ACS Champion TaEnGu vs ASL Champion Rain!

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5 ай бұрын

Rain (P) vs TaEnGu (T) on Apocalypse.
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@rikterandersson3568
@rikterandersson3568 5 ай бұрын
The note about the damaged marines in the bunker is just such a huge thing in my enjoyment of BW and how Artosis plays into it. In so many multiplayer game the small increments at the start are quite irrelevant either due to healing (reaper in sc2) or because pressuring the main base is impossible until late/mid game. But that little interaction with the Marines and the Zealot and the opportunities that appears/disappears due to that little interaction (which in turn I can only appreciate thanks to Artosis great casting and insight) is what keeps me coming back to Broodwar. It truly is a fantastic game and esport is in turn so dependant on having great commentators that reveal the beauty of the games we watch.
@user-bn1ns6xp3i
@user-bn1ns6xp3i 5 ай бұрын
Lol
@YoungGandalf2325
@YoungGandalf2325 5 ай бұрын
Artosis called this game like three different times and even started to give his outro segment at 21:00 but TaEnGu refused to quit.
@osirisra1476
@osirisra1476 5 ай бұрын
fantasy gg timing
@cl8804
@cl8804 5 ай бұрын
that's why he'll never make ASL
@noahbaker-kang5148
@noahbaker-kang5148 5 ай бұрын
⁠@@cl8804He qualified
@skykur
@skykur 5 ай бұрын
Rain showing how he earned his namesake. Those storms were torrential.
@nathanspeidel9195
@nathanspeidel9195 5 ай бұрын
I’ve never seen so many devastating psi storms good lord. Guy stormed like an entire mountain side like 5 times.
@Pico141
@Pico141 5 ай бұрын
13:20 goddamn that mine drag absolutely screwed TaEnGu
@madafaka3587
@madafaka3587 5 ай бұрын
Holyshit, didnt notice at first
@Th0ughtf0rce
@Th0ughtf0rce 5 ай бұрын
Imagine a cinematic of that. A zealot landed in the middle of a Terran formation and everyone was "Aw, fu..."
@bc3f4a
@bc3f4a 5 ай бұрын
oof
@jakubkrchnak5172
@jakubkrchnak5172 5 ай бұрын
That was a mine codenamed " *NUCLEAR MISSILE* "
@anitakokot1468
@anitakokot1468 5 ай бұрын
I was wandering if he will take off mines before move out like: "no, its impossible to just get out and sit on the mines like a newbie", and then it happened. Its so annoing to destroy mines with any unit, the are such small it take hours, everyone thinks there is no time for that, even PROgamer...
@dylaninnes8541
@dylaninnes8541 5 ай бұрын
Love your technical analysis
@sagacity1071
@sagacity1071 5 ай бұрын
We need more korhal tileset maps
@lolmatt9
@lolmatt9 4 ай бұрын
Good on Taengu. Great to hear about a new amateur making it so far.
@DerpHerper
@DerpHerper 5 ай бұрын
To your note about the years it takes to be a pro gamer. How long were JyJ and Rush hanging out in the lower tiers of ASL? How long were we just writing them off? Feels like it's been a life time and just in these past few season are they really considered some of the best.
@ArtosisCasts
@ArtosisCasts 5 ай бұрын
Rush was on CJ Entus and JyJ was on SKT1 back in 2008ish.
@cameronmorris7080
@cameronmorris7080 5 ай бұрын
ya looking at the list I think Zelot and Taengu are the only ones who were not on teams during the Kespa era
@Zraknul
@Zraknul 5 ай бұрын
Even then Zelot shows up in the post-kespa tournaments end of 2012 filled with the non-SC2 kespa players. It's crazy.
@giovannigaronetti3981
@giovannigaronetti3981 5 ай бұрын
Great commentary, as always
@tjsanderscu
@tjsanderscu 5 ай бұрын
Great game - thanks for covering the up-and-comers!
@Pico141
@Pico141 5 ай бұрын
Are we going to see some ASL qualifier games Arty?
@ArtosisCasts
@ArtosisCasts 5 ай бұрын
I don’t think so, but I’m checking
@MondSemmel
@MondSemmel 5 ай бұрын
@@ArtosisCasts The NamKraft KZfaq channel managed to cast some of these ASL 17 qualifier matches (casting over Korean commentary), but obviously I don't know about the permission situation.
@FlymanMS
@FlymanMS 5 ай бұрын
That Goliath rush in the end was very surprising.
@0j00n
@0j00n 5 ай бұрын
skill gap between asl pro vs right outside it asl qualifer is insane
@c0mputar
@c0mputar 5 ай бұрын
The mines eating Rain’s rally at 17:20 bought Taengu another 4min but Rain’s macro was too strong. The mine drag and storms at 13:20 was truly the beginning of the end though. One can’t be losing so many tanks like that when Protoss dominating macro.
@jrichardalbert
@jrichardalbert 5 ай бұрын
Loving the BW ladder content! Keep up the great work
@Tann114
@Tann114 5 ай бұрын
I am too into this for only 1 a day, I've started watching the oldest one too.
@zekehartley326
@zekehartley326 5 ай бұрын
After rain flew those five shuttles in the terans base at the end of the end the game. he shouldve went mass dt and killed the terrans army that wouldve been hilarious.
@Stokkeland23
@Stokkeland23 5 ай бұрын
This game looked like Artosis vs Rain. Sit and turtle until you lose on resources 😅
@adriangenov586
@adriangenov586 5 ай бұрын
Artosis keep it up bro
@paulsanchez5030
@paulsanchez5030 5 ай бұрын
RT this game graphics look different, like sharper and a bit less saturated, I dig it. the hues feel the same as usual, but better in a way that is hard to explain. maybe is less bright too. now that I read all that I wrote up here, maybe its the contrast, that would explain it all wouldn't it. I like this contrast!
@rhorains5626
@rhorains5626 5 ай бұрын
WHY TOSS GETS TO OWN THE ENTIRE MAP?? THEY WOULD EXPAND TO ANOTHER MAP IF THEY COULD
@abstractdaddy1384
@abstractdaddy1384 5 ай бұрын
They have a more mobile army. The more mobile your army, the easier it is to take expansions. This is offset by the less mobile army being more cost efficient.
@ripperthecrooks6428
@ripperthecrooks6428 5 ай бұрын
Protoss are just op
@TerranEarth
@TerranEarth 4 ай бұрын
Rain's technical execution seems really sharp. Guy is patient and not flashy, but when he wants to lay down god like storms in a few seconds with templars in a shuttle he can do it pretty consistently. Bisu's more my cup of tea though as he's more take the battle to you type of player.
@Girthbrooks715
@Girthbrooks715 5 ай бұрын
Why don’t more Terran players use EMP against Protoss? It seems like a waste of science vessels to not wipe shields off a big clump of dragoons
@ArtosisCasts
@ArtosisCasts 5 ай бұрын
It’s not so easy to hit them without losing it. Like let’s say goons are attacking… by the time you hit emp on them, they might have already lost their shields to the first tank volley. Oftentimes dmatrix is more useful. Emp is good though, just situational.
@Azizi1163
@Azizi1163 5 ай бұрын
They usually only use emp on arbiters.
@EebstertheGreat
@EebstertheGreat 5 ай бұрын
Yeah to back up what Artosis said, Taengu did get EMP here, and he did intend to use it if saw a good chance. Typically that means spotting an arbiter or a few templar before they cast their spells, but it can also mean softening up an army before the battle starts. But those opportunities just don't always present themselves. Using EMP in the middle of a fight doesn't do much, so D Matrix is typically better in those cases.
@junioraltamontent.7582
@junioraltamontent.7582 5 ай бұрын
It's casting is wonky AF and there's a bad lag to it that makes hitting moving targets difficult especially if youre trying to get the vessel in and out without being killed.
@EebstertheGreat
@EebstertheGreat 5 ай бұрын
@@junioraltamontent.7582 EMP doesn't lag. The problem is with Recall, which is just a weird spell that spends energy way before the effect really happens.
@peterquill117
@peterquill117 5 ай бұрын
I have a noob question, why terran doesn't use valkyries to counter shuttle reaver?
@Ziegfried82
@Ziegfried82 5 ай бұрын
Valks are more for killing large groups of air units, not a couple shuttles. They are expensive to build too and take 3 supply each. Wraiths are far better for killing shuttles.
@ArtosisCasts
@ArtosisCasts 5 ай бұрын
It’s been tried. It kind of works a little. Gols and turrets are easier and more flexible.
@KeeperOTG
@KeeperOTG 4 ай бұрын
Goliaths just a more versitile unit, more reliable and they come from factories. Valks are used to clear mass air. Not great for picking off shuttles.
@PointOneX
@PointOneX 5 ай бұрын
Looks like the first big storm was mostly a mine, not storm. He seiged on top of his own mines. Shuttle dropped a zealot. 6-7 units insta blow up.
@tonyc2909
@tonyc2909 5 ай бұрын
Can someone explain why T doesn't use EMP against P?
@junioraltamontent.7582
@junioraltamontent.7582 5 ай бұрын
They do sometimes but it's less common than Defense Matrix as that doesn't need researching and isn't as micro intensive. EMP will usually be researched to zap High Templar's or Arbiters but offensively EMPing shields isn't usually efficient due to its high APM/micro requirement and relatively small splash so it remains more of a situational use for the spell than an intentional build strategy.
@iqless7313
@iqless7313 5 ай бұрын
I'm amazed how Rain gave no fucks about sending a ton of units (esp shuttles) to meat grinders haha. Esp in the last 10 minutes it looked like none of the shuttles really did anything and it cost him a massive amount of resources but his macro was soooo far ahead that he could just keep doing it.
@abstractdaddy1384
@abstractdaddy1384 5 ай бұрын
That's basically the protoss way of winning in PvT.
@ArtosisCasts
@ArtosisCasts 5 ай бұрын
Once you hit a critical mass of economy you can just win by constantly reducing tank counts at almost any cost.
@sleeper1855
@sleeper1855 5 ай бұрын
Crazy storms by rain
@RyanJ14115
@RyanJ14115 5 ай бұрын
He doesnt lay enough mines
@TagaBearClaw
@TagaBearClaw 4 ай бұрын
ggs
@assault410
@assault410 5 ай бұрын
arty can we get a tvt, its been a while i think we are due for one
@TRYCLOPS1
@TRYCLOPS1 5 ай бұрын
Right!!!!
@perfectman3077
@perfectman3077 5 ай бұрын
Yes, I wouldn't mind some more mirror matchups. Just not ZvZ.
@enjolraslechimiste
@enjolraslechimiste 5 ай бұрын
was this bm on Tangy's part?
@gasstationpeanuts1814
@gasstationpeanuts1814 5 ай бұрын
ehh a tiny bit, but Tang usually gg's later in general, so this is nothing out of the ordinary.
@synchrotgrd
@synchrotgrd 5 ай бұрын
Rain played thos flawlessly gg
@smagnusf7011
@smagnusf7011 5 ай бұрын
Thank you artosis for the video, Needed from the swamp is. Jk, just bored.
@ant0_
@ant0_ 4 ай бұрын
i just played taenggu on ladder and he smashed my face in
@nathanspeidel9195
@nathanspeidel9195 5 ай бұрын
Wait, didn’t you say a few days ago that BISU what is the best Protoss player ever? Now you’re saying Rain is the greatest? Is “greatest“ different from “best ever“? Or what’s going on here? You’re screwing up my rankings chart.
@abstractdaddy1384
@abstractdaddy1384 5 ай бұрын
Bisu is generally considered the protoss who achieved the most in the sport. Rain (in artosis's opinion) is the most skilled/talented protoss. Rain COULD achieve so much more in brood war but just doesn't care. As a side note I agree with artosis. Rain is the scariest protoss I've ever seen. He's on another level. Calling him "The Flash of protoss" just based on skill, knowledge, and instinct actually makes a lot of sense.
@ArtosisCasts
@ArtosisCasts 5 ай бұрын
Yes 100%
@ArtosisCasts
@ArtosisCasts 5 ай бұрын
The guy abstractdaddy said it perfectly
@lateralus5925
@lateralus5925 5 ай бұрын
pengu?
@joelb1299
@joelb1299 5 ай бұрын
Super easy Terran. Not on the same level as Rain.
@Spheronic
@Spheronic 4 ай бұрын
We already know taengu is better than artosis at terran. How? Because he made three bases! XD
@jrodtopo
@jrodtopo 5 ай бұрын
One more year of training, and he’ll learn the correct gg timing.
@ManAtPogo
@ManAtPogo 5 ай бұрын
3rd first :D
@Maniac_0470_
@Maniac_0470_ 5 ай бұрын
first like and first comment!
@dontcrydoomer4787
@dontcrydoomer4787 5 ай бұрын
BROODWAR FOREVER
@Kaijumations1954
@Kaijumations1954 5 ай бұрын
First
@cl8804
@cl8804 5 ай бұрын
taengu WASHD
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