have been doing it all wrong!

Great discussion. Going to be taking your advice on the archers advantage program. Seems like money well spent before I start my new arrow build. Thanks for the the points to consider.

Cant wait to see the other videos your going to put out in this series! Thanks for putting in the work and condensing it and making it easier to understand

Interesting stuff! Cant wait to hear you guys in the next video.

Great info , got me thinking about building arrows with different weights and doing testing on my own.

Appreciate the quality content you guys are putting out there!

Great video! All of your latest videos have been 🔥🔥🔥 30.5” draw length for me, so I don’t shoot les than 500g, still with plenty of speed.

Great video. I'm a heavy arrow guy. Killed my Cow Elk with a 635g arrow. But I'm pretty good getting close. I learned to hunt with my grandad. He used to say "get as close as you can. Then get 10 metres closer" looking forward to the next video. Subscribing was easy decision 😁

Great insight guys as always!!

Great video

Arrow durability would be another benefit of a heavier/ smaller diameter arrow. Great educational videos!

Good info here. I've always thought of the speed to weight ratio like walking a tight rope. Too far to either side and you're losing your balance, so I try and find that happy medium of both aspects as much as I possibly can.

Thank's these have been extremely helpful in finding ways to get the balance (accuracy, foc and speed)

Good info and thoughts. I personally shoot a 480 Gr. Arrow at 262 FPS. I think that is going to stay my set up for Whitetails this year. But in 2022, I might try to bump up my FPS by dropping down to a 460 gr. arrow.

Make total sense. Make the arrow that fits your shooting scenario and your comfort level.

Definitely had to add weight to my arrow just to slow it down so broadhead tuning wasn't a nightmare.

I'm really enjoying the arrow build topic, can't wait for the next video.

Great video. Keep it up!

Thanks for the video, a lot to think about when tinkering with my arrows

Great info here

Who needs to range when you have the Easy V sight! Satisfied customer here.

Great information but I may need to see the whole series now to dial in an arrow build. More to than just cutting arrows to length and slapping on braodheads.

Another great video! Arrow weight doesn't mean a whole lot until you factor in DL and DW. Since arrows are so expensive, if you guys had to do one arrow build based on speed, what would you aim for...280?

Great video. Love this kind of information.

Thanks for trying to sort out the information, but it’s complicated. My trajectory and accuracy, has improved while recovery has declined.

So glad you buried the micro penetration issue.

450 grains for moose, slow animals. 350 for deer, fast animals. 70# 27" draw

Drop is a monster out past 30 yards. Great video.

Thanks.. I’m just now changing my arrows and trying to understand everything before I buy. Thanks

Thank you guys great info as always!!!!

As far as micro diameter and drag when it's going through an animal broadheads don't punch a clean hole and the arrow shaft is passing through without touching anything there's drag no matter what whether it's going through the air or touching flesh and it is touching the whole way through so I believe it aids in that portion of penetration as well

Another great video

Very interesting! Good talk! Thanks!

Spot on guys... An accurate, well place flat shooting arrow is overlooked in most cases, and arrow weight/FOC/broadheads recieves a lot of attention that needed to go to shot placement and skill.

Good content. Speed does matter but I would rather completely miss than a poor shoot.

I just go to Henry Ferguson for arrow weight information.

Awesome stuff

I'm a guy that hunts multiple big game every year in the rockies. I dont have the time to have multiple setups. I shoot the same thing at everything lol (time and money) and thats probably most hunters. I shoot 600gn at 206fps 🐢 at 20%foc out of a 60lb compound and I blast through everything even elk. I found the Ashby studies 10 years ago and the formula works. But I totally agree that the speed and drop sucks but its lethal!

10 grains per inch of arrow length for every 10 lbs. of bow weight is a good starting point to get the most efficiency out of your bow!

More and more people are starting to talk sensible instead trying to make a piece of rebar fly. Thanks.

Good stuff thanks gentlemen

I have a shorter draw so I sacrifice some weight for a little more speed

Just started getting into arrow building and this was very informative. I have a 26.5” draw so getting speed has always been an issue with a good hunting arrow. Right now shooting a 70lbs draw with a 450 grain arrow but only getting about 250 fps. Not sure if I should go with a lighter arrow to get more speed.

325 fps with a built Arrow. 400 grains * 325 fps = 93.4 ft. lbs. That's a few joules. My Personal Experience. The faster They get there. The more forgiving the Ranging Error is. Shoot 3D. Arrows are Expensive. Shouldn't shoot that far unless You can actually hit it.

Nice channel

Love the info!

Great info!

Great information

You should go as heavy as you can while still be comfortable with the arrow's trajectory. - Dr. Ed Ashby

Only my second year using a bow and it’s awesome just got a new Hoyt vertum 33 I’m trying to learn more about what arrows arrowheads mainly going to hunt elk

I really like that 460-470 grain total weight with about 12-14% FOC and 280-285 fps. I’ve found thru my tinkering, and my tinkering never stops, thru the ridicule of my hunting group, that this setup has the best all around aspects.

Great vid

Great video what type of arrow do you guys recommend I'm currently shooting easton axis 5 mm 300 spine. I got 29 inch draw shooting 70lbs and getting 275 fps with 456 gain total arrow weight. Mostly I hunt whitetail in ohio. Was thinking of trying different arrow set up for little more speed what do you recommend?

Thanks for showing common sense in a world where extremism seems to be norm.

Just try a couple of setups and shoot what works for your application.

Tks for the video guys. I tell ya, the whole "heavy arrow" fad was getting out of hand Tks for putting some words of common sense out there again 🤫

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8:36 I don’t think anyone should be shooting 60 yards

Ok? My 644 (264 fps) grain hits 7 in lower than my 444 grain (315 fps) at 40 yards. So your 1/2 in or 2.5 in per yard is way off. Unless a lot slower than 300 fps.

Weight!!

I'm working with a 480gr arrow @ 287fps

So what you're saying is, speed kills...lol

For Pete’s sake just put a bow with some arrows in hand and stop just talking about it!!! Show us with a bow and some targets!!!

Whatever arrow style you shoot and you can maintain 325FPS+, then you can shoot WHATEVER you want. I've had a slow bow and had to resort to a 500+ grain arrow just for penetration, its 2021, shoot anything at 320+FPS, at what you want and you WILL pass through, I do it with hogs all the time. My old bow would NOT do that past thirty yards. Hell, if your draw weight is short, just buy an ATA Mamba, they cost the same as most other flagship bows and you can most defiantly shoot a 550 grain arrow at 320+ all day with a 27inch draw. Just my two cents. I used to own a slow bow and would argue arrow weight bc I knew deep down my bow would even shoot a 350 grain arrow over 290. Now I have a speed bow and my logic has been proven WAY wrong. Go watch Waddells you about this subject.

Ty always good videos

Great vid