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Why Do So Many Vietnamese Have The Same Surname ‘Nguyễn’? | Street Interview

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Күн бұрын

Did you know that around 40% of all Vietnamese have Nguyễn as their surname? Given that Nguyễn is not only a popular surname in Vietnam but also, around 38 million people worldwide have it as their surname, there’s a good chance you’ll come across a Nguyễn at some point. So, why is the surname Nguyễn so common and how do people with the same surnames differentiate each other in Vietnam? Our Asian Boss reporter hit the streets of Hanoi to find out.
0:00 -Intro
1:37 - Why is Nguyễn such a popular surname in Vietnam?
3:05 - How do people with the same surnames differentiate each other?
5:04 - Proper pronunciation of Nguyễn
6:24 - Can people with the same surnames marry each other?
8:00 - Do women change their surnames when they get married?
9:24 - Tips for foreigners to distinguish first names from surnames
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@Razear
@Razear 2 жыл бұрын
I went to school with a large Vietnamese population. I think there were dozens of kids that had the surname Nguyen and I remember the teacher going down the list at graduation and it was like a never-ending stream of Nguyens.
@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj
@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj 2 жыл бұрын
Really? How many people were at your school? My high school graduating class had only around 215 people. There was a mixture of people.
@joakimawesome
@joakimawesome 2 жыл бұрын
For real.
@Giftedtib
@Giftedtib Жыл бұрын
Lol
@pithawat1753
@pithawat1753 11 ай бұрын
Hello, another Nguyen here haha
@KFC431
@KFC431 6 ай бұрын
Vu here
@dnguyen787
@dnguyen787 2 жыл бұрын
The most common reason is the people changed their names to Nguyen to avoid execution throughout the long history. In Vietnam people are called by their first names more, even in formal situations, so same surnames is not really a problem. There are no law in Vietnam to forbid people with same last names to marry to each others.
@teofilol2666
@teofilol2666 2 жыл бұрын
Use the word persecution is more appropriate than execution.
@Sprite_525
@Sprite_525 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, are there “laws forbidding people with the same last name to marry” ??
@anhbao2056
@anhbao2056 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sprite_525 yeah, I think Korea had this law before
@thuys__
@thuys__ 2 жыл бұрын
Except one dead man who isn’t buried yet. It’s mysterious why the people are forced to call him by his surname.
@khanhdd85
@khanhdd85 Жыл бұрын
@@thuys__ never heard this song kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gtGpm7V0vZnZfYk.html ? it's the way to show respect for old men
@Maki-00
@Maki-00 2 жыл бұрын
Every Vietnamese person I know has the last name Nguyen. My two friends got married and they had the same last name, Nguyen, so that made things easy! My old boss’s first name was Nguyen!
@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj
@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj 2 жыл бұрын
Many do but there are a lot of other surnames too. For example,my grandma’s last name is Truong(Zhang in Chinese) which is not common as it is more of a Chinese surname.
@superhips135
@superhips135 2 жыл бұрын
The Tran community was here way before LGBTQ was even a thing 😂🤣
@thanGacao
@thanGacao 2 жыл бұрын
They marry each other because it's a nguyen-nguyen situation 😜
@Maki-00
@Maki-00 2 жыл бұрын
@@superhips135 🤣🤣🤣
@AnthonyFarrer_TPG
@AnthonyFarrer_TPG 2 жыл бұрын
It’s scary, gotta make sure they’re not related before you hit it!! Lol
@kennywong4239
@kennywong4239 2 жыл бұрын
It is actually very well documented in Vietnam history books why Nguyen is the most common surname. Firstly, when the Tran dynasty took over the Ly dynasty, the Tran emperor claimed that they have an ancestor with the name Tran Ly. It is forbidden to have any word that sounds the same as the emperor's ancestor, thus, all the Lys were forced to change their surname to Nguyen. The surname Wong in Northern Vietnam is Hoang, but in Southern Vietnam is Huynh, because there was an ancestor of the Nguyen dynasty who goes by the name of Nguyen Hoang, so all the Hoang became Huynh in Southern Vietnam. As the north is not under their control, they continue to retain the surname Hoang. The second wave of increase was after the founding of the Quang Nam kingdom by the Nguyen. They took many lands from the Cham, the Laos and the Cambodians. All those who bowed to the power of the Quang Nam kingdom were given the surname Nguyen. Notably,the last few rulers of Champa before the kingdom was abolished were having the surname Nguyen.
@henrynguyen5436
@henrynguyen5436 2 жыл бұрын
Should be "Tran king", not "Tran emperor".
@photastica
@photastica 2 жыл бұрын
@@henrynguyen5436 It should be Tran emperor, not Tran king.
@two-handpianist4517
@two-handpianist4517 Жыл бұрын
There was the third wave of Nguyen when the French came and colonized us. Back then last name was only given to the nobel, that left many people from lower classes without proper last names. The French came and wanted to do a name record or some sort, and they had trouble doung it because many people were without last name, so they were given choices to choose, and most people went with Nguyen ever since, probably because Nguyen was the latest dynasty in their mind
@two-handpianist4517
@two-handpianist4517 Жыл бұрын
@@h.nguyen4193 this is only true for the trịnh-nguyễn civil war time. From what i remember, Nguyễn Ánh, the first prince in exile of the Nguyen dynasty got real bad blood with the Trinh side (the Trinh killed off his family and friends, and even went as far as to destroy his ancestor's grave and mausoleums). Nguyen Anh ran away, plotted a revenge plan, and when he won the war, he set out on a revenge rage on the Trinh family and anyone who had ties with them. It got so bad that people changed their last name in a faster rate than it had ever been before that. There was a third wave of Nguyen thanked to the French as well. The rest is history
@himejoon8005
@himejoon8005 Жыл бұрын
@@two-handpianist4517 Nguyễn Ánh got bad blood with the Tây Sơn faction, not the Trịnh clan. The Trịnh and Nguyễn clan were enemy, but they still kept relations with each other as they were both de jure under the Revival Lê dynasty. After Nguyễn Ánh/Gia Long established the Nguyễn dynasty, he allowed the descendant of the Lê to moved their clans thái miếu and tombs from Hanoi to Thanh Hoá, the Trịnh's thế miếu are still currently in Thanh Oai district while their tombs and another place of worship for Trịnh lords are also kept in Thanh Hoá. As oppposed to Tây Sơn dynasty's tombs and thái miếu (or ancestor hall, assuming they didn't have one), which were destroyed as revenge.
@lsamoa
@lsamoa 2 жыл бұрын
About 100 years ago in Sweden, people were still using the 'father's first name + -sson/sdotter' system. Almost everyone was called Eriksson / Andersson / Karlssdotter / Olofsdotter etc, with some exceptions. You'd also get family trees with an Erik Olofsson followed by an Olof Eriksson followed by another Erik Olofsson and so on for generations and generations. At that point, the government decided that everyone in the same family should have the same last name, so that practice ended. But there were still way too many Erikssons and such, it was almost impossible to keep a census. So they gave payouts to families that would change to less common last names. People would picked the father's trade name, their village name or something related to plants or geography for example. Now the situation is much more manageable.
@vladtheimpaler3625
@vladtheimpaler3625 2 жыл бұрын
Bor Burison, Odin Borson, Thor Odinson.
@lucia-ux9ui
@lucia-ux9ui 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information!😊
@iheartmykittieslots
@iheartmykittieslots 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@miaouscleaumonocle
@miaouscleaumonocle 2 жыл бұрын
If I am not mistaken, the -son/-dottir system is still used in Iceland...
@lsamoa
@lsamoa 2 жыл бұрын
@@miaouscleaumonocle Indeed!
@buianh1257
@buianh1257 2 жыл бұрын
❤from Vietnam The Nguyen Phuc clan in Hue was the most powerful clan in Vietnam for 400 years. They established the last dynasty in Vietnam, so the Vietnamese changed their surname to resemble the king. I have been watching Asian boss for a long time and this is the 2nd time there is a clip in Vietnam. I was quite surprised because there are quite a lot of North Central coast accents in the video.
@hai4668
@hai4668 2 жыл бұрын
Because it's interwiewed in hanoi
@koimackan1287
@koimackan1287 2 жыл бұрын
We had emperors my dude, not kings [(Quốc) vương, (國)王], but emperors [Hoàng đế, 皇帝]. "Vua" simply means a (male) monarch [= (Vị) Quân chủ, (位)君主] regardless of him being a king (王) or an emperor (帝).
@joelwsy
@joelwsy 2 жыл бұрын
more interviews in the eastern side of Asia most possibly because it satisfies most of their subscribers, it's sure nice to interview us south east asians more often, but the also have to keep their channel up. So it's kinda understandable in a sense to interview Mainland Chinese, Koreans and Japanese as they currently play a heavy role in online culture
@trungduong4040
@trungduong4040 2 жыл бұрын
I guess it's mainly because Ha Noi has many university students from North Central provinces studying there. I personally know some friends of mine from these areas.
@Tsai74rmit
@Tsai74rmit 3 ай бұрын
Its because people were forced to change their surname to Nguyen so they wont get caught or killed just like the older people mentioned in the video
@arla61
@arla61 2 жыл бұрын
I love that the young lady in the pink dress also has the information the previous older gentleman had. Culture and history are still being passed down well. Love the white fuzzy microphone, too.
@zungsle
@zungsle 2 жыл бұрын
She is really well spoken too, sounds like a teacher
@AnhNguyen-di8xp
@AnhNguyen-di8xp 2 жыл бұрын
The explanation about the Nguyễn King is probably the most accurate (as I have read somewhere as well) When a new dynasty took over, they would massacre all descendants of the previous King based on their last name. That's why people have to change their last names to protect themselves. Since Nguyễn King was the last dynasty, there was no more massacre afterward, so people didn't have to change their last names again. Until now, Nguyễn has been multiplied to an incredible number 🤣 And I have the most common last name - the most common first name in Vietnam. At my workplace, there are 3 of us who have the same last name and first name 🙃
@cinnamunbun
@cinnamunbun 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! How do your coworkers differentiate between you all. Since the video says the common way of differentiation is by calling the first name and that's a bit difficult in your case
@zungsle
@zungsle 2 жыл бұрын
@@cinnamunbun It's not a way to differentiate but the way it is. Calling someone by their surname or full name is pretty strange here
@koimackan1287
@koimackan1287 2 жыл бұрын
They were emperors my dude, Vietnam had not kings [(Quốc) vương, (國)王], but emperors [Hoàng đế, 皇帝]. "Vua" simply means a (male) monarch [= (Vị) Quân chủ, (位)君主] regardless of him being a king (王) or an emperor (帝).
@AnhNguyen-di8xp
@AnhNguyen-di8xp 2 жыл бұрын
@@cinnamunbun good question 😄now coworkers need to know our middle names as well, so they can call us by the first name + middle name (or middle name initial) , luckily we all have different middle names. I'm sorry, extra work for you guys, but it's not our fault 😆
@fisherfriendman
@fisherfriendman 2 жыл бұрын
And your whole name is the name of the first Nguyen Emperor Gia Long.
@hungleba3996
@hungleba3996 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this interview in Vietnam! Really liked, how the name and its history was opened up massively, as a Vietnamese person abroad!👌
@lindada1111
@lindada1111 2 жыл бұрын
To me as a foreigner it was also very insightful, hard to get to know such things from the middle of europe :)
@Treesandgrass1030
@Treesandgrass1030 2 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful language… every person sounds like they’re singing
@user-bz5ys2du6r
@user-bz5ys2du6r 2 жыл бұрын
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 중국어도 예쁘게 들리냐?
@user-br9fn2kq9s
@user-br9fn2kq9s 2 жыл бұрын
Yess it really does sound beautiful and unique, hope to learn one day!
@user-if8tg1or7m
@user-if8tg1or7m 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, since our language is tonal
@shaylavuong1094
@shaylavuong1094 2 жыл бұрын
i would love to see more vietnamese content, and maybe conducted in other regions (particularly the south c;) also I don't really get why it was said that in english we call each other by surnames when we only do that towards people who are older, are our superiors, customers, or you're trying to be super polite.
@koimackan1287
@koimackan1287 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, the only case of surname-calling that I'm aware of in modern Vietnamese history is Hồ Chủ tịch [President Hồ (Chí Minh)]
@thanhtuetran
@thanhtuetran 2 жыл бұрын
​@@koimackan1287 some particular individuals beside Hồ Chí Minh in the 20th century were referred to by surnames: Trịnh Công Sơn - nhạc Trịnh (Trịnh Music) Tôn Đức Thắng - Bác Tôn (Uncle Tôn) Ngô Đình Diệm - Ngô Tổng thống (President Ngô)
@kendo-sama9754
@kendo-sama9754 2 жыл бұрын
This was very interesting and insightful for a Vietnamese Australian. More Vietnamese content please :)
@IAmGlutton4Life
@IAmGlutton4Life 2 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered if your Vietnamese there only two places in the world that they migrate to but it comes to English-speaking country USA or Australia
@billharris7235
@billharris7235 2 жыл бұрын
This was interesting! I grew up in Garden Grove, CA, which has a huge Vietnamese population and is next door to Westminster, home of Orange County's Little Saigon. Always wondered why every Vietnamese person I knew had one of about 5 last names. Same thing with Korean names, which are prevalent in my neck of the woods.
@sacausa
@sacausa 2 жыл бұрын
I do my best to avoid driving in little Saigon lol...
@funfnir3646
@funfnir3646 2 жыл бұрын
@@sacausa why?
@sacausa
@sacausa 2 жыл бұрын
@@funfnir3646 lot of bad drivers in the area :)
@tainanking
@tainanking 2 жыл бұрын
Most Asian races tend to have more common surnames than others. Mostly because we didn’t make up a whole bunch of surnames to distinguish ourselves from each other
@zungsle
@zungsle 2 жыл бұрын
Finally some Vietnamese content, it's a part of Asia too u know
@W.i.l.l._Nguyen
@W.i.l.l._Nguyen 2 жыл бұрын
As someone with that surname born and raised in Montreal, Canada, I can confirm that (at least 15 years ago when telephone books where still in used), that surname outranks the common French Canadian name Tremblay in the city of Montreal.
@zaarkhananal7165
@zaarkhananal7165 2 жыл бұрын
This video was very interesting, my mother is a Spanish teacher and has often commented about the commonality of the name Nguyen. Sometimes she'll have a classroom full of Nguyen surnamed only students, lol. I even once asked if they were all related, or originated from the same region because of the oddity of it. In China, Korea and Japan it's more common to use a person last name. Vietnam is actually the first Asian country that I've heard of where first names are more widely used.
@nehcooahnait7827
@nehcooahnait7827 2 жыл бұрын
No in China it is more common to refer somebody by their names in its entirety (this most only applies to Sinitic names tho). It is… cringey and uncomfortable to hear somebody else refer you by given name only. It suggests too much sexual-tension-like intimacy and has some other strange and uncomfortable perceptions regardless what relationship you may have with the person who call you as such, strangers, family members, colleagues, spouses and lovers/sexual partners alike. Obviously between romantic partners such practices can usually get a pass, but still heavily depends on individual preferences. It can still cause odd discomfort even as a third party observer… it is just too mushy, cheesy and cringey. Family members would use nicknames that are often unrelated to the formal names and may prefer to refer their own children by their full names under certain circumstances, such as in front of their children’s peers from school and so on.
@Yayayaeeee
@Yayayaeeee 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah in Vietnam, it’s common to address each other by first name. It’s super cringy and formal to call someone Mr. Nguyen or Mrs. Nguyen.
@rice6497
@rice6497 2 жыл бұрын
@@nehcooahnait7827 people here don't have surnames😳😳😳 we're intimate
@chiisana0sekai
@chiisana0sekai 2 жыл бұрын
We address each other with first name as well here in Malaysia. Most prob because we don't exactly has family names. Son and daughter's are named with their respective first name, followed by the father's name. Except the Malaysian chinese, whom mostly addressed with their surnames like Mr Chen, Mr Low. Unless you're friends and you get to call them by their first name.
@TrungNguyen-xv4xz
@TrungNguyen-xv4xz 2 жыл бұрын
Finally we have ABoss in Vietnam
@sacausa
@sacausa 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@bikerz5102
@bikerz5102 2 жыл бұрын
asian boss asking the right questions 👌
@arnnaul7495
@arnnaul7495 2 жыл бұрын
true true
@qsol0
@qsol0 2 жыл бұрын
How to pronounce it... -Say the word "Penguin" -Break it down into two syllables "Peng Nguyen" -Say only the second syllable "Nguyen"
@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj
@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj 2 жыл бұрын
Hey good method. That is the closest you can get.
@suyci
@suyci 2 жыл бұрын
Soooo.. just say wing like Stewie Griffin would say whing?
@ikhebdieishetnietgoeddathe4057
@ikhebdieishetnietgoeddathe4057 2 жыл бұрын
@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj a thi'NG WE IN'tend to do
@ucchau173
@ucchau173 2 жыл бұрын
Vn is monosyllabic language.., so..
@theploot8230
@theploot8230 Ай бұрын
En gu yen
@tana3875
@tana3875 2 жыл бұрын
My last name is “Ngo” and no one can pronounce it I legit feel anxiety during attendance wondering how the teacher will butcher it this time 💀 Also the video is correct that all people are usually referred to by their first name regardless of kinship. So your teacher wouldn’t be Ms Evans, she’d be Ms Sara or “cô Sara.” For some reason this shocked me in kindergarten and I thought my teacher’s first name was “Black” for half the year.
@thanGacao
@thanGacao 2 жыл бұрын
Even as a Vietnamese (albeit European) I have trouble pronouncing ur last name 😭
@icedcoffee40179
@icedcoffee40179 2 жыл бұрын
Ngo isn't so bad. From what I remember, they just say NO instead right? Imagine how difficult it'd be for the first name Nghia. Having your name mispronounced is totally the Asian American experience.
@Maki-00
@Maki-00 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen that name before. How is it pronounced?
@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj
@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj 2 жыл бұрын
@@icedcoffee40179 Exactly and my sister in law’s sister’s husband is named Nghia but he has an English name that he used instead. Nghia is hard to pronounce for foreigners.
@icedcoffee40179
@icedcoffee40179 2 жыл бұрын
@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj Tell me about it! My first name is actually Nhu and it's surprising to hear what people can come up with.
@johnson6099
@johnson6099 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know we had a large group of Vietnamese here in Mississippi. It's also our 3rd major language. Learning something new all the time and that's why I stay curious.
@CestLaVie702
@CestLaVie702 2 жыл бұрын
I love Vietnam. Greeting from S.Korea 😊
@user-if8tg1or7m
@user-if8tg1or7m 2 жыл бұрын
greeting from vietnam
@beekay9607
@beekay9607 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this video. Vietnamese language is really pretty.
@crouchingstone
@crouchingstone 2 жыл бұрын
Kindia similar to korean last name thing little bit, considering that kim, lee, park are the most common 3 last names which has their own dynasty in korean peninsula(like nguyen in vietnam) or were being strong noble family.
@TheMagnificentLordArceus
@TheMagnificentLordArceus 2 жыл бұрын
And one of the Lees in Korea is of the descendants of the former royal Ly from Vietnam. Also, as I know all the common surnames in Korea you mentioned are not just of the royal families but also ancient normal families from different areas.
@crouchingstone
@crouchingstone 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMagnificentLordArceus thanx i havent know that untill your saying Kinda interesting that some of noble family moved from vietnam to korean peninsula
@TheMagnificentLordArceus
@TheMagnificentLordArceus 2 жыл бұрын
It's actually a sad story that they had to flee to Korea because Tran Thu Do, leader of the Tran clan wanted their heads after overthewing their dynasty.
@crouchingstone
@crouchingstone 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMagnificentLordArceus I have no idea how come they decided to come here so far. rather than going to china, japan.. or thailand according to the article i saw, the number of their decendants in korea is around 1000
@wowo922
@wowo922 2 жыл бұрын
@@crouchingstone I think this is the reason why they chosen Korea: “After a month at sea, their fleet encountered a big storm and had to go to Taiwan. When Ly Long Tuong (prince of the Ly Dynasty of Vietnam) decided to go to Korea, his son Ly Long Hien became seriously ill, so he had to stay with 200 family members to settle in Taiwan. On the way to Korea, the boat was washed up by a storm on the west coast of Goryeo. Before that, the king of Goryeo Dynasty dreamed of a very large bird flying up from the south, so he ordered the local government to welcome him, and agreed to let Ly Long Tuong stay."(source: Wikipedia ). I think the story of the dream sounds interesting and strange
@Onew92
@Onew92 Жыл бұрын
Additionally, in Vietnam, 100 years ago, a mother used to be called by her first child’s name. For example, if her first child is Đức then her name will eventually changes into “Mẹ Đức”. Nowadays, the elders in the central part of Vietnam still use this system quite often. Come to Sài Gòn and you’ll have a broader perspective of how “Nguyễn” is the most common surname in Vietnam. The information provided by these people in the video somehow wasn’t truly correct but their own thoughts.
@Ahmad-nf9ez
@Ahmad-nf9ez 2 жыл бұрын
Vietnamese are brave people. I remember when they destroyed American army. Love from Yemen
@jinpingxi9891
@jinpingxi9891 2 жыл бұрын
VietNam love Yemen
@mylesdedman
@mylesdedman 2 жыл бұрын
Yo, I love how excited homegirl was to report on this subject! I was so pumped to hear more because she was leading the way 😂👍🏼.
@maryjane2965
@maryjane2965 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! I don't know too much about Asia as I have never been there. That's why I like this channel because it gives me great insight into the different cultures.
@thanGacao
@thanGacao 2 жыл бұрын
"Vietnamese people marry each other because it's a Nguyen-Nguyen situation" -Ken Jeong
@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj
@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj 2 жыл бұрын
How ironic as his wife is Vietnamese too. But her last name is Ho.
@thanGacao
@thanGacao 2 жыл бұрын
@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj can u imagine being a comedian and ur wife's last name is "Ho". 😂
@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj
@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj 2 жыл бұрын
@@thanGacao Exactly!
@whoiam7614
@whoiam7614 2 жыл бұрын
The last name "Nguyen" in Vietnam is the same as "Kim" in Korea or "Suzuki" in Japan
@jinchengzou5525
@jinchengzou5525 2 жыл бұрын
not true, Nguyen is Nguyễn (阮).. Kim is (金)... Suzuki is (written: 鈴木) ... how are they related? or you probably don't know Asian culture?
@cuongquoc4161
@cuongquoc4161 2 жыл бұрын
@@jinchengzou5525 I think his meant that those surname are all popular
@jinchengzou5525
@jinchengzou5525 2 жыл бұрын
@@cuongquoc4161 ahhh... i see, i think you are right, i am dumb...lol
@aakaak1712
@aakaak1712 2 жыл бұрын
and Wang(王/汪)in China ...
@phambinhan17
@phambinhan17 2 жыл бұрын
Not Suzuki but Sato (佐藤) is the most popular surname in Japan
@katherineyanagihara2909
@katherineyanagihara2909 2 жыл бұрын
Aloha! Thank you! History of why people changed their name in order to survive was an eye opener! Thank you!
@superhips135
@superhips135 2 жыл бұрын
Not just Nguyens, *Tran, Pham, Phan, Le, Hoang* I'm missing some...xinh loi🙏😂
@user-if8tg1or7m
@user-if8tg1or7m 2 жыл бұрын
not "xinh loi" but "xin lỗi"
@soulofocean4709
@soulofocean4709 2 жыл бұрын
The most needed light hearted interview 😉... refreshing.
@YungMerlyn
@YungMerlyn 2 жыл бұрын
More episodes from Vietnam please. 🙏
@limcheating1
@limcheating1 2 жыл бұрын
i believe the surname Nguyen is written 阮 before Vietnam abandon Chinese writing, there are many Chinese and Taiwanese shares the same surname as well, dunno where and how it originated but i think there are not related no more, on the other hand, I heard that the Lee and Kong Clan in Korea thinks their clan orginated from China, maybe Nguyen and Lee and Kong has something to do with Chinese ancestry perhaps?
@sgcl10658
@sgcl10658 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, Nguyen is Ruan in Chinese like Tran is Chen in Mandarin and Chan in Cantonese.
@angelvu
@angelvu 2 жыл бұрын
Back then people changed their surnames because they wanted to respect the kings, gain their favor, or just to honor them
@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj
@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj 2 жыл бұрын
Another reason is they were forced to too.
@angelvu
@angelvu 2 жыл бұрын
@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj Thank you, I forgot to include that
@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj
@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj 2 жыл бұрын
@@angelvu You are welcome and I only knew that because it happened to my ancestors.
@koimackan1287
@koimackan1287 2 жыл бұрын
They were emperors ma’am, Vietnam had not kings [(Quốc) vương, (國)王], but emperors [Hoàng đế, 皇帝]. "Vua" simply means a (male) monarch [= (Vị) Quân chủ, (位)君主] regardless of him being a king (王) or an emperor (帝).
@kevinbaculi
@kevinbaculi 2 жыл бұрын
When that one woman said, "We are equally confused" I felt that
@Jt0987
@Jt0987 2 жыл бұрын
Love this. More Vietnam content please!!!!
@lukas1891
@lukas1891 2 жыл бұрын
Somewhat cute, how eagerly the interviewer nods all the time. Very emphatic!
@surajnagaraju4717
@surajnagaraju4717 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting piece, I have a superior with this surname. Thanks Asian Boss for creating different types of videos
@hathaway.1166
@hathaway.1166 2 жыл бұрын
It’s been a while since they made a Vietnam asian boss episode, and yes, I’m a Nguyen gang as well😅
@INFM424
@INFM424 2 жыл бұрын
viet nguyens 🤝 korean kims
@crassuschan
@crassuschan 2 жыл бұрын
I think there must be some connection between the Vietnamese "Nguyen" and the “阮” in Hakka language of Southern China, they sound quite close. that "Ng" pronunciation is kind of a symbol in Hakka and Cantonese. Tran is related to 陈 or 谭, Dung is related to 董, Ho is related to 何, if my guess is right.
@nomnaday
@nomnaday 2 жыл бұрын
Nguyễn is 阮, Trần is 陳, Dũng is 勇, and Hồ is 胡.
@nomnaday
@nomnaday 2 жыл бұрын
譚 is Đàm, 董 is Đổng, 何 is Hà.
@nomnaday
@nomnaday 2 жыл бұрын
Vietnamese did not use simplified characters when we were still using Classical Chinese Hán văn (漢文) or in Mandarin Chinese wényánwén (文言文)
@crassuschan
@crassuschan 2 жыл бұрын
@@nomnaday thanks for the correction! Sure, simplified ones didn't exist when those culture communication happened.
@kdnguyen1444
@kdnguyen1444 7 ай бұрын
Not just related. They’re the same, just different spelling and ways to pronounce. For example, Trần in Vietnamese, Chan in Cantonese, and Chen in Mandarin are the same thing 陳
@kenng1704
@kenng1704 2 жыл бұрын
I was told by my grandpa that our family's Nguyen last name was changed from Lee (Ly) few centuries back, and that still being kept in the family's tree record in my village.
@mirasdiary
@mirasdiary 2 жыл бұрын
omg i kinda hate that so many vietnamese people have this last name LMAO i had some girl bully me with that last name and now whenever i see it i get so panicked BUT SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE IT JKDFSKJF ty for this video!! what an interesting topic :o
@angelvu
@angelvu 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t like how you find it funny
@MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou
@MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou 2 жыл бұрын
@@angelvu I don't like how you don't like how she finds it funny.
@colleennguyen6634
@colleennguyen6634 2 жыл бұрын
So sorry to hear that! I hope you will have better experience with Nguyen later on. There’re definitely good people with this last name out there. Me included
@infinithree6969
@infinithree6969 2 жыл бұрын
I do have a neighbor here in the philippines that their surname is Nguyen. They are so kind to me, they treat me as their Little brother 🥰🥰🥰
@stanhua4273
@stanhua4273 2 жыл бұрын
That's interesting, they might have settled there after the vn war time 👍, you will find many countries
@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj
@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure about other families but in my family, I heard we were forced to as my ancestors were royal officials during the Nguyen dynasty. Some of us were willing in order to gain favors but some were forced to as well.
@VerhoevenSimon
@VerhoevenSimon 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, it's interesting to know where it originated. I wonder how this'll evolve: the dropping of surnames/name changes becoming more common (which seems unlikely given the cultural background)
@tanyavu5689
@tanyavu5689 2 жыл бұрын
By dropping of surnames, you mean change to a different surname after marriage? We don’t do that here. The paperwork we need to fill to change our surname is too complicated. Since it’s uncommon to change surname, people will question you left and right about why you change it. You also have to change your name in family register, bank account, birth certificate, school record, ID card,… There is no benefit in changing your surname, just a mountain of paperwork.
@tanyavu5689
@tanyavu5689 2 жыл бұрын
The reason why Nguyen is so common is because Nguyen was the last dynasty. The king of new dynasty usually kills those with same surname as the king of the previous dynasty to make sure family members of the previous dynasty are all dead and can’t threaten his crown. Since Nguyen dynasty was the last, Nguyen remains as the most common surname.
@hungtheheroluu
@hungtheheroluu 2 жыл бұрын
I'm Vietnamese, but my last name is 'Luu', but my sister is a 'Nguyễn'. Even though I've met a lot of other Vietnamese at my high school I went to - many of whom are 'Nguyễn', I also have a couple of Vietnamese friends whose last names are 'Tran' (Trần).
@ucnguyen269
@ucnguyen269 2 жыл бұрын
2:20 tôi không biết ai là người biên dịch của video này nhưng bạn đang bị thiếu kiến thức lịch sử. Bảo Đại không phải là tên của vua như bạn dịch là "first name" mà là niên hiệu (era name), còn tên của vua là Nguyễn Phúc Vĩnh Thụy.
@tamtranminh7512
@tamtranminh7512 2 жыл бұрын
Asian Boss finally came to Vietnam
@nihilasta2661
@nihilasta2661 2 жыл бұрын
This was interesting, would love to see more content from/about South East Asian countries too
@Dante-qe6vc
@Dante-qe6vc 2 жыл бұрын
Vietnam is a part of south east Asia lol
@nihilasta2661
@nihilasta2661 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dante-qe6vc yeah I meant in addition to their other content
@htetaunghlaing8369
@htetaunghlaing8369 2 жыл бұрын
It is very interesting for me because we don't have surnames or family names. Most people just assumed that my first two names are surname or family name. It is very confusing for foreigners and hilarious at the same time.
@phambinhan17
@phambinhan17 2 жыл бұрын
@@flederfrosch5574 i guess Myanmar
@RasheedKhan-he6xx
@RasheedKhan-he6xx 2 жыл бұрын
The kids running around the tree in the background at 6:30. 🙂
@noco7243
@noco7243 Жыл бұрын
I like to imagine that a long, long, time ago, a guy named Nguyen went around the country and had lots of kids. Also that their kids went on to have a lot of children too.
@uncleknight116
@uncleknight116 2 жыл бұрын
In Trung Quoc, we pronounce this character "ruǎn"(阮).
@user-if8tg1or7m
@user-if8tg1or7m 2 жыл бұрын
you are chinese?
@NguyenNam20777
@NguyenNam20777 2 жыл бұрын
Nice episode, thanks Asian Boss.
@jijitters
@jijitters 2 жыл бұрын
I really like this interviewer, she did a lovely job :D
@juliecales2900
@juliecales2900 Жыл бұрын
We need more content on Vietnam, everytime I type vietnam I have wars videos😢
@glennextics
@glennextics 2 жыл бұрын
How about some common Chinese surnames in China? I would like to know why do so many Chinese people have a lot of Chen's, Wang's, Zhang's, and Liu's as their surnames.
@alfonschoubek2984
@alfonschoubek2984 2 жыл бұрын
They are all named Li.
@melissabradson1981
@melissabradson1981 2 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing a video that in Northern China most people are surnamed Wang while in the South most are surnamed Li.
@alfonschoubek2984
@alfonschoubek2984 2 жыл бұрын
@@melissabradson1981 There are also many people in Northern China named Li. I know a guy from a small village in Northern China where all the people have Li as surname.
@Fuzzie22
@Fuzzie22 Жыл бұрын
In the US certain part of the country some people have 2 first names like Vietnamese people from New Orleans always have 2 first names - Thao-Mi, Hoai-Nhi, Thuyet-Nhi, Thao-Vy etc so their full names are pretty Long for example: Thao-Mi Hong Tran where as people from California its just a First and a Last name like Tuan Vu , Khang Vu , Phong Vo , Minh Nguyen , Nhi Le etc. Also Vietnamese people living in the USA with English names make their names even longer Example : " Stephanie Thao-Mi Nhi Nguyen " or Johnathan Tuan Quoc Vu but then you also have people with names like John Vu , Stephanie Nguyen , Lilian Tran even though their Vietnamese names arnt Documented as a legal name at home their Parents will call them by a Vietnamese name that they have
@thatvietguyonline
@thatvietguyonline Жыл бұрын
Nice to know
@vananh3237
@vananh3237 11 ай бұрын
actually if someone name is Thao-Mi Nhi Nguyen (in VN it'd be written as Nguyễn Nhi Thảo Mi) the "Thao" is counted as middle name along with "Nhi", it does not count as first name. 4-words names are very common in Vietnam, it's just how the parents want to name their kids.
@sasdashi3909
@sasdashi3909 2 жыл бұрын
As a Chinese even I don't understand Vietnamese, I can tell that the Vietnamese people interviewed said that the most popular surname in Vietnam are (姓)阮,(姓)武,(姓)黎,etc.
@tanyavu5689
@tanyavu5689 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, the interviewees said Nguyễn 阮, Ngô 吴, Trần 陈, Hồ 胡. I’m a Vũ 武 and we are at number 7 in most common Vietnamese surname list. Lê 黎 is quite common but it was not mentioned in this video.
@sarcosmic6982
@sarcosmic6982 2 жыл бұрын
Would like more Viet content, please 🙏 I'd like to learn more about my parents' country, as it is now
@cin9842
@cin9842 2 жыл бұрын
We’re used to hearing the southern accent since we’re from the States. Next time in Vietnam it would be interesting to see another city besides Northern.
@nomnaday
@nomnaday 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah lets to Central Vietnam, so that no one can understand.
@nicholas4436
@nicholas4436 2 жыл бұрын
@@nomnaday I am 99% certain that central viets don't understand each other either
@banhit75
@banhit75 2 жыл бұрын
More Vietnamese interviews, please!
@otto7323
@otto7323 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this video. Tomorrow I have an interview with a Vietnamese person and it is really helpful for me, I understand and know more about your culture. Really interesting!
@trauddien2250
@trauddien2250 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a Nguyen living in Canada married to a Tran. My wife kept her last name. However, my children will carry the Nguyen dynasty forever!
@angiekerber2432
@angiekerber2432 2 жыл бұрын
阮 in Vietnam,金(kim)in korean
@honesty_-no9he
@honesty_-no9he 2 жыл бұрын
MORE VIET CULTURE PLEASE !!
@mingzdan6048
@mingzdan6048 2 жыл бұрын
this is the first Asian boss's video I don't even need to read the subtitle
@mariyakim9618
@mariyakim9618 2 жыл бұрын
More interviews from Vietnam, pleeeeeease:)))
@thynisia396
@thynisia396 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's pretty cool in itself that there is SO MANY people with the same surname, ignoring the cause of it. It's just rly unique and cool.
@pushinp1011
@pushinp1011 2 жыл бұрын
Some people in my country thinking Vietnam is south-east asian bcz ASEAN association, but at the same time alot people also thinking Vietnam is East-Asia bcz they culture are kinda related
@nomnaday
@nomnaday 2 жыл бұрын
We located in Southeast Asia with East Asian culture.
@thinhngo2718
@thinhngo2718 2 жыл бұрын
My Sur name is ngô. Thank Asian boss for making video about my country.
@alfonschoubek2984
@alfonschoubek2984 2 жыл бұрын
Oh no!
@thinhngo2718
@thinhngo2718 2 жыл бұрын
@@alfonschoubek2984 see so many Vietnamese here .
@MeiinUK
@MeiinUK 3 ай бұрын
That gentleman is very astute... and he knew about that three generation thing. Am very surprised that he knows such things ! ..... We have a similar phrasing in cantonese too. "1st generation are cousins, 2nd generation are cute, 3rd generation is distant"....
@memoherdez1182
@memoherdez1182 2 жыл бұрын
Well about the pronunciation "Nguyễn" ít depends on the place you are because there are a lot of variations talking about the way vietnamese people pronounce their alphabet and words
@TheRealityofFake
@TheRealityofFake 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was curious because I was told it's pronounced as "wen", but the people in this video pronounced it like "m-wen"
@chithiennguyen6416
@chithiennguyen6416 2 жыл бұрын
No, there is only one correct way to say the name "Nguyễn" and that is in the North dialect. Few other regions usually say it wrong because they can not say certain of letters from the Vietnamese phonemes. Like in the South dialect, they cannot say the vowel "êy", so they say it into "y", they cannot say the ending consonant "-n", so they say it into "-ng", they can not say the tone "~", so they say it into "?", they cannot say "Nguyễn", so they say it into "Nguỷng".
@Octobre1986
@Octobre1986 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealityofFake same
@jerryle379
@jerryle379 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealityofFake wen don't sound like nguyễn btw or mwen 😅
@TheKenzhang
@TheKenzhang 2 жыл бұрын
The Nguyen is translated in 阮ruan in chinese. and Tran is 陈 chen.
@Fgh56-eq9pp
@Fgh56-eq9pp 4 ай бұрын
Chữ giản thể à 陳
@90skidroaming
@90skidroaming 2 жыл бұрын
Asian boss your videos are fun and informative 👍.
@elisabethv8571
@elisabethv8571 2 жыл бұрын
Hands down the most fascinating and difficult language I've ever heard. And I study Chinese xD
@sarcosmic6982
@sarcosmic6982 2 жыл бұрын
I learned Vietnamese as a baby and Chinese in high school... and I think they're both hard in their own ways, but Chinese is definitely even harder if you factor in learning how to read and write as well 😂
@elisabethv8571
@elisabethv8571 2 жыл бұрын
@@sarcosmic6982 yeah, reading is tricky! Hearing Vietnamese makes me want to understand how it works 😄
@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj
@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj 2 жыл бұрын
@@sarcosmic6982 it is not that hard but is different for each person.
@chithiennguyen6416
@chithiennguyen6416 2 жыл бұрын
@@elisabethv8571 here a fact, Vietnamese used to write and read in Chinese characters in their alphabet like the Japanese and Koreans did for 2,000 years until 1945 that they stopped using Chinese characters. With using the old alphabet, Vietnamese is more difficult than Chinese. There were 2 writing systems in middle Vietnam, one is called Chữ nho or Hán tự which is basically Chinese characters used to cover Chinese loanwords, and one is called Chữ nôm or Hán nôm that are Chinese characters borrowed for it's sounds to cover Vietnamese native words.
@ghjfeeg8171
@ghjfeeg8171 2 жыл бұрын
What language is this please ? 😍 Its so sweet !
@sarcosmic6982
@sarcosmic6982 2 жыл бұрын
Vietnamese
@itshry
@itshry 2 жыл бұрын
Many foreigners pronounce "Nguyen" as Ngu Yen (2 syllables), the correct pronunciation should be one syllable " Nguin" .
@ikhebdieishetnietgoeddathe4057
@ikhebdieishetnietgoeddathe4057 2 жыл бұрын
pronounced a thiNG WE INtend to do😃
@user-if8tg1or7m
@user-if8tg1or7m 2 жыл бұрын
nah, still wrong, wrong af, "nguin" is how southern vietnamese pronounce, the standard pronunciation is "ngwyen"
@Melaniedang135
@Melaniedang135 2 жыл бұрын
“Nguin” or “Nwin” is how southern vietnameses pronounce it. Not the standard for sure. Northern people say it very differently.
@user-if8tg1or7m
@user-if8tg1or7m 2 жыл бұрын
@@Melaniedang135 chuẩn, mấy ông trong nam mới nói vậy
@jbmaru
@jbmaru 2 жыл бұрын
When studying and working in the UK, I noticed that first names are used for pretty much all (university) teachers , colleagues and bosses! I think only in formal situations you would use Mr./Ms. [Surname].
@MageThief
@MageThief 2 жыл бұрын
In Sweden (and I would guess in the other nordic countries as well) it is not common to address people with the last name, even teachers and company bosses. But in the military there we address each other with the last name.
@chenli9734
@chenli9734 2 жыл бұрын
Are Anderson Johnson and Michelson most common surnames in Sweden?
@alexndinh
@alexndinh 2 жыл бұрын
ahhh okay. Now I dont feel weird anymore by calling their firstname in Finland
@hai4668
@hai4668 2 жыл бұрын
More vietnam content please! :))
@kimd9564
@kimd9564 2 жыл бұрын
yay for street interivews in vietnam!!!
@user-ur4dv3ts3f
@user-ur4dv3ts3f 2 жыл бұрын
阮for Vietnamese and 金(kim) for Koreans.
@khoald1682
@khoald1682 Жыл бұрын
Vetnamese is a beautiful lamguage 😻 Everyone sound like they are singing!!
@jrod5069
@jrod5069 2 жыл бұрын
Hey do you know Korean, Japanese, and Vietnamese have the same last name Do. It means exactly the same.
@icedcoffee40179
@icedcoffee40179 2 жыл бұрын
More vietnamese content please!
@GL22
@GL22 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not Vietnamese, but even I could tell the cameraman’s pronunciation was off. Those two guys were just being really nice. 😂
@user-if8tg1or7m
@user-if8tg1or7m 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, i will just wrest him down and force him to learn pronunciation and the tones and yes I'm vietnamese
@maxdslr
@maxdslr 2 жыл бұрын
Who is the reporter ? She is amazing.
@AndorranStairway
@AndorranStairway 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I thought Dung was pronounced “Doong”. Had no idea it sounded closer to “Zoong”
@angelvu
@angelvu 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a difference in region because we have varying dialects. My family’s dialect says it with a D while others say it with a Z.
@AndorranStairway
@AndorranStairway 2 жыл бұрын
@@angelvu oh I see. Thanks for the explanation. I could’ve sworn I had a Vietnamese colleague once introduce their name as “Doong”. That would explain why
@wonton2454
@wonton2454 2 жыл бұрын
This interview was conducted in Hanoi, which is located in the north, their accents are more "exaggerated" and there's more spontaneity with their pronunciations. For example the same lady who mentioned the name Dung says "min" which loosely means "our", but she pronounces it as " Minggg" with an elongated g at the end. Whereas a person from the south would just say "Min".
@jamesheng1878
@jamesheng1878 2 жыл бұрын
There’s like two kind of d sounds in Vietnamese. One that is d and the other which is đ. Basically depending on the north, south and to an extent the central, the pronunciation of these letters amount other letters is different. I know my uncle who is southern vietnamese says he only understands like 70% of the Northern dialect
@zaarkhananal7165
@zaarkhananal7165 2 жыл бұрын
Dung is a very unfortunate last name to have if your living in North America, so is Phuc. My mother had a student named Phuc-Nguyen, everytime she called out his name the whole class would laugh. The kid ended up adopting a European name for self preservation. SMH
@pedrofernandes6668
@pedrofernandes6668 2 жыл бұрын
Calling a person by their first name is not impolite in the whole West. In Brazil, Portugal, and other Portuguese-speaking countries we almost never call people by their surname.
@HanGim
@HanGim 2 жыл бұрын
Not in the nordic countries either. Not the teachers, doctors or even the king. Just first name.
@Hypetreme
@Hypetreme 2 жыл бұрын
@@HanGim In Finland calling someone by their surname can a be actually a bit rude in some situations.
@philippphucnguyen5948
@philippphucnguyen5948 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a Vietnamese started with "Nguyễn" too. What a topic 🤯
@tinabeee7350
@tinabeee7350 2 жыл бұрын
Another informative video from Asian Boss. I have a lot of neighbors with the surname Nguyen and I stumble over the pronunciation a lot.
@SPDcru
@SPDcru 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting! I am always much more concerned with making sure I am pronouncing Nguyen correctly 😊
@khoaprod
@khoaprod 2 жыл бұрын
to be fair most overseas viets are southern and so the pronunciation is quite different, I feel as though choosing southern speakers would have been a better representation for foreigners to learn how to pronounce the name.
@chithiennguyen6416
@chithiennguyen6416 2 жыл бұрын
No, Southern pronunciation is incorrect because of their accent. They say Nguỷng instead of Nguyễn. Also most Vietnamese overseas are Northern Vietnamese not the South. 2 millions overseas Southern Vietnamese are common living in Cambodia, the US, Canada, England and Australia but they always forget 2,5 million Northern Vietnamese living in French, Germany, Russia, Ukraine, Portland, China, Japan, South Korea and othẻ.
@chithiennguyen1371
@chithiennguyen1371 2 жыл бұрын
No, Southern pronunciation is incorrect in Vietnamese. Also Vietnamese is originated from the North so do the name, many Vietnamese surnames were changed its pronunciation and spelling when moving down to the South due to the mix accent with other ethnic groups and politics, surnames like Hoàng became Huỳnh, Võ became Vũ, Nguyễn is pronounced like Ngũyng, Phan is pronounced like Phen, etc. Also most Vietnamese overseas are Northern Vietnamese, only the Vietnamese who live in America, Canada, Australia and UK are Southern Vietnamese dominated, Vietnamese who live in none English speaking countries like France, Germany, Czech, Poland, Italy, Ukraine, Russia, China, Japan and South Korea are are Northern Vietnamese dominated.
@hunterl4328
@hunterl4328 10 ай бұрын
Nguyen was the last dynasty in Vietnam, that’s why. Did you know at one point in Vietnam, the most popular last names were from the Han and Tang dynasty?
@gntth
@gntth 10 ай бұрын
There is another reason why 40% of Vietnamese people have the surname Nguyen. At the end of the 19th century, the French invaded Vietnam. They had a large-scale population census. But at that time, almost all Vietnamese people in the lower class didn't have a surname. So the French just think: "isn't the Nguyen dynasty the last?" They have a solution that people who don't have a surname will have Nguyen as their surname.
@user-og4lf3fr5s
@user-og4lf3fr5s 2 жыл бұрын
The origin of surname Nguyen 阮 (ruan3) from China. Today surname Nguyen Ruan 阮 in China is very rare
@wood2640
@wood2640 Жыл бұрын
But that doesn't mean nguyễn in vn have china ancestry . It because written system adopted, not bloodline
@TheDonMVo
@TheDonMVo 2 жыл бұрын
My Vietnamese last name is Vo but people keep on reverting Vo to Vu when I was younger. Vo is common too, right?
@icedcoffee40179
@icedcoffee40179 2 жыл бұрын
of course, very common!
@ducminhvu3838
@ducminhvu3838 2 жыл бұрын
it's basically two different pronunciation of the same chinese character. when vietnamese changed to use latin characters, it became distinct.
@sarcosmic6982
@sarcosmic6982 2 жыл бұрын
I have a cousin who's a Vo!
@_pimmie
@_pimmie 2 жыл бұрын
yup, Vo is a very common surname
@ln7205
@ln7205 2 жыл бұрын
From Wiki: "Vũ is primarily used by Vietnamese who live in the north,[2] while Võ mostly is used by Vietnamese who live in the south (from Quảng Bình Province to the south)."
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