Artemis: *SMASH, SMASH, SMASH, SMASH* Colonial Politicians: "Hey man, I think you got them." Artemis: "You want some of this?" Colonial Politicians: "No." Artemis: "Didn't think so, justice for Caprica."

I am so happy that for Deadlock they designed the Artemis class to look like the original series Galactica. It was a fantastic nod to what came before.

Let's be clear, most ship designs in any Sci Fi settings (including BSG) tend to be fantastical to the point of impossibility (looking at you Colonial Viper). The thing that stands out on this point for BSG is that the actual Battlestar layouts are actually practical in terms of their overall design. Being essentially a highly armoured box with two externally mounted landing bays (which considering the possibility of a hanger deck fire this makes a whole lot of sense in terms of not letting the whole ship die in a single explosion) along with short range turrets and nuclear missile launchers.

The tos galactica. Its mentioned in the second last episode. She was 500 years old and the class was originally intended as a vessel of exploration, which is why she serves well in her role . ( finding resources, search for earth ect ) .

I've played hundreds of battles in Deadlock with every conceivable mix of Battlestar and support ship and after many months I came to the conclusion that a fleet of five Artemins Battlestars was by far the most effective Cylon fleet killer I could use. A flying wedge could destroy anything the enemy threw at me with ease. Need a wall of flak, need 10 squadrons of Vipers, need 10 torpedo volleys, need unimaginable close combat artillery. Never lost a single ship or came close to loosing a battle once I worked this out.

When I played Deadlock the ARTEMIS was a core part of the fleet well into the late game due to its relatively low point cost good Viper carrying capacity. And that it fit well with the Adamants in the Wall Of Fire Formation.

"no one expects their kitchen to start a revolution." Unless you're a modern stone age family. Then it's ironically within the realm of possibility.

I honestly wanted to write an absolutely terrible fanfic about survivors if the cylon attack stumbling upon a few decommissioned Artemis class, getting them up and running. No heavy weapons or ordinance. Just turned into ships that have all the facilities you need to sustain thousands of people. One tlight pod becomes a Tilium refinery. Another water purifier/ food production. You get the point.

Officially, the '78 Battlestars never had a proper ship 'class' name in the old show. They were just 'Battlestars.' Fans named them the 'Ares' class, or sometimes the 'Columbia Type,' due to said ship being the flagship of the convoy going to sign the peace treaty with the Cylons.

You had me at "Ginormous fuck off guns." 😂

"Nobody expects their kitchen to stage a revolution on them one morning...." No. My contingencies are next to perfect, and none of my appliances were able to learn of them. Especially not the toaster or microwave.

"Holy wall of flak" Simply amazing. So say we all!

I seems to be like the original UK dreadnaught battleship design pre-ww1 - revolutionary with turtleback armor and center line main guns but initially limited until later designs, culminating in the US fast battleships like the new jersey with speed, guns, AA and an all or nothing armour design

"Holy wall of flak, blessed by its name." has to be one of my new favorite phrases.

Bash BSG 1978 if you want, but what do you think people will be saying about the production quality of the remake in roughly 50 years? I love the new version of BSG and am so happy that the studio execs didn't screw it up, again, but I won't fault the production quality of the original considering what else was coming out of studios at the time. Short of major feature films there wasn't much better.

I recall from an interview with the deadlock developers that the Artemis carries 64 Mark 2's, or 100 Mark 1's for a fighter compliment. It stood out to me because they gave such specific amounts, though I'm not sure when in the development they gave the interview.

I remember reading somewhere that the design doc Glen Larson handed Ralph McQuarrie for the original Galactica design was, "Gila Monster mated to a tank." Because of the design choices of the new series, I've come to refer to the "alligator head" as the "warhead", personally. What's nifty about the original model: There appears to be a massive spinal mount A-10 type cannon along the ventral side of the Warhead that McQuarrie either forgot to mention to the rest of production, or they simply couldn't be bothered to budget effects around. I've stared at the chin of my Moebius Models Galactica for years, wondering if there was a completely missed opportunity for the Galactica/Artemis class to have been a kind of western Macross warship.

Talking about the PD on this reminded me of a (paraphrased) conversation from WW2. Enterprise: I WANT MORE DAKKA. Retrofitters: I put all the guns that the ship can handle, if I put any more it will sink from the wieght. Enterprise: [reviewing ship specs].....can we take off the armor?

I have always believed Adamant Frigate was just a prototype for the Artemis battlestar. They built it small to save money to see if the concept worked and it worked so well they made it into its own class

I never really got into BSG growing up; I was more of a TNG kid. But the inner nerd who loved TNG is excited now, because I’m gonna hunt down this show and binge it.

the BSG'78 is like a B5 that can fly

The PDCs on battlestars are huge. Their have been people who have cacled them to be 90-110mms in size. They are definitely bigger than viper guns.

Wow, you absolutely nailed me, i'm an ex-GW employee who does paint miniatures and TNG is my go to. Currently re-watching Stargate SG1 though

I grew up watching the original series and I absolutely loved it. Lizard Cylons and all. When I originally heard about the changes they were making for re-imagined I was livid. Not only did I have a hard time seeing anyone other than Dirk Benedict as Starbuck, making him a chick was, sacrilege. I took a chance on it anyway, then Katee Sackhoff just nailed it. I was just blown away by the acting, the VFX, and the plot on the new show, that if it is considered THE canon now, I'm ok with it. I do kinda miss Imperious Leader and I wish they had brought on Jane Seymour for at least a few eppisodes, none the less, I love the re-imagined series as much if not more than the original.

I am a huge fan of the original, seeing the movie on the bigscreen at a drive-in, I have all the books which extend out the story and the dvd's even the Battlestar 1980. One of the the biggest problems- and yes there were many, is that the movie made money and they rushed into a series with no preproduction time and basically had to reuse footage from the movie over and over as there was no time to shoot new stuff. With that being said, I think that the Ronald D Moore vision was much better, and I for one am happy to consider them happening in alternative universes.

ngl, never watched battlestar, though looking back at it, it seems to be the inspiration for a lot of things I like, especially the Expanse and the game House of the Dying Sun

Never knew about the FTL bubble nonsense... I just remember in the TV show they needed to retract them to keep enemy ships from getting critical hits inside the ship via the open hanger doors. As for retractable.. I mean, they could of put a rail system on the pods that the arms just turned a gear and retracted them.... they didn't need to dig into the hull or whatever. It's funny that they never made drop pods for the ships to change up mission roles... instead of hangers maybe more flak pods, missile pods, gun pods..... ah well.

For the game, these things are glass cannons but omg if used right they are awesome fast Battlestars. I even had a fleet of them in the late game/DLC's. You can field FIVE of them, with the exact same Battlestar cannons that the state of the art Jupiter Battlestars have, and 2 squadrons, 1 missile launcher each ship. I would have 8 Vipers squadrons, 1 Raptor squadron (for DRADIS), 1 Sweeper squadron (for chaff/anti missile) I always kept them as far away from the action as possible, and even turned tail and boosted my engines as the Cylons chased, my support ship all the while slapping on armored plate to them to a left or right side, and deploying chaff/ECM's as I went. Cylon Raider fighters are first to die as they are intercepted with my 8 Viper squadrons; preferably before they got my fleets DRADIS info. Then I used my Vipers/Raptor to get DRADIS info on the Cylon fleet and soften them up with fighters/guided missiles. After a while of this softening up of the Cylons firepower, my Artemis's will form a flak line, turn broadside (to the reinforced armor side), and tear down whatever is left. I love the revised lore to add the original BSG type in as a proto Battlestar. I love using her. She is fun if you are clever enough to use her right. Use the tools you are given to the best of their abilities.

23:40 Mostly only one or maybe two of them to a fleet? Well.. I remember when I played BSG-Deadlock I used to run one fleet that had three of these buggers stacked one atop the other with a bit of vertical spacing: Tyr, Thor, and Odin, plus a scout. . Needless to say the results were ...predictable. "Oh, you are shooting missiles at me? That's cute. Here.. have 'The allmighty Wall of Flak, blessed be its name' not just squared, but cubed." The fleet was rightly called Aesir's Wrath because it brought the thunder - and lots of it.

1987 version? Dude the original came out right before Star Wars try 1977 wow I'm old

The original BSG '78 had a LOT of charm and if they were to redo it today (with adequate budget and well planned out to get rid of stupid inconsistencies like constantly mistaking "system", "Galaxy" and "Universe", the various inconsistent "xxxx-ton" time/distance measurements), and a real long term plan, it could be VERY good. In fact if they had kept to the original "this will be multiple mini-series" plan it would have likely been much more successful... I preferred the lore around the original than the Ron D. Moore remake, although the remake was much easier to watch. The big thing with the 1978 version was that it wasn't so dark - even when they had their backs against the wall, it was a feel good buddy-buddy show and a story of hope and friendship and family (a mark of the times).

Thank you for this video. The Artemis class is my favourite of the Battlestars and you've done a great job covering all the different aspects of the ship. Good job 👍🏻

Point of order, the atlas lacked many things, armor wasn’t one of them. Which is convenient because it wasn’t going to be avoiding any fire.

If you're looking at the special effects for the OG BSG there's no question that it could use an update to add variety, but we can really say that about pretty much every older property. BSG may have just featured far more opportunities for it as I believe it had far more complex space combat scenes than anything contemporary. I mean wouldn't you like to see graphic updates to The Last Starfighter, B5, and some of the various Star Trek properties.

The chimp in the suit was cool, daggits / Muffit was cool. They were the protective dogs of that universe

You have to remember when the original was made, Im 53 and i was a very little kid when it aired

I learned to dislike the Jupiters in Deadlock. Their shape limits firing arcs of its main guns, while the flat top of the Artemis allows its main guns basically a 360° firing arc. These beasts can charge at enemy lines and blast everything away, only having to turn to get their flaks in the way of missile barrages. The Jupiters more or less are limited to broadsiding or have to dive below targets to get their main guns into position.

A missed opportunity would be transforming one of the hangars into weapon pods. A catapults is close enough to a railgun after all.

Found this on accident. Great stuff. Looking forward to more.

The Artimis could still launch new viper designs, but they'd have to launch conventionally, like on the Atlas carriers. It was probably intended to be able to do this in the event the launch tubes failed or were inoperable. But, I doubt it had enough elevators on the flight deck to quickly cycle its fighters to meet an unexpected DRADIS contact. By contrast, the Atlas has that gaping maw of a hangar entrance, I infer that there's a significant open area inside the armor where ships are stored on multiple decks. Even if not, the Atlas would be designed with a multitude of ammunition and aircraft lifts/elevators because it was expected to launch and recover ships in a conventional way. With the Battlestar design, the point of the launch tubes is to both provide rapid insertion of entire wings if strike craft, and give them a better takeoff velocity. While you don't need to worry about lift in space, the old adage still applies that speed is life. The higher initial velocities of the launch tubes give viper pilots some extra survivability during the normally vulnerable takeoff. Without the tubes, the Artemis doesn't have as much to offer over some other, more specialized designs. That's my interpretation, anyway.

The 1978 original BSG was a great show.I watched it as a teenager back then and I loved the series.Every episode had a feel good story to it and never took itself too seriously.The 2003 remake was very good as well though albeit alot darker and more serious than the original ever was.Be thankful that we ever had any TV series of BSG.Its a great story.

OCD nerd here, I take it you mean they de-canonized the 1978 original version, not the "1987" version that you mention at 2:45, as there wasn't one. Either that, or this was the deliberate error to make sure we are listening properly. :). Apart from that, enjoyable and informative video.

Thx for the video!

old technical material that came out shortly after the movie and the 78 tv series stated Galactica carried "around" 75 fighters. A low # I always thought. The figure was based on the design, not the situation after the destruction of the other battlestars.

Nice informative video; plus, I love the FTL background music!

I dont like how accurat the outro was... I literally was here painting minis while lisen to this

I'd love for this channel to review EvE Online ships as well - a lot of great designs worth discussing in detail in that universe, with each faction having a specific estetic that matches their war ethos. Of course, speaking about such requires familiarity with the IP and the game itself, so I'm not sure if it's feasible unless the lead host (note: co-host was missing this episode; odd) happens to have actually played EvE online before. Regardless, great upload as always. I will point out a small flaw I did notice during the video: from 6:55 to 8:00, the speech-wave mysteriously flatlined.

Would love to see you break down how to understand Electronic Warfare and Cylon Hacking in this universe. It comes off as too much magic and no real explanation. What ships are used for this role? Also, modern militaries use special mission aircraft for a bunch of different roles, how would you see that kind of utility in the BSG universe? other than throw a Raptor at it.

FYI, the new BSG was not a remaster, it was remake or a reboot. A remaster is a process where you take an older form of media (show/movie, game, song) and clean it up, make it look cleaner, brighter, sharper, etc. for re-release. You this a lot with older movies that haven't seen a new home release in decades. So they take the original master print, the one that they use to make all home video and, now, streaming versions from and clean it up, making it look as close as possible to how it looked when it first came out in theaters and, often, to look good on modern TVs and things like Blu-Ray and 4K.

The Battlestar Galactica annual says it carries 75 Vipers plus a dozen shuttles. However the Galactica recovered many fighters from other destroyed Battlestars, on Carilon the Cylons say there are 250 pilots although they may share ships between them. In the final ep Adama comments that they will be outnumbered 2 to 1 when they take on a Base ship with 300 Raiders.

It's mentioned in the information about the '78 version that, while she only had two to field, the Galactica could carry 4 squadrons of Vipers. I think its reasonable to infer that the "re-imagined" version would have a very similar compliment.

I think it carries 100 vipers. I believe that on the original BSG a squadron was 25 vipers. I think that you can see the actual number on the shots of the vipers lifting off from Caralon. Also during Starbuck and Apollos deception of the basestar on Caralon, they reference 6 squadrons. Atena says that two of those squadrons aren't from the Galactica.

Artemis-class: Permission to exist in my sky: DENIED!

Presumably the smallish crew of the Artemis compared to the Jupiter is because of the networked systems.

TOS in the beginning was great! Then it was hit or miss.

hi, I have the original Battlestar hand book. each battlestar carried 175 to 190 viper fighters and several different Auxiliary ships.

My understanding was that the original show was distinguished from the revamp by referring to the original as 'Battlestar Galactica, while the revamp is called 'BSG'.

Thank You 4 the Re cap , . it took awhile to find it and then get a Copy that would work in the U , K . but l like BLOOD and CROME .

Flagship of the 12 Worlds' Warfleet, she was as large as a small planet, yet as swift as the Starhound Fighters she launched from her bays. For generations, the vast ship had led the thousand-year war against the Cylon for control of the known Galaxy. Now that war was in its last phase, and Galactica had one final mission, win or lose: blast through the deadly grid of the Cylon Starfleet and dash for deep space in a desperate attempt to find the legendary "Stonehenge" of the universe - the lost planet the ancient microfilms call "Earth". Glen Larson and Robert Thurston, 1978

This is good to hear. From the 70s TV show you would swear that the gunners on the battlestars got kicked out of the Stormtroopers for their rotten marksmanship skills.

My boy is dropping facts at the end there

I guess I'm showing my age by stating that I prefer Lorne, Richard, and Dirk over the remake. THE Battlestar Galactica.

You can find fan edit with replacement FX online if you know where to look. (I won't say here b/c I don't want Univesal to have them pulled.) I've seen some top notch ones.

The Minerva is a good Battlestar. I love to use 4 of them combined with a max level Manticore. The Minervas have a range and accuracy bonus on their weapons, while the Manticore can get a DRADIS range of 16k. You can see everything and kill most targets before they come too close to you.

Good old original design.

Agreed at the end with Basestar and Centurion but there is no way you can say the flying saucers are better than the pincer design of the new Raiders.

Deadlock scales the Jupiter's PD to 16 turrets, so it would be about a 36 to 1 scale. The Artemis has the same number, so it would stand to reason thatit would have a similar number of PD guns as the Jupiter.

in 79 i read somewhere that the galactica had 4 squadrons of vipers. how many vipers per squadron i do not remember, that was a long time ago.

You know...... I saw the original movie and I thought they explained that, as the war with the cylons went on and on, the Battlestars were getting bigger and bigger, it was becoming impossible to keep escalating the Battlestars were the size of three class "M" planets. ( I'm probably wrong about the size ) In the TV series, they encountered " The Eastern Alliance " when taking a captive back to the Galactica, the prisoner was amazed he could see it from soon far away and Starbuck said : that my friend, is a Battlestar. So how big is the Battlestar ? It seems like every video comparing different spaceship sizes always undersizes it.

Will you do a video on the Valkyrie class from Battlestar galatica?

HEY! I'll have you know I'm re-watching Enterprise right now, you doof.

CG?!? in 1978?!? Yeah, right. All miniatures and practical effects here. Considering the budgets available at the time compared to the number of total screen hours, we're luck we got as many effect shots as we did. I was born in 1972. The original BSG was a BIG part of my latter pre-teen years along with the original Star Wars. I prefer the campy fun of the original over the mindscrew of the remake. Did the new version have more and better effects? Yes. But the original did a better job of portraying an alien if recognizable culture in my opinion, and the old Cylons were, within the limits of the effect technology of the time, excellent faceless robot minions for the heroes to shoot with abandon. I'm not saying the new version isn't a good show; I'm saying the original isn't a bad one. Still, if you want to look into a new old show, look up what the 1980's did to Buck Rogers sometime.

I love this brick

Neat thing about "Lore". If you are running a game like a TRPG, the lore is whatever you say it is. :)

Great video. Now I don't feel like rewatching BSG, but I sure feel like playing FTL once again.

What are all these different battlestars from? I don't remember them from the series. Great fan theories, I love them.

Hey! The Dagnabit (as I called it) was still a trillion kms better than the 'Twiki' bot in the Buck Roger's TV show....

I can not see why Artemis would be limited to Mk I and Mk II vipers. The Jupiter class would also have been designed with same type viper tubes, and it in series was shown as having both Mk VII vipers and Mk II Vipers. In any case, because Deadlock is a game, it must be noted there are really 3 sets of specifications to consider... Artemis in Game, Artemis if it appears in the re-imagined series it was designed to complement, and the TOS Glactica (sometimes called Columbia class by fans) as it appears in the original 1970's and 1980's show. The Re-imagined Series (TRS) Deadlock Game offshoot ARTEMIS CLASS (as shown in game) (Note some numbers are from Spacedock KZfaq channel, which gave official stats for all vessels as they cooperated) - Dimensions: 1080 meters long, 400 meters wide, 104 meters high - People: 3200 max + 150 colonial marines - Guns: Left: Point Defense, Right: Point Defense, Front: Battlestar Artillery, Rear: none, Top: Battlestar Artillery, Bottom: Heavy Artillary - Munition slot: 1 missile or torpedo slot (How many launched depended on type of Munition) - Squadron slots: 2 squadrons, 8-10 viers each (I believe it was 10 Mk I or 8 Mk II) The Re-imagined Series (TRS) Deadlock Game offshoot ARTEMIS CLASS (taken seriously outside of game if it appears in re-imagined series) - Most of the statistics could stand as is, but we need to modify how many missiles and auxiliary craft it has. - Squadron Slots: Mercury class has I believe 40 launch tubes per side, or 20 per flight deck, so 80 tubes total. So figure ballpark 2 vipers per tube gives a grand total of 160 vipers. Jupiter class has I believe 40 launch tubes per side, or 20 per flight deck, so 80 tubes total. So figure ballpark 2 vipers per tube gives a grand total of 160 vipers. However, this is not correct for specifically the Galactica, because the starboard flight pod on the Galactica was disabled and turned into a museum so they can only have 80 Vipers. Artemis class has I believe 16 launch tubes per side, or 16 per flight deck, so 32 tubes total. So figure ballpark 2 vipers per tube gives a grand total of 64 vipers. - We have to assume Artemis has SOME Support Ship and Vehicle Squadrons of Shuttles and Raptors and Landrams... I believe at one point we see 12 on the Jupiter Class and they've at least a couple shuttles and at least one Landram was spotted in series The Original Series (TOS) Galactica (note that no actual class name was ever given on screen, but most fans of the TOS called it the Columbia Class before Deadlock) - Dimensions: 1265 meters long, 510 meters wide, 107 meters high - People: 700 max - Guns: 32 known turbo laser turrets, they also have 2 mega pulsars in front of ship - Munition slot: 12 known solenite missile launchers - Number of Vipers: Normally 75 - Number of covered Landrams: Normally 12 - Number of open Landrams: we know of at least 1 for sure - Number of Shuttles: Normally 12 - Number of light bikes: we know at least 2 for sure - Note there is some conflicts on dimensions and numbers of people for TOS Galactica... the above is what most have settled on over the years and is also what is reported by Eaglemoss, but some early material from the time actually state instead a length of 2000ft, or about 610 meters long. This smaller ship also only apparently had 500 people total, and only 6 shuttles, but still 75 vipers. I do not think the smaller size makes sense.

When talking about fighters i tend to glanced at what we know about the Jupiter and mercury in canon vs what was abstracted for Gameplay. Plus some utter nerds figuring out the number of craft on the TOS Galatiaca. This comes out to being 75 Vipers to start with and by the end the Galactica is carrying nearly 150 Vipers (plus 12 landing craft and 12 space shuttles) and has 16 viper tubes on each side. Compared to the Jupiter class which has 40 viper launch tubes (20 on each side) meaning at minimum it carried 80 vipers, most likely more. This is when considering that Galactica originally carried 10 Squadrons of mixed Viper and Raptors each with 10-16 pilots each. Meaning at max where looking at like 160 Vipers, or more likely 100 vipers and 30 raptors in normal operational strength due to note of mixed squadrons existing. (which funny enough if your converting gameplay states things line up nicely) This means that a Artemis class would carry anywhere form 75 vipers and 24 raptors, or as many as 150 when pressured into that role but can still carry the other transports. This same logic also applies to the Jupiter and Mercury (Which itself can carry around 200 active and 100 reserve Vipers.) All and all the Artemis really is just the smaller predecessor of a Jupiter class. Although even when you remove the fancy laser weapons the TOS Galactica can field almost twice as many Vipers as the NBSG Galactica, if only because the second flight pod was turned into a museum effectively cutting it's max compacity to just 80 fighters and 16 Raptors. All in all the Artemis carries a decent flight of fighters to be respectable. Here's another fun breakdown by a fan over the fighter strength of Galactica. Plus the source for TOS numbers, they mention the episodes from the series these numbers are given. www.reddit.com/r/BSG/comments/yavdv6/how_many_vipers_did_galactica_carry/ = www.tecr.com/galactica/capships/battlestar.htm

a 2nd fun fact, of the old technical material that derived from the original 70s movie was that the Battlestar was primarily depicted as a "floating aircraft carrier in space", hence the original model is devoid of obvious heavy gun/missile emplacements. However as the series progressed, there were specific references and action sequences referencing "forward laser batteries", and multiple missile launchers. (the latter using USAAF footage of launches). For the most part in the series and movie though, the fighter complement was portrayed as the BS's primary offensive and defensive weapon supplemented by an unstated # of point defense lasers, depicted as dual emplacements with a turret like lower device combined with a faster, flexible upper mount. While for nostalgia sake, along with just loving the look of the original battlestar, I tend to favor the 70s canon of which the Cylons were very different from the reimaged 2000s series......I will admit to loving one great aspect of the re-imagined Galactica. I was surprised it was only mentioned in jest as an Orc headbutt here. That being the tendency for starships of the period always having their CiC/bridge on top of the ship like a naval vessel....where it can be taken out rather easily. (Star Trek or Star Wars anyone?). The re-imagined Galactica had it's bridge/CiC buried deep inside the ship....no windows, shielded by heavy armor and bulkheads. Makes total sense for a space fairing vessel. You want a view? great......a secondary bridge for non combat situations. But when the fur starts flying, you want your command and control as heavily shielded as possible.

Most excellent

Ha! Watching TNG for the 40th time, you know us so well.

I think u can find the number of flight wings it Carry’s in the original movie.

The concept of using lasers in the original BSG was great when I was 16 on it's original broadcast. When I was older then 17, It was terrible in its origination, while the new BSG introduced that was light years worst. The TOS Battlestars was so much better, Vipers, Baseships, Raiders where good. The upgraded Baseships, Cylons, Raiders, Vipers are much better. I like the storyline of how they make a 1st Cylon war, and how the Military and Government F'ed up the peace treaty.

Me at the end of the video, as I am painting my Legions Imperialis miniatures 😳

Just because there is quite a bit of lore involved, I would like to see your take on the various ships in EvE Online.

15:00 The original show was pretty bad, but it was fun to watch, and the ships were cool AF.

Alright a new video!

Growing up in the late 60's and 70's...which was only 20-30 years after WW2..... I always thought a LOT of SF ship design and useage in movies and TV was influenced by the USN in WW2...

I mean the very point of Alternate Reality and Fiction and Reboots is they're both "Real" within their own framework. Saying one Framework is the "True" framework because it's getting updates is silly.

I’m 53 and love me some BSG. And I’ve never heard of Deadlock. What the heck happened in 1987?😂

In Batttlestar galactica online we have Jotunn. which is supposed to be preddecesor of all battlestarts.

To be honest, I drastically prefer the original show to the reimagined one in terms of just watching it. Why? It's very simple. I absolutely hate most of the characters of the reimagined BSG. They either act like jackasses or idiots, and sometimes both. There's just not enough there for me to care about most of them individually because every time they give me something to like or be interested in, they turn around and tear it down by making the character act like an asshole when it doesn't make sense or a moron (which is always a bad thing) in their very next scene. The older characters don't always come across as the best ever made, but I'm not shouting "die already" at the screen on a regular basis with them, either. The same holds true for many of my favorite shows. The characters were LIKABLE. I ALWAYS wanted to see if they'll make it. The newer BSG main characters, not so much, particularly Kara and Lee. The other thing that the older show wins out on is that it's a lot less negative in tone. The new show just keeps beating you down and beating you down until I start asking "why the heck am I watching this anymore?". A little bit of unambiguous hope not deliberately undermined by SOMETHING would have been nice.

Could Deadlock be a potential basis for the Galactica reboot-reboot?

the og bsg show was the greatest show of it's time.

I mean yes the Minerva is a bit light on the armor admittedly I like them a lot as a compliment to the jupiters bulk and flak.

1.25 If your talking about the first film best close the blast shield now then show the Daggit to the airlock while shouting "Walkies". If your talking about the series then im right behind you!

TOS BSG struggles in the early episodes, but it does get better as it goes on. It's still a goofy show but it's a fun time.

Thanks

Hey now!!! I don't know who you think you're insulting, young man. Have you not heard yet? It's hip to be square.