This was such a wonderful comment to read. Suntempo love! If you're in the mood to share, may I ask the full context with the full Tempus collab demand? I've unfortunately been out of the loop with Tempus lately

@@heerotomoe Glad to be of service. As for how I see the fan demand for full Tempus collabs as overwhelming, the most infamous example of that so far happened when Vesper failed to be around for the Tempus Half-Anniversary celebration. The usual Starmin have a lot of patience for him, and a bunch of them think that those who refused to listen to him and gave him flak for missing that celebration were a bunch of insensitive extroverts failing to understand how Vesper has stuff like social anxiety, but as far as I see it, it seemed more like my fellow toxic male introverts putting him on an unreasonable pedestal, expecting him to be all "Bros over hoes" and the like. In other words, what I mean by "overwhelming fan demand" is toxic brotherhood from Tempus's considerable male audience. Not helping is how the popular reaction to guys like those is being toxic in retaliation, and such a reaction really irritates me as a man who used to follow the Live members for gachikoi reasons and found in the Stars members more strength to strive towards being a healthy man. tl;dr: Tempus, especially Vesper, also has to deal with toxic bro fans of them, and as usual, the defense employed by our boys' healthier fans is more toxicity.

I think it is also because they are nearly in their 4th year anniversary that Suntempo fans are already used to them only collabing at most once a year ww Many still wants suntempo to collab more but .. at this point, every one knows how busy each of them are individually. So like if they gave us a cover, everyone will just cry from whatever they prepared. If it comes, it comes. And like Astel said, each of them have their own specialization of their contents.. so they never actually had a "game" where the three of them can actually play as a group. Although once upon a time, they collabed together in Apex w good times

@@theoverlordbear Additionally, a lot of people complain when Vesper doesn’t show up to collabs because he actually spends time with his extended family and wants to be with them. Sometimes, things are planned months in advanced and pulling out of an event like that will actually ruin relationships.

@@annie.V. Family matters like that are definitely something understandable for his more decent supporters even when it can disappoint, if you ask me, so I think the complaints tell more about the amount of supporters who refuse to see more value in family, something we often complain about yet long for. Of course, not everyone's lucky to have a decent family, but at the same time, one can't totally blame one's own jerkassery on others and on circumstances.

Astel leaving a sprinkle of his curse energy at the end lol