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Barret's Deck Project - EP 8 - Mounting Handrail Posts
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Күн бұрынI had a few hours this morning to help Barret on his deck project so we mounted the posts for the handrail. I think I am ready to give in and get some help from Paco on the decking which is next :)
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@ArtisanTony 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine a world where the internet do not limit the minds of the poeples. Imagine handrails that are different! Imagine you are not a sheep. Imagine that you have your own personality and there are no limits. Imagine a world where crappy treated 4x4's do not exist :) Imagine yourself building a deck and not walking lock step with pretty youtube influencers :) Now, you are prepared for life :)
@blackout7629 3 жыл бұрын
How do u cover the bottom of the deck with the rails Protruding off the side
@ArtisanTony 3 жыл бұрын
@@blackout7629 who covers the bottom of a deck? lol and they do not protrude anyway. Don't do drugs. :) but maybe tell what you mean.
@lexWest612 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate this video.
@ArtisanTony 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! :)
@mikedavymaru555 4 жыл бұрын
I've had decks damaged due to water intrusion thru the nail and or screws thru the decking. Now I put a piece of butyl tape across the joist top to protect them. Has been working for me.
@michaelbetz8332 Жыл бұрын
So I have been doing decks since 1983 , and we used to make the notch . Because the guy I was working with showed me that was the way he did it. And he was a great carpenter. But that does not mean that is the only way to do it. Im pretty sure You are not allowed to notch the post now . I always used carrage bolts with washers. I like what and how you did everything . The deck looks nice and the rim joist looks straight! . Nice job!!
@ArtisanTony Жыл бұрын
I started in 1978 and have built them many ways and have settled on a few ways :) My methods to some degree the way materials have evolved. I noticed over the years that notching the posts works ok when you first build it but not so much after they have set in the sun for a few years and cracked and warped and split in half where it was notched from the use of the handrail. Also, if a better wood is used like Ipe or Cumaru which is more stable, you can get by better with notching. Thanks!
@lamafacelinz1 2 жыл бұрын
lol...tips from the pros on tacking the beam in. U go boy!
@rickyjohnson8797 2 жыл бұрын
I used 6x6 posts and notched them. I like notching them. But you don't need to notch if you're using 4x4 post because it doesn't leave enough meat to carry the weight
@saltyshellback 4 жыл бұрын
Dang! If I lived closer, I would come work for pork rinds and twinkies 😁
@ArtisanTony 4 жыл бұрын
haha, cash is easier to find lol
@omarzaidhidalgomoreno8961 3 жыл бұрын
agree! not notching the rails
@ErlefromVa 4 жыл бұрын
Love it! Onward men...looks great!
@7oaksbodyworkandmassagewit711 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot find the follow up episode videos...can you send me the link to complete this project
@pals44 2 жыл бұрын
I plan on using your post mounting on my low existing deck but would like to use a through -the-post 1/8" cable railing system but am concern about "throwing the railing outside the deck" as Trevor B. replied. Would you have experience, recommends or code advice?
@ArtisanTony 2 жыл бұрын
You could use a bottom and top rail in conjunction with your cable rails. I probably would not use this method if I were using cables only. Part of why this system works is that the 2x2's all come down and screw into the header joist/band/box sill and add strength. I am not confident the lateral capability of the rail would be satisfactory using cables only. You could mount the posts on the inside of the band/header joist and this would resist more outward lateral load. I usually add a bracket system to the posts if I am using cable rails.
@KA-ew9le 2 жыл бұрын
Great job..do you not double band the outer rims?
@ArtisanTony 2 жыл бұрын
No need if the joists are sitting on a beam like these are and the band is not supporting any joists. If the joists were only connected to the band/rim joists only and it was supporting the joist between the posts, I would but this is why I like the beam underneath the joists. It gives a cantilever look and also simplifies the band. Thanks!
@johnc8327 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, how thick of screws would you recommend for handrails like this? 3/8" 1/2" 5/8" ?
@ArtisanTony 3 жыл бұрын
We used 2 - 3/8" x 6" lag bolts for each post. It is strong! :)
@RawandCookedVegan Жыл бұрын
When you drilled holes for the lag bolts, did you drill all the way through or to a depth slightly shorter than the bolt? Thanks for a great video.
@ArtisanTony Жыл бұрын
We drilled just through the 4x4 so it threaded into the band of the floor framing. This was to keep the 4x4 from splitting which especially treated pine will do after the sun hits it.
@RawandCookedVegan Жыл бұрын
@@ArtisanTony Thanks for the video and your experience.
@samanderson7745 Жыл бұрын
Why no blocking between the joists?
@ArtisanTony Жыл бұрын
The way this deck is built, it is not needed. The combination of 2" x 10" at 16" o/c, the 5/4" decking and the cantilever on the ends that helps counter act the center moment, it's built like a tank already :) We use bridging (or blocking as you said) on subfloor systems for interior floors because we use sheet goods like advantech and it causes the floor to have more of a bounce than the 5/4" decking we used on the deck. Plus, I have been building them this way for 44 years and have had not troubles :)
@byronolson1221 3 жыл бұрын
Nailing your pickets to the band..really? How do you sweep leaves and debris off the deck? Shouldn't you use 1/2" galvanized on treated lumber "pro"?
@ArtisanTony 3 жыл бұрын
life is hard then you die lol
@northernliving2387 2 жыл бұрын
Question.. Are you using lag bolts instead of Carriage bolts... I've had a bad experience with railing posts and lag bolts.
@ArtisanTony 2 жыл бұрын
If installed properly they work great. If you just try to drive them in without predrilling, they can split out the wood. But I started in 1978 and have used thousands of lag bolts. Code requires them in some cases.
@gr33dyglutton 4 жыл бұрын
The reason for notching the posts would be if you're putting your posts on the inside of the rim board. It brings the rail out, gaining deck space. Some people prefer to put the posts inside the framing for the cleaner look.
@ArtisanTony 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I have done it many times and it is not necessary and I will show you why :).
@kevinjones340 Жыл бұрын
What angle did you trim the 4x4 at?
@ArtisanTony Жыл бұрын
45 I think but it might have been more shallow. You could do some test angles on a scrap piece to see which angle you like. Thanks!
@kevinjones340 Жыл бұрын
@@ArtisanTony does it really need an angle or is that just for “decor”? I have a small deck that I need to replace the rails and the guy who built the deck cut some corners back in 2007 and I wasn’t here when he did it and he used the footings as the rails also so this is my quick fix to replace the rails that we hate…. Thanks
@ArtisanTony Жыл бұрын
@@kevinjones340 No, you are correct is is only to ease the edge a little so it is personal preference. Sometimes it's better not to if you don't have enough room to run two bolts through.
@tr3vorb438 4 жыл бұрын
Does ‘not‘ notching the posts throw the railing to the outside of the deck?
@ArtisanTony 4 жыл бұрын
expand your mind and design options! break the habits of old and break new ground! the answer is there are a million ways to design handrails and only closed minded people do the same thing over and over again. watch and be freed from your chains :)
@tr3vorb438 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe ‘unfamiliar’ but not necessarily ‘closed minded’ Tony.
@eukaryon 3 жыл бұрын
Nationwide the building code specs 1/2 diameter bolts through the guardrail posts, then fastened to a metal cleat. That plans for max side loading but most deck posts won't ever see that kind of load.
@ArtisanTony 3 жыл бұрын
The building specs load requirements such as 200 lbs lateral load. This rail easily meets gode amd passed inspection.
@eukaryon 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArtisanTony Whatever passes local inspector is good. Our area requires a 2.5x safety factor, so 500 lb lateral load.
@blownbird355 2 жыл бұрын
At minimum I’d through bolt.
@chrisellis8424 2 жыл бұрын
Ok so don't notch my post?
@ArtisanTony 2 жыл бұрын
You don't have to if you lag bolt it with two lag bolts the way we did.
@billlawton8914 3 жыл бұрын
Are these 4x4 posts? Currently redoing my deck.
@ArtisanTony 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! :)
@billlawton8914 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArtisanTony cool, are they pressure treated?
@ArtisanTony 3 жыл бұрын
@@billlawton8914 Yes, they are the kiln dried pressure treated so they may look a little different. I use the kiln dried pressure treated on handrails because the regular pt goes crazy in the sun.
@billlawton8914 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video how you do the hand rails?
@ArtisanTony 3 жыл бұрын
@@billlawton8914 It's the last video of the series kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gsycn6iexMW3fps.html
@titanniki412 3 жыл бұрын
Y not angle lag screws
@ArtisanTony 3 жыл бұрын
never angle lag screws. the heads of lag screws should always fit flat and snug against the item being lagged
@titanniki412 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArtisanTony I'm sorry I used wrong terminology. I meant instead of 12 to 6, y not 5 to 11 or 7 to 1. I guess diagonally. Some say 12 to 6 possibility of splitting or wood twisting. I'm a DIY, so I'm relying on you pros.
@ArtisanTony 3 жыл бұрын
@@titanniki412 splitting is eliminated by predrilling. But I really do not know what you mean. The way I did it is the best way I know other than through bolting which sometimes there is a joist in the way of through bolting.
@titanniki412 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArtisanTony I guess you'll have to see the videos I've watched to understand. I'm not saying you are wrong. I'm just trying to figure out the best way to do it.
@jamiebeith1875 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArtisanTony He is referring to having your bolts not line up vertically with eachother - i.e. having them diagonal to eachother like the 2 dots on the 2 side of a dice.
@phishmusicphan 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think this is to code
@ArtisanTony 2 жыл бұрын
well you are mistaken. It is overkill. Check your span tables. 2" x 10" will span 14'2 at 16"o/c. These are barely spanning half that because i have a midspan beam. I have been building for 40 years and also a certified building inspector. You need to find someone else to troll :) lol and I know you are trolling because you didn't mention what doesn't meet code. You can try again if you want lol
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