ASOIAF Theories: There are Two Walls | The Mystery of The Five Forts

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Quinn's Ideas

Quinn's Ideas

8 жыл бұрын

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Just sharing my ideas one my favorite book series, A Song of Ice and Fire by George RR Martin. This video may contain spoilers for those of you who are not up to date with the series.
I'm just speculating and guessing on some ideas that I have on how future events will transpire in the series. Keep in mind however, I know nothing.
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@johno1544
@johno1544 6 жыл бұрын
You don't build a thousand foot wall of black stone to keep out desert raiders.
@TheBlackhoof
@TheBlackhoof 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah but you build a 2000 km wall of regular stone to keep out steppe raiders :P
@michaelhenry3234
@michaelhenry3234 6 жыл бұрын
L G Mansbridge lol.
@maxh19991
@maxh19991 5 жыл бұрын
Thats basicaly what the Chinese did
@tomslade1849
@tomslade1849 5 жыл бұрын
and the Romans @@maxh19991
@johnmartinez4381
@johnmartinez4381 5 жыл бұрын
Trump lol
@janep.2214
@janep.2214 8 жыл бұрын
Don't you think it could have been more interesting to the story if Dany had gone far East in quest on knowledge istead of stay in Meereen getting a little bit bored?
@99superjesus
@99superjesus 8 жыл бұрын
+Yo Jane I wonder if GRRM has other plans to reveal more info in another story. Part of me thinks its too late for that to happen in either book or show. I hope so anyway. Imagine a spin off series similar to Conan the Barbarian that explores the far east. That would be amazing
@janep.2214
@janep.2214 8 жыл бұрын
+99superjesus Absolutely. But I guess Martin will not have enough time to do that. He still has to finish Winds of Winter, continue with Dream of Spring. Then continue the Dunk and Egg's story and he wants to write Fire and Blood, the story of the Targaryen dinasty in Westeros. Too much work to do. And if he finishes all of those projects perhaps he would follow the path of the North (Winterfell, Beyond the Wall). Westeros is fascinating but I would love to know a little more of Essos specially Asshai. Damn it, why Dany did not go there?
@LithningWolf
@LithningWolf 8 жыл бұрын
Maybe she will, and maybe we will have a new POV character from Yi-Ti that will meet Dany and tell her that his lands are being devasted by the others. In the two books to come it is possible.
@teenwilliam1000
@teenwilliam1000 8 жыл бұрын
I don't know what Jorah Mormont's up to in the books (haven't read them), but on the show maybe he'll seek out Quaithe to cure his greyscale and she'll send him to the far east to get ingredients for the cure or something?? idk.
@KingBrandonm
@KingBrandonm 7 жыл бұрын
teenwilliam1000 in the books Jon Connington has grey scale. Jorah is just exiled. at this point the show is just really good fan fiction using some of the most important bits and doing their own thing otherwise.
@paulallen2654
@paulallen2654 8 жыл бұрын
I really wish that Dany will go east instead of west, far more interesting.
@MeanMrMustard1
@MeanMrMustard1 8 жыл бұрын
+Paul Allen That would take three more books at least, each of which would be released 10 years apart. No thanks.
@basboosa2812
@basboosa2812 7 жыл бұрын
GRRM confirmed to fans that none of the main characters in his story will go to Asshai but the city may be referenced by other characters
@jael3177
@jael3177 6 жыл бұрын
basboosa But wasn't that long ago? GRRM said now that the shows way ahead of the books he's going on a different path and making the story as different as possible from the show so maybe he's opinion has changed.
@Titanic_401
@Titanic_401 6 жыл бұрын
To reach west you must go east. To go forward you must go back, and to touch the light you must pass beneath the shadow. For Dany to go West to Westeros she must go east to Vaes Dothrak. To go forward with her invasion, she must go back to where she got power, Vaes Dothrak. To touch the light, the burning of the Temple, you must pass beneath the shadow, the giant horse statues.
@TheYohandy2121
@TheYohandy2121 6 жыл бұрын
Paul Allen me too
@neilghosh3821
@neilghosh3821 7 жыл бұрын
Essos is far more mysterious and interesting than Westeros.
@cb-7422
@cb-7422 7 жыл бұрын
The intrigue plays at our natural curiosity. It's not even real, and millions of people want to find out what lies beyond, which is what makes it amazing. I can only imagine what people of the past in small, rural villages were thinking. How large is the world?
@Devyne187
@Devyne187 6 жыл бұрын
westeros represents white Europe so u know
@bl00dy-ca76
@bl00dy-ca76 5 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah.
@dylanfontaine591
@dylanfontaine591 5 жыл бұрын
Devyne187 No westeros doesn't, it is basically England and Ireland merged together with light fantasy, and essos is the rest of Europe.
@TheTfrules
@TheTfrules 5 жыл бұрын
Much like Britain does John Smith
@eamonncleary1539
@eamonncleary1539 7 жыл бұрын
I dont think it is a coincidence that the Bloodstone Emperor story is almost identical to the Night's King. I really hope we get more stories fro the East
@rossengland1919
@rossengland1919 8 жыл бұрын
This could settle the argument about who's Azor Ahai since people usually go to either Daenerys or Jon, it could be both if there was more than one hero in history.
@Neo587
@Neo587 8 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I thought.
@thegoodwin
@thegoodwin 5 жыл бұрын
On one side, it is the prince that was promise. Then, at the other side, it is the princess.
@constantin5509
@constantin5509 6 жыл бұрын
If there is one thing this video has convinced me of, is that I should really start reading Lovecraft.
@joekerr9197
@joekerr9197 8 жыл бұрын
So basically there are Murlocs and Khajit in GoT universe.
@ChristianAuditore14
@ChristianAuditore14 8 жыл бұрын
there aren't this guy is a junkie tinfoil
@timokirchler
@timokirchler 8 жыл бұрын
+Christian leontsinis least he can talkie good scholar
@sarahofhousedayne9361
@sarahofhousedayne9361 8 жыл бұрын
I think he is just making the connections to the references of Lovecraft, not necessarily saying Martin is using all of Lovecraft's ideas ...
@radamanthium
@radamanthium 8 жыл бұрын
He is. He has admitted, and there are many tributes in the books.
@DSesignD
@DSesignD 6 жыл бұрын
Got any skooma?
@beaukennedy4618
@beaukennedy4618 7 жыл бұрын
if they come from the north and the east then it seems to me when winter comes you just pack up and have a holiday in the summer isles
@blizzardandmai1129
@blizzardandmai1129 6 жыл бұрын
Do you want to get butterfly fever?
@tntsummers926
@tntsummers926 5 жыл бұрын
@@blizzardandmai1129 that disease is only in the butterfly isles, that's the whole reason it's called that. And if there right about the butterflies protecting them, then they might not die but that's unlikely.
@dustinbird9170
@dustinbird9170 5 жыл бұрын
@@tntsummers926 Naath is literally home to the butterfly fever, it is stated explicitly in the lore
@tntsummers926
@tntsummers926 5 жыл бұрын
@@dustinbird9170 wait I thought Naath was the butterfly isles real name, is that not true?
@dustinbird9170
@dustinbird9170 5 жыл бұрын
@@tntsummers926 Naath is the island of butterflies, so the disease is on naath, and anyone not from their will catch the disease and die after a few days if they don't leave quickly
@thatguybrando
@thatguybrando 8 жыл бұрын
Aren't there also ruins on Sorthoros that are made of the black stone, and apparently nothing grows near them.
@LeohTheArcher
@LeohTheArcher 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, when Nymera fled wih her people they stopped there but soon after they went "nope, I'm out of here". Would love to see that part of the world, as well as the far east, explored by Martin, even if just as a spin-off after he finishes ASOIAF.
@inthefade
@inthefade 8 жыл бұрын
+Leonardo Marques I don't think he'll explore it, and I don't think he should. Remember that Lovecraft's most powerful literary technique was in not fully describing things, but leaving as much as possible to the reader's own imagination. I think that is the whole point of what GRRM has done here, and why he has referenced Lovecraft so strongly in the lore of far-Essos and Sotheros; They seem so grand and mystical in contrast to our story in Westeros and near-Essos that it would only work to diminish them if stories were actually written in those places. The mystery would necessarily become much more mundane and normal.
@lennysmileyface
@lennysmileyface 8 жыл бұрын
Unless the mystical and grand stories were true.
@drej1015
@drej1015 7 жыл бұрын
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) there is some truth to every legend
@blizzardandmai1129
@blizzardandmai1129 6 жыл бұрын
The city of Yeen. Creepier than Asshai in my opinion.
@Haddomne
@Haddomne 5 жыл бұрын
Walls? For what? Just send Arya to dangerous places. She will kill all and everything with a knife, because, you know, she had this training where she was blind :D
@dokidoki777
@dokidoki777 5 жыл бұрын
_"Bran seems like the most likely candidate."_ *Just you wait.*
@joannaszulc1496
@joannaszulc1496 5 жыл бұрын
it'll probably be Jon who does the physical fighting, but I do think that Bran will have a significant role to play
@Nugmaster224
@Nugmaster224 8 жыл бұрын
The whole to go west you must go east thing seems like pretty solid evidence for this.
@shitburd
@shitburd 8 жыл бұрын
Do you think Patchface saw the Deep Ones?
@moazim1993
@moazim1993 5 жыл бұрын
Joseph Burgis respect the Patchface reference. He only knows them from his sex fantasies.
@PeachBeef
@PeachBeef 8 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate all the work you put into your videos. The visuals you add along with your commentary really heighten the experience. Great work, keep it up.
@brohoelikeacholo
@brohoelikeacholo 8 жыл бұрын
While I do think that the others are coming from the east as well, I don't think Dany is going to have any part in stopping them GRRM has said we will not see asshai because it must remain this mysterious untapped land that is only heard about but never seen, I think this is the case for the entireity of the far east, including yi ti & the forts. There has been no mention of the forts, and no emphasis drawn towards the black stone I think that there will be a champion in the east that will drive out the others but that story is happening independent of the story of ASOIAF. GRRM wants to keep certain things hidden from us, and I think ASOIAF is a story about the iron throne, Dany ultimately will end up in westeros. The east's champion is probably from Yi Ti or asshai and their story is probably incredibly interesting but we won't see it in ASOIAF. I think vaes dothrakk & Qarth is the furthest east the story is going
@Opachki69420
@Opachki69420 8 жыл бұрын
+brohoelikeacholo although dany may get drawn away from westeros completely upon a revelation about her childhood much like jon will learn of his targ origins, just a guess
@DzinkyDzink
@DzinkyDzink 7 жыл бұрын
+gnovakov read the lore material. Ther are currently several emperors in YiTi so the shit is crazy there too.
@brittanynichole5970
@brittanynichole5970 8 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately GRRM said they aren't connected. but that still doesn't mean they didn't invade essos. Im thinking they did. I think its just something we'll just have to wait for. Eventually. Hopefully.
@QuinnsIdeas
@QuinnsIdeas 8 жыл бұрын
+Brittany Smith frozen ice is my idea. Essos and Westeros are different continents yes but that doesn't exclude other possibilities
@brittanynichole5970
@brittanynichole5970 8 жыл бұрын
+IdeasOfIceAndFire Exactly. and yea if they bring the cold, its perfectly plausible that the others could just freeze a whole area of sea or ocean, and walk straight across.
@anarchysyndrome
@anarchysyndrome 8 жыл бұрын
+Brittany Smith Where did GRRM say this? curious to read it. Thanks!
@brittanynichole5970
@brittanynichole5970 8 жыл бұрын
+Corey Evans It was from an interview question he answered at one point. give me a minute and ill find the original source.
@brittanynichole5970
@brittanynichole5970 8 жыл бұрын
+Corey Evans Ok. It was a question his editor had asked him while working on the book. at westeros.org has archives of notes between GERM and his editor. ill give you the exact link to where they have it below. its under the "GEOGRAPHICAL INFORMATION" section, last sentence. The public was able to view these private notes between the two after GRRM donated old manuscripts to his old college so they could display them. I believe some college in Arizona. you can actually go there yourself and view the manuscripts, its pretty cool. they call the notes SSM's which is short for So Spoke Martin. just notes where he answered questions his editor had while editing his work. www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Category/C91/P60
@kauemoura
@kauemoura 5 жыл бұрын
I like to play these videos while falling asleep, they're like an audiobook stimulating my imagination.
@N0N5T0P
@N0N5T0P 8 жыл бұрын
To go north, you must journey south, to reach the west you must go east. To go forward you must go back and to touch the light you must pass beneath the shadow.
@himynamesfather
@himynamesfather 8 жыл бұрын
GOT a theory: the Titan of Braavos is a steam powered mech moved by wild fire furnaces, that's right it moves and it struts straight into that long night of darkness and blizzards. There's a meltdown and it fucking explodes into a green mushroom cloud. Fire beats ice, not with a whimper but a bang.
@himynamesfather
@himynamesfather 8 жыл бұрын
+himynamesfather do a video on that
@TheStargatefan1000
@TheStargatefan1000 8 жыл бұрын
Why did you comment on your own comment?
@jrantorsvik725
@jrantorsvik725 8 жыл бұрын
Really, really hope Dany goes east to reach the west, would be so much more interesting. So many mysteries we still know nothing about
@SomethingImpromptu
@SomethingImpromptu 7 жыл бұрын
Your videos have gotten waaay better since the last time I looked at your channel. This is crazy thought-provoking. Good work!
@MilA-eh3gf
@MilA-eh3gf 8 жыл бұрын
I love your narration. Combined with these mysterious stories I've got goosebumps everywhere.
@SilveryRow
@SilveryRow 6 жыл бұрын
This is my favourite of your theory videos so far, really fascinating! Admittedly, I've only seen three so I hope they're all as thought-provoking.
@azazeldryland3997
@azazeldryland3997 8 жыл бұрын
Finally, someone makes a video on this
@81Mace81
@81Mace81 8 жыл бұрын
Impressive knowledge of the lore, and kudos for drawing parallels with Lovecraft. Great vid...
@andyperkins838
@andyperkins838 8 жыл бұрын
this is an AWESOME video!! thanks for your knowledge of the song of ice and fire!! Keep the vids coming video bro
@landriel7084
@landriel7084 8 жыл бұрын
I've been telling my friends this forever! Thanks for making this video!
@Imperialistic82
@Imperialistic82 5 жыл бұрын
This is my theory: During The Long Night in Westeros, the dark magic of The Great Other came to Essos as well, and brought a long-lasting eternal darkness to the region. Beyond the Five Forts, there are mythical creatures and cities like Bonetown and Cities of The Bloodless Men, that could be allies to the dark god. With them and maybe wights from The Grey Waste which is a cold region of desert, they came and attacked Essos.
@zacharyvickers1997
@zacharyvickers1997 8 жыл бұрын
Great video my man. Always enjoy your stuff. Keep up the great work!
@leviwensel8572
@leviwensel8572 8 жыл бұрын
Dude your channel just got way better been waiting for someone to do a good video on the 5 fort
@hollyperrault1098
@hollyperrault1098 8 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos i have ever seen from you man! I love the Lovecraft references, deep ones and the oily black stone!!! Awesome!!! Also Asshai is said to be made from these oily, black stones that "drink the sunlight" i would love to see more videos about the far east of Essos such as Yi Ti and Yeen. It also wouldn't hurt to see some videos about Sothoryos and or Ulthos! Over all man, great vid! Keep em comin!
@acetown2263
@acetown2263 5 жыл бұрын
The five forts have always been one of the cooler areas in my opinion. I love hearing more about it.
@made-line7627
@made-line7627 4 жыл бұрын
LOVED this. I rediscovered this channel after listening to the Fire & Blood Livestream with In Deep Geek (which isn't new, but I watched it yesterday and it was great). I'm so happy to rediscover IOIAF. The music, the illustrations, the voice; it all just flows beautifully (and is f*cking creepy at points). There is definitely something deeply mysterious about the Far East of Essos. It's funny...because you hear of Asshai so often, you come to think of it in a different manner than the Far East in general, but it's *the* farthest point; Asshai Beyond the Shadow. Really intrigued with the idea that the Five Forts are another version of The Wall. Great points and ideas in this video. I would love to learn more in the next two books!
@2midgetsinatrenchcoat599
@2midgetsinatrenchcoat599 3 жыл бұрын
I can't get enough of your videos. My understanding of Quaithes strange navigating skills is that she is being literal, and circumnavigating the world would be a tactical and strategic approach that would be completely unexpected by Westeros.
@mistressofnyte69
@mistressofnyte69 8 жыл бұрын
Love it! I've often thought that the far end of Essos and the far north of Westeros were connected in some way. Even if by means of a land bridge. I love this video! I hope GRRM releases more information about Essos and other lands inside of Essos. It's a very fascinating continent.
@kennaaye8596
@kennaaye8596 8 жыл бұрын
Always love your vids Idea's. TY for doing them.
@immaculateknowledge1869
@immaculateknowledge1869 8 жыл бұрын
Really great video! This brings attention to the questions I'm dying to know the answers to. Well done 👍
@princeofchetarria5375
@princeofchetarria5375 8 жыл бұрын
Love your new videos with the pictures- keep it up!! It's all very professional
@sanjay3018
@sanjay3018 8 жыл бұрын
The way you think is much deeper anyother channels who make the theories on GOT or asoiaf I wish you good luck from making a video to writing something of your own
@Xervello
@Xervello 8 жыл бұрын
Wonderful job with the visuals and great insights. It's a fascinating theory.
@Kingmerson
@Kingmerson 8 жыл бұрын
just found your channel and am loving the videos, nice job man. keep up the great content!
@didntknoicouldchangethis
@didntknoicouldchangethis 8 жыл бұрын
I just got The Land of Ice and Fire, and haven't had much time to get deeply into it, but I really hope that we get some answers to these mysteries! GREAT video! I am really looking forward to finding out more about Essos, and it's deeper meaning in the story!
@blackthorne8771
@blackthorne8771 6 жыл бұрын
You pieced some things together I for one was confused about. Amazing! Thank you.
@djrudd8455
@djrudd8455 8 жыл бұрын
Nice one - great voice over, well written and articulated, interesting theory and good selection of artwork :)
@TYTfan
@TYTfan 8 жыл бұрын
Wow, great video. You stepped up your game big time, keep up the awesome work.
@RiceyReviews
@RiceyReviews 8 жыл бұрын
I have always been so curious about the 5 forts. They do kinda parallel the wall. Great video man seriously! :D
@mugendouki
@mugendouki 8 жыл бұрын
I loved this this, I've been wondering about the far east of Essos for a while and would love to see more about it. If you think it's topic worthy that is.
@aaronslade9301
@aaronslade9301 8 жыл бұрын
Great theory man. I'm loving all your videos!
@maverick6270
@maverick6270 8 жыл бұрын
This. Theory. Is. Brilliant!!!
@rjan9719
@rjan9719 6 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what ive been looking for and now after having been a fan of the show for so long, this actually makes sense!!
@StarFlatinum
@StarFlatinum 8 жыл бұрын
I've only recently found this channel after watching tour video on the great other and the white walkers... But i'm glad I've found it, great video!!
@lordseshomaru86
@lordseshomaru86 7 жыл бұрын
this is my favorite theory to date good work!
@marie201151
@marie201151 8 жыл бұрын
Really interesting theory & in the books this may play out, but not in the show. You have a really melodious voice, beautiful.....I could listen to you narrate anything all day....Thanks for the vid & have a nice day:)
@sidtovey
@sidtovey 5 жыл бұрын
Someone should ask George if his world lies on tectonic plates. What if Essos and Westeros WERE joined. Maybe there are small differences between Westeros' and Essos' Others, assuming the latter exists?
@jaysherriff767
@jaysherriff767 5 жыл бұрын
Westeros had its own meteor impacts would make sense thay also have eartquakes and volcanic eruptions all that sort of planetary damage would break up continents... its a retelling of pangea :p
@heir_born4108
@heir_born4108 8 жыл бұрын
lots of people fussing about the sound\voice over. I thought it was great. Your voice is great for story telling. Keep up the good work! We appreciate it :)
@sweetsarah226
@sweetsarah226 8 жыл бұрын
Great food for thought! Thank you for your hard work!
@kerryalanp
@kerryalanp 8 жыл бұрын
I've gotten really sick of theory videos, but yours are very intelligent and well done. Keep it up.
@MC-el2us
@MC-el2us 8 жыл бұрын
Finally a decent video on this subject. Good work.
@winterthekid
@winterthekid 8 жыл бұрын
Great video, great theory, great connections! It works really well, expecially visually confronting the maps! Then oily black stone and ice both don't lool like something human friendly... Thanks for sharing, keep on with the good work!...
@heezmagnif
@heezmagnif 8 жыл бұрын
Great job on this video!
@xamphor
@xamphor 5 жыл бұрын
Great theory! Love the Dany thing. Can't wait to catch up on GoT and see how that panned out!
@CommonSenseWarrior37
@CommonSenseWarrior37 8 жыл бұрын
Magnificent work... You're so right about most thing that I'm starting to think that you know something we don't haha
@kylehartwick6404
@kylehartwick6404 8 жыл бұрын
You and Preston Jacobs need to work together, man. This video combined with some of his are enough to definitively prove some of these theories. Very impressed. Subscribed and will receive notifications.
@Divinemakyr
@Divinemakyr 4 жыл бұрын
The Grey Waste and Beyond the Wall probably connect to the Northern Icecap, and during the Long Night, the Other came down from the east and the west. And heros rose, Azor Ahai, the Last Hero, etc, to defeat them.
@elliottwilliams9221
@elliottwilliams9221 8 жыл бұрын
Great Video as always!
@Cheesuscrust616
@Cheesuscrust616 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I haven't read the books (yet), but have read just about everything written by Lovecraft I could get my hands on. I've often wondered why the similarities in GRR's world are hardly ever mentioned. As I might not have read the books, I'm still enough of a fantasy-geek to have looked at several maps and rely heavily on videos like these for more information on this world (until the series will end and I can start reading the books). Especially when I saw a city called K'dath way way east in between "Cannibal Sands" and an island called Leng to the south of that bit of land made me wonder about that part of GRR's world (and grin a little). Also the religion of the Drowned God and the depiction of the octopus made me think of some Cthulhu cult. Can't wait for more theories on this.
@angelomanning18
@angelomanning18 8 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video my friend. You are appreciated.
@areiosbleidd5139
@areiosbleidd5139 8 жыл бұрын
very clever analisys os scarce source material, grate work!
@brianwalsh5149
@brianwalsh5149 8 жыл бұрын
That's a good idea in relation to what Quaithe said. Nice work!
@mrScififan2
@mrScififan2 8 жыл бұрын
This video is wonderful. It's giving me new insights into the world of ice and fire. I would love to see stories set in Yi ti and the unknown world of Planetos.
8 жыл бұрын
G.R.R. Martin said that no, Westeros and Essos do not met. They are two separated continents.
@QuinnsIdeas
@QuinnsIdeas 8 жыл бұрын
+Antonio Montana yes they are, but that didn't stop the first men from crossing over last time. THINK GUYS!!!
@katherinedrummond2834
@katherinedrummond2834 8 жыл бұрын
+IdeasOfIceAndFire I was under the impression that a land bridge had previously existed but was destroyed (I read this somewhere but I don't remember, sorry). I think you're right about the rest of it, and that a threat will arise from the East just as it is in the North in Westeros.
@Nisroe
@Nisroe 8 жыл бұрын
+Katherine Drummond There was a landpassage once but it was destroyed by the children of the forest to stop the andals crossing. Correct me if im wrong, its been a while since i read the world of ice and fire :D
@Nisroe
@Nisroe 8 жыл бұрын
+Nisroe the first men, not t he andals, sorry
@popcornfilms1
@popcornfilms1 8 жыл бұрын
Didn't the first men cross the arm of dorne?
@Luissv72
@Luissv72 8 жыл бұрын
A reason why the Others might only focus on Westeros the second time they appear? They lost the first time, right? Why divide their forces at all? Also, maybe they don't know how to get through the black stone, or can't? Maybe it's easier to get through the Wall. Maybe they got utterly destroyed in the East and then we're only just beaten back in the west and see the west as an easier target. I mean, the people in Asshai 8,000 years ago were still probably using that crazy magic they still use, and could have been a very powerful threat, and some believe that the Shadowlands are where Dragons originally came from, so that could have been a problem as well. Also, Yi Ti. No description needed. The East might just be too powerful. Honestly, if Dorne can fight off dragons, they can fight off anything.
@Luissv72
@Luissv72 8 жыл бұрын
***** ya, hence how they could fight off the Others. I dont see Ice zombies doing well in a place like Dorne
@Luissv72
@Luissv72 8 жыл бұрын
***** Sothoryos is always an option. I would bet you money that there wouldn't be any snow there
@Luissv72
@Luissv72 8 жыл бұрын
***** well GOT itself is ASOIAF fanfiction to me
@superduperfreakyDj
@superduperfreakyDj 8 жыл бұрын
+Luissv72 What if the five forts are made out of Obsidian? It fits the description perfectly! And Obsidian can kill White walkers so maybe that's why they can't penetrate the line of the Five Forts. Maybe Y Ti found the power that Obsidian holds and decided to build forts out of it?
@Luissv72
@Luissv72 8 жыл бұрын
Freek De Jonghe people wouldve just called it Obsidian or Dragonglass or whatever. It's referenced as like the metal that Asshai was made out of
@davidhagberg6118
@davidhagberg6118 8 жыл бұрын
maybe those sea monster are the one patchface meet
@zarian0014
@zarian0014 5 жыл бұрын
Deep Ones?
@emiliagianova3938
@emiliagianova3938 8 жыл бұрын
That begs the question is the desert in the east really a desert or a snowy desert and we just do not know enough? Could the others be adaptable beings that can shift to adapt to the elements? like great cold ice walkers, great heat desert walkers, and possibly even the marine race?
@Lunar4
@Lunar4 5 жыл бұрын
Antarctica is technically a desert so...
@alexandravanway6460
@alexandravanway6460 5 жыл бұрын
And didn’t Moqorro say The Drowned God is just a thrall of the great Other...?
@adamcicek5198
@adamcicek5198 4 жыл бұрын
Alexandra Van Way moqorro would probably say that of any god that’s not Rhllor
@christianbeaupre7989
@christianbeaupre7989 8 жыл бұрын
Maybe George has a thing for the Landbridge theory. Perhaps there was (and will be) an ice bridge connecting Essos and Westeros in the North. This bridge would only exist during the Long Winter. "You must go East to go West" Danny will be crossing the ice bridge to get back to Westeros, she will not be taking ships. That way she fulfills the prphecy and the Dothraki don't have to go on boats.
@rashad5360
@rashad5360 7 жыл бұрын
That sounds like it could have been a good idea.
@lacien5624
@lacien5624 7 жыл бұрын
During the Earth's ice ages, the sea level was lowered because of all the frozen glaciers everywhere. This created the land of Beringia between Russia and Alaska which allowed humans to cross into the Americas. An ultra winter like what is anticipated to occur in aSoIaF could definitely have the plausibility to create such a land bridge, or at least an ice bridge. It is also known that "Planetos" has northern ice caps (tWoIaF). due to the outdated map projection seen in early maps, these ice caps which look separate on the maps may actually be connecting Westeros to north-eastern Essos. The lands of always winter reach very far north, so the Others (from the ice caps perhaps) are appearing in Westeros sooner. During the massive winter, the ice caps may expand to reach Mossovy/the grey waste or thereabouts quite quickly afterwards, allowing the others passage into Essos. This is all really interesting stuff.
@wankstadresta9167
@wankstadresta9167 5 жыл бұрын
I bet u feel kinda stupid now
@jaysherriff767
@jaysherriff767 5 жыл бұрын
@@wankstadresta9167 i like it how people call it planetos too lol george just calls it the world...
@Medusawithglasses
@Medusawithglasses 8 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'lll be looking forward for that on H.P. Lovecraft's influence. Saludos!
@slycullen7596
@slycullen7596 8 жыл бұрын
This is an awesome video, I doubt they will cover any of the east stuff on the show but on the books definatly
@princeprocrastinate6485
@princeprocrastinate6485 8 жыл бұрын
This is like Deja Vu last week I was looking over The World of Ice & Fire map specifically I was looking at the Five Forts & the lands of the far east & I too wondered if the Lands of Always Winter connect with the far east somehow, it seems likely considering the coincidences between the Wall & the Five Forts & the fact that there are legends of a Long Night & a hero with a flaming sword in the far east, it's fascinating. Another great video, I have now become a subscriber to your channel.
@cza79
@cza79 8 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video and makes total sense !
@markklosowski5383
@markklosowski5383 8 жыл бұрын
brilliant way of looking at this. great video.
@sagapoetic8990
@sagapoetic8990 7 жыл бұрын
Loved your video - the eastern region is too often neglected and the story of the 5 forts is so interesting
@superduperfreakyDj
@superduperfreakyDj 8 жыл бұрын
Maybe the Black Stone they speak of could be obsidian also known as dragonglass ? Obsidian is a form of glass, it's pitch black and just like normal glass it feel greasy and oily when you touch it (this is because glass is actually not a solid substance). We know that IRL obsidian is made due to vulcanic activity, and in ASOIAF it is the same. Dragonstone for exemple is vulcanic and it has lots of obsidian. But volcanos also appear under water, which could be how the Deep ones get their black stones. Also because of Obsidian being a form of glass it doesn't erode which means if you were to build a castle out of it (eg five forts) the castle would never crumble or fall in decay. The fact that the stone is described as smooth just makes it even more plausible that it is a form of glass. Also White Walkers can be killed with obsidian, could this be why the five forts are made out of it? To scare off the White walkers? We also know that obsidian is used for glass candles, could this be the black stone that Bloodstone worshipped? A simple glass candle, maybe Bloodstone saw the others through a glass candle and it made im go crazy and corrupted. Just like Saruman in Lotr who used the palantir to talk to sauron was corrupted.
@LeohTheArcher
@LeohTheArcher 8 жыл бұрын
I doubt it. The Maesters know what obsidian is and yet they describe theses rocks as oily black stones..
@Jim-ti5ck
@Jim-ti5ck 8 жыл бұрын
+Freek De Jonghe Not sure where you got either of the ideas that obsidian feels greasy/oily or that it doesn't erode. Neither of those are remotely true.
@superduperfreakyDj
@superduperfreakyDj 8 жыл бұрын
*MASSIVE SPOILER ALERT* The children made the white walkers, confirmed.
@bdc2320
@bdc2320 8 жыл бұрын
So glad you brought up The Deep Ones. I have a theory years ago posted on Westeros. About Dragons and White Walkers fighting against t bc e Deep Ones. Ahhhhh Memories. I think it us too late in the story to introduce The deep ones as a major player in the story. But sounds cool. :)
@joeysantiago9022
@joeysantiago9022 8 жыл бұрын
hey I really enjoy the videos u do when u read first like this one and the werewolf tree etc.... please do more like them. I have never read the books but am a game of thrones junkie. your very talented with these. please do more like them. thank you.
@Oblit548
@Oblit548 8 жыл бұрын
George really build a huge diverse world. I hope he lives a long time and continues to expand this world he has created.
@wongnigel1158
@wongnigel1158 8 жыл бұрын
+Tyler Gagnon i hope the fat man don't die before we see every thing, it would suck balls if we have to rely upon the show to learn the plot
@tynoguchi7450
@tynoguchi7450 8 жыл бұрын
With the rebirth of magic, allows for ALL magic to be reborn, wouldn't that include these deep ones return, maybe when Aeron is praying for the Drowned God to beseech Euron, and who knows what can happens this prove to be true, me thinks some Cthulhu-esque deep one
@BobbyBaloney
@BobbyBaloney 8 жыл бұрын
All hail Cthulu (and die)
@tynoguchi7450
@tynoguchi7450 8 жыл бұрын
cthulhu vs dragon, GRR Martin, you better do this
@shodiqalibaqir6508
@shodiqalibaqir6508 5 жыл бұрын
What about something like dragonborn or something em....
@juanfranciscomartinezfuent9611
@juanfranciscomartinezfuent9611 5 жыл бұрын
But the deep ones are aliens, not much magic in them
@shodiqalibaqir6508
@shodiqalibaqir6508 5 жыл бұрын
@@juanfranciscomartinezfuent9611 yep that true
@Thecrimsonking01
@Thecrimsonking01 Жыл бұрын
I watched my daughter be born grow to start school , soon she'll be 6 going on seven that's the second grade and many breathes have blown by or swept things away yet the only chill is I feel is from the stillness awaiting the winds of winter.
@luciano.magalhaes
@luciano.magalhaes 8 жыл бұрын
I just discovered your channel and I'm really liking your theories! But if I could give you a suggestion it'd be to state the referral source (where in the books we can find that passage). So we can read/check yourselves and think about it! Keep up the good work.
@korynboyd
@korynboyd 8 жыл бұрын
seriously, awesome job
@bobbobby7093
@bobbobby7093 7 жыл бұрын
thanks dude for upload
@Alohaonalani
@Alohaonalani 8 жыл бұрын
That was really interesting...can't wait for the next installment.
@grainnemckeown1681
@grainnemckeown1681 8 жыл бұрын
This is a really cool theory and makes a lot of sense. It definitely seems to fit. George has responded t it though and said that we do not know how large this world is. That there are most likely other lands between Essos and Westeros. Which makes sense when you align the regions to their real world counterpart.
@jesschne1471
@jesschne1471 8 жыл бұрын
Omg this theory is so good! that would explain a lot tbh
@deadrobin20
@deadrobin20 7 жыл бұрын
This is pretty awesome! Somehow I've never come across this "Apocalypse from both sides of planetos" idea. Otherwise why wouldn't Westerosi move to Essos to escape the long winter? I haven't read AWOIAF so all the worldbuilding explanation was super helpful!
@TheTruthIsGonnaHurt
@TheTruthIsGonnaHurt 5 жыл бұрын
The Grey Waste and the Far North are connected !? Sir, I think you figured it out! Liked. Subscribed.
@vaso28
@vaso28 8 жыл бұрын
Man u seem to know everything , i am very impressed.
@scarletibis3158
@scarletibis3158 8 жыл бұрын
Brilliant.
@keltonpettigrew8518
@keltonpettigrew8518 2 жыл бұрын
Your playlist with LML is an all-time favourite, watched full list 4 times some video’s more 😅
@Lesletube
@Lesletube 8 жыл бұрын
Love your videos!
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