That fucking noise had me dying

YEAAAS

and weve beeen tbagging them since vanilla 🤣

Which is hilarious because it seems everything is actually just evolving into a crab, not a dragon. SO THEY WERE WRONG

It was prolly cuz they were hanging with elementals

That isn't even a reason

@@Ironytheloreaxe good one xD

And it is a nod to the god Tyr chained the wolf Fenris in Norse mythology. It cost him his hand.

I'm not if Blizzard had this in mind, but the part where Warcraft Tyr has his hand replaced with a silver prosthetic could also be a parallel to the Irish god Nuada (who has the epithet Airgetlám mean 'silver hand').

​@@Oaglornah its a reference to keanu Reaves

​@@Oaglor I thought he was just an azerothian tyr... The Norse god who betrayed fenrir

@@kaiyote7924 From what I had read, Norse Tyr never replaced his hand. Nuada, on the other hand, does replace his hand. Due to my shit proofreading skills, I forgot to add the word 'sure' to the first statement 'I'm not sure if Blizzard had this in mind'. The Nuada connection was just me putting two-and-two together.

You need aspirin, man? 'Cause I do.

I'm pretty sure once they got there being so close to the oculus increased their powers. How they managed to move the city with nerfs however, is beyond me.

Because even while nerfed mages are extremely powerful. Especially when they pool their powers together like they did to teleport the city.

They merged their remaining powers together

"It's magic, I aint got to explain shit."

Dude, that whole sequence of events made me more emotional than anything else in WoW. I was angry at Xavius, I was heartbroken when I had to kill Ysera, and I was in awe at the cinematic. I think it did actually bring a tear to my eye and I still get goosebumps watching it. Whoever was in charge of that quest line needs to be the narrative director, because it was awesome.

I could only think rip-off/spoof of specific dragon movie, like how the black city may or may not have ripped off lord of the rings.

Shadowlands will never be canon for me

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Exactly

It's really hard to take any of this shit seriously when the WoW version of Eldritch beings are regularly curb stomped by people named things like Weedlordgoku or Sephirothuchiha

I'd say titanforged or animals

They were able to disguise as the humanoids that would eventually live in the future because the bronze dragonflight could see them in the future They had no need to turn into these humanoids yet, but they could

I was looking for this, i like krasus.

yeah fr he hears something extremely out of context and goes "Pepega DAS STOOOPID BAD WRITING!!!"

Yeah, there was no way anyone could have beat Galakrond with brute force at that point, not even the Titan Keepers, they were just whelps. Gimmicky shit was the only way. Although the Malygos bit when he eats other dragons and regains his sanity is insanely lazy and stupid.

@@unholyallen9572 no doubt, never liked that part in Nexus Point but thats also very out of context "Malygos awakens from his slumber. In his insanity, Malygos misinterprets the Nether dragons arrogant proclamations of being the embodiment of the Nexus and absorbs them and their power. The dragon's Nether-warped physiology began to affect the Spell-Weaver himself, ultimately helping him regain some of his lost sanity" So in reality he wasn't just chowing down on some standard dragons he was absorbing the Arcane magic out of Nether dragons. Also I don't know if I'd call the Galakrond kill a gimmicky thing, gimmicky would be needing a deus ex machina laser beam that could disintegrate him, a boulder just seems like a logical way to deal with it

and to top it off, they were proto drakes, does he think proto drakes, which are about as smart as t-rexs, would be smart enough to do other things that arnt primitive on the surface? besides maly being the smartest one of them, he was till pretty dumb compared to any of the playable races like a human, or a orc. they didint become intelligent like they currently until after they gained their aspect powers and transformed into the drakes we see them as today i believe.

Very reminescent of norse and greek mythology in the way they wrote this, not bad, not extremely inspired but makes sense in the context.

“I just think they’re neat!” Damn right

i like turtles

you god to be kitten me

@Shawn Nickolus all of the lore was Metzens to begin with though I mean that doesn’t invalidate what you’re saying but I wanted to point that out Metzen retconned a ton of shit but he was also the guy who wrote the Warcraft 1/2 manuals Some things arguably got a little cooler but I always felt that Warcraft 3 sorta went PG13 whereas Warcraft 2 was rated R

Ghey

I also always assumed drakes were younger dragons, because in Warcraft 3, that's what they are: the lvl 6 dragon form, above baby dragon and below dragon

They've legit done the exact same thing in Overwatch so yeah, like its totally something they could do.

No, why would a game at the time with like 10 million subscribers be canceled or shut down.

@@upsidedownpeon9984 If I remember correctly, they did not expect that popularity to last.

Project Titan was from a completely different company. And if I was blizzard I would've tried to make a bigger better game then them.

@@liamwilson7549 I googled Tyri and just found a battle pet.

That Title belongs to Yrel.

@@liamwilson7549 I just googled Tyrygosa and it's just another basic bitch blood elf. Can't compare imo to a true mommy dommy like Yrel who manages to slap a leash on Garrosh Hellscream.

@@liamwilson7549 she cute but not as famous or iconic as Alex.

@@liamwilson7549 Juju is cuter than Marin yeah

I think this would be better suited as an entire feature of the game that is expanded upon each expansion. Let people get the big plot moments in a sands of time/bronze dragonflight thing like you're saying, but just let it be a for-fun campaign with maybe some mounts or cosmetics or game play twists. I know this idea is too expensive for blizzard, even though they could easily cough up the dough for it.

Wait, it is?

The way you get there, is the difference. He also didn't complain about Deathwing being manipulated by an old god, because it had a good reason for happening.

@@Gorgovoid173 how is the way any different between the Nightmare Dragons and the Infinite Dragons?

@@phantafalconpunch With the infinite dragonflight, it's just there because it is. It's an arbitrary decision and had a way better alternative already set up for it. Sure, the bad version of the bronze aspect helps the old gods too, but as a side-product of his own will. The rest are "just corrupted" and were portrayed as being "just corrupted" before the bronze aspect even was. With the nightmare, it's the opposite of the emerald dream. Makes sense. With Deathwing, his entire existence sucked and he wanted out. N'zoth was like, "gotcha fam". Makes sense.

@@Gorgovoid173 I never brought up Deathwing, he doesn't matter to this conversation. And the Emerald Nightmare had no reason to be connected to the Old Gods either. Tell me, why did they have to connect the two? Why not say that the Emerald Nightmare is the manifestation of nature's endgame, where everything rots, decays and is turned to lifeless husks, and it's trying to take over the emerald dream, and the Nightmare Dragons are a manifestation of the rotting and wilting of nature. The opposite of the Emerald Dragons Much like the Infinite Dragonflight, the Emerald Dragonflight also has a far more interesting alternative idea and has no reason to be connected to the Old Gods

​@@phantafalconpunch Deathwing is one of the main focuses of this video. With that in mind, I decided to give an example for him too. When you boil anything down far enough, it'll become arbitrary, but with the Emerald Nightmare it actually does make sense to be connected to the old gods. The reason being, that the Emerald Dream is a vision of the ideal Azeroth without mortal interference. You know? the planet that used to be completely infested with old gods before the Titans swooped in? So it makes sense for the Nightmare to have a connection to the old gods, if it's the opposite of the ideal vision. It's very Ying and Yang and it does make sense, since most things are a struggle of balance between different eternities in this game. It's just sticking to the theme. If you're complaining that it's not the way you wanted, then that's a you problem. The difference between this and the infinite dragonflight, is that if they went with the existentialism all the way, it would've been a more interesting story instead of just incorporating the old gods into the mix, since they're almost always everywhere every time anyway. And the more major difference, is that the infinite does not ORIGINATE with the old gods. It originates with Nozdormu. It would've been swell, if that's the way it went all the way. Though, despite being long-winded, I do actually think it's not that big of a deal that the infinite has a connection to the old gods. The bronze dragonflight to me is the most arbitrary and needlessly overpowered of them all. And I really just don't like time travel, when it's done poorly... And it's done poorly very often indeed. However, the difference between the two flights, is very clear in my eyes.

I miss that fight.

I'm sure blizz can and will retcon any dragon lore they like during this expansion of Shadowlands is something to go off

@@TheJames208 true, i'm willing to bet they'll do an ass pull and make it so the dragon flights can force an event or commune with Elune to quicken it up

If the Eclipse can not come to Wrathion ... the Wrathion will have to go to the Eclipse ... with the help of some time travel! Chromie: "And that's my cue!"

@@Grubnar imagine if they just Teleport away in time for a second or two and then come back. “So, how’s it feel being an aspect now?” “I feel a lot of pressure on my scales.. this Is extremely uncomfortable..” “No take backs!”

If memory serves, in Day of the Dragon, after Deathwings betrayal and most of the blue dragonflight was wiped out, Maylgos degraded both physically and mentally until he was basically a dragon version of Golum. In the War of the Ancients trilogy, thanks to time travel, a bunch of blue dragon eggs were spared, helping make sure Maylgos didn't lose all hope, so he never ended up reaching the lows we saw him at in Day of the Dragon, but he still was so scarred both physically and mentally after trying to fight Deathwing, that that he had to take an incredibly long time to fully recover (conveniently still leaving him indisposed for the time period he was entirely crazy, so they wouldn't have to come up with what Maylgos would have done during that time).

of destiny

said the guy who hasn't hang out with dragons

The original fight of AQ is the only time they have been helpful without any downsides.

its like having 5 Raidens. All they do is make things worse and keep F'ing up nonstop.

Bro they gave the night elves immortality and the druids the emerald dream, helped fight against C'thun, and technically defeated many of the burning legion and deathwing but the issue is that deathwing was a dragon himself. Also helped plant other world trees, stop blight at the wrathgate, and save the fabric of time constantly. I know this sounds dumb but azeroth may have died without these core aids of theirs

Actually, they had you prevent his resurrection in Dragonblight.

I think wow 2 should just be a reset where some writers pick and choose what was cool and worked and throw all the garbage out Take us back to Warcraft 1s world, remove all the retcons, and go from there People would go apeshit for a retelling that had differences where stuff has gone off the rails Imagine if we got the OG Draenei before the silly Argus / eredar nonsense? Just a hulking , ugly alliance race because they want revenge on the horde

It involves time shenanigans.