Artillery Sidewinder X1 Extruder Idler Arm Replacement

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4 жыл бұрын

Today I am going to show you how to swap out the idler arm on the Artillery Sidewinder X1 extruder idler arm with an all metal one. The whole reason for doing this is because the stock idler arm is poorly molded and cracks very easily.
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@stevesloan6775 4 жыл бұрын

X1 is my first printer... ran flawlessly for months... I got a blocked nozzle and then proceeded too snap the idler arm. Your upload is one a very few. ThNk You 🤜🏼🤛🏼😎🍀🇦🇺🤓

@jean-michelchevalier6649 2 жыл бұрын

Changed mine today, the plastic one was broken in 5 parts, I don't regret the move, took me 10 mn and its back to work

@ianm523 4 жыл бұрын

For anyone who tries this and the gears stop moving. MAKE SURE the bearing from the first idler arm is removed! Otherwise when you tighten the side plate it will squeeze the small gear and cause it to get caught and stop moving.

@Unprogress 3 жыл бұрын

Any tipps on how to remove it?

@AngelidisAlex 3 жыл бұрын

@@Unprogress Try to remove it from the jew idler arm if the old one is stuck, use some pliers and push it out from the opposide side

@Barry4661 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, this happened to me and I was clueless...until I read your reply.

@rramby2731 3 жыл бұрын

@@Unprogress I used my snippers which provided pressure on sides of bearing and it moved right off, other wise it was a pain but the snippers pulled it right off clean.

@TheLeontheking 3 жыл бұрын

@@Unprogress I first used a needle to push in between the two bearings, to separate the one I wanted to remove. Then I first used a screwdriver to lever it away, and then the long side of scissors to push it off completely.

@SPIDDEK 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much, after one year of printing it's my turn to change the arm. :D Very good explanation :)

@Stubby0266 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the hints on the cables and for your help. I just got my second X1 and the arm was broken, in 2 places, when I opened the box. Ordered replacement part, Amazon, and had it the next day. Now to put the rest of the machine together and see what else might be wrong. Yes, I am having them, China, send another arm and also have a 2nd metal arm kit coming too.

@avejst 4 жыл бұрын

Great update Thanks for sharing 👍😁

@enochroot9438 4 жыл бұрын

Great guide thank you for sharing

@Widmoos Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@mr.bananatime9255 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much

@stevesloan6775 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for posting... new subscriber 🤜🏼🤛🏼🍀🤓😎

@atm4jim 4 жыл бұрын

Any difference between the 3 Amazon links other than the prices? Does the replacement part have a U groove roller for the filament like the original or is it flat roller? If flat, any issues?

@JamyRoxx 4 жыл бұрын

Any tips on the tension? My extruder is not extruding consistently when I do my E-steps.. Done just about everything.. At a loss

@TheMoe6969 4 жыл бұрын

Not all the bolts holding the hot-end together are the same length SO if you're taking the bolts out be careful of which bolt went where. My OEM idler broke and (because of COVID-19?) all replacements are 'out of stock' and had to order the one you recommended from Ali Express. But 45-60 day delivery from China was NOT GONNA keep me down. I found a Titan idler from a place in Staten Island that was 'almost' the same. Spent 2 days drilling, filing, and gluing to get it to work. Can't wait for the aluminum one so this is a non-issue from now on.

@Fugatech3DPrinting 4 жыл бұрын

If you have multiple printers I have seen people print a replacement arm.

@brianturow5986 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. Do you have the stl for those cable clamps? And is there any danger in using a dab of hot glue?

@Fugatech3DPrinting 4 жыл бұрын

Here you go: www.thingiverse.com/thing:4100016 and no. This small amount won't hurt anything unless you jam it into the connector.

@General_DDay 4 жыл бұрын

Can you do another video about this printer and some of the current prints you've made. I'm looking to buy a printer and its a toss up between the Sidewinder and the CR10 V2. Could you do a side by side comparison?

@rap-id-ralph 4 жыл бұрын

Doesn’t it wiggle left right like that? I had to add a washer. Also my alu arm had a flat bearing instead of a hollow one. I took one from a broken arm instead, does the trick. But then again, I’ve been battling with this X1 for weeks and barely feel it runs now. Gl!!

@Fugatech3DPrinting 4 жыл бұрын

It wobbled until I tightened it back down. I'll post an update if I have any issues.

@Brunoku 4 жыл бұрын

I just left the flat bearing because I noticed the filament doesn’t seem to want to run down the middle of the bearing with the new arm. Maybe the original bearing you switched in is causing some resistance? Unrelated: does the ptfe tube fit snugly in your new arm? I might have to hot glue mine because it sits pretty loose in the hole

@durra4203 Жыл бұрын

Hey, when the bearing fell off in the video, where did it come from, i had the same thing happen to me and I can’t find where to put it back

@marcelnachname9484 3 жыл бұрын

You did one fail, that i also did. I am still trying to get my x1 ready to work. So, you removed the old idler Arm, but you missed the bearing of the old idler. So it is still on the rod of the Motor. The New idler brings his new bearing, so its double. I also did and was not able to get the New one smooth back in place. The Motor was blocked and so on. Removing the old bearing is hard shit work. Now my idler Arm is touching the wheel. It is a mess.

@noraimansukindar1416 4 жыл бұрын

Same problem. Always break. But this sidewinder printing quality is awesome

@jamesthornton6200 2 жыл бұрын

ok I feel like an idiot but if anyone had a problem where their gear wasnt turning when u put the new metal extruder arm on, u probably have left the old bearing from the old extruder arm on the bottom while adding a new one make sure theres only one this caused so many issues but now its perfect and I can tighten it perfectly

@sparks-tech 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great video I had heard that part was not great thanks for going over the replacement. Your cooling fan looks to be at a different angle than mine are you using a custom parts cooling mount?

@Fugatech3DPrinting 3 жыл бұрын

Yes I am using a different mount for better airflow. This is the one I am using but there are others out there as well. www.thingiverse.com/thing:3927320

@jeremynicoletti9060 3 жыл бұрын

If you order the version off amazon it comes with a shorter spring which is too short to work in the sidewinder x1 - if you simply use the old spring then it works fine. (Or at least that's what happened with the part I ordered - yours could be just fine)

@jean-michelchevalier6649 2 жыл бұрын

Can I ask you if you would share the STL for your front support fan please?

@nidzdotnet76 3 жыл бұрын

I put one one and it caused nothing but problems. The screw you get with it is tight and the cog wheel won't pull the filament through the hot end.. I put the plastic arm back on and problem solved. So buyer beware... I have a V4 Sidewinder and the plastic one works fine. Hasn't broken.

@tizben 3 жыл бұрын

Any updates on the sidewinder with the .6 nozzle?

@BuddhaBytes15 4 жыл бұрын

Can you do a follow up? How are you liking the X1? Can you do more of these mod tutorials including the ribbon cable walk through and any other upgrades? Just subbed, cheers!

@BuddhaBytes15 4 жыл бұрын

Can you also do a walkthrough on the x-axis cable clamp?

@justincasiere9598 2 жыл бұрын

I'm having issues with the tension being tontight and the gear not moving with the metal arm

@RiposteThis 4 жыл бұрын

When I'm re-tightening the screws, the gear that turns to pull the filament through binds up, it wont turn. Does the shorter screw go in the bottom right hole? How tight do they need to be? It seems like the bottom right one only catches by a couple threads before it's too tight.

@ianm523 4 жыл бұрын

I have the exact same problem. Any chance you figured out the issue???

@RiposteThis 4 жыл бұрын

@@ianm523 so my main problem was at first, the bearing from the plastic idler stays on the post, so when I put on the new one I didn't see that. And then I also have a problem with the bearing falling out of the metal one because there is a bit of a gap, so I put a small crush washer in there to space it out from the gearing thing.

@njco78 3 жыл бұрын

Hello is this clamp going to work for the Genius version? thx

@markwebcraft 3 жыл бұрын

Genius uses the extact same extruder, so yes 👍

@dansandy7670 Жыл бұрын

Have you had any feeding issues after installing this product?

@Fugatech3DPrinting Жыл бұрын

No but the printer was donated to a maker space and is still going strong for them.

@oscarmpinto75 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, but in mi x1 the other wheel is in plastic also, where did you buy that one?

@Fugatech3DPrinting 3 жыл бұрын

There are links in the description of where to buy the one I got.

@justincasiere9598 2 жыл бұрын

I jist watsed 2 rolls of filament thanks to this damn arm

@Mobile_Dom 4 жыл бұрын

i did the same thing but not for a sidewinder, I bought a titan clone and it arrived with a craked idler arm

@gitmac53 4 жыл бұрын

Where does the smaller screw goes? 😅

@andressantana9625 4 жыл бұрын

Isn’t necessary to calibrate the printer after do this?

@Fugatech3DPrinting 4 жыл бұрын

no? Only thing you are changing is the idler arm. That has nothing to do with your e-steps

@FordHenley86 3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure if this is related but I had to replace the all-in-one extruder on my X1 and it seems to be leaning to the right and out of alignment on first use or not in the right spot going forward and back. So now the filament gets pulled behind the intake and back towards the arm. I was curious if anyone had the same issue or if I'm supposed to do something when replacing it.

@FordHenley86 3 жыл бұрын

or the intake is leaning to the right. I have to put a screw driver to bend it to the left to alight with the arm

@Fugatech3DPrinting 3 жыл бұрын

I found a small spacer that you can print out and that keeps the idler arm straight. You can find them on Thingiverse.

@FordHenley86 3 жыл бұрын

@@Fugatech3DPrinting cool what would I search for?

@markwebcraft 3 жыл бұрын

The problem with this is that ur loosing the hobbed bearing inside the plastic artillery part. Could the bearing be removed and swapped to the metal 1?

@Fugatech3DPrinting 3 жыл бұрын

I'm not following what you mean.

@markwebcraft 3 жыл бұрын

The bearing that presses against the filament is shaped differently on the new arm you installed versus the original arm u removed. There's a groove in the old bearing that help with keeping the filament aligned correctly that the new bearing doesn't have. Can the old bearing be removed and put onto the new metal arm?

@Fugatech3DPrinting 3 жыл бұрын

Ah that one. Yes! You just need to knock the pin out and you can switch it over.

@Blinkation 4 жыл бұрын

there's no controversy about this, just fan boys that will jump to defend their favorite brand or whatever. they just don't get that we want the company to change crappy parts so everyone can have a better product. instead they will try to blame it on you and say you shouldn't touch the arm but to change filament using the touch screen, yeah...

@mururoa7024 4 жыл бұрын

Add a bead of thermal paste (any cheap ones used for CPU heat sinks) between the heat sink and the extruder's plate.

@Fugatech3DPrinting 4 жыл бұрын

I don't really understand why. The extruder is plastic so it is a horrible heat conductor if they were trying to make it a heatsink.

@mururoa7024 4 жыл бұрын

@@Fugatech3DPrinting That's weird.

@pacomb 3 жыл бұрын

Original idle plastic arm has a bearing with a groove for the filament. New aluminium one has a plain bearing. Why don't you exchange them??

@Fugatech3DPrinting 3 жыл бұрын

You can...

@pacomb 3 жыл бұрын

Fugatech 3D Printing of course I did it, but I wonder why you don't change it in your video and suggest it

@Fugatech3DPrinting 3 жыл бұрын

I didn't think about it then. My priority was to get an arm installed that wouldn't break.

@IlJokerTheStranj 4 жыл бұрын

I did this upgrade after watching your video but now I'm having an issue with getting it to pull filament. I had to loosen up the screws on the backplate, specifically the ones over the big gear and the pressure knob aka the top 2 just to get it to pull filament. The problem is that the only way it pulls filament is if the screws are so loose that the one over the gear falls out mid-print. I tested it by loosening the screws and then using the load filament feature in order to get the gears to rotate and pull in the filament. I adjusted the two top screws and the pressure knob while it was going so I could see how tight I could make them without the gear getting stuck, but it's no use. The screw over the gear is so loose that it always falls out mid-print. Please help.

@ianm523 4 жыл бұрын

I have the same problem. Did you figure it out???

@bruce02 4 жыл бұрын

I tightened the screws and it put to much pressure on the gears

@bruce02 4 жыл бұрын

But if I don’t tighten it down the carriage wiggles

@Fugatech3DPrinting 4 жыл бұрын

It doesn't need to be that tight. Once you have filament in, it should not wiggle.

@blackjacko 4 жыл бұрын

I’m having the same issue, I cannot tighten to the point that the two parts located above the spring tensioner for the idler cannot touch each other, the short screw barley threads and the whole thing jiggles when tightened to the point where the gear can rotate in un-hindered.... just got the 2020 version yesterday

@IlJokerTheStranj 4 жыл бұрын

@@blackjacko Having the same exact issue. I do not know what to do. The only way I can get the gear to pull filament is to keep the screw that holds it in loose. But I have to keep it so loose that the screw just ends up falling out mid prints, otherwise the gear is stuck. I had tried tightening it while the extruder is extruding to see what the tightest I could make it was before it stopped the gear. I did this adjustment with both screws and the pressure knob on the back, but it's no use. The screws have to remain loose just to get the gear to rotate. Is this an issue specific to the 2020 version. I just got this printer 8 days ago.

@ichbinderalgorithmus2019 3 жыл бұрын

@@IlJokerTheStranj for me it was so that there were still two ball bearings on it, one has to be removed and then it fits too I hope I could help you