As INDIA Alliance Boycotts 14 TV Anchors, Madhu Trehan on Media, Modi & Markets I Barkha Dutt

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Barkha Dutt speaks to Veteran Journalist & co-founder of Newslaundary Madhu Trehan in the 26th episode of our podcast 'Inside Out'.
Madhu talks about taking the only interview of the 1993 Mumbai blast convict Yakub Memon while he was in custody. She also speaks on the Babri demolition, Advani era BJP, media in today's landscape, challenges for women journalists, the MeToo movement, her journey from launching Newstrack to India Today Magazine to founding Newslaundry, and later quitting it.
Madhu also recalls the time when one of the interviews that she did, led to Farooq Abdullah- whom she calls a friend- asking Rajiv Gandhi to send her behind bars.
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Chapters-
00:00 Promo
2:23 When Madhu took the only interview of Yakub Memon
6:15 UPA people were not angels, they were hounding journalists
7:20 The Lutyens accusation is true
8:27 Journalists weren't aligned so publicly as they are today
11:48 Learn to write between the lines
16:56 How Madhu started Newstrack
19:35 Inside The Babri Masjid Demolition in Ayodhya
25:13 Has anyone been held to account? For 1984, for 2002?
25:55 When Madhu interviewed terrorists in Kashmir
27:05 Farooq Abdullah told Rajiv Gandhi that I should be arrested
29:51 Under Manmohan Singh's watch, journalists were jailed, harassed
30:22 There are positive changes in Kashmir today
31:37 Modi is the first PM ever to talk about Toilets
33:00 Modi Govt doesn't know how to treat media, journalists
33:53 Media, accessibility, bias and govt ads
36:14 Why Madhu started Newslaundry?
38:44 Why Madhu left Newslaundry
40:41 When a journalist who was a BJP Bhakt reported the Babri demolition without bias
42:44 Are journalists a dying breed?
44:01 One assignment which Madhu could have done differently
46:09 Madhu on the MeToo movement
55:19 Being a woman in journalism
59:12 "My mom told me Arun to padh ke kuch banega tum kyu itna padh rahi ho"
1:01:41 "I don't feel bad, I am just angry at times"
1:06:35 Credits
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@shankariyer8378 8 ай бұрын

Between the lines. People are now greatly educated to know what between the lines is, where a journalist comes from. And if that is the pattern, one gets to know where the journos biases are.

@shayansk9 8 ай бұрын

I don't see how anyone in journalism fails to have a crush on Madhu Trehan, even at 77. What a legend. Speaks eloquently and with such authority, and as someone has mentioned below, on credibility and intregrity she is unparalleled.

@umarbhat7589 8 ай бұрын

I agree. Rather how anyone fails to have crush on Madhu, even at 77 💘

@devsen05 8 ай бұрын

Barkha ji wanted to set the tone in a "particular" way, and then came the shocker from Madhu Trehan ji 😂

@bharatsrivastava3964 8 ай бұрын

Barkha, you took Padma Shree from Govt in 2007-8 and ofcourse it wasn't free, in lieu of it you ran the story in NDTV for hours that Narendra Modi, (the sitting CM of Gujarat at that time and had not FIR filed against him) is going to be arrested. Your contribution to journalism is that u added new journalism infamously called RADIA JOURNALISM. Please desist from taking high moral ground and talking ill for the party you always spewed venom.

@shyamachaitanya446 8 ай бұрын

When Madhu Trehan talked about Nehru started the process of gagging the Media, Barkha Dutt swiftly tried to deflect her attention away at the 29th Minute. That was a key moment.

@karthikashok 8 ай бұрын

Out of the whole interview that’s what you got!

@sujatagarud3162 8 ай бұрын

Barkha is a sycophant of Nehru Gandhi clan.

@milan_bir 8 ай бұрын

Gotta love Madhu, she always makes so much sense.

@haridasshenoy8334 8 ай бұрын

I listened to this because of Madhu. Great journalist. And I am glad that she is no more associated with Newslaundry which is now just a laundry. Her statement that Indira was not educated was stunning.

@rishiraaj.580 8 ай бұрын

There was never a golden time for Media.

@mshantiswaroop 8 ай бұрын

Always LOVE the candour and simplicity of Madhu Trehan in her logic and explanation

@shashiranjan7813 5 ай бұрын

Wish Barkha learns something from Madhu Trehan whose integrity is in stark contrast to her's.

@Nothingpersonal56 8 ай бұрын

Lovely seeing an interview with Madhu Trehan after a long time! She certainly hasn’t changed one bit 👏 hopefully we get to see more of her. I have been Living overseas for the past several decades and I clearly recall anxiously waiting every month for the Newstrack videos from my neighborhood video library!

@rijgurung5638 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for bringing this awesome person. I was always curious where is this lady! I fondly remember collecting the newstrack VHF cassette from my news vendor....it would make half round of the small hill town after my family watched it! Some enterprising people would even feature screen in VDO parlours to attract more clients for the raunchier shows!! Nice nostalgia!!

@abhijitdatta7796 8 ай бұрын

I just have one qq for Madhu , what sekhri and the current news laundry portal is doing is it journalism? That too unbiased? Are any of those clowns can be called journalists?

@ajaypant7406 8 ай бұрын

Madhu Trehan has re-invented herself.She is also stoic and grand saying that many people don't recognize her at the India Today conclave. Barkha Dutt seems so disappointed when Madhu says "the Govt.has also done good things and talks about village kids with school bags,using clean village toilets.....!!!!!! immediately asks what has the Govt. done wrong! Further Madhu enhances her persona taking back her statement on education and educated leaders.Further she does'nt allow Barkha to fire from her shoulder.

@PattabiM 8 ай бұрын

Both didn’t shy away from discussing controversial topics but at the same time didn’t sensationalize them. Thank you for making us listen to an insightful conversation

@chandranimanna8029 8 ай бұрын

Thanks Barkha for bringing in such a fearless & unbiased journalist ; at the same time her evolution - story from a woman to a struggling journalist , her long journey from ' News track ' away till 'Times Of India Magazine '& NewsLaundry' journalism, through your brilliant interview in 'Outside In' podcast. Great for her tips to the current story - writers of the dailes as to how to make a controversial issue to deal with to present in a more credible way, such as - in a more lucid & simplistic communication, remaining far from direct exposition, being economic while dealing a super sensitive issue,; not addressing any political party- involvement , & finally, being unbiased of personal preferences to particular caste, creed or religion while in journalism - spirit & all.

@incubusk8r 8 ай бұрын

Mick Jagger seems to be talking sense. pity we dont have more journalists like her.

@vijaypoola8733 8 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@itsmeshravs 8 ай бұрын

This looks like unbiased views and balanced views. Loved it .. unfortunately we don’t have journalists like this before . Either you have a Arnaub or an Arfa… intelligent people need intelligent journalists ..

@Mandeepsi 8 ай бұрын

U find barka intelligent, remember she is same person who gave live feed of kargil to Pakistan

@bharatsrivastava3964 8 ай бұрын

good to see that you do see virtues in Radia Journalism

@Trollika_Devi 7 ай бұрын

@@MandeepsiKeep repeating the nonsense you heard on the whatsapp group of the IT cell 😂

@abracadabra42 8 ай бұрын

I watched the entire 45min interview with Yakub. Madhu Trehan was almost as aggressive as Arnab would be on his primetime show. Nobody would have called her out if she did the same interview today.

@Ram78979 8 ай бұрын

Thank you Barkha for interesting dialogue with Madu. Only request is to have a English subtitle for non-English part. Not all of your viewers understand fully.

@nitinbelvi552 8 ай бұрын

Wow what a wonderful interview.She is so intelligent than all today’s journalists put togeather.

@LALITMOHANJOSHILONDON 8 ай бұрын

Brilliant interview. Loved it. Am not a fan of yours Barkha but I know there's something in you that makes you a great journalist.

@msrashmi08 7 ай бұрын

Thank you, Madhu Trehan for speaking to a younger woman on Me Too !! How I agree with you on many things & how to take life without grudges n moving on ! Yes, wrong infuriates but dust off n move. Sharing with my girls 😊

@shirleysoans 8 ай бұрын

Completely agree with Madhu on her perpective on the #MeToo movement. Appreciate Madhu's views on challenges she has faced, be it for being a women or otherwise.

@radhadhar1468 8 ай бұрын

There are many cases in the non bjp states which are not reported by people like you leftists so what is good journalism? Without being biased report the news irrespective of political ideology because that is supposed to be personal . There is thin line between profession and politics you people have forgotten that so first practise yourself and then hive lecture

@rishiraaj.580 8 ай бұрын

2 Elite Class Women. India Vs Bharat. 😕

@biswojitdas 8 ай бұрын

There was no social media...so people have got an opportunity to judge the journalist..it is a two way street now

@abhijitghosh5662 8 ай бұрын

When a journalist becomes a celebrity he or she ceases to remain a journalist. Madhu barkha are examples

@samnote2459 8 ай бұрын

its a lovely conversation. But Barkha start, at some point in time, trying to listen to your interviewee..... rather than arguing with her/them. A true interview is about the guest.

@ajayagarwal6779 8 ай бұрын

Good interview, Saw Madhu Trehan for the first time, She comes across as Honest and Intelligent, unlike Barkha who is eloquent but Always comes out as Fake and Dishonest.

@sujatagarud3162 7 ай бұрын

Barkha sounds fake and biased most of the time

@pritesh0117 3 ай бұрын

I haven't kept up with Madhu's journalism career, but based on this interview, it seems being part of the 'elitist' cabal is a challenging 'choice’, because it undermines your credibility and integrity. I also share Madhu's view that there's a lack of in 'field' journalism nowadays. I also reject the notion that people prefer a 'shouting match' between panelists. Absolutely on point! Lastly, I agree that employing subtlety in writing can be a savvy strategy. Some might see it as cautious, but it's actually about trusting your audience to decode your message while still conveying the point. Her practical approach is refreshing, and I appreciate her frankness too! ❤

@naamnei 8 ай бұрын

Superb, Ms Trehan 🙌🏾

@ronniedeee 8 ай бұрын

Historical injustices must be...must need to be corrected. Only that way can a civilization survive. What amazes me is that so many people just dont understand that. Or may be...its something else.

@anirudhasengupta8919 8 ай бұрын

A excellent interview. Please give us more such contents on different topics.

@atlantisjs 8 ай бұрын

Great conversation.

@karthikashok 8 ай бұрын

Salute Madhu Trehan my respect for her has gone up many folds not because of anything because I didn’t know her. Thanks for this @BarkhaDutt

@ridhipokharel7723 8 ай бұрын

Aroon Puri, India Today, is a past shadow of himself in terms his journalism now stands for.He is now on of the chief shycophants of Modi & his govt.

@samnote2459 8 ай бұрын

Finally, a journalist who seems brave enough to hold her own and does her research and the hard work to be a fine journalist: Madhu Trehan, you´re missed... maybe you need to run a school of journalism

@pillalam 8 ай бұрын

Journalists were at some stage aligned....So cute coming from Barkha.

@nitinbelvi552 8 ай бұрын

Thanks Barkha for bringing such luminaries on your show. Wonderful discussion.

@basantidhar1964 8 ай бұрын

Madhu that makes you one of a kind 🎉❤

@basantidhar1964 8 ай бұрын

Oh Barkha you are an anjel,I was dying to hear Madhu I have been her ardent fan Thankyou

@ridhipokharel7723 8 ай бұрын

Madhu did not hesitate to state her age .77.Refreshing to say the least.

@inayat5959 8 ай бұрын

Great seeing Madhu after a long time. Wishing her great health ❤

@basantidhar1964 8 ай бұрын

Barkha your indifferent & dismissive reaction on Sayed Modi's death was heart breaking

@richishkaushik5868 8 ай бұрын

she is trying to fit it

@aminak40 8 ай бұрын

Lovely candid discussion….

@sulagnasivprava69 7 ай бұрын

Amazing 🎉🎉

@sayedhusain9318 8 ай бұрын

This is an example of how old grandmas used to think for what it is taking so long for women to be on par. Educated women like her used to and still think like that how can we blame those who did not get the opportunity to be educated. Really sad to see this Barkha jee.

@vinay2narsipur Ай бұрын

A very balanced view as a journalist. Really admire Madhu who is talking about integrity which is a rarity nowadays. Very candid and transparent views and statements from Madhu. "Me too should not become against all men." Not everybody can say rhis.

@agnosticatheist4093 8 ай бұрын

I am a big fan of yours Madhu Ji ❤

@plungeintotheabyss 7 ай бұрын

Thanks, Barkha for bringing Madhu Trehan.

@MrSaurav1983 8 ай бұрын

The beginning of this talk is like "If aunty had moustaches then, she'd be called uncle"

@SheldonDsouza126 8 ай бұрын

With regards to the #MeToo movement, what Madhu is trying to say is the Media running away with tweets made by so-called accusers without proper investigation by the journalists which results in Defamation. That's what I think Madhu was trying to get at.

@Pennywise.18 8 ай бұрын

Loving the Meltdown

@snehaketkar8571 8 ай бұрын

Good interview...... 👍🏾

@tushartyagi1969 8 ай бұрын

Jawed Akhtar is a thinker 🤣🤣

@salilrajadhyaksha 8 ай бұрын

one of the most self aware and world aware and empathetic individuals.I think the future of journalism lies in authentic research and storytelling and a unique style of reporter-centered investigation

@monojdas-gupta5918 8 ай бұрын

One of the great things going for Madhu is she is her own boss, never have to work for others.That freedom is liberating in her role as journalist.

@abhijitguha494 8 ай бұрын

I didn’t like Madhu Trehan’s interview with Yaqub Memon at all. The reason is she constantly interrupted the interviewee as he attempted to answer her questions. He was not allowed to finish his sentences at all. What is the purpose of interviewing a person if you do not want to listen to his answers.

@parveenbhardwaj2252 8 ай бұрын

There are soo many instances of agreeing to disagree in such elegant manner.. very nice 👍

@rishiraaj.580 8 ай бұрын

Pro__ Vs Anti __ Fight These Days. No One Is Neutral. 😕

@varunsharma7069 8 ай бұрын

How she keeps a straight face when she talks about journalists favouring or getting favoursm has she forgotten radia tapes.

@basantidhar1964 8 ай бұрын

It's true she was even known in kasmir where from I come & I never missed her News track .Her credibility & integrity is unparalleled ❤

@PrabeerGhosh 7 ай бұрын

Why is the audio quality so poor? Why don’t you ask your producers to fix it please?

@artis4985 8 ай бұрын

Madhu Trehan is the sister of Arun Purie owner of India Today group.. Madhu Trehan owns Newslaundary which has leftist and pro Congress stand..

@sanjay3671 8 ай бұрын

Thank Madhu trehan for praising the toilet scheme & the improvement in the rural areas. Such praise is anathema to a lutyens closet communist.

@Bandhu241 8 ай бұрын

Madhu_Ji is as sharp and articulate as someone half her age at 77. Even today, most renowned Indian journalists cannot compare to her. Ideally, she should keep interviewing important people.

@sujatagarud3162 8 ай бұрын

Barkha definitely knows how to provoke people. She is totally poker…asking difficult questions and getting replies the way she wants .

@ragwindersingh1354 8 ай бұрын

Excellent 👏

@ajitjadhav6948 8 ай бұрын

Finally, after a long time, something of quality coming from Barkha. More thanks to Madhu I suppose. She (Madhu) was something else.

@pramodpushkarna3672 8 ай бұрын

Great to see Madhu Trehan

@richishkaushik5868 8 ай бұрын

All I see is two journalists basically conceding in a subtle way what right wing has been saying all this while! When you are in the centre of a storm you don't talk how bad the drought is, you only say f@#% rains!! Barkha is trying the balancing-act out of some pressure even though it might not be external. I don't disregard their opinions that much but it is the points of agenda in the entire discussion which Barkha deliberately chose to while carefully omitting key contextual/contemporary topics(politics) which cry out loud to be discussed - the obvious things like Institutional capture(CEC appointment), Judiciary conduct(threat to the constitution), Pogroms to list the very least. This Trehan character belongs to the elite machiavellian class which the bhakts always talk about, although that is another thing that the guy they support is creating a whole new class of such people which definitely are worse than their predecessors(eg, Smita ANI). POOR BHAKTS I must say!

@vijayalakshmi1948 8 ай бұрын

Madhuji you are the one. The truly intelligent one. Honestly. Super articulation to match.

@27amankohli 8 ай бұрын

Absolutely adore Madhu!!! She is just amazing, and has always been so ahead of her times! loved the chat between both of them !

@atlantisjs 8 ай бұрын

Thanks

@sanjeevshukla6865 8 ай бұрын

What are the acoustics off?

@kuldeepnarayan5113 8 ай бұрын

A great journalist ❤

@getlucky8952 8 ай бұрын

I think the sound quality needs to be improved.

@vedicchant9981 8 ай бұрын

In India journo interview with criminal / terrorist u r great If blindly lashes on Modi then neutral If baselessly support muslims then secular If boycott others then freedom if boycotted then oppression

@vrish2007 8 ай бұрын

Gone are the days, Barkha! Isn't it?

@experiences999 8 ай бұрын

This is a very genuine advice. Please either change your mics or tweak the settings of the current ones. The sound is too loud and unclear. I couldn't understand a lot of points. I tried my phone speakers and earphonea as well. Please take some hints from any other good podcast channels.. Normally, I've seen Shure and Rode mics...

@vishwaskrishna 7 ай бұрын

To the producers, please use a recorder with limiter or use 32 bit recording. The sound is peaking and it is difficult to listen to.

@god__particle__ 8 ай бұрын

Please continue with these brilliant interviews with yesteryear stalwarts. So interesting... its like why did it end?!!

@khoslar1 8 ай бұрын

Madhu should write on journalism...her memoirs ..these women are pioneers in their fields

@Trollika_Devi 7 ай бұрын

I would love to read her memoirs.

@basantidhar1964 8 ай бұрын

I miss her unbiased approach to news She is the best

@KP-py5ih 8 ай бұрын

Where is Madhu. I missed her so much

@MrXperx 7 ай бұрын

Never in a million years I thought I'll be agreeing with these two people.

@learnnow5342 8 ай бұрын

My take away from this symbiosis is... Maduh, " I don't feel bad!" Do what has to be done, do it right and move on to the next thing... awesome. Thanks ladies.

@shobhateji 8 ай бұрын

Good she takes it back.

@Blowgger 8 ай бұрын

Really Madhu! You mention your brother told you dont go for 'PR job' of Rajiv Gandhi because he wanted you to do good journalism! We are interested to know suggestions your brother is giving now, after he faces lectures by his students on secularism, pluralism and keeping spine straight in front of powerful. We see some coincidence between your leaving newslaundry and your brother becoming king of godi media! Newlaundry also able to criticise, expose India Today unfettered since then. Time is very powerful..you see!

@yohhanhendrix 8 ай бұрын

Why is the audio so poor? It cant be the equipment.

@shobhateji 8 ай бұрын

Madhu is right about the audience. They can see through the journalists inner agenda.

@asutosh413 8 ай бұрын

Barkha is on her own trip by trying to make this pitch of humanity on Manipur . In fact a cause that is backed by her , gains disrepute and looses support because she is biased in picking up her issues , which are always about leaders in BJP or against BJP ruled states . With her deafening silence on the post poll violence in Bengal , where women were subjected to all sorts of abuse and her biased coverage of Covid handling only in UP , her professing for an issue taints that issue and it looses credence . She will serve a cause better by working first on her unconscious biases.

@dratiurrahmankhan8974 8 ай бұрын

Nice to see both of u

@yogendrakumar2143 8 ай бұрын

The problem with theses journos are, that they are not able to come to term that now, what they say is/are not taken as gospel which used to be the case. I always wanted to ask a fundamental question to them, when we got freedom, we got divided on the basis of religion. The majority Hindu population did not buy the idea of creating a Hindu country even though there were political voices craving for it and that too when millions of people lost everything during migration. Then it was, rather easy to convince everyone to go for a Hindu country, despite that, we did not. After roughly 50 years later what happened, why general public started supporting Hindu ethos. They don't see any issues with them. Now, in the era of information revolution, people don't need them unless they actually become neutral which is impossible for them, primarily owing to root of ideology that they are from. They never allowed a contradictory view to exist and now they blame other for the same.. What you have set as a trend, would only be followed...

@karanveersingh6706 7 ай бұрын

i just love the respect with which barkha sees her...

@drjagritisingh6569 8 ай бұрын

Whatever congress was doing ,bjp took it to extremism from crowny capitalism ,religion based politics to harassing journalists. Madhu trehan should definitely visit villages in uttar pradesh to see rhe reality of open defecation and government schools in rural and urban settings.

@shankariyer8378 8 ай бұрын

Ms Trehan is spot on on Me too

@arnab2605 8 ай бұрын

She is awesome!

@shobhateji 8 ай бұрын

Who is being targeted in this interview is abundantly clear. Are these two not being allowed to go on merrily. Open and blatant abuses are hurled and are getting away these days.