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Can Flash CHANGE the META??

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@ForgothFootman
@ForgothFootman 2 ай бұрын
I think Flash plays his old builds because he wants to figure the meta on his own instead of copying others, so he just starts where he left off. He plays ladder to learn, not to win.
@LimitBreakr424
@LimitBreakr424 2 ай бұрын
The worst part of Flash coming back is constantly asking Artosis when Flash will come back just won’t be the same
@uxie6177
@uxie6177 2 ай бұрын
I thought Flash had already been 'back' a while ago? Or does he actually intend to start competing again? I wouldn't really say he's 'back' until he enters an ASL.
@Boxvoko
@Boxvoko 2 ай бұрын
@@uxie6177 HE'S BACK
@dirty_chanterelle
@dirty_chanterelle 2 ай бұрын
@@uxie6177 for now he's supposed to start streaming again in july
@SchemingGoldberg
@SchemingGoldberg 2 ай бұрын
Don't worry, I have a solution for this dilemma. Just keep asking anyways. Don't let the facts get in the way of shitposting. Don't let your dreams be dreams.
@murkethecow
@murkethecow 2 ай бұрын
Disagree. Constantly asking when Flash will be back after he's back will be so much more fun
@scipio764
@scipio764 2 ай бұрын
Artosis has a PhD on Broodwar's meta history.🤯
@sagacity1071
@sagacity1071 2 ай бұрын
But not in how to say dragoon.
@zhuzhong74
@zhuzhong74 2 ай бұрын
I bet every pro player knows as well. They might not be as eloquent but they can’t compete without knowing most of what RT knows.
@cl8804
@cl8804 2 ай бұрын
i swear it's the one thing he's actually knows shit about Dxracer
@rcmunro22
@rcmunro22 2 ай бұрын
@@sagacity1071 "Drag-goon" every time he says it I'm like brother.. it's a Dra-goon.. say it like it would the Cavalry Trooper from the 1700-1800s.
@sihTdaeRtnaCuoY
@sihTdaeRtnaCuoY 2 ай бұрын
Flash is back, and his build is a flashback.
@cl8804
@cl8804 2 ай бұрын
not bad, not bad
@MajkaSrajka
@MajkaSrajka 2 ай бұрын
I don't fully remember the math behind the original ELO (Chess Elo, Elo is a surname of a mathematican that invented it - Arpad Elo), but IIRC every 100 elo means you double your odds. Obviously 1000 elo vs 1000 elo is 50%-50%, and so is 3000 elo vs 3000 elo, but at 3100 vs 3000 you would have 2:1 meaning ~66% win ratio, at 3200 vs 3000 you would have ~3:1 so ~75% win ratio. That means that if flash had 3400 and second best player had 3000, that means he would have to have ~5:1 win ratio (win 5 lose 1), ~83% win ratio, against 2nd world best to keep that elo difference.
@mapro3948
@mapro3948 2 ай бұрын
This interesting comment deserves more likes.
@austinc6973
@austinc6973 2 ай бұрын
Considering flash has a 72% win rate in competitive play 85% is probably right for ladder if you take out drophacks and new accounts.
@djinn_tseng
@djinn_tseng 2 ай бұрын
very well said.
@Tolotoss
@Tolotoss 2 ай бұрын
Following this logic, your conclusion is not quite correct ... if a 3100 vs 3000 had a 2:1 win-ratio and a 3200 vs 3000 also had a 2:1 win-ratio, that would mean that a 3200 vs 2000 has already a 4:1 win ratio, a 3300 vs 3000 a 8:1 and 3400 vs 3000 16:1 win-ratio, which would be about a 94% win ratio... edit: I just looked up an ELO-probability table, and a 400 point ELO-lead is indeed about 91% win-ratio
@MrDNE1000
@MrDNE1000 2 ай бұрын
That only applies in games with perfect information (no fog of war) and no randomness (spawn locations, % to miss up higher elevation, attack order between workers) it's why artosis complains about nexus first builds from protoss on 4 player maps, it's a 1/3 chance you are up ahead(cross spawn) and 2/3 behind. if you are 500 elo behind the opponent and have a ~16.6% of winning on skill alone, risky builds are much more appealing
@jeffoh136
@jeffoh136 2 ай бұрын
I’ve noticed that unlike Flash in the past, if this really is Flash, he doesn’t target fire tanks very well like he used to. He used to redirect tank fire to goons to prevent splash onto his vultures.
@BLooDCoMPleX
@BLooDCoMPleX 2 ай бұрын
He's probably very out of practice during these games.
@anonamos701
@anonamos701 2 ай бұрын
he probably needs to derust
@yungdevi
@yungdevi 2 ай бұрын
It’s not him
@avinotion
@avinotion 2 ай бұрын
Also spacing between tanks in most battles - so many units dying to storms. But his main and natural defenses were top notch.
@zacharymalone9901
@zacharymalone9901 2 ай бұрын
And you also have to remember he probably will never be the micro monster he used to be again because of his hand injury. I mean, he literally has a huge scar on his hand and there were games of him trying to use Mec against Zerg because he doesn't want to use that micro-intensive bio composition.
@sachib
@sachib 2 ай бұрын
I was wondering why these Flash game casts are so important. The simple answer is: when we play, we use builds/meta created by someone, and when Flash plays he sets the meta and solutions itself. That's why it's worth following his progress.
@behold_band
@behold_band 2 ай бұрын
Those early goliaths were huge. Mid game flash lacked those goliaths and I think it hurt him the most not having anything for the speed shuttles.
@TomaszWinnicki
@TomaszWinnicki 2 ай бұрын
I agree, not enough goliaths.
@yongtimlim5038
@yongtimlim5038 2 ай бұрын
14:09 no hesitation when flash smells blood. His intuition is still there. Maybe just needs more reps to get his mechanics at 100%
@samab7891
@samab7891 2 ай бұрын
We want a tonne of flash games. Missed this guy
@Jamesgalc-gs8wu
@Jamesgalc-gs8wu 2 ай бұрын
Saiyankcm has mor3
@uTubeismyTivo
@uTubeismyTivo 2 ай бұрын
24:30 he left those 10 tanks at 9 o'clock there for sooo long after killing the nexus
@detrockcity3
@detrockcity3 2 ай бұрын
yeah that was killing me. he was fighting with scraps that whole time while they sat there not pressuring or defending.
@sihTdaeRtnaCuoY
@sihTdaeRtnaCuoY 2 ай бұрын
Imagine this is all an elaborate troll from Arty to get revenge on all the guys in the chat trolling him for years. This is actually just a replay from 2017.
@BlackSwanSeeker
@BlackSwanSeeker 2 ай бұрын
It's always fun to watch Flash experiment with different builds. Does anyone else remember when Flash would try 14 cc all the time and get stomped? He switched to barracks -> cc, it worked, and now everyone does it.
@FlymanMS
@FlymanMS 2 ай бұрын
Flash really made Range work in this game, he is everywhere and he's just grinding the opponent.
@Troklo
@Troklo 2 ай бұрын
These Flash games show you that even if you're the best you have to stay consistent or you'll get overtaken
@Gris00
@Gris00 2 ай бұрын
It's awesome considering how BW hasn't gotten a single patch/rebalance patch since the 90's/early 2000's but the meta and builds still change and new ones are made. SC2 could learn from this
@bigmikeobama5314
@bigmikeobama5314 2 ай бұрын
except for remastered, which patched the valkyrie glitch and the spider mine glitch. it caused valks to not fire if you had 5 or 6 of them or more. and caused spider mines not to activate if you planted too many
@Gris00
@Gris00 2 ай бұрын
@bigmikeobama5314 That is true, however most of the core is still left in intact. Thank you for the extra clarification though))
@lifenote1943
@lifenote1943 2 ай бұрын
@@Gris00 NAH, let's just completely change the fucking cyclone for no reason HAHAHAH!!!!
@jeffreyormsby937
@jeffreyormsby937 2 ай бұрын
While true, ladder matches have to be taken with a grain of salt. In a tournament, the goal of each player is to win. On the ladder, the goal could be practice, it could be to collect data on how an opponent responds to a particular strategy, etc., and there's an incentive to not give away any of your secrets even if that results in a loss.
@andrerossel8394
@andrerossel8394 2 ай бұрын
Wisdom on this game. Flash turrets and mines were super annoying. Range defensive storms killed more of flash army than all his engages.
@Picaroon9
@Picaroon9 2 ай бұрын
This build doesn't seem like it has any viability against a better Protoss. Snow would probably still have his shuttle and 7 or 8 goons at the end of the first engagement and Flash would have to remass and probably still can't take his 3rd, meanwhile Snow is on 5 bases and 10+ gates.
@Mancubus45
@Mancubus45 2 ай бұрын
I feel like Snow could have trolled and killed him with scouts this game.
@Capris9x
@Capris9x 2 ай бұрын
I normally don't watch mirror matchups, but now I'm craving Light vs Flash.
@FlymanMS
@FlymanMS 2 ай бұрын
Falcon Palladin has a good one between them iirc, the wrait-siege-vulture exchange for 20 min or so.
@GeneralFatman27
@GeneralFatman27 2 ай бұрын
@@FlymanMS Now if only Falcon Paladin was a halfway decent caster.
@eulogp9888
@eulogp9888 2 ай бұрын
@@GeneralFatman27 oh brother, not this snobbery again.
@FlymanMS
@FlymanMS 2 ай бұрын
@@GeneralFatman27 he is a good caster, considering he wasn't doing it professionally for the most of his life like RT and isn't a professional SC player. If you don't like his style just don't watch it. Flaunting your snobbish view in comments doesn't do you any good.
@GeneralFatman27
@GeneralFatman27 2 ай бұрын
@@FlymanMSMissing important things because you're staring at an overlord and doing a dumb voice for it isn't a "style" but cope if you must.
@novitrix9671
@novitrix9671 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate the humble 'limit testing' of Flash for his preferred methods over the standard conventions!
@ertert4tetert
@ertert4tetert 2 ай бұрын
Flash ran out of gas at the end. His only two bases were mineral-only, and his only gas income was from depleted refineries.
@sirris4330
@sirris4330 2 ай бұрын
I’m fine with your channel being the story of flash getting back in shape personally 😁
@robertonarheim5527
@robertonarheim5527 2 ай бұрын
We need more of these Arty. Love seeing the GOAT play with the best casting ever.
@youuuuuuuuuuutube
@youuuuuuuuuuutube 2 ай бұрын
Extremely intelligent analysis, learning about the meta and stuff. Most commentators (including GSL :/) would just describe what we're seeing on the screen and nothing else, like "he moved his tanks, oh he lost 2 tanks, there's a drop, he killed 10 workers ..., oh he's making a new base, oh he lost the fight ... look at the supply! ... and he GGs!!" without any explanation of why, if the timing is good/bad, if it's the correct strategy etc.
@djinn_tseng
@djinn_tseng 2 ай бұрын
yeah the play by plays get old quick. we can clearly see what they’re doing. that’s why i love artosis/tasteless and other casters that analyze the games that are being played.
@chloesmith4065
@chloesmith4065 2 ай бұрын
You can tell Artosis really studies this stuff, best high level casting I've ever seen.
@OOCMonster
@OOCMonster Ай бұрын
The thing I like about Flash is how relentless he is about keeping his economy developed. Bases built constantly. Always topping up lost SCVs. Retaking lost locations long before they're secure because he sees that the forces are deployed elsewhere.
@AmericanTough
@AmericanTough 2 ай бұрын
10:09 Wow… Did Artosis finally admit T can’t sit on 3 base v 5 against P.. ?! Someone remember this date!! 😂😂
@rcmunro22
@rcmunro22 2 ай бұрын
"Drag-goon" it hurts my soul every time I hear Artosis say it this way, brother it's "Dra-goon" like the Cavalry Trooper of 17th & 18th Century Warfare.
@dirty_chanterelle
@dirty_chanterelle 2 ай бұрын
wait, so did flash get to top-5 in the ladder with 2017 strats?? sigh, i guess we're gonna have to keep watching FlashtosisCasts in order to find out...
@rockeazymatt
@rockeazymatt 2 ай бұрын
Loved hearing your meta analysis RT. Keep up the good work!
@HectorLAN
@HectorLAN 2 ай бұрын
Flash: *trying hard to make upgrade Terran work* Everyone: "Flash probably could have played this better" RT: "I GOT CHILLS RIGHT NOW!" @7:20
@sleepypanda2723
@sleepypanda2723 2 ай бұрын
This was an amazing watch, the back and forth was so intense, any time Range seemed to have an advantage (which he created quite a lot for himself throughout the game) Flash would always punish the weaker side. Like when those goons were sent to clear the top left base and Flash counter attacked, his units moved incredibly swiftly to execute.
@nicksterba
@nicksterba 2 ай бұрын
FLASH IS BACK!!!
@no1xtz765
@no1xtz765 2 ай бұрын
Flashback for short 😊
@yungdevi
@yungdevi 2 ай бұрын
It’s not him
@movhi9360
@movhi9360 2 ай бұрын
@@yungdevi Its him confirmed
@michaelbird9148
@michaelbird9148 2 ай бұрын
Good that Arty is getting chills considering the heat wave on the island! Interesting to see how Flash adjusted to being back. Hoping he helps it be dynamic without being inevitable.
@Az0rau
@Az0rau 2 ай бұрын
Man I gotta say after CNSL and now this, I really am enjoying Motive's games.
@sirris4330
@sirris4330 2 ай бұрын
This wasn’t motive though
@rockdrigo9326
@rockdrigo9326 2 ай бұрын
@@sirris4330he is, read the description
@chloesmith4065
@chloesmith4065 2 ай бұрын
Range is motive lol
@basimaziz
@basimaziz 2 ай бұрын
Man, WHAT a game... Great aggression from Flash.
@michaelcallisto
@michaelcallisto 2 ай бұрын
Flash would have won that.
@Gris00
@Gris00 2 ай бұрын
Flash needs to flash the Flash of old
@user-hf8dc8xy1o
@user-hf8dc8xy1o 2 ай бұрын
Thx for spoiling...
@albert4860
@albert4860 2 ай бұрын
@@user-hf8dc8xy1o Pro-tip: don't scroll down until you've watched the video. Do you also seek out movie reviews before watching the movie then complain that the review spoiled the movie?
@thedchen
@thedchen 2 ай бұрын
@@albert4860mobile users
@ThaatEpicKitten
@ThaatEpicKitten 2 ай бұрын
@@albert4860what he’s referring to is on mobile, the top comment automatically displays on the video before you see it. That’s what the “spoiler blocker” comments are for.
@albert4860
@albert4860 2 ай бұрын
3:45 I'm glad Artosis is admitting this. I see him get so mad when people suggest it might of been a mind game when a ladder player is not following a 100% optimized build.
@chloesmith4065
@chloesmith4065 2 ай бұрын
It's easier to say when casting compared to playing and getting screwed by it lol
@Icthi
@Icthi 2 ай бұрын
Yessss dude. This is such an exciting time for Brood War. Please continue to nerd out for us as Flash gets back in shape and has his say about the current meta. GOOOoODDdDdD YESSsSsS.
@diocletian607
@diocletian607 2 ай бұрын
The Artosis cackle at the Flash MMR power level. Flash has returned to take revenge for all Terran players wronged on the ladder in recent years.
@MrAndersonmm
@MrAndersonmm Ай бұрын
I'm a few weeks behind and playing catchup - normally I just watch the long ones or the ones that jump out to me but of COURSE you're doing lots of Flash. To this point I'm reminded of the time Flash kind of fell off for a bit, especially against Zerg. He used to rush 14 CC even on 2 player maps and just fail over and over. He was stubborn and suffered numerous losses (circa 2011 maybe? I remember a TvZ on MatchPoint in particular). Eventually he realized he couldn't just 14 CC every game, and he was Flash and his straight macro was enough to not need such an early advantage, and he stomped until the end of KESPA. I'm hoping the same thing happens here and he just accepts P has figured out how to easily/effectively scout and counter upgrade terran.
@AtrumRes
@AtrumRes 2 ай бұрын
The major mistake was leaving almost 50 supply of army on the west base instead of countering.
@sirris4330
@sirris4330 2 ай бұрын
True but I also think him having so few Goliaths for most of the game really hurt him. I know they are less efficient but it let range punish him with shuttles in a lot of spots. Just basing this on other top modern terrans who at least try to keep 3 minimum to counter shuttles
@dj_koen1265
@dj_koen1265 Ай бұрын
that counterattack at 23 was beautiful
@MrLecksy
@MrLecksy 2 ай бұрын
The tragic Terran music @30:00 we all realize we're seeing Flash lose another game.. 🥲
@chloesmith4065
@chloesmith4065 2 ай бұрын
That's Protoss music though
@ChibiRuah
@ChibiRuah 2 ай бұрын
It’s cool to hear GO mention in this. I love the game and know Artosis knows it is a bit cool.
@ManCubuSSC
@ManCubuSSC 2 ай бұрын
Damn this kid Range is very good! How I never heard anything about him before? Update: It's Motive!
@loveboat
@loveboat 2 ай бұрын
Those storms! Didn't even see where they came from half the time.
@undeathghost5627
@undeathghost5627 2 ай бұрын
Read description
@iangallacher6608
@iangallacher6608 2 ай бұрын
Big fan of the post game analysis and recap.
@Marcel-eg9bz
@Marcel-eg9bz 2 ай бұрын
I feel like you got to add more goliaths to counter shuttles, right? Also, I wonder if Terran players have been under-utilizing Depots as a defense / sim city tool. A Depot is like 100 minerals? At 500 Hp, I feel like you could place Depots a little bit more forward to create choke points, forcing zealots together, screwing up AI, and tanking damage. Think of it as a defensive wall structure that also happens to increase your supply. -Someone who played this game 20 years ago and just watches Artosis.
@giogomez85
@giogomez85 2 ай бұрын
PLEASE! MORE GAMES FROM FLASH, I DONT MISS NONE OF THEM, GREAT!
@migonmigon1974
@migonmigon1974 Ай бұрын
Yes, keeping the 1st reaver is the most strategy choice. If protoss lost his reaver and shuttle or heavily damaged in drop, terran will easily push into the 3rd and 4th minerals, even without loss any siege tank.
@goodguycwyzz4768
@goodguycwyzz4768 2 ай бұрын
Flash just needs to watch a couple Artosis streams so he can see what NOT to do and he will back to #1 in no time!
@D3Z3R7
@D3Z3R7 2 ай бұрын
Single zealot drops are so strong, it's beautiful and heartbreaking at the same time. EMPs could have made the difference if they went out a bit earlier.
@TheBryceWade
@TheBryceWade 2 ай бұрын
Someone tell the greatest Terran of all time that you can add in a few Gols into the pushes to protect against zlot bombs? @15:30 he got rolled and lost so many tanks.
@gippygames
@gippygames 2 ай бұрын
Gols are terrible against both zealot and goon. Maybe they pick off a shuttle or two, but then all the zealots would've been dropped earlier and rushed the tanks. Vultures wall off tanks so zealots can't rush them. Gols can't really do that because their pathing will make you pull out your hair.
@TheBryceWade
@TheBryceWade 2 ай бұрын
@@gippygames Scan brings a group of 4 Gols with his pushes to keep zlot shuttles off of the tank lines and ensure that they have to get thinned out by the vultures before they get on the tanks. Having shuttles dropping zlots on your tank lines is unnecessary and ineffective.
@stefanc4520
@stefanc4520 2 ай бұрын
Range impressed me, lots of potential
@InkySquid17
@InkySquid17 2 ай бұрын
One of the best games I've seen in a long time.
@kkahakusan5591
@kkahakusan5591 2 ай бұрын
Best of luck to flash! Looking forward to seeing all his games (:
@soju69jinro
@soju69jinro 2 ай бұрын
i love how in SCBW you can have meta changes without patches or changes to the game directly.
@davidorawe3931
@davidorawe3931 2 ай бұрын
You can make a whole channel for casting Flash replays if you want.
@Yamulo
@Yamulo 2 ай бұрын
Pretty impressed with Range too tbh. He definitely had a very good position the entire game but he didn’t make the typical Protoss bungle. Very interested to see flash’s evolution too. Just a matter of time
@itanocircus2077
@itanocircus2077 2 ай бұрын
If you ever wonder why less crisp or inexperienced players can scare an expert, but intermediate players rarely do, listen to the point starting at 3:28. Optimizing inefficiencies for mental pressure is part of the metagame when top players match one another. For another example, consider the card game Magic: the Gathering in Limited. A newbie to MtG has little concept of what open Mana means or sequencing can represent in a Limited environment. The proper play against them is to run out your hand and beat them down with card quality - intermediate players have a grasp on fundamentals, so they never struggle to do this. Yet you will see strong players get "too cute" in this same space against the same opponent. They won't lose, but the game won't feel as clinical. Why? It's common for experts and experts-to-be to bluff blowout interaction against one another. Maneuvering around all of this and playing odds tips percentages in their favor in ways that are difficult to see on the board. The newbie cannot see the inefficiencies in their own play or the possibility that represents... and part of becoming an expert is rediscovering that possibility space and exploiting it against opponents. It's called "good representation". It's why poker was revolutionized when TV started showing only the action hands and giving the viewers each hand's % to win. Once the newbie knows about the invisible, the game gains depth. All this to say Artosis is hitting a great point here most will skip over because "muh excuses for Terran iz hard". Speaking of metagame, glad we're out of the "lightfury" Twitch stream meta. That's a relief. Now to do something about Nintendo character fanfics.
@johndoe-rq1pu
@johndoe-rq1pu 2 ай бұрын
So if flash had 3400 elo and the next best player had 3000, flash would be expected to win 99.4% of games against the second best player. A 200 point rating difference would be close to flash’s career win percentage against the field. The difference between him and the second best player should be somewhat bit slimmer than that. Maybe there are some differences in the specific elo implementation for BW, but it should be in the ball park.
@sirris4330
@sirris4330 2 ай бұрын
You’re making assumptions out of nothing, where the hell are you pulling 99.4 percent? Madness
@johndoe-rq1pu
@johndoe-rq1pu 2 ай бұрын
@@sirris4330 I am making assumptions, but not out of nothing. Elo changes depend only on the difference in ratings when the game was played and whether a game was a win or loss (or draw if possible). So elo difference maps pretty nicely to expected win percentage. You can run the process in reverse: "These players have a 400 rating difference, what must their record have been to reach this point, starting from the last point when they were equal rating." So if Flash and Jaedong were were both rated 3000 and they played 1000 games in a row and flash won 900 and lost 100 then flash would be rated 3191 and Jaedong would be rated 2809. Achieving large elo gaps requires insane win percentages. At some point you're losing a lot of rating if you lose and gaining almost none if you win.
@siosilvar
@siosilvar 2 ай бұрын
The expected win rate for a 400 Elo difference is 90.9% in the original math and 87.2% based on the actual observed results from chess matches. 1/(1 + 10^(difference/480).
@viTaDBaD
@viTaDBaD 2 ай бұрын
I don't think Scan knows the math. Scans ELO guess was probably just to show just how big of a difference*** in skill "before military Flash had" and his next best opponent. Guy beat the main quest and so he went random in ASL.
@covetousrat
@covetousrat 2 ай бұрын
Professor Artosis = Starcraft
@pierQRzt180
@pierQRzt180 2 ай бұрын
this video is totally valuable already for the MMR speculation.
@TheRealSykx
@TheRealSykx 2 ай бұрын
More two casts in one day! I've got a taste and can't give it up! GIMME MY FIX ARTOSIS
@SpankeyMcSpank
@SpankeyMcSpank 2 ай бұрын
After the Academy built, the SCV mineral danced forever. Does Flash scream at the dancing SCV too? lol
@ETBrooD
@ETBrooD 2 ай бұрын
Upgrade terran is 100% gonna make a comeback with Flash. He knows how to do it correctly, so he'll make it work and dominate with it. Every active terran is several levels below peak Flash.
@chloesmith4065
@chloesmith4065 2 ай бұрын
It seems very suboptimal in today's world
@dollarsex9020
@dollarsex9020 2 ай бұрын
range looks really strong. Crazy storms and zlot bombs
@ryanrebs5830
@ryanrebs5830 2 ай бұрын
If anyone knows , or if Arty reads this. What was the game where flash swaps gas for minerals to rush across the map? I wanted to rewatch that one
@jamesgraessle7295
@jamesgraessle7295 2 ай бұрын
9:42 slightly different read on this than RT. i get that range kinda semi-bungled that attack, but flash is spinnin 2-1, range has no army on the map, and flash's third is landing, and range's 5th isn't started. flash looks... fine actually! 10:30 jesus christ, that's a lot of turrets lol 11:52 i'm kinda starting to actually prefer flash' position. it was impressive that he got an equalish position after a slight mistake, while going fast 2/1. but now, this fourth is pretty much gonna land, and i think it's protoss's move. carriers will take a long time and end up against 3/2 which isn't wonderful, so i think protoss' best idea here might be to go arbiter, and take a ton of bases and try to hit flash whenever he moves, but flash is notoriously difficult to punish! Still staying on storm and speed shuttles against 4 base upgrade terran doesn't seem like it should work, i feel like you'll eventually get tank moded to death. 14:24 "becoming problematic for range" honestly he looks pretty dead rofl Flash has so much, his upgrades are so good, i'm a lot more optomistic about this game for flash than RT is, we'll see! 17:11 so the armies have traded, flash is taking a 5th, which.. can't be good for protoss, but i DO like that he's spinning 2 forges. hopeless to defend just mass tank mode tanks off of 4 gas if you don't get those. 18:52 anOTHER base for flash, wow, he's being very thorough here, but this is gonna be 5 gas. Non-carrier protoss should have trouble with 5 gas terran, that's going to be so many tanks. 20:15 yeah, flash is maxing and throwing away vultures to get bigger on tanks, this actually looks very very good to me. we'll see how range can hold off what i assume will be a tank-mode attack within about 5 minutes. 22:40 made it interesting! but i think flash''s army kills bases faster than range's here. this looks like flash's win to me. 26:02 ok these storms are kind of nuts... wow. getting very scrappy, supplies low, bases mining down, could be a weird one! AND FLASH RUNS OUT! wow, so i had a different take on the game than RT, storms looked insane to me and got range back into it when flash looked pretty good! thanks RT!
@MrKULVIS
@MrKULVIS 2 ай бұрын
I think Artosis would have Flash's babies if he could
@JonasStenmarkMT
@JonasStenmarkMT 2 ай бұрын
I see a flash game, I hit play - Doesn't matter if it's during work hour or not!
@Jamesgalc-gs8wu
@Jamesgalc-gs8wu 2 ай бұрын
I'm yelling your boss😂
@JonasStenmarkMT
@JonasStenmarkMT 2 ай бұрын
@@Jamesgalc-gs8wu I'm my own boss! :D
@Jamesgalc-gs8wu
@Jamesgalc-gs8wu 2 ай бұрын
@@JonasStenmarkMT put yourself on probation 😂😂😂
@JonasStenmarkMT
@JonasStenmarkMT 2 ай бұрын
@@Jamesgalc-gs8wu :D
@TheFelineEffect
@TheFelineEffect 2 ай бұрын
Its like watching a time traveler from the past playing the current meta. I hope he plays on next ASL
@jonathaniszorro
@jonathaniszorro 2 ай бұрын
Flash must have left the door open when he came back, because there's a cold draft and 7:20!!!!
@2slick4u.
@2slick4u. 2 ай бұрын
thumbed up at 7:00 ! CASTER HYPE LETS GOO
@chocolatedumdum2
@chocolatedumdum2 2 ай бұрын
Guys we are watching a magician work
@chloesmith4065
@chloesmith4065 2 ай бұрын
"and for my next trick... I'll make all my siege tanks disappear 🫥"
@reishiki8682
@reishiki8682 2 ай бұрын
I have this feeling a heavier vulture count pre-Reaver moveout should stymie the slowdown attempt since this'll keep P too occupied to attempt the Reaver contain/delay due to the Gateway count still being low at that point.
@JO-zf4ky
@JO-zf4ky 2 ай бұрын
Perhaps. But then you cede map control when they roll out with reavers. And you have to defend the main vs reavers. You would have to do damage with the vultures via raid.
@kurukq
@kurukq 2 ай бұрын
Man those storms were incredible!
@sunscream8437
@sunscream8437 2 ай бұрын
Never have enough of Flash. Indulge our hunger
@thrivefitnessboston9996
@thrivefitnessboston9996 2 ай бұрын
So hyped for Flash's return!
@detrockcity3
@detrockcity3 2 ай бұрын
Well, Flash did kill the probes at the 3rd in that first attack...
@junioraltamontent.7582
@junioraltamontent.7582 2 ай бұрын
This is like Jaedong all over again
@dimitartodorow4996
@dimitartodorow4996 2 ай бұрын
Exciting times, flash coming back is huge!
@danielpetrov8955
@danielpetrov8955 2 ай бұрын
Flash the GOAT is back baby. LET'S GO FLASH. Kick some ass
@JuanManuel-ec9ul
@JuanManuel-ec9ul 2 ай бұрын
It's funny when Arty gets excited by flash
@sleeper1855
@sleeper1855 2 ай бұрын
@ArtosisCasts did the maps in 2017 facilitate Terrans taking a 3rd more easily than they do today?
@thatguyzodiac543
@thatguyzodiac543 2 ай бұрын
10:10 The decission to take a forth lmao can some one tell Artosis xD
@redyoshi718
@redyoshi718 2 ай бұрын
Keep the Flash videos coming!
@PixelLuffy
@PixelLuffy 2 ай бұрын
Always down for Flash games
@cbmtrx
@cbmtrx 2 ай бұрын
amazing play. I would have just done a total 180 and gone mass carriers
@mrquickey3731
@mrquickey3731 2 ай бұрын
magnus carlsen of starcraft is back :O
@godlyobject6509
@godlyobject6509 2 ай бұрын
Is Goliath a new unit to Flash? Maybe it wasn't in the game during his time in ASL.
@alexj0101
@alexj0101 2 ай бұрын
The Emperor will change the meta.
@a_lexine
@a_lexine 2 ай бұрын
seeing flash play 2017 builds is honestly really refreshing
@IYPITWL
@IYPITWL 2 ай бұрын
If we look at Magnus Carlsen elo in chess then 3300 is pretty insane, but 3400 might be possible because you can play many more games in a day of starcraft than chess. Still getting elo that high requires an insane amount of dominance for a long period of time.
@Tmr2010
@Tmr2010 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the breakdown
@orbitalstrike
@orbitalstrike 2 ай бұрын
Hey artosis, thanks again for more casts. Youre the best.
@monkeymoo87
@monkeymoo87 2 ай бұрын
Storms were on point this game
@MrBus359
@MrBus359 2 ай бұрын
Hi Artosis. Can you please make sure that when you cast Flash games, the terran music plays. This protoss music puts me to sleep. Much love
@ArtosisCasts
@ArtosisCasts 2 ай бұрын
0 control over this
@MrBus359
@MrBus359 2 ай бұрын
​@@ArtosisCasts Sadge but good to know, thanks
@iogien
@iogien 2 ай бұрын
Okay...lets see Flash one month from now...i think he will get on top of it again...the man was too good...so he will be great again
@cowboyluke4013
@cowboyluke4013 2 ай бұрын
14:30 was the wrong choice shoulda went main
@andreaskallstrom9031
@andreaskallstrom9031 2 ай бұрын
Flash is back!
@barnchips
@barnchips Ай бұрын
I love that sc1 is still going I hope sc1 and sc2 never end best games of all time.
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