Ask Swami with Swami Sarvapriyananda

Ask Swami with Swami Sarvapriyananda | March 3rd, 2024

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Q&A session led by Swami Sarvapriyananda at the Vedanta Society of New York on March 3rd, 2024. List of questions with timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
02:32 - Where is ignorance? Is it separate from Brahman?
23:41 - What is the difference between consciousness, awareness, and mindfulness?
32:10 - Is Vrittijnana the same as reflected consciousness?
32:29 - Is Consciousness static, or is it a process?
35:51 - Does existence manifest from consciousness?
37:24 - Who is it that goes from birth to birth; who attains realization?
47:53 - How does a layperson choose a life partner and still hold on to the spiritual path?
50:54 - How can realization come from Karma Yoga or Bhakti Yoga?
01:04:36 - Is there a non-dual way of understanding the practice of vairagya?
01:08:27 - Can an intellectual understanding dispel ignorance, or is something else needed?
01:15:46 - What can we do to hold on to a higher spiritual state?
01:26:48 - How do the bright and dark paths mentioned in the Gita relate to meditation?
01:28:30 - If you are not skilled in meditation, can you still reach the goal?
01:29:20 - What if your life partner drives you away from spiritual life? Is it ok to engage in multiple types of spiritual practice?
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@VedantaNY 4 ай бұрын

List of questions with timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 02:32 - Where is ignorance? Is it separate from Brahman? 23:41 - What is the difference between consciousness, awareness, and mindfulness? 32:10 - Is Vrittijnana the same as reflected consciousness? 32:29 - Is Consciousness static, or is it a process? 35:51 - Does existence manifest from consciousness? 37:24 - Who is it that goes from birth to birth; who attains realization? 47:53 - How does a layperson choose a life partner and still hold on to the spiritual path? 50:54 - How can realization come from Karma Yoga or Bhakti Yoga? 01:04:36 - Is there a non-dual way of understanding the practice of vairagya? 01:08:27 - Can an intellectual understanding dispel ignorance, or is something else needed? 01:15:46 - What can we do to hold on to a higher spiritual state? 01:26:48 - How do the bright and dark paths mentioned in the Gita relate to meditation? 01:28:30 - If you are not skilled in meditation, can you still reach the goal? 01:29:20 - What if your life partner drives you away from spiritual life? Is it ok to engage in multiple types of spiritual practice?

@smoke1682 4 ай бұрын

Dear team, I have a question for the Swami: Why does he say in many occasions that consciousness identifies itself with the body-mind? Wouldn´t it be more accurate to say that mind, especially the part of mind so called ego or causal body which is the one closest to awareness, identifies itself with the awareness that enables it to say “I”, adopting the role of the seer when, in fact, it is the seen likewise everything else appearing in consciousness? This mistake is also seen by the seer or awareness, isn´t it? Otherwise, the mistake couldn´t be pointed out and realized which means that consciousness never identifies itself with anything. To put it in that way is confusing, also because it implies sort of splitting with regard to awareness which is oneness and sameness by definition so, it cannot become the seer as well as the seen. As the swami also uses to say: “always the seer, never the seen” but this refers to awareness that needn´t to be told so, I assume that he is talking to mind or ego in which case, wouldn´t it be more accurate also to say “always the seen, never the seer”. I find the other way round a bit confusing. Thank you.

@whocareswhoami7278 4 ай бұрын

There are five stages of life - Baalya, Brahmacharya, Grihastha, Vanaprastha and Sanyasa. Dharma, Artha, Kaama & Moksha are the four important pursuits for Hindus. Vedanta is one the six orthodox Darshanas for attaining Moksha. Vedanta has many interpretations. We should follow the natural stages of life and not forget or suppress other Darshanas. We should pursue different pursuits in life in their time and place. Imbalanced life will be hypocritical and not spiritual or vedantic ou yogic. 🙏🏽🕉️🙏🏽

@smoke1682 4 ай бұрын

@PujaMajmundar Sir, if what you say is true, you are talking about a crime. Has it been reported to the police?

@officemail253 2 ай бұрын

You spent 365 days ( less holidays) in Standard ( grade) 5 school , very much " Continuing experience ", Now is it a dream or not? Can you bring in solid those 365 days, Or its a vague Dream ?

@halcyon2864 4 ай бұрын

Please everybody, take note: Swamiji Sarvapriyananda is the best teacher on Advaita living at this moment and one of the best in history of mankind. That is an indisputable truth. We are so fortunate to be able to listen to him. 💜🙏🕉️

@indranipaul1711 4 ай бұрын

Pronam maharaj Excellent teaching thank you very much

@whocareswhoami7278 4 ай бұрын

@dadooq 4 ай бұрын

How do _you_ know?

@dadooq 4 ай бұрын

@@halcyon2864I am impressed by his learning and clarity but since I am not familiar with all the Vedanta teachers alive today never mind all who lived during the past 5000 years I cannot make any comparative judgement.

@KNPai 4 ай бұрын

2:35 @@whocareswhoami7278

@daosnet 4 ай бұрын

Listening to swamiji is like drinking from a well of deep sobriety/peace.

@edwardplanciani6746 4 ай бұрын

Let's not forget when we listen to Swamiji we're listening to ourselves

@officemail253 2 ай бұрын

❤

@rudigerk 4 ай бұрын

Hello my Vedanta Friends from New York! I see you have now 300,000 Subscribers! Congratulations once again! Let's be honest, considering the outstanding Quality of Content this Channel uploads, this is still low, this should have Millions of Subscribers. Thank you dear Swamiji, over the last 5 Years i learned so much from your wonderful Lectures. There is nothing comparable on the Internet in my opinion. Best Regards

@vikasgarg7291 4 ай бұрын

Very true

@Leela_ya_Maaya 3 ай бұрын

According to him there is only one , and there is only one need to understand and become free.😂

@soumenatyoutub 4 ай бұрын

Thank you Swamiji for taking my question. (2nd question)

@tanukagupta8416 4 ай бұрын

মহারাজ- আজ ঠাকুরের শুভ জন্মমহোৎসব উপলক্ষে আপনি আমার প্রণাম নেবেন 🌷🙏🙏🙏🌷

@maitri603 4 ай бұрын

A very deep and a beautiful elaboration of verse 35 from chapter 18 of Astavakra gita by swamiji

@footballian1384 4 ай бұрын

Timestamp?

@maitri603 4 ай бұрын

54:28 śuddhaṃ buddhaṃ priyaṃ pūrṇaṃ niṣprapañcaṃ nirāmayam | ātmānaṃ taṃ na jānanti tatrābhyāsaparā janāḥ || 35 ||🙏

@subhashzadoo 4 ай бұрын

Pranam,SWAMI JI! Mahadev Bless Us All!

@MarceloSiqueiraLima_CdC 4 ай бұрын

A few months ago I consciously experienced deep sleep. It was a conscious experience of total relaxation, harmony and peace. There was only this and some kind of "background lit by a white light", if I can put it that way. A full tranquility that is difficult to describe.

@user-rg2lb6yt8o 4 ай бұрын

Hello Marcelo - would you have a moment to share your steps to arriving at consciously experiencing deep sleep? Thank you!

@MarceloSiqueiraLima_CdC 4 ай бұрын

@@user-rg2lb6yt8o good afternoon. No steps. It just happened.

@user-rg2lb6yt8o 4 ай бұрын

@@MarceloSiqueiraLima_CdC ah..have you been able to do it again? If so, any additional information you’d like to share, I’d appreciate it!

@MarceloSiqueiraLima_CdC 4 ай бұрын

@@user-rg2lb6yt8o It has only happened once to date. It was spontaneous.

@officemail253 2 ай бұрын

God's grace

@samc6231 4 ай бұрын

Swami Sarvapriyananda is one of the best gurus available

@mokshajetley9244 4 ай бұрын

Pranam Swami Sarvapriyananda ji

@mokshajetley9244 4 ай бұрын

Jai Sri Ramakrishna Jai Sri Ramakrishna Jai Sri Ramakrishna Jai Sri Ramakrishna Jai Sri Ramakrishna

@lukecarl4874 3 ай бұрын

😊but why?? Lol, I guess why not but what's behind this on Ty video

@lukecarl4874 3 ай бұрын

My bad.. shits deep

@swapankumarsarkar2722 4 ай бұрын

Pranam thakur pranam maa pranam Swamiji

@dialogos585 4 ай бұрын

Incredible as always. Grazie Swami and all who help make this possible.

@PatricksPoetry 4 ай бұрын

I love this. it speaks to me like nothing else does.

@user-cj1ru4fq9g 2 ай бұрын

Swami ji thank you for being here and impacting so many people ‘s lives 🙏 Swami ji my question is about Karmas and fruits of the Karmas . I feel that out actions have reactions immediately , like if I sow a seed I will see the plant bearing fruit may in a few months or years but not in my next life then why so many religions always talk about , what we are today are the result of our past life . Thank you and pranam 🙏

@shivsivaram9872 4 ай бұрын

Pranam to Sri Thakurji and to all 🌺🙏🌹

@anagha.aniruddha16 4 ай бұрын

हरी: ऊॅं तत्सत्| श्रीरामकृष्णार्पणमस्तु 🙏🏻 Namaskar Swami Sarvapriyanandaji Maharaj 🙏🏻 Thank you Vedanta society New York for sharing this 🌹

@arjunrathore8950 4 ай бұрын

A very deep first question and a beautiful answer by swamiji. The question was how can the locus of ignorance be in Brahman. How can darkness and light be in one place. It is possible in one situation, it can happen when you are in lower level of reality. Imagine this, you are sleeping in a pitch dark room and you are dreaming that you are walking in a bright sunny day. Here there is both light and darkness. Similarly every falsity has its locus in truth. From the frame of reference of falsity its locus is in truth, e.g dreams locus is in waking state. From the reference of waking state, there is no dream. Similarly from the frame of reference of ignorance its locus is in Brahman but from the reference of Brahman there is no ignorance. So locus does not mean it is in it, rather it is pointing to the basis.

@indrajitbhowmik4507 4 ай бұрын

Pranams to Revered Maharaj🙏🙏🙏

@subhajitgayen6443 4 ай бұрын

pranam again with lots of best wishes to you my dear SWAMI SARVAPRIYANANDA and my beloved viewers .Wish you all to live long life and find that highest glory which swamiji always speaks of.

@subhashzadoo 4 ай бұрын

Thank you for walking with us.

@spiritualseeker. 4 ай бұрын

Wonderful questions! Thanks for selecting from 1000s & asking Swamiji

@manjukodwaney5022 4 ай бұрын

Namaskaram Swamiji 🙏🌷

@ishwargaikwad8260 4 ай бұрын

Realy eye opening and serialized way of getting out of ignorance so clear like hastamalak i e Amla on palm. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 You full fill our thirst of Swami Vivekananda 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

@jayshah8602 4 ай бұрын

Pranam Swamiji! 🙏🏻

@muckaxe 4 ай бұрын

1:17:30 Swamiji’s response is one of the best you can get, a beautiful clear light in the darkness🙏❤️

@venkatramangopalakrishnan1989 4 ай бұрын

I always love to listen to Sri Swamji lectures. Looking for lectures from our Vedas and Upanishads how to live Dharmically in spite of challenges and wordly distractions and attractions. I agree liberation is the sure way but until we get that bhava how to live in a dharmic way.

@Ushamurthy8831 4 ай бұрын

Swamiji 🙏

@alecogden12345 4 ай бұрын

At 16:34 that's a good way of looking at it - "if it made sense, ignorance would be real." 🙏🙏🙏

@umaagnihotri9386 4 ай бұрын

Absolutely, one Consciousness talking to another Consciousness!!!!! From Reality point of view!!!!!!! But right now we are Seperate individuals trying to reach Reality thru different Paths!!!!!! 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏

@jyotsnapathania9590 4 ай бұрын

Pranam swami ji

@janukisarcar5430 4 ай бұрын

Jai Guru Swamiji 🙏 "Nittyaham Sudhyaham Buddhaham Muktaham."

@trusharpatel3 4 ай бұрын

Hari Om Swamiji

@rajaramk6007 4 ай бұрын

ಓಂ ಶ್ರೀ ಗುರುಭ್ಯೋ ನಮಃ

@kalam_or_kalpana2489 4 ай бұрын

Pranam Swami ji 🙏

@sombh1971 4 ай бұрын

Fascinating stuff overall, thanks so much.

@tzadik36 4 ай бұрын

Pronaams!🙏 Namashkaars to all!🙏

@rajeevanc3692 4 ай бұрын

Pranam

@yogasamrat 4 ай бұрын

Jay Gurudev!

@rayo. 4 ай бұрын

Thank you for so much light! Pranams from Mexico to our beloved Swamiji and the whole team behind! 🙏🏼🇲🇽 PS. Can anyone spell out the name of the teacher Swamiji recommends at the last question?

@carlosavila.291 4 ай бұрын

🙏

@sumitdutta7043 4 ай бұрын

Teacher recommended by Swami ji: Janki ji KZfaq channel name: Team Janki Santoke and at the very last he took the name of Swami Premeshananda who recommended combining all the spiritual attitudes.

@rajanpradhan1399 4 ай бұрын

I met you at Kolkata airport; I felt blessed.

@kalyanibarui458 4 ай бұрын

Pŕonam Maharaj 🙏🙏🙏

@samirpanda2651 4 ай бұрын

Pronam maharaj

@StatsMagic 4 ай бұрын

Ignorance or Maya is not just the power of Brahman, but also the freedom and play of Brahman.

@shamalaparameshwariah489 4 ай бұрын

Swamiji 🙏🙏🙏❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏

@jyotsnapathania9590 4 ай бұрын

Hari om

@johnoleary6939 4 ай бұрын

O Tell Me the Truth About Love by W.H. Auden

@johnoleary6939 4 ай бұрын

Wandering Soul

@mokshajetley9244 4 ай бұрын

Jai Swami Vivekananda

@jayasreen9787 4 ай бұрын

The unrevealed knowledge is ignorance. Brahman is ever shining still it is not revealed to us unless a guru point out it to us so that lack of knowing/identifying the truth appears as ignorance.

@sonujain1086 4 ай бұрын

❤❤❤❤❤

@whocareswhoami7278 4 ай бұрын

@explorejustexplore 4 ай бұрын

Ignorance comes along with Prarabdh ..but as guruji said with enlightenment it vanishes

@dadasahebjaybhaye3318 4 ай бұрын

Good

@shridharaithal1433 4 ай бұрын

Error presupposes the fact, but fact is independent of any kind of error or non understandings!

@vijayarao7745 4 ай бұрын

🙏🙏🙏🙏

@mokshajetley9244 4 ай бұрын

Jai Ma Sarda

@mmsahu1 4 ай бұрын

Question is to be presise to save time

@johnoleary6939 3 ай бұрын

The Prodigal Son

@annakarl9989 4 ай бұрын

😍🌹🧡💖🤗 🕉️

@yogasamrat 4 ай бұрын

Swamiji says Advaita is not for erasing the world experience.Advaita is for extending the state of pure awareness into the world experience! Hariom Tat Sat!

@renukasodha 4 ай бұрын

Yes that statement touched me too 1:27:41

@johnoleary6939 4 ай бұрын

What Becomes Of The Broken-hearted

@BOSScula 4 ай бұрын

I had a revelation that we are God's children and this is the way of God, we go through Maya to become God which is infinite unconditional LOVE. To us it's ignorace or suffering or Maya, to God, it is what it is. This child of God is ultimately God himself, which doesn't make sense to the logical mind because we look at Mother and Child as two separate entities but with God, it's all ONE. During the revelation it made sense because the experience was non-dual. The ultimate truth is beyond what the mind can perceive

@Nucleotron 4 ай бұрын

Where can i ask questions to swami ?

@jayasreen9787 4 ай бұрын

How we became oblivious about our true nature? Why the forgetfulness happened? If we deny Maya then we have to deny the universe also not just Jivas. Without bringing Maya is it possible to explain this universe?

@officemail253 2 ай бұрын

Is there any point in Explaining this phenomenal universe, which is ever- changing, each element of that at some point ? Has anybody found satisfaction Explaining this Universe, in all these ages? If so, it would have been recorded or followed for times ! The only point in life is knowing the Unchanging and Be with That. Maya 🙏 helps in that

@markfuller 13 күн бұрын

@6:00 (dreams, and then 11:00 waking up, do you spend time wondering where you were when dreaming?). This reminds me how scientists say 95% of our brain is subconscious, and from _it_ emerges our conscious experience (into the 5% which spends all its time rationalizing what emerged as being real). Science has also found that that emergence takes about 1/2 second. Our conscious experience is 5% of our brain receiving somethig mostly "done" (a little after the fact) and then we spend our existence making sense of that emergent experience. (Rationalizing, explaining to ourself). We know what it feels like to wake up from 1% conscious (sleeping) to 5% (normal mode). Imagine if we could wake up to 10% of our brain. We think 1% to 5% is huge, we're obviously "here" unlike being 1% here. Imagine what it would be like to be 10% here? Maybe what we accept as here is as far from reality as the 1% dream state? I had a dream where an elevator tilted 90 degrees onto its side, and began travelling a road like a car. At some level I knew I was dreaming. But, at no point did I say, "no, wait a moment. This can't possibly be real." I "went" with it like "this is how it is." It felt like a lazy assent, "I have to be someone in this." Opting wasn't an option. "It seems real enough..." It's shocking when you wake up and realize how easily you go along with this stuff. How do we know being "awake" in our 5% state is that much different than being awake at 1% (dreaming)? Our perception of existence could be that far off still. 1% to 5%'s not a lot.

@homosapienssapiens4848 4 ай бұрын

This live was held a long time ago, why is it being posted so lately?

@sumitdutta7043 4 ай бұрын

Videos are osted after editing.

@yudhyasava 4 ай бұрын

Swamiji Can I also ask you question? is their any way I can send you my questions?

@TaranpreetSingh13 4 ай бұрын

This, in itself is a question to swamiji, if he read it.

@nilayanmajumdar9174 4 ай бұрын

Yes, you can post your queries on the website of vedanta ny

@yudhyasava 4 ай бұрын

where on the website, I don't see any option@@nilayanmajumdar9174

@yudhyasava 4 ай бұрын

very smart taranpreet @@TaranpreetSingh13

@ajithrajakaruna-uz4ud 21 күн бұрын

swami why did you say nirvikalpa samadhi is beginning of meditation

@billyranger2627 4 ай бұрын

Fucking brilliant..🙏🏾🆒🚽☯️📢🕉️🙏🏾

@jyotsnapathania9590 4 ай бұрын

David Campbell

@StatsMagic 4 ай бұрын

Everything including ignorance has to be in Brahman because the only reality is Brahman.

@sombh1971 4 ай бұрын

16:22 Wonder what the Mandukya has to say on this. From its standpoint this question is moot, isn't it? If only Brahman exists then all of this is merely an illusion, to be dispelled once you wake up, and once you wake up all these questions become moot, for they made sense only in the dream. It's like, when dreaming your dream self might be wondering where does the dream world come from and once you wake up you realise that there was no such world to start with. Similarly when you become enlightened you realise there was no ignorance to start with, it existed only in the dream that you were dreaming.

@nilayanmajumdar9174 4 ай бұрын

Yes exactly

@bigpicture3 2 ай бұрын

It is hard to know how much of Jesus teachings have been altered, removed, or added to in the Bible. Because of the seeming contradictions, and non sequitur nature of some of the statements etc. But some of the concepts that Swami Sarvapriyananda is proposing here, have some correspondence to what remains in the Bible. (1) Mankind created in the image of God. (2) God describing Himself as I AM, THAT I AM. (3) Mankind being in God's image is also I AM, THAT I AM. (I AM whatever I "THINK" and "BELIEVE" that I am) Or like Buddha said: “All that we are is the result of what we have thought. The mind is everything. What we think we become.” So one of Jesus teachings was: "The Pearl of Great Price", and always seemed to be an unrelated orphan teaching. But this seems to be what Swami Sarvapriyananda is teaching here. When you find it: "sell everything you have to buy it", and let go of the pole.

@tprs_ita 4 ай бұрын

52:05

@mukeshdesai2862 4 ай бұрын

24:00. CAM RXXXXX 24:48. Reality is Clear Light of the Void. Luminous Emptiness . RXXXXX 25:50 Swarup G ☀️Vrutti G 🌙. RXXXXX 28:00. RXXXXX 29:48. Mindfulness . Focusing vrutti G .Attention. Flow . RXXXXX 1:18:00. ❤️ 1:19:05 1:20:10 🚩 1:21:00. 1:22:00 1:23:55 1:25:15. RXXX 🚩

@rc9885 4 ай бұрын

🙏🙇‍♀🌹🪔

@jegatheesonnadesan8238 4 ай бұрын

ONLY CONSCIOUSNESS IS ALL IS NOT THE ULTIMATE TRUTH

@jazzsnare 4 ай бұрын

what is?

@jegatheesonnadesan8238 4 ай бұрын

ONLY CONSCIOUSNESS EXIST. THE REST ARE JUST AN APPEARANCE IN CONSCIOUSNESS.

@jyotsnapathania9590 4 ай бұрын

Aum is E=MC square interchangeable

@selapezo1636 4 ай бұрын

Brahman is everything it is also ignorance. Just it is playing hide and seek game with itself.

@johnoleary6939 3 ай бұрын

The Fool On The Hill

@johnoleary6939 3 ай бұрын

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@vs9324 4 ай бұрын

The locus of ignorance is the most important question which Advaita Vedanta fails to answer. Ignorance in maya leads us to infinite regress. If the ignorance is in Brahman then it cannot be absolute and nirguna. In that case we are saddled with the fallacies of the concept of a Creator. A Creator cannot be omnipresent and omnipotent. It has to be limited and finite and imperfect. The answer that it does not matter whether ignorance is in maya or in Brahman is also unacceptable as both the possibilities do not reveal the truth. Hence, there has to be a truth which is different from the concept of Maya (manifested) and Nirguna Brahman (unmanifested). What could that be? Is it that we are living in virtual reality? There is maya. There is a God (or most likely, Gods) and Tat Tvam Asi is indeed true but THAT which we call Brahman / God / Ishwara is not perfect and we are experiencing maya in search of perfection (not God). But this will dismantle non-dualism and take us back to dualism. Dualism in which "our" God is imperfect. Mankind will not be comfortable with this conclusion, at least at this point in time. Advaita Vedanta connected many dots and hence it is more rational then other darshanas (viewpoints), except maybe Buddhism, but it cannot answer the question : How does the unmanifested manifest itself if it is nirguna? We should have the ability to evolve and accept that Advaita Vedanta is incomplete and does not reveal complete truth. But it does take us close to truth which it does by first improving on other darshanas but which too has deficiencies which can be overcome with a better darshana in view of new information that mankind comes across.

@homosapienssapiens4848 4 ай бұрын

That's called Saguna Brahman.

@vs9324 4 ай бұрын

@@homosapienssapiens4848 Advaita Vedanta says Brahman is the absolute and saguna Brahman is just a Vyavarhika reality. I'm saying we do not know what the absolute reality is. At best we can talk of saguna brahman. That is dualism.

@drumasankar 4 ай бұрын

@@vs9324We do not know because, the seeker is the sought.. Advaita solved all the steps till last, but the last step is going beyond mind, and all questions vanish..

@vs9324 4 ай бұрын

@@drumasankar Where something goes beyond mind, belief steps in. Beliefs never reveal truth. If we are living in virtual reality, Upanishads still remain valid. In fact, Rig Veda's nasadiya sukta becomes more insightful. Just Advaita Vedanta becomes incomplete. I use the term incomplete because among the various Hindu schools it is the closest to reality, in my opinion. That is because Advaita Vedanta connects almost all the dots except one. Vishistadvaita may be closer. I don't know. I will have to study Vishistadvaita now.

@nilayanmajumdar9174 4 ай бұрын

Advaita Vedanta has never claimed to be complete. In fact the Upanishads themselves mention that even Advaita Vedanta has to be discarded eventually, for language is incapable of capturing reality as it is. It is only a pointer, do what you must with it. Don't become engrossed in the philosophy itself, for the actual intention is to transform yourself.