Revisiting old podacsts/CTC episodes is a good idea..however would be better if a cpl of mins update can be added. For eg in this Agniveer analysis from Jun 22, one could have added the present status and a small update on how the perception has changed, if it has...or why did it needed to be reposted at this juncture

A solution could be hiring these 4-year tenure agniveers into CRPF, and reduce the CRPF service period to about 30yrs. This would help us in having jawans, who can be more lethal in handling border escalations, and also be efficient in securing assets of an hostile area. CRPF jawans with moderate age and experience are always better than 59 yr old jawans at the border.

We have a CDS at present - General Anil Chauhan since Sept 2022.

The biggest negative about Agniveer program is the permanent commissioning of 25% of the conscripts. The process depends on the recommendation of officers and JCO's who will exploit the condition for sure. Secondly, if corruption barges into the process, just like it does everywhere in India we will have a corrupt Army.

Let the scheme be implemented and its result be discussed. Everyone is in a race just to criticize the scheme. Our army is very disciplined and professional. People who are sitting there have intellect and we must believe them and give them some time. I hope people will not cook news of everything

This scheme should have excluded Navy and airforce because firstly they don't have man power intensive force that we have to worry about pension load and these forces are more technology intensive and mastering these skills takes more time than 4 years as pointed out by Admiral Arun prakash in one article.

If someone wants to know an example of how inept and rigid the army administration and bureaucracy is, a soldier or officer had a hard time getting his leave approved 40 years ago. The problem still exists 40 years later.

I am from Meerut and i am sure that at least in West UP, Haryana, Delhi NCR this will produce a lot more history sheeters (in rural part) because here we have the dream to be like this and an exservicmen is a skilled arm trained person and in younger age he will be even ultra lethal so we are about to produce crime cyborgs

Sir, why not armed forces tieing up with state police and paramilitary forces to select their recruit frm already trained men from army at the end of four years if personnel want his career in administration.

I like the fact that Print has a thumbnail running on top right corner telling us that this was originally recorded in July of the previous year. #RespectForHonestMedia

Excellent initiative by Rahulji who was instrumental in encouraging youth to join Agniveer scheme. As a youth Rahulji has encouraged video gamers, pogo channel promoters, cartoon network, road side pani puri vendors and most importantly of all his dear fans of pidi. Both Rahulji and Vadraji are in prime shape to lead the youth in to the well. And all youth must respectfully follow him without question. All youth must run with Rahulji, cook with Rahulji, bake with Rahulji, play with Rahulji and sleep with Rahulji for a better tomorrow.

Got it sir, its 4 years of service.

A very real and straightforward thing no one is mentioning; Indian army is used by the Govt to reduce unemployment. Its as simple as that. This has been happening from very long. That's why so much commotion about it.

I am not sure if this is an good idea, while it is true that India today spends more on pensions of former soldiers and associated health care etc rather than on running of the armed forces, capital expenditure on arms and research and maintenance it should not end up like the Russian fiasco in Ukraine war where much of the 100,000 troops were conscripts much like the agniveers. Problem is that in some states jobs in armed forces are the only option for a stable jobs etc and unless government provides other employment opportunities in these states there will always be rush for government jobs in services etc and associated heart burns for those who don't make it. Everyone would like to give an social security blanket to their family and most people in the armed forces who put their lives in the service of the nation would only expect that the government look after their family in the unfortunate event of their martyrdom.

India will get healthy and strong youth by Agnipath 👍👍👍

Similar kind of scheme should be adopted for all other govt depts.both state & central and reduce the burden on tax payers.

Reduction in NE insurgency has some saving. But higher manning of nothern border is outcome of aggresive china

Mr Shekhar Gupta your analysis of things is very informative I would like to tell that please upload new videoes not those which were published earlier

Lack of commitment or dedication is not going to be an issue as the selection of 25% will be based on competition (although procedural justice for such competition need to be established first and fast) and considering the voluntary nature of Agniveer skim every one will try to do their best. Less training is also understandable, apart from physical training, most of the basic parts of equipment training can be shifted to simulation based and hence will be more efficient in terms of time (effective use of technology is of paramount importance). But the primary point of concern is how will we ensure to impart adequate skills, which are relevant to civilian life, within the short time period, to the 75% who are not continuing. One way forward can be to conduct several bridge courses (sponsored by govt and pvt organizations) which will enable them to flourish in future, and recruit some of them directly in the work force by the sponsors (based on their skill). Others can take the financial help from govt and use the skill set learned from the bridge course to start small businesses.

The govt has increaced outsouring. That will be Additional outflow and impact budgetary commitment

If ex armed service men get reservation in police recruitment then it is good to have disciplined police officers who had served the nation on borders. This is good,even in past, keeping permanent armies was difficult. Afghan raiders have only 10% professional soldiers, 90% used to be mercenaries who act as force multipliers. so when they go back to Afghanistan after looting India. They go backnto society and work as shepards, farmers or artisians etc. So Afghanistan admin has more surplus of funds to buy cannon and guns from ottomans so in next attack they had even more ferocity.

Every reform comes with a risk and there is no zero risk today in anything. Modern day management is to manae these risks and not to shy away from it

Time will tell how good the scheme is.

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Agniveer was conceptualised on premise that long conventional war is a thing of past. Russia Ukraine conflict has demostrated the despite nuclear rattling conventional war is feasible

Dont give guns to the hands u dont control. The moment u stop feeding those gun controlling hands will go to those who feed them .

This reform so much needed in the policing

No matter how hard I try there is no long-term advantage to such schemes

#bachus_and_chokra_chokris is the highlight of this episode

*Agniveer program is going to help our youth gain valuable skills that will make them more employable!*

Agniveer will provide us with so many eyes and ears in our own society ...... and they will not be jobless after 4 years of training ........Army trains in computer and other manners also

Training cost is higher. Saving on pension will be partailly offset by higher cost of training

Thank you for the information. It sheds some light on the scheme. There are still some concerns, but, maybe the armed forces will manage to reduce it's size and cost and later stabilize to a proper size in due course.

India has strategic ambition on one side extending beyond boundary into IOR and Indo pacific in east and arabian see on vest. With hostility all around we have a different perspective

Why don't you talk about India's missed census? I find it strange that no one in the media is talking about it.

Trust the youths who will thrust the nation

Railway has Salary and pension load of 68 % grew by approx 10 %. Approx 1 lakh cr. Why no question not raised on same

Also despite having rules and regulation recognising Military Training. NSDC is dictating the educational qualification of Agniveer training and on their release from seevice

Sir we do have a CDS

The following questions should be put to the government ( l have given my answers below each question. I do not have access to data and so some of my answers may be inaccurate or incorrect ): 1. Is there an alternative scheme that satisfies both the government and candidates as well as that protects national security interests ? (Yes. My detailed proposal is the answer. ) 2. Will the government save on pension with Agnipath Scheme? (Unlikely. The pay out after four years is Rs 12 lakhs but the total number of candidates laid off is very big. Compare this with the pay out for soldier retiring after 17 years. ) 3. Will the average age of force and maximum age of soldier come down? (Yes.) 3a. After training probationary Agniveers for 4years will laying 75% of them be a wasteful expenditure? (Yes. Especially true in technical trades. ) 3b. If the purpose is to see Agniveers' on job performance and to select and retain the best is two and years of probation not enough? ( Yes. The selected and retained Agniveers after Two and half years can be given intensive training and then given real postings to protect the nation and with out any danger to their life as well. However the PA probationary Agniveers can only buddy up with well trained soldiers / confirmed Agniveers and PAs will do non risk tasks. Or give complete training for PAs with 3 years probation and give them independent tasks. ) 4. Is it right on part of government to treat Agniveers as contract labourers ? (The comparison with SSC short service commission of officers is wrong. SSC officer may continue service if he wishes but 75% Agniveers are compulsorily laid off . It is supply demand equation. Also SSC exists parallel to regular officers recruitment but not Agnipath. After Agnipath the regular soldier recruitment will be stopped.) 4a. Will the probationary Agniveers be risk averse (If they know before that they can't make to the top 25% ) ? (Yes. Where is the motivation to be martyred or to win the battle if he knows he will be laid off in a few days. However my proposal answers this problem with a good solution.) 5. Will the unemployed Agniveers i.e the laid-offs become a national security risk? (Yes. Some of them may become spies of enemy and a few may become criminals. They can't be completely blamed if that happens. Unemployment can force them.) 6. Will the lean force lead to security failure and lead to nation's defeat in a conflict? (Yes. It is not office automation i.e. replacement of clerks with computers. ) 7. Will the Agnipath scheme lead to dismantling of cast based regiment system? If so will it not lead to unwillingness of candidates to give their best ( including being martyred 'Balidan' in a conflict) ? (Yes. But unlikely they will be a slackers. Mixed batallion exists even now and they have made supreme sacrifices for eg. In Siachin and in operation bluestar in golden temple. Also special forces like commandos, paratroopers etc are not cast based. ) 8. Will the lack of manpower be compensated with advanced weapons? ( Cannot happen overnight. First induct advanced weapons and technology and then consider layoff but not the other way. For eg. If 100kms of border are now patrolled with 100 soldiers. Suddenly one day if you use 10 soldiers and monitor with a UAV it is risky until proved. The UAV may malfunction due to various reasons or may be shot down by enemy. So test the technology first in various conditions and then with draw manpower. However this requires drastic increase of defence budget (for capital and salary and not pension) intially which can only be reduced gradually in later years. Reduction of pension burden of all civilians and defence personnel is discussed in my detailed proposal. ) 9. Is it true that considering the high altitude and extreme low temperatures at our borders most of the weapons will not work (and It is only the soldiers' fighting skills and his dedication to the nation that will help to win a future conflict?) (If our technology does not work will the weapons of Chinese and Pakistan not work. Can our foot soldiers match enemy weapons?) 10. Has the government looked at other saving options? When MPs and MLAs are paid life time pension why not laid off Agniveers? (All this is answered in my detailed proposal) 11. How will the laid off Agniveers get jobs ? (Government has some reservations here and there and no concrete scheme. Please see my detailed proposal for the answer to the problem. ) 12. Will all of laid off Agniveers get jobs? If not what will they do ? (No. General Anil purie has said that with Rs . 12 lakhs he can buy a tractor or get his sister married or take up any study himself. None of the choices are appealing to the candidates. It will be waste of government's efforts, time and money if they do that. It is for the nation to make use of his combat skills. Please see my proposal on how he may usefully employed both for his job security and satisfaction and for the national interest.)

Shekhar bhai always great 👍

There should be veteran status for those who complete tour duty and should be given opportunities for paid higher education or civil jobs.

Wonderfull video Sir. As Goes for Modi Govt. Decision making the Less said the better. I see it as if a civilian affairs are being managed. 97 a bill can as well be seen paralleling the understanding of both by the present Govt.

The scheme is good in both ways financially or physically

Only one benefit Young & trained Security Gaurds will be available to various Security Agencies… One of them is SIS owned by Former BJP Rajyasabha M.P Sinha from Bihar

Any clear statistics on how much the government is spending on paying pensions to ex-MLAs and ex-MPs? Any plan to roll out similar scheme for the latter group?

I always watch sekhar gupta on x1.25 playing speed

It seems to be an old version of CTC because we do have a CDS now...Gen Chauhan while you said we don't have one!

Thanks

Some comments, without thinking, suggested that men from Police force to be inducted in the army ranks. I just want to say, who will face the repurcussions because both institutions have different Eco System.....

Thanks, Mr. SG. It was an insightful discourse

Sir only job retired service man gets is a security job

Training load of battalion increaes

Why no agniveer type program for officers ?

Agnipath is revenge of IAS for OROP

A well trained in arms and military techniques will become a very potent militants if they become jobless.

This is a catch 22 situation. The regimental system which forms the backbone of the army will take a hit.It will have disastrous consequences. They should have instead experimented on a small scale. India has to increase the defence budget there is no easy way out considering our immediate hostile neighborhood.

Will impact Schools being run by armed forces

Sir I thought you will go a lil deeper on the finance part,to verify this expenditure on pension & salary part,ARMED forces have almost 2.5L civilian def employees & plz ask your team to do a research on this aspect about what % of this revenue expenditure is consumed by this community!! I have a rough idea but please ask your team to do the research & dedicate an episode on this aspect too,Cat must come out of the bag,the biggest burden is the def civvys not armed forces pers

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I think those who are opposing this scheme should donate on regular basis to overcome the money shortage needed for modernise Army...🙂 sab chup ho jaenge...DIRECT TAX MAT DENA.

Is it the old one that's being recycled? For any reason, if you're unable to do CTC, just inform by a post rather than recycling an old one.

I think govt have done good we have many trained professionals in the society and have man force if another countries attack on us and 25% will be parement and remaining give the reservation for state jobs But from the remaining 75% govt need to give police job so the country and state will be on safe hands

No one including Shekhar ji want to talk about the increasing number of well trained Agniveers year after year who would fail to stay in 1/4th to be retained by Armed Forces, fail to get post 4 year term non-existent and overhyped 2nd job, fail to succeed in any other field or business. How the society will deal with so many well trained, unemployed, frustrated and angry lot? Only indulging into crime will be an attractive door open to them.

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Make sure all the state police have reservations for agniveer , like in USA once you are done with military you can join police. So we have some highly trained offices can handle any tough situation

This is a very good program. What remains to be seen is the quality of candidates. Will they attract the people who can actually bring the tech savvy people that the army desires or those who will not be able to bring that impact. 18 year olds run airport security in Israel and take on combat duties. Nothing new here. The critique related to 4th year competition is again nothing new. I am sure not everyone who is commissioned as a Lt. makes it to a general. They all compete among themselves. Competition is a good thing. So much depends on how this is implemented and executed. I suspect these will be higher quality and highly motivated soldiers.

Modi ji ne kiya hai to sahi hi kiya hoga ❤

We need to have a army fund if we all contribute a small amount - they can use this money to buy weapons, pensions etc

Can you kindly specify on the name of the video that this is a rerun of a previous episode. This practice is kinda dodgy..

Army was the last bastion. It would be called in when civil admin failed. With increased outsourcing it will result in army turning to DC to provide support

Let's be honest, Agniveer Scheme is there to reduce Army's burden from having such a large Infantry force. India needs a large Infantry but this also consumes a lot of its Military budget especially through Pensions as better Healthcare is insuring longer lifespansfir retired Soldiers & their Spouse/dependents. I hope that Indian-Govt adopt a policy through which Agniveer JCOs, NCOs & SSC Officers gets absorbed into:- (1) CAPFs (2) Paramilitary (3) State Police Forces (4) MoD & MHA Bureaucracy (5) State MHA Bureaucracy Yes, this will reduce overall Govt employment but will allow Govt to save a lot of capital resources. Those Anginveers & Officers who are being transferred to CAPFs & Other institutions must be provided:- (1) Pension under NPS (2) CGHS Govt can still retain/employ a lot of talent especially Low & Mid-Level Bureaucracy by continuing with CGHS Scheme for its Employees. Anginveer/SSC Officer must also be absorbed in these services:- (1) IAS (2) IPS (3) IFS

Can i apply for agniveer age - jan 2003

Good one...

Best solution is to move agniveers to other forces including police. This is heavily improve the quality of police as well and reduce corruption. Maybe they need an year of additional training to join police which can be easily provided.

Its high time we created and trained private military organization like Academi, Wagner group, and Al Sadat, under the supervision of NSA, MoHA and MoD consisting, members of remaining 75% agniveers , ex-special forces officers, former spies, and other former military and police officers. This unit can be used for conducting covert operations in foreign soil, curbing insurgency, and to serve Indian interests in multiple geopolitical arenas, like they can aid in providing security to Kashmiri pandits from extremists when we bring them back

Not a good decision this may be reduced expenses but long term cost can be go higher 1stly their job guarantee is not seen so their dedication level in low key the same reason Gorkha are not interested in join the forces highly cost equipment is not in skillful hands so life of this equipment in dark Govt should look into the future of Agniveer and job guarantee should be provided first in Railways as a group D or state police constable or in CAPF GD .

We have CDS sir..

You can't buy a decent car for 12 lakhs these days, what will an agniveer who had forfeited college education has no idea how to run a business will do with this amount other than spend it all away.

Modi govt's reform really? Army was planning/suggesting such a reform for 18+ years now!

There is no perfect solution. US Army also facing similar issues. Universities may accommodate them for Skilled Training to prepare for civilian Life.

Y not d same to officers

The Rest Will Be Absorbed By Private Security Agencies Atleast For Next 3 Batches

17:55 the amount must not be in trillion dollars, maybe trillion rupees?

A cohort of military trained people is good for the country as seen from Singapore, Korea and Israel. They often become leaders and businessmen

Nice ok

Is this Agniveer type of idea has not been implemented anywhere else in the world? Is this a purely Indian idea? I don’t think so. There are countries where military service for young is compulsory.

सर आप वही है न, जिस ने सेना में कू की खबर इंडियन एक्सप्रेस में छपी थी। मुझे याद है , शायद आप को भी याद हो।

You are saying trilion dollars . You can say 1.2 lakh cr or Rs1.2 trillion

It is really sad moment when the most experienced defence journalist of the country says that one lakh crore are only going for pension with such a pain written on his face as if he was going to be billed for it. Dear Guptaji more than 5 times equivalent of this amount has been taken out of India with connivance with People in power by one single business man. Kya karoge paise baccha kar? Sab nigal jayenge ya usi ki tyari ho rahi hai. Will u put value only on machines and not humans? For those ranting about bvr, Arty etc. insurgents se tum bvr ladte ho? Vahan seene pe goli khane wala chahiye…galwan mein lad lete drones se..there soldiers have fought with with bare hands, sticks and stones..soch to lo bolne se pehle..pesion nahi doge, medical nahi doge...canteen services nahi doge, insurance nahi doge...this is what we do to honour people who give up their life for our nation. For my entire childhood and teen life, i roamed like a nomad in the most remote locations of the country as my father was in defence forces, transferred every two-three years, kabhi assam, kabhi in a remote desert location in Rajasthan..please remember, with a faouji thier family members also pay a price.

CTC! How about stopping the pensions and perks of these jokers sitting in the parliament Including the chief 🤡 Keep our Parliament youthful and tech savvy. Not some Old Tapori at 70.

We don’t need enemies. Our own leaders gonna destroy our army. Bad luck of us

Police department across the country should have a tour of duty.

With 80% population under 40 yrs Agnipath is only way forward

"Presently India doesn't have a CDS".... Really?

Trillion Dollars or Rupees?

Why this government is reducing the size of army. Even Pakistan is not reducing

Agniveer should invest their one time payment in Franklin Templeton mutual funds otherwise they will be left with no source of income. Unless they join private armies like Wagner or their Indian variants.

no community is perfect including the army ....not just in India but anywhere in the world.. that is human nature .. u always have both good and bad .. In this case, also we produce both good and bad guys.. no choice, society needs to tackle these things ...

Your last sentence is out of place. New CDS was appointed two months back!!