I absolutely hate that you can pressure him into it, but I LOVE that he stands up for himself and prioritises his own feelings
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
I hated the option too, but I love that they GIVE you the option to do it and then slap you in the face with this scene!
@phos599010 ай бұрын
I love that kind of progression. he didn't feel comfortable to reject the player at first, but he eventually stand up for himself. that's so real and I love it
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
@@phos5990 We should reject everything that is toxic in our lives! I hope he teaches some people somethings... 🖤
@hootmess331210 ай бұрын
Same, I am so proud of him in this setup! I hadn't expected the Ace vibes, and now I can't get over how much I love this guy.
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
@@hootmess3312 We all love him so so much! 🌹 And many times those kind of scenes with him, when I explore the dialogs and my stomach turns, cuz I don't actually mean it, I just wanna see the lines and Neil's acting. But those kind of "bad options" make me love him even more, when I reload and choose the "good options" and help him, or hug him and support him in his decisions ... just such a good character! 🖤
@summerkid250310 ай бұрын
Astarion: "this is all a game to you isnt it?" Me: 👩💻
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
🙉
@miame769110 ай бұрын
Lmao
@regabrielexv7 ай бұрын
YOU ARE A TOY
@LayllasLocker6 ай бұрын
LOL
@Charliesmurph6 ай бұрын
😂
@shinyaudino217711 ай бұрын
i love how this feels like a callout to the player. it's saying "hey, that's not the type of game where you can get whatever you want from a character just based on your dialogue choices. these characters act like actual people and your actions will have realistic consequences". it's so meta and i love larian for that.
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
YEEES! There are consequences for your choices... and not pleasant ones! During this playthrough as I try explore all the options, Astarion actually leaves a few times if Tav is stupid and says stupid things to him and wants to hurt his feelings...
@nikkifoster994310 ай бұрын
That what I love about this game. The characters actually act like real people with real agency
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
@@nikkifoster9943 YES! It's very rare in games for the NPC-s to act accordingly to what they would have if they were alive real people :D
@Orion_TheyThem10 ай бұрын
When you literally start up the game, there's a big warning list that pops up with rules and such. One of the first things it says is that the characters have their own thoughts and feelings and your choices will affect them. Negatively OR positively. It's like people skip over that I swear
@gliver254910 ай бұрын
They definitely need more games like this that have realistic human interactions so that a lot of the people growing up aren't socially awkward in the dating scene, we seeing a huge rise in men that are single and sexless for a reason according to recent surveys.
@tiffc10511 ай бұрын
"if this is what you want then I shall provide." As a people pleaser, this line hurt.
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
The whole scene hurts... and teaches a deep wisdom...
@coloraddiction10 ай бұрын
I'm not romancing him so this dialogue all went very differently for me. Seeing that line just now. Damn. I was thinking about romancing Astarion with my manipulator Durge but h o l y f u c k I... don't know if I wanna play manipulator anymore. At least maybe not if I romance him. 😅 I... did not realize that the game was equipped to actually allow me to play manipulator like that.
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
@@coloraddiction I had the same idea, manipulator Durge, Drow, picking all those options that would never pick otherwise in all the dialogs... BUT HERE I got slapped in the face BIG time for roleplaying my Durge, so I reloaded and fixed it all 😇😁
@coloraddiction10 ай бұрын
@resonatinglo Yeahhh I probably would have done the same. Certain lines man. Not seeking to cross. Consent is definitely one of those lines.
@RaisonLychi10 ай бұрын
He sounded to hurt when he said that 😢
@SaphireXari11 ай бұрын
Good for him for standing up for himself. It’s rare for a game to provide character development for supporting characters at the expense of the main character and as a result of the main character’s choices.
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
YEP, True! I agree!
@Tijggie8211 ай бұрын
So true! Absolutely love this actually. Boundaries are important 🙂
@CrystalFlames10 ай бұрын
I am so proud of him
@gliver254910 ай бұрын
As men this hits me hard, we need to have boundaries, no more simping!
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
@@gliver2549 🌹🖤
@jellyfishgenesis11 ай бұрын
as someone who has a history of being coerced into sexual activities when i was clearly not interested, it’s so refreshing to see this sort of stuff being portrayed in popular media WITH CONSEQUENCES for those who choose to do it
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
True! I'm also usually not super pushy and wanting this stuff person, so having it in a game made me explore some of the options that will never happen to me in real life, but YES, There were consequences... so I'm back to being passive and just a friend and a hug type of girl 😁🖤
@alasdairvaler11 ай бұрын
Same, I absolutely love that they showed depth in this issue. And I'm glad that Astarion stood up for himself and said "fuck this shit I'm out"
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
@@alasdairvaler Haha, yes. I love that sometimes the characters are super vulgar and swear like normal people... especially Karlach... Fuck Yeah! 🖤🔥
@user-sf9gs2pg1b10 ай бұрын
True, this could prove as a good learning experience for people. I know that, growing up, a lot of my social learning came from shows, movies, and games. So maybe someone who could’ve been in this situation on either the receiving or giving end, wouldn’t do this.
@anneklj10 ай бұрын
this a 1000 times! I've gone through that as well and have trauma of my own and the way they portrayed it in his case really left a mark on me. It made me wish someone would treat me the way I as Tav am treating him, giving him space etc.
@zaerberus962311 ай бұрын
This is so sad. In the first part he's so relieved and truly thinks that Tav is the only person to ever see him as a person and not just an object. And then Tav hits him icecold with the opposite, saying she just wanted him for sex afterall. His heart must have shattered, it's the most cruel option in the game I feel. I also saved the game and tried some bad dialog choices, but i could never pick this option :( Atleast he stood up for himself in the end...
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
Well thank the gods that we have F8... but also I wanted to see the brilliant writing of the game... After this scene I was inspired to follow Astarion's story more deeply... I kinda didn't care until then, but it gutted me so badly that I had to try better and help this man in any way we can! 🖤
@hugzpls10 ай бұрын
Same! Like god, it hurted me very much so I just loaded a save haha
@lilygoatdemon10 ай бұрын
I'm not a huge fan of Astarion, but the first part of this is actually really sad and upsetting, and I'm glad he decides it's not for him anymore. As someone who is asexual, I feel this a lot, and it actually made me relate a bit to him.
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
@@lilygoatdemon 🖤
@meris848610 ай бұрын
Giving him to the Gur hunter is the cruelest, Astarion dies alone and unloved as a zombie for Cazadors ritual.
@Setisse11 ай бұрын
The look in his eyes before the scene fades to black in the camp says it all. The animators and the voice actor did an amazing job with Astarion
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
For now it's the best most complex game that I've ever played... When so many actors are involved, it must be a masterpiece!
@itsarubiks10 ай бұрын
I love watching Neil Newborn (Astarion's voice actor) let's play through the game too. He and the rest of the cast seem to sincerely enjoy their characters and being involved with the game.
@vampirebottom11 ай бұрын
Larian went so hard making a sensitive and cathartic narrative about a person healing from years of sexual/physical/psychological exploitation and healing from it. The conclusion to his personal quest may or may not have shaken me into turning off the game for a hot minute so I could regroup.
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
I finished his story last night and was shattered... heartbroken because of a game... I understand you completely... Sending my love 🖤
@CareFool_11 ай бұрын
@@resonatinglo I've been (unsuccessfully) trying to recover from it for days... There's no end in sight :')
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
@@CareFool_ Yesterday I took the executive desision to go back to that same night and that same safe and chose the other option where he stays in love with Tav and keep the romance going... I went back 13 hours of gameplay , only to be with him and see what will happen if the romance continued... My heart was broken and I could not handle it any more!
@Shinarydk11 ай бұрын
They did. It's a shame they then went ahead and completely botched it with Halsin. His is just so twisted and uncomfortable once you get the context of everything.
@i-need-space12110 ай бұрын
@@Shinarydkcan you explain? I’m not a huge fan of Halsin so I don’t really talk to him lol
@jvcelynn11 ай бұрын
If you choose a different dialogue option, he says something about “not knowing how to say no.” And it was just the most absolutely heartbreaking thing I’ve ever heard!!!
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
I didn't think to explore the options back then... I just role played my DU... but at some point I realised that Astarion is such an interesting character and started reloading the options to see all the points... But I am far away from that scene now, so I can't really go back there and see what he says... Thank you! 🖤
@Necrovania10 ай бұрын
Throwing up rn reading this. I was curious to know what he says when you ask him why he agreed to it… wanting to take notes on how to respond to ppl who ask this question all the time 🤪
@emmasilver23329 ай бұрын
Yep. Not knowing how to say no is precisely the reason why I stayed with my first boyfriend as long as I did. Now that I've (mostly) recovered, seeing that in others just breaks my heart.
@gypsy952211 ай бұрын
This interaction literally makes me sick, the way he's slowly realizing that this one time Tav wouldn't be like the others turns out to be *exactly* like the others that used him. Ty for posting these dialogue options because I could never do it myself
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
Oh G! Same... I don't want to do it to myself too, but I was so curious to what will happen... I was stabbed in the gut as well when this scene came about... so F8 helped a lot...
@AM5934210 ай бұрын
The scummiest options. 😭
@Heroann11 ай бұрын
I hate the break up scenes because it breaks my heart, knowing that he wants to feel love in a healthy way and not getting it. But it makes me proud that he is standing up for himself the moment he is free, showing that Cazador was not able to break his spirit for freedom after 200 years.
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
He is a very strong man... and yes... he knows what he wants after 200 years and trying not to play some "games" 😇
@Heroann11 ай бұрын
@@resonatinglo Which is remarkable considering what he went through. I love this man and I have a ton of respect for being able to recover, recover in the span of a few weeks, being able to accept help (though relactantly) and fighting against old habits a lot
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
@@Heroann I love him too! I understand you completelly ! 🖤
@nellieshoals11 ай бұрын
@@resonatinglo I love Astarion, but he did start off the relationship completely in a manipulative manner. Aka "games."
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
@@nellieshoals Oh true... so true... and if you Ascend him he becomes even a bigger manipulator and as*hole... but he is still sweet if you play by the fiddle and eventually "finds" himself I believe! 🖤😊
@bonefetcherbrimley774010 ай бұрын
I like how Astarion walks away. He's tall, he's proud, and he don't need no drow mommy. He's a big man, and he stands on his own.
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
So true 🌹🖤
@pj541710 ай бұрын
"I don't think I want you to think of me in terms of sex... I don't know if i want anyone to." That line wrecks me. He's relatable to a painful degree.
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
He is... and then someone who doesn't listen and care comes and says "but maybe you should just learn to enjoy it..." and your heart is broken ... 🌹
@kassjazzy11 ай бұрын
The way his voice turns so cold at 'its almost funny..' just before he dumps you. Writing and voice acting both outstanding in this game
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
Best game ever!
@LionUniverse1411 ай бұрын
This dialogue is heartbreaking but so important. It's unnaceptable to coerce sex from a partner in this game, let alone in real life, it's abuse.
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
Heartbreaking indeed and the heavy feeling in the stomach is still there even if you fix it... but the writing is so brilliant... it's like reading a book, but also being able to explore all the options that the characters have... It's amazing 😁🖤 P.S. For the record... I love the silver haired elf and he is well and happy and loved in the actual playthrough! 🖤
@falconeshield10 ай бұрын
Too many men expect sex from favours. Then they wonder why they're friendzoned.
@furballrage59510 ай бұрын
@@falconeshield Preach. They don't wanna hear the truth.
@Mia19960310 ай бұрын
Let's call it how it is: that's r*pe. About high time people finally realize it. Unfortunately I don't think many straight men would romance Astarion and get to hear those lines from him, and they are the ones that desperately need to finally get it through their thick skulls. People who are most likely to hear this dialogue are the ones that already know the meaning of the words and how it feels to be in Astarion's place.
@themudpit62110 ай бұрын
@@Mia199603 OH it is not r4pe. Settle down. You can't make party A responsible for the duplicitous speech of party B. If Party B says "OK, yes, I'll do it", and then proceeds to participate with full willingness, you're actually expecting party A to be PSYCHIC to interpret that as a "no", and that's just as much bullshit as the coercion you're trying over zealously to call out.
@plejaades10 ай бұрын
god, i am SO glad that this scene is in the game. 😭 and that larian isn't shying away from showing players that they can't just do whatever they want and be rewarded for awful behaviour. astarion's story is about surviving 200 years of trauma and torment, it's wild to me that there are people who genuinely just see him as a sex object and that's all. that's exactly his fear. and all of this is why him ascending is the worst possible ending and not some "kinky fun" route :( astarion needs to be protected at ALL. COST.
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
The writing is amazing ! I agree! More of those games should have consequences in their choices and not bland NPC lines that come over and over... As for Astarion... he is loved and protected in all of my playthroughs... I have a problem, ok! 😁🌹
@MellowMink10 ай бұрын
“This is all a game to you” almost doubles as a fourth-wall message calling the player out too.
@BatmanKisser10 ай бұрын
he sounds so heartbroken like " i suppose if this is what you want then, i shall provide" THIS BROKE ME
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
Yes, it breaks my heart and stabs me in the gut as well 😔. Such a good writing! 🌹
@autoingrement11 ай бұрын
Even my evil character could not have done this to him 😢 I can't be evil to him he's too precious ❤
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
Soo true.. I understand completely! Reloaded 🖤
@ambercat2010 ай бұрын
Im playing as a mutual good character & cannot say no to poor Astarion. His character design reminds me so much of David Bowie it's hard for me to say no to the vampire. He's got such a sad story and back story too 😭😊
@gdonut99029 ай бұрын
@@ambercat20I thought it was just me! I worship David Bowie and astarion always reminds me of him for some reason I can’t place
@emmasilver23329 ай бұрын
I have one evil character who would be tempted to do that to him, but she also knows the power of patience. She plays the long game. Always thinking ten steps ahead. She'd wait to show her true colors until she was absolutely certain he couldn't do anything about it. She'd make him feel safe, make him feel special, let him ascend, and even let him make her his spawn. Anything to solidify his trust in her. Because she knows that once she has control of the brain, she has control of everyone who carries a tadpole, Astarion included. But yeah, all my other characters, even my morally-grey ones, even most of my downright evil ones, wouldn't even dream of doing anything to cause him harm.
@DIO-sv5mv10 ай бұрын
love to see astarion standing up for himself. it's so nice that the game makes you think about how you treat people and isn't just like a dating sim/power fantasy
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
Yep. The writing is astonishing and the consequences are heartbreaking sometimes... just like in real life...
@ShyVioletIsShy10 ай бұрын
Honestly the SCUMMIEST choices you could pick after that heartfelt emotion out of Astarion. Good on him. Good on Larion for writing it this way.
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
It is amazing that slap in the face if Tav plays it an a**hole! Good job Larian, amazing writing!
@vikio4529 ай бұрын
It's amazing how many of these lines and options were written, acted out and animated. I think the majority of people are like me, interested that they exist, but would never actually randomly betray a character they've been romancing for THAT long. Not without immediately reloading a previous save game. So...a lot of people might WATCH these options but I don't know if anyone actually has them saved as part of their playthrough.
@resonatinglo9 ай бұрын
@@vikio452 I think you are right. I explore them and record them , but of course I reload and hug and love and protect Astarion as much as it's given to us in the game! 🍷🗡🖤
@oroontheheels11 ай бұрын
I love the staging during this heartbreaking scene. This emptiness and lighting. It’s like a empty stage. Or a stage inside one’s mind. This lack of decorations puts heavy emphasis on characters Amazing choice.
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
Wow, I've never thought of the scene like that... like in an empty mind. Genius! 🖤 Thank you!
@oroontheheels11 ай бұрын
@@resonatinglo you’re welcome!)
@StyleshStorm10 ай бұрын
Very rare to see a male character flamboyant or not to have trauma like this explored for a character with no laughs but all welps.
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
True... male characters are usually like Halsin... jumping on you in the night and saying they have large... hearts... 😉
@TheMegaAhaaaa11 ай бұрын
Astarion 😢 so good to see him take a stand but sad at the same time. He sounds so.. Betrayed? Hurt? Both.
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
Yes, he does... It's on Tav to know not to push him for sex and understand him better...😔
@theepinkprince10 ай бұрын
He's such a well-written survivor, I relate to him so much. This scene makes me feel so sad. :( He didn't deserve this.
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
I'm just happy that at the end of the day he actually escapes from everything! From Tav, from Cazador, From his past life... He doesn't deserve it and I'm glad that he gets kind of a happy ending in any of the endings he can get. 🌹
@yui-lg2nn10 ай бұрын
"i don't think i want you to think of me in terms of sex. i don't know if i want anyone to" this is so realistic. i love his character so much. when you're someone who has been reduced to an object of desire and little else for so long, you grow appalled of even the thought of people's eyes on you in that way, of them wanting you in that way, when at the end of the day you just want to be a person to them. someone worth love, not just sex. he sums up the words i want to scream so often, in just those two lines, and it means so much to me. he is so so so well written and will forever by my comfort character. thank you larian and neil for bringing him to life.
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
Aand Larian , Neil AND the writer who wrote him and his story. They are incredible! I know what you mean. I like to watch art of him and pics of him before bed just for comfort and nice warm feeling. I love him so so much as well! I wanna see all dialogs and options that one might have in this game. Already at 450 hours and mainly playing around Astarion...🌹🖤
@pinkdruid234710 ай бұрын
Sadly, there are a lot of DnD players who are creeps. While the “bard who just wants to sleep with everyone” trope can be very funny when the player is respectful of everyone’s comfort level…There are unfortunately many players who take it too far and don’t respect the other players or DMs feelings at all. Luckily I haven’t played with anyone like that in any of my games, but I’ve heard horror stories. I feel like Astarion is (whether intentionally or unintentionally) a bit of a slap in the face to people like that. And that’s a good thing. You can’t just get away with hurting people, even if they’re fictional. You can’t be a creep without consequences. If you hurt the characters in this game thinking “it’s just a game” they’ll call you out on it ( Like REALLY call you out on it. The dialogue is written to make you feel guilty about your poor choices and I think it DEFINITELY succeeds), and then sometimes they’ll even just leave, and you can’t get them back unless you reload a save file. I honestly think it’s a fantastic way of teaching those people a lesson, and more games should be like this. Simply don’t let them be gross without it costing them everything.
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
I agree 100%. The writing is very well written and choices have consequences... just like in real life! 🖤
@Algrenion11 ай бұрын
every relationship i've ever been in up until now - with the wonderful man who bought me this game - has been like this. A constant back and forth of performing a "duty", fulfilling a hollow desire... or being guilted and dismissed as prudish & dumb, treated like you don't know your own wants or worse, being outright shamed for them. This as a reaction really hit home for that reason. I've never seen a video game character with so much complexity and nuance and self-respect, especially around sex and romance. Astarion really is a one of a kind character. Larian's writers, designers, animators, voice actors; they should all be so proud of how many nerves they've been able to strike through him, and the game as a whole.
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
I am happy for you! I hope it lasts long. Larian have really done it very well indeed... I'm already at 400+ hours in the game and not planning to stop any time soon.
@Algrenion11 ай бұрын
@@resonatinglo thank you, so do we! and thank you for posting the video, i don't think i would have seen this interaction if you didn't! :) 400+ is incredible haha, i'll be following shortly behind you soon im pretty sure. I only just got Halsin and i'm 120 hours into mine 😭😭
@KoderKat10 ай бұрын
This game is so beautifully written. The topic of consent and sexual abuse is something that no media I've ever interacted with ever seemed to get right. Nothing but respect for the people at Larian for not being afraid to have such an empowering character as Astarion ❤ And thank you for posting this scene! I would never be able get it myself!! 😭
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
Such a nice comment! Thank you! He is indeed an empowering character that probably many people in real life can relate to one way or another. I know I certainly do! 🌹🖤
@tylerguyler10 ай бұрын
He dumped you because you didn't respect him, he dumped me because I turned into a squid man. We are not the same
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
We are not the same! I was roleplaying a DU and i am not sure what you are doing turning him into a squid man 🙉
@pathetic23998 ай бұрын
Either way, he set his boundaries and they have to be respected.
@astarionposting11 ай бұрын
I love Astarion so much. At first I felt "thirsty" about him, but after Act 2 I just want to love and comfort him and make him feel actual happiness
@jacquelinewarner-smith177010 ай бұрын
I feel EXACTLY the same way. I was also super attracted to him sexually. Now, I can't even look at him in if he's wearing anything skimpy. I don't even want to sleep with him. I just want to hold him. 😭
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
I love him so much as well! I finished the game the 4 ways we can with Him , just so I can get more of him! Loving, not loving, ascended and ascended and helping him as his consort 😁 Aaaaand... last night I was done with this "one" playthrough and I started a new one playing as Him, so I can see him face more! But i miss his voice... I can't get enough...
@hurri-db10 ай бұрын
Me too, I must protecc
@cocos820511 ай бұрын
So the funny thing about 2:07 is that, on a meta level, he's not wrong. It literally is a game to us
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
Hahaha... so true 😄😄😄😄
@ComedyLoverGirl10 ай бұрын
Yeah that bit kind of took me out of it too when I chose this option. 😅
@Sweety858710 ай бұрын
I feel like that particular line is something that's a direct jab at the player. It's a two fold statement for sure in my eyes
@user-sf9gs2pg1b10 ай бұрын
This video in a nutshell is why I find it so hard to play evil. Murdering and beheading Karlach has got to be one of the most painful scenes. Betraying the tieflings and having one goblin in the party come up to me, saying he had pried a lute from a girl’s fingers, giving it to me… that one hurt. Instead of a girl playing music in my honor, I got the goblin who killed her giving me her lute. Don’t even get me started on how you lose out on so many companions. Christ.
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
True! For me, it's like reading a book, but being able to see both sides... like reading the story and then having the same book from the other character's perspective. I love Karlach , so I would never kill her, but she left me after I told Minthara where the Grove is. I play Dark Urge and evil at the same time, just so I can kill 2 birds with 1 stone and it's been an interesting playthrough... It hurts... it's very strange not to be good, even tho you are a good person... but it was the same for the Narrator who had to narrate good and bad... Same for the actors who played good and bad characters... Now as players... we get to play good and bad side and hopefully not be judged for it, but just understood 🖤
@littlebear27410 ай бұрын
Yeah the best I can do is a character who doesn't much care about other people (druid/ranger raised in the wilderness style) but is pragmatic enough to know that when you help others they're likely to help you in return. I can't bring myself to actually be evil.
@embroideredragdoll11 ай бұрын
Not gonna lie, those dialogue options felt very coercive to me. I don’t blame a man for putting his foot down, makes a girl wish she did the same.
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
Yep and she should... and Astarion should also! (very good writing indeed)
@pathetic23998 ай бұрын
It was coercive. Tav worded it like they were owed something and they knew Astarion wouldn’t be able to say “No” to them since he’s not used to having the freedom to do it. It’s pretty shitty.
@sunnyhill791910 ай бұрын
I WAS curious what happens if you hit on that option, but couldn't bring myself to actually select it, so thank you for your service. I can't be THAT mean to a bunch of pixels. Played extremely tone-deaf and simplistic Durge, and even he wasn't dumb enough to insist on sex right when Astarion tells him he was sexually assaulted and exploited for centuries. So yes, devs definitely break the fourth wall with "It is all a game to you" here, calling out the player, not the character.
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
Yep, and this "It's all a game to you" hits hard... F8
@MurakamiTenshi11 ай бұрын
Adding this to the list of things not to do in my playtrough 😆
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
Yep, definitely 😁
@errylmoon793911 ай бұрын
Tbh I'm proud of him.
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
Yes... one should stand for themselves... only if we could be more courageous in real life as well...but most of the time we just leave other people dictate our lives without saying the many No-s that we should have said...😔
@peachteagaming11 ай бұрын
Jesus Christ, this was so hard to watch. Poor Astarion 🥺
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
Don't worry F8 does wonders and he is now embracing the love that he deserves! 🖤
@Vixcloud10 күн бұрын
I know I was cringing so hard
@ErinkaPlays10 ай бұрын
"I don't think i want you to think of me in terms of sex. I don't know if i want anyone to." THAT LINE FUCKING HURT THAT LINE RIGHT THERE HIT SO CLOSE TO HOME THAT I WANTED TO CRY JUST HEARING IT i love astarion, he's a character that i relate to so much, and it hurts so much to see this because it feels so so familiar :( And hearing him say "No matter what i say, it doesn't matter. Not if you get what you want," hurts even more because I've been through that to many times. Seeing him stand up for himself really made me hurt even more because he's doing what i wish i did, yet i also feel proud (i know, proud of a fictional character, you can laugh). I love him so much :(
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
Nooo, I love him so much as well! This was long time ago on my first playthrough as a Dark Urge and I was roleplaying it mean girl who kills everything in her way and doesn't care... BUT because of that playthrough I fell in love with Astarion later ofc and now I can't play without him in the party and doing all sorts of content about him. I know, I also want to hug him and tell him to be strong. I am telling it to you! Be strong, we all have our demons... our cages... we have all made choices that we can't F8 out of... and we don't have the courage and strength to stand up for ourselves... That's why we seek for it in games and books etc. I am in my own deep deep hole as well! Sometimes I want to cry and feel pity about myself and people try to encourage me... but right now I am the person to tell you to hold on, breathe deep and then just if you have no way out, then seek a way out in the fantasy world as we all do... I don't know if i'm helping you or making it worse! I'm sorry. I wish I was better at this! 🌹 Much love from my black dead heart from the North of Sweden 🖤
@RomanticGoblin0011 ай бұрын
Damm I think this good example of someone whose gone through sexual trauma.
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
Yep, And is on the spectrum of asexuality maybe 😔😔 Sad truth ...
@RomanticGoblin0011 ай бұрын
@resonatinglo well hold on even after this Astarion does take part into sex. Like after killing Cazador he take you to his grave and could have sex with him there it seems. I can see how Asexuals can relate to him. But to me it seems more so response to sexual trauma and Astarion wanting assurance that he's not just an object. Like the best advice given about Astarion is "Be considerate of his feelings, but don't force him to feel"
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
@@RomanticGoblin00 Yes... basically don't make him a slave to anyone, even to the one he loves... I didn't know about the grave, but I am not there yet. I just killed Cazador and ascended "Yours truly" , so I will find the grave now and do what I must 😁
@fivemoreminutes64811 ай бұрын
@@resonatinglo You don't get the grave scene if you do the evil ascended ending. You only get that if you do his good ending.
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
@@fivemoreminutes648 I guess... I don't understand what you mean but I could not find it anyway. There's only one way for him to ascend... in any other situation he leaves the party... Only maybe if you go to Cazador without him? And then when you are back in the camp and tell him that Cazador is already dead and it's over... is that what you mean by good ending? OR I'm not there yet ... so if it's non of what I just said then it's later in the story somehow... not that there is much after the Lower City 😁
@aerynstormcrow11 ай бұрын
This. This is why I was so pissed he just consented when Halsin offered the whole trio deal. Bc I went to Astarion with hopes to gossip and talk shit about halsin but he just said “okay” go have fun. I was like. YOU ABSOLUTELY DO NOT MEAN THAT, you poor abused man….
@shepythia11 ай бұрын
So true. I can’t stop thinking about this, he said that just because he afraid to lose Tav and we need an option to say him “I don’t wanna sleep with Halsin”. Well because I wanna say to my love about giant elf who hunted me :D
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
Oh god, I never had this... I never talked that much to Halsin so I didn't get this scene, but I understand how it feels... our lovely silver-haired man...
@whiteraven56210 ай бұрын
If it makes you feel better about that route, if you get the Halsin dialog after completing Astarion's quest, he seems a lot more genuinely enthusiastic about you experimenting with Halsin. I'm pretty sure the "Are you only doing this because we haven't been intimate in a while" question doesn't even come up
@shepythia10 ай бұрын
@@whiteraven562 I would like to see this scene
@zyhurbeelzebub62139 ай бұрын
This choice hurt so much...me and friend of mine explored dialogue options just to see where it all went and afterward I was dead set on never chosing it again. This moment right here is the most HOLLOW thing this game has ever made me feel. To see a Character done so well that you can actually feel their pain and sense of betrayal as they realize you saved them just to use them is wonderfully horrid. Wonderful as to just how well it's done, horrid as to how it plays out and how tailored it is, to make you feel like the worst person in the world.
@resonatinglo9 ай бұрын
F8-ting it afterwords is the best feeling, because you know that next you will hug him and tell him you actually care and he will see it in your eyes and in your mind. I will always say that those characters and Astarion especially , it's like in a book but better. You see the story but you can alter it, you can live with them and choose for them... but they are still their own minds and will protect themselves and will react so well! My videos with "The options you will never choose" show it all the time. I am yet to release another one in a week or so and they are always just gutting and so so real... I really wanna hug the screen sometimes and just tell them that it's all right and I've got you!
@zyhurbeelzebub62139 ай бұрын
@@resonatinglo F8 is a life saver but there's still that part of me that's like. "You know what you did! You know what happened. You can never erase the stain on your soul. You'll never forget... Spurning such a tormented soul all to satisfy your curiosity! Have you no heart!?” 😂 Granted maybe that’s just my brain being overly hard and critical with me. Which is why I felt so damn called out when he basically broke the 4th wall. Me and my friend were sitting there going. We can fix this! Right? Just reset and it’ll be like it never happened. Then he said “This is all a game to you.” And me and my friend went. ThE GAME KNOWS! We felt so…so terrible.
@resonatinglo9 ай бұрын
@@zyhurbeelzebub6213 Haha. You are right that part of me knows that I did a horrible thing just to satisfy my curiosity ... and maybe the youtube gods... sometimes I have this internal conversation also when I play the Dark Urge and give in to the urges and kill the set npc... Part of me is there poking it's head and saying... "it's just a game" but you still did a horrible thing to those poor thieflings 😁 Astarion is just a very very well written character who deserves all our love... even the black one... so we can see all his sides 🖤🔥
@alicekravets858410 ай бұрын
Title should be "Astarion dumps you after you cajole him into having sex while he was in a vulnerable state and clearly expressed he doesn't want to"
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
True... I Might change it into exactly that 🙉
@heroinfather31611 ай бұрын
wow, honestly just seeing it makes me sick. this poor man deserves so much better and im happy that he can at least stand up for himself
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
I was gutted too to even do the scene, but I also wanted to see what then game has in store for us... al those heart breaking moments and then all the warm wholesome moments... there must be a balance in the world...
@Netherdrop10 ай бұрын
I couldn't bring myself to pick that option, especially after the conversation just before that, but honestly I'm so glad that if you decide to go that route, he stands up for himself. In general I love the approach they took with him and his whole character arc, he's just a brilliantly written character, and especially in this context it's so nice to see that the game calls you out for your terrible choices and doesn't just brush over them/reward you for them.
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
True! The game is so well written and they had different writes for every companion, so they are miles apart, but stil have to work together. Larian did such a great job, the game is amazing! Makes you feel a lot of deep feels that many other games don't 🌹
@saiyamoru10 ай бұрын
the way his smile drops at 1:29 guts me. i hadn't played an astarian romance yet because i wasn't interested in 'smarmy bad boy' but this video made me reconsider my initial take on him.
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
The beginning of any relationship with him is a bit strange , but he grows on you bit by bit especially when you get to the deep stuff like this one. Of course there are much more wholesome warm and nice options and cut scenes where your heart fills with joy and excitement to help him... Maybe try it, but the deep stuff come around the end of the Underdark if you aim to get his approval from the beginning
@shirazzart11 ай бұрын
everytime i see a tiny bit of a character from bg3 going through actual character development (unlike in loads of games) i have the urge to actually play it
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
Same... I was forced to play BG3 for 2 weeks due to travel and I was abstenantial in withdraw for most of the time... I have an urge to play it 24/7 if I could... But real life doesn't allow it unfortunately 😁🤪
@smudge31234 ай бұрын
if you've got a console/pc that can support it, I HIGHLY recommend. I got it because of the clips I saw on here, but was genuinely shocked at just how good of a game it is. still finding new stuff even on my fourth playthrough lol
@Onryo444410 ай бұрын
I swear, the more I interact with Astarion the more I want to make a thousand different characters to give him ALL the love he deserves in all situations possible. He is such a well written character, the way his initial behaviour and flirty 'nature' are crackled to reveal it was all a shield to keep himself of feeling the pain of his past. It is so rewarding to have him opening his heart and telling you about what he truly feels.
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
I feel exactly the same way... I make a new playthrough and say to myself "this time I won't romance Astarion" and I just can't not see the "Astarion Approves" up there... it just hurts when I see the disapproval... I even made a playthrough where I play as him just so I can adore his face... but I miss his dialogs... Anyway... The game is amazing and I can't wait to play more of Baldur's Astarion gate 3 for the PLOT!
@spoopyoz306110 ай бұрын
Holy shit he just sounds so broken and angry. The mc gave him hope that someone in his life was for once different only to take that and stomp on it. Poor Astarion deserves better.
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
He does! He is loved and cared for , don't worry! F8 is magic
@GothicDarkhellrazor11 ай бұрын
Ooof, I'm proud of how much he grows as a free individual
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
Yeeep, it hurts a little bit when you watch it... It hurt a lot the first time it happened as well
@Danka4210 ай бұрын
So this game also teaches about boundaries and consent? Amazing!
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
Oh boy, it teaches about so many things. If you dare to explore... or watch some videos of course... I get some hate for what "I have done" but we would never see those ugly scenes and the ugly true side of life kinda, if we never dare to explore... Also F8 helps 🖤
@mx.menacing9 ай бұрын
I told Astarion to do the drow thing because my relationship with him wasnt very strong and I figured we'd need it. I actually really loved that my character was told off, it made me realize that Astarion is so much more than meets the eye.
@resonatinglo9 ай бұрын
Yep, so true. Next time give him a chance maybe... just for one playthough 😊
@fiesta969411 ай бұрын
I couldn't even finish this video after trying to watch it 3 times. I could never hurt him like that!
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
I had no idea what will happen... but I was hurt at the end as well... F8
@CitronnelleCiphy10 ай бұрын
Good for him. I did wonder what would've followed that one dialogue option but...I didn't expect something like that. I could never. This was really difficult to watch.
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
Oh it was difficult to watch as well for me... so had to F8 immediately after it! 🖤 He is now loved and caressed!
@CelestialDraconis11 ай бұрын
Good for him.
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
Yes! 🖤
@genevievec.800211 ай бұрын
That's such a good scene. Ome i hope never to encounter, but very well written
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
So true! I wish you to never see it in the game... it breaks hearts... 🖤
@noirangelxd119511 ай бұрын
DAUM! That was great character growth! You go, Astarion!
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
🖤 He grows even more further in the game! If we get there of course!
@ChameLeahn10 ай бұрын
As someone who's asexual through trauma, I felt his pain. I felt sick watching this, and felt his disgust in the end. I'm very grateful for the developers for writing him to stand up for himself
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
I'm sorry. I hope you feel better! 🌹 Because of this character I realised that I am asexual as well! My husband always bugs me for late night stuff and I never actually want. I thought that there's something wrong with me and that I should be like "everyone else" wanting to have smecks, but I dont... and I just needed to see it in someone else... so Astarion helped me a lot to find my true self... in real life... But now I am trapped in a cage that I can never escape...
@ChameLeahn10 ай бұрын
@resonatinglo I'm very sorry, I hope that you'll be able to work out some healthy boundaries, or get out of that cage soon ❤️🩹 It took me a few relationships to learn how to best set boundaries and communicate, as well as learn to finally remove myself (like Astarion did here!) Is definitely not easy, and not something that happens overnight, but I think you're very capable, and I'm glad seeing Astarion's story has helped you with your realization and journey so far ❤️
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
@@ChameLeahn Much love to you! Thank you! Don't make me cry! But I know I can never get out... Maybe in 15-20 years when I am old...🌹🌹🖤🖤
@KBRyou9 ай бұрын
@@resonatingloWishing you the best of luck in your relationship and hoping you can secure some healthy boundaries. I wanted to let you know that it IS possible for a sex-repulsed asexual to be in a healthy relationship with an allosexual. My partner and I have been together for 5 years now and they have never pressured me to do anything I don't want to do. It takes a lot of love and open communication, but it's possible. I truly hope you find yourself feeling safe and loved wholly in your relationships.
@resonatinglo9 ай бұрын
@@KBRyou Aww, thanks from the bottom of my heart! I will try my best for a few more years and then we shall see 🤔
@atduhe10 ай бұрын
Yeah this is why I make sure Astarion is always completely clothed and never make him do anything he doesn’t want to. I took the friend route the first play through and the thought of romancing him now is painful. Poor traumatized vampire needs friends, autonomy, therapy, and validation.
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
And hugs!
@CSketch702311 ай бұрын
i understand exactly what he's saying. it really just seemed like "you knew that i was used, and now you seemingly did that one thing for me and now it seems you just wanted me purely for your benefit." situation
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
YES! And my stupid Tav didn't realise what she is doing ... and hurt him... and got hurt... so I had to F8 and fix it...he is loved gently now! 🖤
@CSketch702311 ай бұрын
@@resonatinglo wasn't this the result of not having him bite the neck of that women who really wanted to get bit? I myself did make him do it because the potion sounded really useful and I had no interest of romancing him anyways.
@scarymonsterzz10 ай бұрын
I swear this is literally some of the most brilliant writing I've ever seen in a game. The subtle fourth-wall break of "this is all just a game to you" actually HURTS and I didn't even do this in my run.
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
Brilliant acting and writing I agree! On every playthrough that I do, I try to do new things and I am always surprised and amazed! The game is unbelievable honestly! And I have played only around Astarion and have 350+ hours... Can't imagine playing all other stories and having them as romance options... it will take me years and I love it 🖤🌹🔥
@scarymonsterzz10 ай бұрын
@resonatinglo Truly! I already have so many new ideas for new playthroughs to romance other characters as well just to see new scenes, and also try out different play styles. So much replay value. I just find it so refreshing that this game's romance/relationship system is actually centered around "rewarding" the player with the best experience possible when you actually treat your partner with respect and kindness. And that the game really "punishes" the player very thoroughly for treating their romance partner like nothing but a toy to be played with and discarded. It's especially impactful given Astarion's background. I hated watching this scene it made me so upset (no hate to you lol) it just made my skin crawl. In a way I almost hate that the game even allows us to do that to him because it genuinely feels so evil and sick. But I'm SO glad the game immediately calls you out by having him permanently break up with you. And basically straight up telling you you're a bad person. Thank you for posting!
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
@@scarymonsterzz 🖤
@Nauta22210 ай бұрын
good on him, you basically manipulated him into sex despite being aware of his sexual trauma
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
True! And I got slapped in the face for that! So F8 and more love and caress for him afterwords 🖤
@mayk590211 ай бұрын
OMG he's so well written... thank you for sharing this video, I don't think I will be able to watch that scene firsthand... 😢
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
It was the first scene that I was shocked and thought I should start exploring Astarion's story and make vids for him... Thank you as well for being here!
@cee8ch10 ай бұрын
Him stuttering when saying “I’m not sure if I should…” that broke me to pieces.
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
Oh gods, yes! The whole dialog is just stabbing in the gut... and still he does it for her (Tav), because he feels things for her... but then realises that it's better not to be lead by the leash of someone! Just great writing and play on Neil's side! Amazing game! 🌹
@noonacosmos10 ай бұрын
thank you for this upload, i shall never ever betray astarion's trust because oh my god that was so painful and sad to listen to!! gotta love his voice actor for giving him so much depth
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
Acting and writing both are brilliant truly! 🌹🖤
@thecheck9687 ай бұрын
2:34 is probably the most painful dialogue. You got his heart to beat again just so he could finally feel a dagger stab through it.
@resonatinglo7 ай бұрын
Soooo true... this scene is always painful no matter how you get to it... all the options just are there to show that without real consent, everything breaks and people get hurt
@SometimesRaven10 ай бұрын
alternate title: Astarion rightfully dumps your ass after you took advantage of his trust and coerced him into sex directly after him confiding in you about his sexual abuse AND telling you he didn't want to have sex right now
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
Also - Tav is an Ahole with Astarion and plays dump so she can get more stuffing... Just roleplaying the mean DUrge. 😔
@madisonhayes798010 ай бұрын
i wasn’t prepared for how badly this hurt to watch, i’m so glad i’ll never get this interaction in any of my playthroughs
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
I will never have it again as well! Hurts like hell... 🌹🖤
@fawnless10 ай бұрын
the way he just sits up in silence, staring into space breaks my heart :(
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
He is safe and protected 🖤
@slimypeach10 ай бұрын
When he said “if this is what you want, then I shall provide,” I think I felt my heart shatter. Went through similar stuff so I relate and I’m so glad he stands up for himself in the end of it.
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
I hope you are ok and you managed to get out and stood up for yourself as well! 🖤I think many many people relate to Astarion one way or another ... and I think he gives us strength to move on or make those harsh decisions that we would have not made otherwise if we didn't see our favourite pixels do it as well! It's good that a game helps people in real world in that way! 🔥
@slimypeach10 ай бұрын
@@resonatinglo It's been around ten years but I eventually got myself out of it and now I'm pretty alright. Astarion is such a good character and they made him so well. 😭💖
@MellowMink10 ай бұрын
“This is all a game to you, isn’t it?” The line practically doubles as Astarion sharing his discomfort with the literal player sitting behind the monitor or television. This whole sequence is a rare contrast to the many games where the player can work for whatever makes them the most satisfied without thinking about the feelings of the other characters, like they’re just objects that solely exist to be quickly exploited for your sexual enjoyment. Here, if you rush to another sexual encounter with someone in a manipulative way and during a very serious vulnerable moment for them, which they clearly aren’t happy with and initially reject, the game doesn’t reward you with more sexual material; it instead cuts to after the sex, and then the game painfully shows you just what that mentally did to the person.
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
So true! And so well written to make you think about what you did... make you feel like you have betrayed ... like you have stabbed with your steel knife in someone's heart... it's so deep... Astarion's story is the best! 🌹🖤
@kellyroth726810 ай бұрын
This interaction got him expressing his true feelings for me. And I didn’t pressure him into sex so now I can kiss him whenever I want ❤ but my relationship with him is exceptional
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
🔥
@ladyart3mis15410 ай бұрын
I adore Astarion so much, character growth is so cool to see
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
I adore him too! I played all the endings with him... can't get enough of his silver hair and pointy ears... 🖤
@sweesbees9 ай бұрын
as painful as this is, i love the catharsis i feel from astarion standing up for himself and walking away. it's one of those things i wish i had the courage to do at certain points in my life, and you get to see it here. and it feels great.
@resonatinglo9 ай бұрын
I agree 100%. It is painful, but I hope it teaches people that you can just walk away, no matter how hard it is... and you can be crushed for 200 years and still gather the strength to stand up for yourself and move along. And yes, I as well WISH I have the courage to do it even now... I am in a cage that I wont get out of for the next 15 years... and I just can't stand up for myself and have to give for others instead of preserving me.. myself... it's just hard... But that's part of why we play games... to be someone else in the game, to make choices that we never would in real life... to save and reload when something goes wrong... unlike real life... Honestly I feel my tears and the squeeze in my throat as I write this... I'm sorry I didn't mean to go there and get so deeply emotional...
@amaikurusu1887 ай бұрын
This has only reinforced my need for a dialogue option saying "Can I hug you?" To party members once you reach enough approval- I NEED TO HUG EVERYONE IN THIS GAME ESPECIALLY ASTARION
@resonatinglo7 ай бұрын
YES! And makes it so much more meaningful the next time you can hug them or make something good about them... cuz you know how he would feel in the other situation
@ErutaniaRose7 ай бұрын
Honestly good for him standing up for himself.
@resonatinglo7 ай бұрын
Agree! He should be independent and not lean of Tav for protection any more
@ErutaniaRose6 ай бұрын
I def agree to an extent--I think he needs a good friend, and support, but he did really well putting up boundaries FINALLY. That crap is hard with that kind of trauma. @@resonatinglo
@Sh3rni_10 ай бұрын
Watching this made me sick and i wanted to cry. I love this man so much and he deserves so much better. I'm so so glad he learns how to say no and stand up for himself 😭
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
True! We love him so much! Don't worry, F8 helped and then he was loved till the end of the game. I am currently in 2 other playthroughs where he will be loved again! 🖤🌹
@LuluBeLulu5 күн бұрын
Wow, the voice acting is SO amazing. You can hear the pain and vulnerability in his voice, its amazing. Especially when you first pressure him and he seems a little caught off guard, a little betrayed, but he pushes it away until after when he can process everything
@resonatinglo3 күн бұрын
GOTY
@MKanakaredes11 ай бұрын
Nooo, don't objectify my boy!!!
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
I don't. I have run through all of the possible branches and ended up with being a friend and a support for him in his toughest moments! I am there with you! He is my boy too, don't worry!
@MKanakaredes11 ай бұрын
@@resonatinglo I know. I just hate it that you needed to do that for video purposes.
@MellowMink10 ай бұрын
…Damn. That was powerful and not a scene I expected to see in this game, but good on Astarion for leaving a toxic situation.
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
YES! The player's actions have consequences and even if we try to role play evil DU or something, it still hurts to watch and to do it. The game is amazing, giving us all points of view, not only the good ones!
@bungouyevsky11 ай бұрын
"This is all a game to you, isn't it?" well, shit...
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
Exactly my thoughts... F8
@Mia19960310 ай бұрын
I think it's a nice meta comment on how certain types of violence we participate in or view in media can bleed into our society and become acceptable if committing it gets us gratification. But in BG3 we get slapped in the face instead. "it's all a game to you" indeed.
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
Indeed! 🖤
@alilaro11 ай бұрын
Astarion didn't have sex with your character here, though. With all the context given through the game and this specific scene, your character takes advantage of his vulnerability and sexually assaults him. A soft yes isnt a yes, especially with how he tells you how he's been abused and doesnt know how to say no until you do something so disgusting as this.
@midnightblackroses11 ай бұрын
It shocked me they included this. And that some players will not see this as it is, assault
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
The game is so well written... and in the urge and curiosity of exploring the options , sometimes I find some disturbing stuff , yes... It's good that this is included and many people will see it and think for a second... or I hope they will 🖤
@alilaro10 ай бұрын
@@resonatinglo Oh, I totally agree! I think there's a way to handle and have scenes like this play out, and most media does it extremely poorly. Astarion's writers clearly care about him and his trauma, and don't make his past of sexual abuse into a perverse spectacle like another company might have. The fact that they really rub your nose in it if you choose options like this makes me happy. Like they're making it known that this is a fucked up option and morally repugnant. I think that's a good thing, and I hope if people truly pick options like this its eye-opening for them.
@LeenaOSullivan7 ай бұрын
So apparently in certain endings if you kill Cazador without first persuading Asterion to not ascend he will also dump you....rather brutally legit hoping you die screaming...And thats if he doesn't try to kill you himself, which is heartbreaking and sad. But him dumping the player here? 100 percent deserved. Kinda nice the game actually has consequences for your actions.
@resonatinglo7 ай бұрын
So true... I also have all the variants of the Cazador fight outcome and in a few of them he leaves screaming and wishing Tav bad things ...
@PaigeyLeighWolf10 ай бұрын
That hurt to watch I had no idea of this whole cutscene!! Thanks for doing it so we dont have to ;n;
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
Thank you too! I was hurt too so I had to F8 immediately after it! 🖤 He is now loved and caressed!
@kelseycain346910 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I could never tell my sweet boy anything, but "i dont want you to do anything you dont want to" but this scene is so powerful. I even planned to ascend him but I just couldn't do it. Not when insight said his eyes were begging for help. 😢
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
Oh, thank you, I didn't know you can insight there for his feels. I first finished a playthrough with him not-ascened and then reloaded the whole game back to the moment and ascended him and finished the game like that. I think the game generally is made to be played a few times at least, so you can see different outcomes and different points of view all the characters. 🔥 Thank for coming to mu channel! Appreciate it, even tho it's on a hard sad video, still 🌹I love the boy as well, as most of us do and will do all for him to be happy. Currently playing as him as an origin on a new playthough 🖤
@kelseycain346910 ай бұрын
@resonatinglo yeah, I chose insight and the narrator broke my heart by telling me what I already knew. He's terrified. And even in my evil durge power fantasy, I couldn't do it. Lol. Actually, HE fixed my Tav. She had to reject the urge and be good for HIS sake. Might still do a baddie run someday but despite my kinky desires, once you see the victim to abuser cycle in action it's takes all the fun spice out of it.
@kelseycain346910 ай бұрын
@resonatinglo I think replaying act 3 after finishing this run is the only way I'd be able to manage. Like damn Larian, these scenes are amazing I just wish I didn't have to torture this angel to get them.
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
@@kelseycain3469 Hah, yes, Larian are going an amazing job here. I replay the whole game all the time. I always try to play differently and do new things and I always end up doing Astarion stuff and looking for his approval. I know how it goes... But after playing a full evil Durge I reloaded from the beginning of act 3 and replayed her as a good and you are right that Astarion does help a lot there! Good talks! Thank you! Really happy to have you. 🖤
@ch0o_choo9 ай бұрын
he looks so sad sitting there when she wakes up :(
@resonatinglo9 ай бұрын
I think he was sad from the evening... from the conversation... but he was just playing the part... before realising...
@jakthesac517510 ай бұрын
Good! I like that the game gives you consequences for ignoring the characters’ own comfort and needs
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
YES! There are a lot of slaps in the face throughout the game... it's the closest to real life i guess... not always having the mindless NPC-s walking around and giving quests... but instead having characters who make you feel great deep emotions... good and bad... stabs in the gut and butterflies...🖤
@nonducorduco735610 ай бұрын
In the dev script this scene is referred to as "forcedsex" "toxicbreakup"
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
Exactly what it is
@jettx1238 ай бұрын
Astarion: “this is all a game to you, isn’t it?” Tav, who’s playing a video game: “👁️👄👁️”
@resonatinglo8 ай бұрын
Yep, one of the few moments they mention "the game" ... love it... even tho it's for a bad thing...
@Ramberta7 ай бұрын
Your Tav has such a cold-hearted vibe for these videos, I absolutely love it. You're a hero for uploading these just so I can get my drama fix without having to savescum constantly
@resonatinglo7 ай бұрын
Thanks! Yes, this is my first ever Tav that I really wanted to roleplay into a mean dark urge .. I think she looks the part. No one has ever said that to me, but it's nice! Thanks! And yes, of course I will upload them! I live for the drama in camp and have to upload all of it! Soon I will be done with Astarion's heart and will start with Shadowheart's or Karlach's... Maybe Gale's...
@meris848610 ай бұрын
"This is all a game to you" so meta but fitting
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
🔥
@jonquilgemstone10 ай бұрын
I love this so much! The game makes it so the player has to actually treat the characters with respect, instead of having them all be puppets. This scene is a masterful example of writing characters who feel real to the audience.
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
So true! And so well written to make you think about what you did... make you feel like you have betrayed ... like you have stabbed with your steel knife in someone's heart... it's so deep... it cuts your gut... 🌹
@user-vs3ll1lo1w9 ай бұрын
Thank you for showing a version of events that I would never have seen on my own. This is my favorite character, and I care about his feelings the most and would never hurt him
@resonatinglo9 ай бұрын
Thank you for appreciating it... we all love him and we are all in pain watching him being hurt! 🖤💔
@user-vs3ll1lo1w9 ай бұрын
@@resonatinglo I haven’t even gotten to this point, I just.. I’ve already picked up spoilers, but I don’t have the strength) stupid work, I can’t play properly. Thank you again
@lkarmal.10 ай бұрын
0:54 you can just hear it :( . That he thought the player wasnt there for just sex with him but turns out they were and its heartbreaking from the line of "I shall provide" 😭 Im so glad he dumped the player and stood up for himself
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
Yes! So true!
@jadeobsession908811 ай бұрын
of course he dumped her, she pushed past his wants for her own
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
So true... one should never push others 😔
@Hiyorin87111 ай бұрын
wow that was so mean and abusive to him poor guy i could never choose those choices
@resonatinglo11 ай бұрын
I agree! Thank the gods there's F8
@nikkialexandra104510 ай бұрын
I am so proud of Astarion
@resonatinglo10 ай бұрын
Thank you! Same!
@omgharajuku5 ай бұрын
I got the relationship result from this conversation, but afterward loaded an old save to go over the different dialogue options. Seeing this scene was heartbreaking 😭
@resonatinglo5 ай бұрын
It is gutting and heartbreaking indeed. Neil did an amazing job delivering the disgust in Astarion towards Tav
@ShadowWitch66610 ай бұрын
Larian studios made the characters feel so real that I can never bring myself to ascend Astarion, I know it's just a game, but I am a bit delusional and I tend to take games more seriously than I do real life (meaby bc real life is not all that great) but I will never do that to him, I'd rather just watch people share their clips, if I am curious about the dialogue. I love Astarion too much for that, bc I relate to him to some degree. He deserves better than this! You stand up for yourself, whoever you are, fictional or real person, don't let people walk over you, it will only crush you