That’s cause blizzards story telling is dogshit and confusing. Platinum does a good job piecing it all together

You need to read the quest text.

Read the books 😂🤣😂

@@TNTspaz Still, this guy probably didn't read the quest text. Lol. The serial WoW lore complainers mostly do not read text, listen to dialogue and skip cutscenes. You gotta put *some* effort in yourself.

@@TE-eq1dc Except Suramar, that’s probably their only good in-game story telling they’ve ever made.

Some dragon ball z shit lol

It only lasted 30 days with the storm tiger guy because he has lightning immunity and lei shen had to beat him into submission with just his fists. The other 3 weren’t mentioned because lei shen just used lightning to clap them in like 2 seconds, so they weren’t worth talking about.

I think that no one got the joke. In MoP, everyone had everything and no one died in PvP, so you had matches easily 15 minutes long.

@@OWA_Freerunning My comment was also a joke but you got to admit it was a good one.

i don't know what you were playing but a frost dk could 3-4 tap you if you're not careful, that same frost dk could also decide that they don't want to die and dump all their resources into healing..... you might have a point.

Right, instead of having to learn about it years later in a random lore summary video.

I can imagine, but its foolish to dream so big. Blizzard will never do something like that, let alone actually making good story writing again

Ya its not like all of this was present in game...oh wait....IT IS. AND WAS. Save some later developments added in chronicle you can read in game text about it. In its entirety.

guldan

@@ConnorNotyerbidness the character development isn't really there though, that would require something similar to FF14's storytelling. just because it exists in game doesn't mean that it's being used well

Who knows, maybe microsoft will revive hots :copium:

Blizzard: "Here, have a Thunder King Shaman Hero Skin in Hearthstone. Take it or leave it."

@@Yubie1 Imagine hots with a bunch of Microsoft IPs thrown in it might actually save the game from its decline.

@@clintonmallard8447 Hots is its own game honestly and requires a lot less time to get good at it since there's no items and way less heroes.

​@@clintonmallard8447 I've played pretty much every MOBA and the only ones I still play regularly are HOTS & LOL. HOTS is easy to pick up and you never feel far behind the meta no matter how long of a break you've had from it which is nice. It's a casual friendly game whilst still having significant skillgaps. I also find more variety in playing the same heroes on HOTS because of the talent system whereas on other MOBAS I feel like I'm just doing the same build and using the same spells 90% of the time.

Mop and wod is proof that you will never know what you are gonna get from a wow expension.

And y'all owe the "stupid joke panda expansion" an apology after Shadowlands.

@@Derek147900 Yea I wasn't addressing the video... I was just stating I used to get my lore facts from Nobbel, you're aware that youtube has more then one WoW lore channel or do I need to hold your hand through my statement?

@@Derek147900 What video I'm I trying to cross reference, please point out where I was stating another video. All I pointed out was I'd like an in-game function that told me the stories from the books in the game. I also claimed about getting my lore on WoW from another KZfaqr. Replying to my comment without being a douche and trying to correct me on a topic not even brought up isn't hard BRO.

very cheekily too lol

That'd be awesome, i would gladly enslave all those pandaren scum.

Yeah, you would have thought that Allied Race would be a great opportunity to add Jinyu to the Alliance and Mogu to the Horde. But like many features from WoD onwards, Blizzard half-assed it and turned into a expansion gimmick instead of expanding on it.

@@aureliodeprimus8018 The mogu would never join any of the factions given how prideful they are, to think they would submit themselves to what they think are inferior races is out of question.

@@matheuswagner5198 I mean Zandalari trolls were also prideful and thought themselves superior, but circumstances changed. Yes, with the Mogu you have a harder case since they are even more stubborn than Trolls, but considering they are now in a state similar to the Age of hundred kings it wouldn`t be too hard to make a scenario of one Mogu clan struggling so severely, that they would do anything to survive. One random encounter with the Horde later and voila. Honestly, considering how much Steve Danuser and his writing team messed up the lore already, this wouldn`t even be the most outrageous thing they could do....

@@matheuswagner5198 Rajani, not subscribing to Lei Shen's ideology: Are we jokes to you?

Everytime i see a comment like this on WoW videos... 'Imagine if it was better' ... But its not stop the copium

@@TonyKalashnikov b r u h. I stopped playing months ago, I'm not on copium, just like "we already had fun, imagine if they actually utilized the good writers they used to have, it would've been even better".

Blizzard is an indie company bro, don't get your hopes up.

The content in this patch was god-tier. The lore, if not the actual storytelling, was also spectacular. there's a reason a LORGE section of players active during mists consider it to be peak WoW gameplay.

Just how bad Danuser is, the lore literally went bad when Metzen left after writing legion and Danuser the Sylvanas Simp took the spot.

Makes it 100 times worse when you consider, that 'anima' in latin literally means 'soul'. Like, not only did they go the easy way with the naming, by calling the literal soul-juice 'soul', but also forgot to check if they used that term already.

Looks the same, too. So they had 2 options. 1. Say this was Ra-Dens Life force Anima. 2. Give the SL Anima a diffrent name and design. But none of this obvious simple solutiins came to mind.

But Christie Golden writen pretty good books thou , it's just sad to see non of it actually play out in-game instead.

@@timjack4650 i agree but her more recent books has been bad and her contributions to the bfa ingame story has also been bad in my opinion Her last good book for me was lord of the clans and maybe rise of the horde. Arthas was eh. The jaina novel, warcrimes, before the storm and now the sylvanas novel have all been ranging from mediocre or just bad with the latter 2 being criminal imo

Danuser is the main issue, he is completely inept when it comes to the lore and telling good stories. Golden isnt a bad writer but ofc she more likely than not gets some guidance on what the books should be about...and as good as you are its hard to turn shit into gold.

@@ghekor nah she did get alot of guidance. In fact, she was also given alot of freedom to retcon shit aswell as seen with Before The Storm where she retconned the entire forsaken society lore to fit her version just because "she never understood/liked vanilla's forsaken lore" Plus she has very specific taste in narrative as seen with Anduin's story and self inserts like Calia Menethil's story both of which have been either dull as all hell or just wtf

@@khalduras784 wait so, all that shit about the forsaken being like the villains most of the time that recently came up was all goldens doings?

I think mogu wont work really good as a playable character especially if they are able to play with alliance and horde, everyone would be a mogu then bc u can just quest as alliance and horde

@@Dathrix Or like pandas?

Well its not like he didnt try. He gotta establish rule and actually govern his conquered territory no? So yeah, it wasnt so much that he only chose to rule pandaria. It was more like before his death, his empire only reached to the corners of pandaria.

@@Dathrix Pandaren/Dracthyr neutrality mechanic: Am I a joke to you?

only duck ever mentioned in game

I was watching this now and thinking. What did I miss, because I remember in Legion Sargeras did kill the titans and I thinking he is using their essense to empower the Burning Legion.

@@karerabbe7829 Lei Shen beat 4 wild gods with little to no effort. Xuen is pretty much immune to lightning since he himself has similar abilities, so he had to beat him into submission with his own hands, and thats why it took 30 days. While yes there are examples of weak titan watcher as you fight some of them as trash mobs (although players were not only powerful themselves but also had the strongest weapons in lore and they were empowered), some titan watchers are actually really strong. Remember titan watchers fought equally and eventually defeated the elemental lords, are you implying that Lich King could fight Ragnaros in a 1v1 and win ? Especially when you consider the fact that wild gods, althought vary in strength there are some good examples. Malorne who fought archimonde and Sethralis who fought Mythrax, and her own self destruction, annihilated the entire Vol'Dun area similar to what happened to Uldum. Lich King never had power of that magnitude . His strength comes from the endless undead army, not necessarily from pure power

@@karerabbe7829 Lei Shen may not be able to beat ragnaros but he is for sure on a tier of the strongest beings in azeroth. He beat 4 wild gods. There are examples where wild gods are actually pretty strong considering the many characters warcraft has. Sethralis as i mentioned blasted the entire zone of vol'dun. Pretty much the same things that happened with Uldum. So Lei Shen fought 4 wild gods who should be on that level of strength more or less. Lich King never did anything close to that. If you think LK would beat Archimonde, you are so wrong. Based on what exactly ? Archimonde and Kil'jaeden never feared the LK himself. Its his army that is a problem. To give you an idea how strong Archimonde and Kil'jaeden is. Only they could defeatt Azshara pre-N'zoth power up. She shielded her palace during the Sundering for quite some time, and thats insane considering the sundering had enough force to split continents. You realise how big that feat is ? And Malorne fought Archimonde who is superior to that level of power ? Yeah Lei Shen is an absolute beast and LK is no where near close to that level. Dont confuse powerscaling with how much better character he is Another thing to note. If you think Ra-Den is weak you have no idea, he together with Helya forged the 4 elemental planes and sealed, the elements (including Ragnaros and the others) in those pocket dimensions. So Lei-Shen also has enough power to create a pocket dimension at least a small one (not saying that he could make another elemental plane by himself but since it was only Ra and Helya he should have at least half the power required to create one) You also avoided the question : Could LK beat Ragnaros ? You just responded with another question about Lei-Shen if he could beat Ragnaros. The answer is simple if Lei-Shen cant, LK definetely cant do shit against any of the elemental Lords. Atleast Lei-Shen can fight for some time considering he has powers of a titan watcher who fought these elemental lords

It was Metzen, lore turned shit when he left and Danuser took his place, his first expansion as the lead writer was BFA.

We did, and he was resurrected on the small island in the north-eastern part of Kun-Lai where there are zandalari trolls. There's also a valley up in the mountains with a bunch of tombs and the mogu and zandalari were searching for the one belonging to Lei-Shen and they got to it first.

Might be conflicting sources. Pandaria had a lot of stories like that where there were many legends about certain events went. I recall the Thundering Mountain-scenario being how the tale was told in-game before the Chronicles.

@@Dreamfillah Propably, my version was from the Chronicles. It still looked a little dumb with the pole..

I thought the same thing back during MoP. If you're going to base a villain for a China themed expansion on anyone, then go for one of the best. Qin Shi Huang is a historic figure I find fascinating, as an example of how sometimes, you need a monster to get things done. Nobody but a maniacal tyrant would have been willing to bust heads and conquer by force to end the Warring States period.

@Rose Anne Boushard a youtuber

@Rose Anne BoushardIt’s the Guy who made this video! He also does quite a few explaining strategies for Classic and TBC Dungeons, Raids, etc. But he managed to make it insanely fun to watch and interesting. 👌

With the exception of the player Demon Hunter who possesses the same Immortal soul like Illidan and can thus keep returning from death, noone else has such a soul and really outside specific raid enounters where we get 'killed' like ICC and Antorus(?) we arent technically getting killed anywhere else and in those 2 we get instanly ressed back.

I mean it doesn't really matter tbh, because Lei Shen > Lich king in terms of power, don't get me wrong i love Arthas since wc3, but lets be real he didn't stand a chance against full power Lei Shen