THE ULTIMATE SMART THERMOSTAT? - Tado Smart Thermostat Installation

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THE ULTIMATE SMART THERMOSTAT? - Tado Smart Thermostat Installation.
Join me as I install a superbly simple and ingenius smart thermostat at Lee's house in order to save him energy and enable him to control his heating and hot water from his home. The smart radiator valves are a key feature which enable each room to be individually controlled. I guide you through the Tado smart thermostat installation process in this video to help you all see just how simple it is!
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Time Stamps:
00:00 Start
01:24 Unboxing
04:28 Smart Radiator Valves
05:52 Current House Setup
07:32 Why you should read the instructions
08:30 Pairing Internet Bridge
09:40 Pairing The Thermostat
10:28 Mounting the Smart Thermostat
13:36 Two Types of Kits
15:00 Configuring your room thermostat
15:39 Testing the system
16:40 Installing the Smart Radiator Valves
17:08 Installing the app
18:49 Smart Radiator Valve Pairing
20:05 Mounting the smart radiator valves
23:37 Tado Thermostat E4 Error
24:07 Wireless Temperature Sensors
25:40 Review of Tado App functions
27:17 1 Week Later
30:24 Installing the hot water controller extension box
33:06 Conclusion
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@artisanelectrics 2 жыл бұрын

Get your Tado Smart Thermostat here: Starter Kit with Hot Water Control: amzn.to/30ExYTN Starter Kit for Combi Boilers: amzn.to/3APOm01 Smart Radiator Valve Quatro Pack: amzn.to/3n1ZMsR

@saschastevenson1231 2 жыл бұрын

Mötley Crüe album in the house, you've hired a good man ;)

@missionairsoft5491 2 жыл бұрын

Plus beer fridge next to the main tv 👍

@michaelboyes4948 2 жыл бұрын

More importantly one of the best Blink 182 albums on LP 🤘

@mrgfromoxford8644 2 жыл бұрын

I love at the beginning he was going to fit the room stat in the airing cupboard!!!! Derrrr

@TheDevilVaper 2 жыл бұрын

A nice system in a beautiful house! Nice one, Lee! I personally have the Schneider Wiser Smart Heating System and it works pretty well with all the thermostatic valves etc.

@Ewanl31 2 жыл бұрын

Love the opening to the video. You look like you are about to talk to a therapist about problems in your relationship. how he is always working and makes no time for you. whilst he doesnt think about you feelings lol.

@heathcotesj Жыл бұрын

absolutely what I was looking for as I have a similar setup in my house with a Worcester combi boiler plus a hot water tank and a WIRED thermostat. So now I know I need to decommission the old WIRED thermostat and use the Tado WIRELESS one, and also install the TADO WIRELESS receiver to replace my Drayton controller ‘Lifestyle LP822’ that controls the hot water tank temp and central heating system temp. Thank you!

@geertcrommentuijn 2 жыл бұрын

I bought one a few days ago. It is sooo easy to install.

@DrRusty5 2 жыл бұрын

Tado is brilliant

@scousepete050569 2 жыл бұрын

Tado is such a great and easy to install system even for a novice, you tell them your system and they will send you installation instructions to the app (not to do you out of a job) wirless sensors absolute waste of money as trvs do the same job, if you have old none trv radiators maybe. Keep up the great work all. Your videos are informative and great fun 😊

@arronbloomberg605 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Jordan

@gregf9160 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely amazing, Pure Dalek technology 👍🤣

@ScottMackey Жыл бұрын

Great job! Nicely explained everything and help detailed steps too. I'm just about to install mine too. Thanks for the help :)

@totalsnooker 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. Few points I’ve had the Tado system installed for 2 years now. I have thermostat in hallway and radiator Tado trv on all radiators. In lounge is only room with 2 radiators and both have a Tado smart trv. I also have Tado Air con controllers in 2 rooms and have inter-grated Tado with HomeKit. Batteries in trv last well over 1 year, Tado email you and all tells you when going flat so you get plenty of time to change them. Just 2 batteries required. If you have 2 trv in same room they auto sync together so when you adjust one radiator both adjust. If you have a Tado trv in same room as a wall thermostat they sync so again when adjust temp on wall mounted stat the radiator will adjust. System has protection for boiler in place to stop boiler turning on and off to quickly with a delay built in. App allows you to set schedules for each room almost infinite on off times allowed. Geo fence means you can have it auto turn off when leave or arrive home. Open windows turn off system - you set for how long. You can by wall mounted controls that can control air conditioning units that also seamlessly sync with your heating. Tado fully works with Apple HomeKit so you can ask Siri to turn on off rooms even increase or decrease temps. Siri can even control your air con. You can set automations with HomeKit that control Tado. I’ve never had a problem with Tado working with HomeKit. Tado will auto monitor your boiler and detect any faults or performance issues. The app has lots of features like outside and indoor air quality, humidity and more. You can get reports on energy consumption and even how your consumption compares to other users in your areas. I’ve saved around £150 per year with this system. If consider getting Tado you should definitely get the Radiator trvs installed along side the starter kit for maximum benefit and control. Some features require an annual subscription of £25 aprox which is well worth it. The app is excellent and easy to use. Multiple users can download the app and use the same system eg other household members. When installing you can select non professional and the app will ask you some simple questions eg boiler make and thermostat make. You then take a picture of your boiler on the app and then the app will give you personalised installation instructions for your system with step by step pictures. Adding to the system later on is easy and the technical support if needed is their for you. Everything is good quality and easy to instal. I’ve previously had the Nest thermostat but the features Tado offer and app function is far superior.

@Chris-hy6jy 2 жыл бұрын

Good sales pitch! 😉😂

@totalsnooker 2 жыл бұрын

@@Chris-hy6jy would be if I sold them but just sharing my experience for others.

@pumpkinhead456 2 жыл бұрын

How much did all of the kit cost? Just wondering how long it will take to pay for itself...

@hks-lion 2 жыл бұрын

I have a tado system and so does my mum. The best part about it is the fact you can change the trvs giving you room control. The batteries don’t always last 12 months for me maybe 10 months. Also the temperature at the trv is not always indicative of the rest of the room. However, this can be offset or you can get a separate thermostat to place in the middle of the room, although this does add additional cost. Sometimes the trvs don’t completely close off the radiator so you might get some heating coming through on some radiators but it is less than you would without it. I wouldn’t change the system for anything else but it’s not quite perfect yet.

@Chris-hy6jy 2 жыл бұрын

@@hks-lion All TRVs give you room control though, that's exactly what they were invented for. You don't need TRVs with batteries and a display to do that.

@Big-Cjl-Chris 2 жыл бұрын

I love your work guys I will be honest the first thing I noticed was Lee's drinks shelf..

@altypeRR 2 жыл бұрын

Tado is amazing. I did mine a few years ago and honestly it saves money. But also the smart features make it

@activerfid2366 2 жыл бұрын

Love the video

@Gr1m420x 2 жыл бұрын

Wonder how many things Lee had to hide before your visit 😂

@grantrimmell9005 2 жыл бұрын

I see they forgot to blur out the ermm "nude art" on the walls midway through but then blurred it out at the end! Haha

@barryturner1146 2 жыл бұрын

Well done jordan

@k50kwl 2 жыл бұрын

I have the Tado system installed and it does save a fortune in Gas used. However I have not found any purpose for the room sensor. It is just a digital readout. The thermostatic valves are your room sensor. I would also point out that if you are planning to install thermostat rad controllers, it is important to leave one or two radiators open. I use the towel rails as the open circuits. This prevents the system closing off the flow around the primary heating circuit and burning out the circulating pump.

@leosedf Жыл бұрын

A differential pressure valve will save you from having a radiator open all time and will save you more money. You can also specify which sensor you want to use for the room, either the trv or the wireless sensor.

@ThePnutBrewery 2 жыл бұрын

I've had these installed for years now, really good, love the geofencing that turns the whole lot off and on. The radiator valves are great but batteries run out a few times a year

@albanbirch 2 жыл бұрын

I got Li-Ion batteries, they last ages and are rechargeable.

@hks-lion 2 жыл бұрын

@@albanbirch do the Li Ion batteries work well with tado?

@albanbirch 2 жыл бұрын

@@hks-lion they work perfectly. They last between 6 and 9 months before I have to recharge them.

@hks-lion 2 жыл бұрын

@@albanbirch awesome thanks for the tip 👍🏻

@rodgerq Жыл бұрын

Tado recommend Panasonic eneloop rechargeable batteries. These have been found not to give a false battery low alarm that some other rechargeables have been known to do. I did read that the latest version of the trv had overcome that flaw but I haven't seen that in person to verify.

@RichardArblaster 2 жыл бұрын

Great video 😎

@artisanelectrics 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 😁

@JohnThomas-ey1hx 2 жыл бұрын

This video is a perfect example of why the Tado system is not as straightforward to either buy or install compared to the Drayton Wiser system. It looks modern and slick, but so messy trying to work out what you need to buy and so many people have been caught out buying the wrong kit like yourselves. Even the website doesn't help you out any better. I was originally going to buy the Tado system, but after getting confused about what is the right kit to buy and reading about so many people having connection issues in larger houses with the TRVs, I went for the Drayton Wiser system. So much simpler to buy and install (Combi kit, HW + 1 CH Zone, or HW + 2 CH zones), no internet bridge needed and new hub simply clicks onto the existing std wiring harness of the old programmer saving the need for any re-wiring. Wired room thermostat needs to be bridged at either the thermostat end or at the wiring centre end (after removing or disconnecting the thermostat wiring). Any connection issues can be resolved by adding the smart plugs to extend the mesh network to the farther points of your property, but I didn't need this. Also the smart radiator valves are where the cost mounts up and Tado's are more expensive than Wiser's. Think it would be really useful to you you produce a video comparing the two systems now that you have installed both systems now to see how they compare for installation and daily use.

@SpiralDogma1990 Жыл бұрын

I have the entire tado devices controling heat. But the best part is that it can control my heating via BUS connection. So it can request ex. 20% heating and stop from overshooting temps. Really amazing product. Only issue is the smart open window feature sucks. If a open window is detected it starts heating after a certain period of time. NOT when you close the window, worst part is that you can not use a window sensor to ensure heating does not start until you close the window.

@jsptravels 2 жыл бұрын

There’s also a different version for boilers with existing wireless thermostats too .. not just for systems with cyclinders. As well as the thermostat, that kit comes with a wireless receiver that is wired into the boiler. The thermostat can then be placed wherever you want, wire free. If you have a Hive or a Nest you’ll know what I mean.

@GlennBroadway Жыл бұрын

I can’t work out how this system would work with a Combi boiler - Can the individual TADOs demand the boiler to deliver hot water?

@BMUZZ2 2 жыл бұрын

Cheeky Mötley Crüe Dr. Feelgood and Blink 182 in the background. Respect.

@IanCoxdevonseaglass 2 жыл бұрын

Ian I came across this discussion. Ideally the room thermostat should be located in a cool room, usually the last room to warm up. That way the other rooms will be warm enough, (but not overheated because of their TRV’s) before the room thermostat switches the entire heating system off. Locate it elsewhere and it will turn off all of the heating before the rest of the house is warm enough. The room thermostat should be in a room that is not effected by other sources of heat such as an open fire, cooking equipment, or sunlight etc. It should not be near a radiator, hidden in a corner or behind furniture. The radiator in the room with the thermostat installed should not have a TRV fitted. Otherwise the TRV may interfere with the correct operation of the room thermostat. Based on the above, the hall may often be the most suitable location. A thermostat located in the hall, should be set so that the hall doesn't heat up too quickly. For example a thermostat in the hall could be set to 19 C and because it is the last room to warm up, the bedrooms TRV's will start to shut the bedroom rads down at 18 C, the lounge & dining room will get to 21 C and the kitchen 19 C, all before the Hall reaches 19 C and shuts the entire heating system down. The issue then is if, say the lounge TRVs demand heating, and the thermostat in the hall has shut the system down, what happens next?

@jsouto77 2 жыл бұрын

You are correct for most part but the thermostat in the hallway (coldest part) wants to be set the temperature you want ie. 20-21 C. Being the the is the coldest part, it will allow the warmer rooms to reach temperature before it shuts off. You then spend some time adjusting TRV's (if manual) as to what temperatures you want in those rooms. As for your last question, this system can be setup so that each thermostat can call for heat hence overriding each other including the main one.

@musakhan7199 Жыл бұрын

Good Video , I bought the starter kit from Screwfix but boy do I regret it. Tado Support is pretty useless . My boiler switches on automatically even if the wireless thermostat is switched off. read the trust pilot reviews the most recent ones .

@kylelivingstone3830 2 жыл бұрын

Mötley crüe and black sabbath, class!

@jsouto77 2 жыл бұрын

Oh dear, Jordan. I dont think you knew these at all. First of all, there are only two types of starter kit. One is wired if you have an existing wired thermostat (like on this installation) and the other is a wireless if you dont have an existing wired thermostat or want to change placement hence nothing to do with the type of boiler. Also hence you had the correct one to start with just bridge upstairs (switch to always on). If you wanted to control the hot water from within Tado, then you could of just bought the extension as an add-on but do bare in mind that this is not needed for combi boilers since the demand is controlled by the tap. Also in this instance where you have a hot water tank, the recommendation is to always leave it on for efficiency and the only time you would probably want to turn it off would be if you left the house unoccupied for very long periods ie. weeks.

@ml9052 Жыл бұрын

@William Tell I'm hoping that the immersion has a 'remote' switch, normally located in the kitchen or near bathroom which is off.

@jamescullen4196 2 жыл бұрын

His a Spurs fan 🤙🏻 up the Spurs YID ARMY

@AdmPugh 2 жыл бұрын

Hi great video, when are we going to see you upgrade the heating in Cora’s house.

@jemselectrical9239 Жыл бұрын

According to my assessor on my annual NIC EIC inspection, Fluke T600 or T1000 multi testers aren't allowed for use when doing safe isolation. I was a bit surprised when he took issue with them, especially as I've used them for every inspection since registration ten years ago 😂 All multi testers aren't allowed due to potential for mis selection of what they are measuring apparently🤷🏼‍♂️

@superwas12 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, can you enable location on your phone so the heating comes on when your a set distance away from home??

@maidbloke 2 жыл бұрын

14:30 Bit surprised that Lee (obviously a very technical and talented chap who knows a lot about electrical installations) left his hot water on 24/7.

@edwinkernan262 Жыл бұрын

What happens when you have multiple radiators in one room? Can they work from (1) thermostat sensor?

@oldbutstillcurious3615 2 жыл бұрын

Jordan: Can I use the tado wifi radiator valves without any tado smart wall temperature sensors or boiler controller. I already have a wifi boiler programmer accessible because my boiler is in the loft? A big plus for me would be the ability to individually schedule on and off time for each individual radiator, naturally my existing boiler timer would be set to 'constantly on' at a convenient temperature i.e. as it is now.

@gregorythomas333 2 жыл бұрын

Pretty nifty tech...though we wouldn't use them in my area...only about 2-3 weeks of "winter" where we need heating...99% too hot/humid.

@martindaugaard490 2 жыл бұрын

can you make a video about Smart Home alternative to something like Wavin AHC9000. I have heating in the floors and the controller in the heating room. Thanks.

@TheADiggins 2 жыл бұрын

Why didn’t you use the Tado hot water extension kit ? It replaces the current program switch and controls hot water etc.

@Cablesmith 2 жыл бұрын

10:12 Come on Lee, what is this ! 😂 You all know what I’m talking about 😝

@obcallum6450 2 жыл бұрын

Artistic door trim I think, Lee enjoys his abstract art😂

@tommymack3210 2 жыл бұрын

We dont really use radiators in Norway in private homes. We have heating cables in the floors and heatingpumps/AC.

@kgfgfg1 2 жыл бұрын

Heating cables with electricity or water?

@bencampbell2041 2 жыл бұрын

As a tado user things to be aware of: a) 10 room/25 device limit - not great for larger houses b) the TRVs seem to massively overread when installed vertically as they are too close to the radiator. You can adjust with a temperature offset but then they underread when heating is off. They really need to release an inexpensive wireless thermostat to counter this (or better programming to identify the overread when on). The smart wireless thermostats at ~£60 is ridiculous for a temperature sensor. c) You seemed to install the wireless sensor and the TRV as two separate bedroom 1s? You can add them both in the same room and set the wireless sensor as the room controller. Generally a bit of a flawed system unfortunately as has a lot of promise.

@hmallett 2 жыл бұрын

Agree with your second point 100%. I have one TRV horizontal and the rest vertical. The vertical ones open and close all the time. The horizontal one does a better job of regulating the room temperature.

@michellefoster1020 2 жыл бұрын

When are you going to start installing heat pumps

@kenknowles51 2 жыл бұрын

Had the Tado smart TRV system for a number of years now, and while it's quite a good idea, I've found the implementation to be a bit buggy and more annoyingly the rad valves don't mesh + the reciever unit range is very limited (at least in a 30s brick built property) and there is no mechanism to add an additional receiver. When a TRV drops off the network and is still calling for heat, the boiler continues to run and waste gas (usually through the night!) - because it can no longer tell the current temp or if heat it still required - but due to the limited radio implementation there is no way to resolve the issue. All tado suggest is to move the reciever somewhere central (which is not necessarily practical since it needs to be wired to the router and have a usb power supply!). Battery life is also not great in my experience. Also had difficulty getting adaptors to hold the TRVs securely to the rads, with them sometimes popping off the radiators that don't have threaded valves. I'd probably look at another system if I had the choice again - hive have smart valves now. (Although I have no idea if that would be any better). Tado need to add an ability for the TRVs to mesh to range extend, improve the range of the gateway or support adding repeater gateways. Until then the system will never be reliable in all properties.

@davimatheson Жыл бұрын

this is the problem i have as well, pretty useless customer service as well

@tomorichard 2 жыл бұрын

12.05 doesn’t matter which way 👍

@gainmaster1 Жыл бұрын

Does the Tado app show the temp of water in cylinder with a probe or does it just bring on the immersion heater and the immersion cuts out on internal stat on element?

@mage1915 7 ай бұрын

Does the heater need to be on or off? Like at number zero or five for example? Before you put the digital radiator on I mean, does the valve need to be on or off?

@paulsandiford Жыл бұрын

Hi Am I correct that if I get the TADO smart thermerstate and TADO smart thermerstatic radiator valves the TRVs will only go as hot as the tempriture set on the smart thermerstat eg if the wall smart thermerstat is set at 20 and I want a radiator to go up to 22 will it do it or do I also have to turn the wall smart thermerstate up to 22?

@WillCoProductions 2 жыл бұрын

Does Lee like the Isle of Man TT I take it ahah

@greenmoss Жыл бұрын

Could someone please explain the difference between the cheaper Basic TVRs and the Smart TVR.

@alltechinbox 2 жыл бұрын

Costco currently have a good offer

@kieranmccreedy271 2 жыл бұрын

Normally the CH is configured with one none thermostatic valve. This means if the thermostat calls for heat at least one rad is open. With the tado you can have all rads on thermostatic valves. Tado will manage the interlocking making sure at least one rad is open before calling for heat (basically like a UFH manifold).

@SpiralDogma1990 Жыл бұрын

Good to know. I left one "dumb" thermostat on a radiator just for that purpose. Even removed the knob so no one could turn it off

@roryhall5199 2 жыл бұрын

Don’t think I have ever seen lee smile

@shaniapearcey 2 жыл бұрын

Looks stoned here 😂

@reindrescher9092 2 жыл бұрын

What was Jordan’s “Basically” count in this video 😝

@gibfear Жыл бұрын

Why did they remove Opentherm from the standard wireless unit????

@potterkop Жыл бұрын

If you have more radiators in a room you can pick a master temperature provider which makes the other thermostate a slave

@MrBobmeadows 2 жыл бұрын

Nice job. Not too tough an install, as long as you get the old manual thermostat wiring the normally open and common bridged. So one question: Why have a room thermostat, if the radiators have thermostats? Room thermostats seem redundant, if all radiators are independent.

@inthapipeline 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve had the Tado system for around two years. Technically, yes, the room thermostats are essentially redundant. However, they can and do serve some purpose; because the smart valves contain the thermostats AT the radiators, they often detect the temperature as higher than it is in the rest of the room. This can be accounted for in the app by setting a temperature offset. But a better way is to have a thermostat, head/body height, with the valves linked to this. This way the temperature is more accurately measured. I’ve not bothered in most of my rooms but I did do this in my toddler’s bedroom with the thermostat placed quite low at around the height that he sleeps.

@martincawley31 Жыл бұрын

We have several rooms with multiple radiators. How does this system cope with setting the temperature in one of those rooms? Will the system turn on the boiler if the temperature drops in one room?

@rodgerq Жыл бұрын

With rooms with more than one rad, you add the Trvs to each rad then choose one in the app to be the measuring device for the room. Not ideal in a big room really but that's why they do the wireless tenp sensors as well. And yes, the system can control the temperature separately in each room that you have the Trvs fitted.

@philipsmith0752 2 жыл бұрын

good interresting video Jordan and Lee . ( who needs Cory and Rueben for the entreatment ?)😁

@ohyeah2816 Жыл бұрын

Would like a setup but by the time I’d bought the parts and had someone in to do the electrics it wouldn’t be worth it. Maybe if we have to have another boiler in 5 years.

@goodplacereviewer2495 2 жыл бұрын

Can you explain what the normally open and normally closed cables control ?

@dang8795 2 жыл бұрын

Whatever you like 😊 They are just switches that make or break a circuit

@michaelviney3737 2 жыл бұрын

Doing paid promotions diminishes Artisan. Customers can no longer rely on sound independent advice on what equipment to purchase. Looking at the reviews on Amazon for this equipment would have me doing comparisons with other manufacturers and looking at the return on my investment.

@tomhilditch3882 2 жыл бұрын

Shame the Digital connection was not utilised, the boiler looks like an Ideal/Keston these are opentherm compatible. Boilers are not just switches, they need to be run at low temperatures. I would advise speaking to a Heating technician who understands how to make modulation controls work.

@paul_my_plumbs_uk 2 жыл бұрын

My bearded wife likes to be kept happy with a credit card 😂😂😂

@kwesiboateng04 2 ай бұрын

Not enough explanation on setting up the wiring

@jsptravels 2 жыл бұрын

And you can even link your Tado to certain energy suppliers so that you get better energy usage reports when used with a smart meter …

@inthapipeline 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve not found this. Where is this setting?

@jsptravels 2 жыл бұрын

@@inthapipeline so if it’s offered it’ll be in your online account for your energy supplier and not the Tado app.

@jsptravels 2 жыл бұрын

Not all energy companies have an integration with Tado though.

@gryzman Жыл бұрын

doesn't modulate the boiler? Strange for them to pay you to install it and film - but not give you the top of the range version .

@allybaker712 2 жыл бұрын

So many questions! Battery life/renewals on the rad valves. I have a huge site (steam museum) what’s the range of the receivers, can you link via your existing meshed WiFi instead. Can the internet link get a fixed IP address. Hmmmm thinking head on.

@bencampbell2041 2 жыл бұрын

Check out the max rooms/max device limits on Tado - unlikely to suit your requirements

@allybaker712 2 жыл бұрын

@@bencampbell2041 Cheers

@bimiuk4051 Жыл бұрын

Anybody managed to get the TADO EU model working using Opentherm and PDHW on a S PLAN with System Boiler and Water Tank? Plsssss anybody??

@FlotionStudios 2 жыл бұрын

FYI you don’t need the wireless thermostat in a room if you’ve got the smart radiator valve as it had a thermostat built in

@anahatamelodeon 2 жыл бұрын

The trouble with TRVs on the radiator is that they don't measure the temperature of the room at the best place. They didn't make it clear what happens when you have both, but hopefully if there's a wireless sensor in the room that takes precedence, and if there isn't, the radiator's own TRV takes control.

@jasondvd79 Жыл бұрын

Hi, I was going to install the Tado smart thermostat on my Vaillant Ecotec 831 boiler however I spoke with an engineer who said while it can be done the Ecotec boilers it will not run as efficiently as they would using their own controllers. This is due to vaillant having their own Ebus chip and third party controllers can only control the boiler to be on or off rather than gradual heat control, this wasn't always the case with the previos vr65 which I think were opentherm but since the vr66 this seems to not work aswell with third party. Because of this I decided to only purchase the Tado radiator thermostats which come with the bridge in order to run those as an extra while keeping my Vaillant controller. Please can you or anyone else confirm this to be true?

@michealkarumba7362 Жыл бұрын

Yes that is correct. Vaillant use their own communication language call eBus. But Vaillant have their own controller which is very good. You'd need the vSmart controller. It also uses local weather station data to anticipate changes in heat requirements. More effective if you happen to be close to your local weather station. A third party controller such as the Tado will still work, its just that it will act as an on/off switch rather than modulate the boiler output. It's a shame Vaillant don't support opentherm to give more options, but the Ecotec's are great boilers and the vSmart is a great controller

@kentmasic 2 жыл бұрын

forgot to blur the wall pictures 24:00 - 27:00 :) naughty lee

@MW-cr7pn 2 жыл бұрын

Does this system need you to have WiFi?

@stuartarnold9444 2 жыл бұрын

It greates it's own Wi-Fi using the bridge that is plugged in to your broadband router.

@iftekharhussain7218 Жыл бұрын

25 degrees the highest???

@raymyhill2277 2 жыл бұрын

Never Never Ever let your boss into your private life or your house familiarity always breeds contempt.

@effervescence5664 2 жыл бұрын

Tado is good but from an installer perspective it's limited on property size. Tend to find the actuators get stuck or in summer have jammed the pins down (no different than honeywell or other "smart TRVs" in that regard) which normally ends up with a plumbing call out. The TRV's aren't essential though and provide limited benefit over a traditional wax stat TRV considering most will be set for life to their respective use case and the over all smart control governing the house will have more impact on bills. As a side note that open vented combination cylinder (expansion and fill tank directly above hot water cylinder in the same unit) being changed out to a pressurized system would likely save equal or more energy depending on usage.

@dan.vitale 2 жыл бұрын

that is one snug sofa.

@Swwils 2 жыл бұрын

The efficiency of the system is entirely capped by how low your boiler can modulate. If a single smart TRV calls for heat it's unlikely to be enough demand for your boiler to not cycle and obviously nothing is changing the flow temperature of the system.

@rodgerq Жыл бұрын

Tado can communicate in all the main digital languages like opentherm etc, it just requires wiring into the boiler differently than just your standard on-off switched live wiring. There's a pro installer instruction manual on their website explaining the wiring for the main boiler manufacturers and how to setup the thermostat in order for it to be able to modulate the boiler. That's what makes tado stand out from the other smart thermostat systems.

@andrewc5932 Жыл бұрын

@@rodgerq assuming that only works if the boiler can modulate thought right?

@rodgerq Жыл бұрын

@@andrewc5932 yeah, the boiler must be able to modulate. In not a heating engineer but I'd hazard a guess that the vast majority, if not all, modern condensing boilers are able to modulate the burner and the pump.

@niall5181 2 жыл бұрын

Surely your going to need a bucket full of batteries...

@steves009 2 жыл бұрын

yay something other than a EV charger install woohoo

@n0spam911 Жыл бұрын

why the Tado doesn't have Wi-Fi built into the main thermostat, so you can use it w/o the bridge, seems dumb. It is, especially if there are no spare Ethernet ports or power sockets nearby.

@91Shortay 2 жыл бұрын

Lee look's uncomfortable lol

@MalcolmCrabbe 2 жыл бұрын

Thumbs down... not a reptile in sight - thought there was some new fangled thermostat for vivariums

@carlrobson5745 2 жыл бұрын

I spy motley crue dr feel good whitesnake love humter Black Sabbath paranoid on the shelf

@andrewuk8363 Жыл бұрын

Lee can't be that cosy in the front room because he has stairs in there which will lead to heat going upstairs! Also I've found out turning off radiators in unused rooms the boiler still uses the same amount of energy if it's heating 1 radiator or 10 radiators. It makes sense in a way however yes the boiler will come on and switch off accordingly a bit quicker than normal depending on 1 fact: don't turn off the radiator where the thermostat is else it will think everywhere is cold. Another good tip is to close all your doors where the thermostat is located so the reading will reach what you set it at rather than heating the whole house/flat

@sirronnitram8937 2 жыл бұрын

Why does Lee get all the freebies? Cory and Reuben should go on strike

@lewis94uk 2 жыл бұрын

Don't think Cory or Rooban own a house, where as Lee does.

@jimmyc38 2 жыл бұрын

There are quite a lot of Tado sponsored KZfaqrs out there, and unfortunately this undermines their channel. If you’re going to do a review of smart heating systems, then do a few and report on each one. Getting some form of reward for installing a system is no way biased towards their features 😂

@artisanelectrics 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve done loads of smart thermostat installs if you check previous videos

@artisanelectrics 2 жыл бұрын

Nest, Hive and Wiser have all be installed in previous videos

@andybrewer2101 2 жыл бұрын

Love the videos, but I honestly think thermostats and heating programmers should be left to plumbers as electricians can’t change any cables in the boiler if you need to!

@michaelboyes4948 2 жыл бұрын

Incorrect it even says in your boiler manuals for electrical work to be carried out by a qualified electrician, any electrician and plumber can go into a boiler the only thing they can't do is break the combustion seal I.e the heat exchanger or touch any gas parts without being gas safe registered etc...

@WILCO1uk 2 жыл бұрын

Try telling that to the plumber who installed my combi boiler. Because there wasn't a fused spur in the same room as the boiler, he wanted to leave it running off a 10m extension lead!! He also screwed my tado extender to teh wall...10 degrees from horizontal

@tylertempah 2 жыл бұрын

I would love to work at artisan but I know nothing about electrics 😂just a dirty tarmacer

@davidvincent5244 2 жыл бұрын

You don't need to have additional thermostat for the system to work. The Tvr work independently and have the thermostat in~built. Give them the 69 pound thermometer back. You should really go to the training before telling others the wrong information.

@artisanelectrics 2 жыл бұрын

I did make this clear later on in the video

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@stevesnell6660 Жыл бұрын

That wasn't a safe isolation. Please be careful. You should know better

@Chris-hy6jy 2 жыл бұрын

Poor Lee is going to spend the rest of his life changing batteries every 5 minutes. Another "solution" to a problem that never existed 🤦‍♂️

@tommcdermott5641 2 жыл бұрын

Do you get your batteries from eBay?

@Chris-hy6jy 2 жыл бұрын

@@tommcdermott5641 do you have one of these systems?

@tommcdermott5641 2 жыл бұрын

Hive with the TRV’s, not had to change any of the original batteries in 15 months.

@totalsnooker 2 жыл бұрын

Batteries last ages. Cheap and easy to change. Also no more stuck TRVs through lack of use. Money saving by being able to adjust individual rads. No downside at all

@effervescence5664 2 жыл бұрын

@@totalsnooker TRV's don't tend to stick through lack of use, more often than not it's due to people leaving them set down in summer and the pins jamming. Sadly something still not passed on to most end users. There's also downsides to Tado/Honeywell and other smart stats being the actuators are equally able to fail due to loss of signal, the pins in the valve body jamming, batteries depending on use case scenario (often the first 6 months/winter) when people have them new and are endlessly playing with them. Education is far more impactful than replacing mechanical controls with smart tech.

@Kurdos20000 7 ай бұрын

35 minutes of my life wasted... the only reason I watched this video is see how you connect the old wires from the old system control to the new Tado Wireless Receiver! and you both just talked amongst each other and skipped the important part! this video was just a Tado advertising palaver!

@Chris-hy6jy 2 жыл бұрын

Heating = set to 21 degrees all year round on the main stat, then set your rad valves to get the desired temp in each room... Hot water = on constant all year round. The tank stat does the rest. No need for any of this expensive nonsense.

@kbunboxing938 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely

@barrieshepherd7694 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly - why would I need to have an Internet connection and an account on a distant server just to control my heating!!

@richardpawlowski4540 2 жыл бұрын

I think you misunderstand how these radiator valves work. Unlike mechanical TRVs which can only respond to changes in temperature opening and closing as required but they cannot switch the heating on, that requires you to override any programming. These valves have heating on demand, on our similar Hive system I only need to tell Alexa to heat up the room I am using and the system will simply heat that room that is a real boon for those working from home perhaps spending most of the day in a home office no wasted heat and a saving on the gas bill.

@barrieshepherd7694 2 жыл бұрын

@@richardpawlowski4540 It's a moot point as to whether the saving on gas is real or imaginary. If you arrange a typical UK heating system so that a single radiator can override a timer control and 'demand' heat the system still has to heat up the whole heating distribution system and that will cause other radiators to draw heat unless the system has closed them down. You are still heating all the feed pipes in the system. Extrapolate this and you get to a situation where your office is cosy, the pipe work is cosy but the rest of the house has cooled to chilly - then when you want to go cook dinner or watch TV you have to add a lot of heat to get those rooms up to temperature. What Chris (above) was proposing was run the heating to keep the whole house 'temperate' (although I disagree with his 21C I'd go for 17/18) and let normal thermostatic valves adjust/balance each room temperature to your desired offset (e.g. cooler in bedrooms warmer in bathrooms). Then you can increase the single stat to bring the temperature up /down as you wish - if you need you can go turn off individual rooms. While this does not have the street cred of IOT turning things on and off from afar it is a lot cheaper than filling the house with IOT controls and controlling your heating and hot water via some external server. As I started, it is a moot point as various 'experts' subscribe to each view point - one school of thought adds that having heating completely off causes condensation which then requires even more energy to raise temperatures. I suspect that, in a final analysis, the construction of the property, the way the heating is installed and the level of insulation all make the equations complex hence the lack of an absolute recommendations. I run my heating for comfort, not absolute degrees - on a twice per day timer, with the general stat at 18C and rad stats set for the heat level I want in each room. If it suddenly gets chilly I just lift the general stat temperature and/or override the timer. I've looked at smart solutions but, for the size & layout of my 3 bed bungalow, I cannot see any benefit in 'investing' in IOT solutions - much as the geek in me wants to!. But each to his own:-)

@richardpawlowski4540 2 жыл бұрын

Barrie I admit that some parts of the piping will have to get hot but I do not think to the extent you are saying. At night our system goes to anti frost setting I have often boosted the bedroom alone if I am doing some late night reading and with the exception of the bathroom which is the official bypass all other radiators stay cold and there is no heating in the pipe stubs to them. When a radiator valve is closed all the water in the pipe work from where it branches off the main pipes is not circulating so only heating by convection can occur which from my experience is very little. Back in the old days when most houses only had a back boiler and a hot water tank upstairs known as a gravity feed system the heat rising caused a circulation to heat the tank but at best you could perhaps hang a couple of radiators off such a system before you had to start pumping water around a system.