thank you.

I want it, you give it to me

Every gaming laptops run hot

@@unknown_personW I bought 2 heatsinks and attached them to the power supply 😁

I bought one, defective broken speakers and windows 11 installer would not find any drives in it, including older NVME drives I tried since it was not finding the one it came with... very annoying. I returned it

What's acceptable? I got 29450

No it's not defective because VMD (RAID controller) is enabled in the BIOS, therefore, it can't see any SSD during Windows installation. You need to download and install F6 VMD driver during installation so it can see the SSD. It's been working this way since Windows NT and Windows 2000.

@@GenTechPC oh im not saying the drive or MB was defective... my speakers were and i sent it back due to the speakers... the drives not loading during install was another thing... and i understand that fix now that you have told me. Thanks

@@GenTechPC just bought a zephyrus and yup ... turning off VMD in BIOS worked. Thanks!

LM does not dry out overtime. It's was just a bad paste job from factory by machine.

@@GenTechPC My 12th gen Scar had a terrible LM application as well, had to do it myself and it was a considerable difference. It's sad paying so much for a high end laptop when the QC is so bad.

@@GenTechPC It might not "dry" but it can definitely bond to your heatsink, which happened to me on an RTX 2070 Sager you guys sold me/ re-pasted with LM. Temps were good until a year or so, but then started throttling really bad. Paid someone to repaste it and they showed me how the LM bonded to the heatsink and there was nothing left covering the CPU die. Basically has turned me off to LM forever on a laptop now so there's that lol.

@@GenTechPC That is exactly what I said. Huh??

the score difference was because of the driver versions. Some early nVidia drivers performs pretty bad.

I think scar 18 is like 20°c degrees cooler on avg? And much more powerful i tink dont quote me

Eluktronics mech 17 CPU still goes up to 90C which is ok and build quality is more like Clevo so you might also want to checkout Clevo / Sager laptops. Asus is major brand and price are higher if you are looking for more premium laptop, poor pasting job by machine but simple re-paste is a easy fix.

@@GenTechPC Mech 17 costs same as Asus scar strix 18. My biggest worry is coal whine especially over longer period. Have you had issues with it on your 16 inch Asus?

​@@Alen1984 coil wine is possible to hear only during start something first 5 seconds. No any problem. Plenty pc Gpu have same issue.

@@mineBMW correct when i open my laptop first time i got crazy CW sound but after updates and so there is no more cw. if i dont open my laptop few days i only hear cw for few second that is all.

Agreed, I have the 18 inch G834JZ with a 4080 and i9 13980HX. It's honestly fantastic so far, after 12 days of everyday use and gaming I have no complaints, however some of the CPU's 'P' cores do hit 100c sometimes during gaming for long periods of time or during stress tests, whilst the package as a whole is usually around 80c-85c. On idle the CPU usually runs at 50c and the GPU 45c. As you said, it's likely every i9-13980HX, they just run hot.

I've also tried undervolting it in BIOS but ASUS only allows an undervolt of -30mV whilst it states that it can go up to a maximum of -80mV but any value above -30mV doesn't work. Also Intel XTU doesn't work currently, so I hope they fix this eventually and allow us to undervolt it a bit more!

i9-13980HX doesn't run hot, it's only poor pasting job and re-paste will fix it. MSI GE78 and GT77 with i9-13980HX don't even reach 90C under load with factory generic dry-type paste.

@@GenTechPC Which do you think is better in performance alone? From your scores you gave on this video and the MSI GE78, the Asus is top in Fire Strike score, slightly higher in Time Spy, but slightly lower in all the others (You didn't do a Fire Strike Extreme for the asus, but you did for the MSI). Is it slightly lower because of the paste job? Also, is liquid metal not always better than traditional thermal paste? I watched your MSI video and the temps were insanely low for only using thermal paste. I'm guessing the fans are faster/move more air than the asus? If its not obvious, I am looking to get one or the other lol.

@@solitarymassacre GE78 has BIOS issue and latest update fixed it. The initial BIOS during launch does not perform well if laptop is plugged-in, instead, it runs at battery mode with lower performance and does not recognized it's plugged-in with optimal performance. It's all fixed now with latest BIOS update.

Indeed.

I mean the poor factory pasting job. LM is good.

LM still the best for CPU but needs applied by hand, it needs to coat a thin layer and then apply the LM on the top. I think it's because Asus's manufacturing is applied by machine so don't get the best result.

mine g16 4090 is doing 21350

Paste by machine and paste by hand makes huge difference.

@@GenTechPC nice, so prove to us. Make a video and prove what you're saying

LM is good stuff, it's just factory paste job not too good.

There are only 3 screws on each fan, remove the screws, disconnect the cable and take out the fan. You don't need to remove the heatsink to take out the fan.

Liquid Metal are still slightly better than PTM7950.

@@GenTechPC But no risk, easy to install, Will get perfect results 100% of the time! Why are not you offering PTM7950?

Run 3DMark and check the score.

Heard razer doesn't last long and has awful customer experience

@@tareqislam1434 I can second on the customer experience, bought a gaming chair and it had a bent rod so the seat sat crooked. Took like 3 months to get a replacement. Zero communication from them and then randomly I finally got it lol. Just bad.

Poor pasting job from Asus factory and probably bad LM material.

it was applied by machine from the factory, apply by hand will improve the performance quite a bit.

@@GenTechPC how are we supposed to apply it manually?

Yeah you can dimm the screen from the FN keys.

It's because VMD (RAID) is enable in the BIOS which Windows 11 installation can't see the SSD in VMD enabled mode. You can either install F6 VMD driver on a USB during Windows 11 installation or, disable VMD in the BIOS.

@@GenTechPC ohh :) raid is enabled when there is only 1 NVMe in it? it only came with 1 1TB NVMe inside, i was expecting 2 512 in raid. im going to order the flow x16 this week, so if i have the same problem I will try that. that is great to know :) thank you!

@@Cryptomined This is the standard for most newer laptops even with 1 drive plugged in. you need to put the drivers on the USB drive and load them when you are at the drive selection screen.

@@solitarymassacre ah ok ill look into that, havent bought a laptop for maybe 3 or 4 years, thanks

gaming performance are similar with same GPU. If you like bigger screen go with Scar 17 or 18. If you like something smaller and easy to carry and same performance go with Scar 16.

It's straight out of the box testing as usual.

@@GenTechPC Then this was tested on stock profile not the Performance/Game profile. Hence the scores you're seeing. The Scar 18 has the same components (just a bigger cooling solution due to the larger size chassis). If you're going to show benchmarks, show them for the use case most people buy these laptops for. We should be seeing a Timespy of around 20.5k aggregate provided you do the simple step of putting the laptop in the correct fan profile (if you're running 3DMark you should be using Performance/Game profile) . Yes this laptop will be a bit hotter as it doesn't have the same size cooling solution due to chassis size but the temps are well within spec. You should also show actual temps of real world use, not just with a thermal camera or at idle. Temps after a 3DMark run would be more useful (especially if you do a 10 minute looping run to thermally saturate the cooling solution -- this will give you scores and thermals that are more indicative of real world use). There are plenty of tech KZfaq reviews of the Scar 18 that use proper testing methodology and consistency in their process to make sure users get accurate data to make an informed buying decision. Way to shill your re-paste service btw :D

Just making sure you know this is a 4090 laptop NOT a 4080

Lmaoo waw

It does. Not sure what kind of LM they are using but the result shows not the best.

theres two different screens for the same model, you might not have the same screen.

It came with RAID-0 factory installed.

Scar 16 doesn't use thermal pads on vRAM.

1100 nits mini LED.

need undervolting from to -80

Yes we do ship internationally.

Yes.

@@GenTechPC when do you expect to ship those?

@@Renverse64 Its 3700 $ in GenTech or Xoticpc, but 4700 $ in Czech Rebuplic

Learn physics, how can 100C melt anything except butter at 32C?

@@GenTechPC I think it was just an expression...

normal use no, but can hear a little bit while benchmarking but can't hear when fan kicks in.

@@GenTechPC So, if I was like just browsing online, wouldn't I hear weird sounds? (obviously it goes from case to case). One last thing, which I think is the most important, that liquid metal that drips out of the chip die, was there already before you disassembled the heatsink system, or did you notice that it spilled after removing the coverage?

@@lucamagni99 it's very quiet 😀

Terrible coil whine on my unit. When the fan is on during the game in performance mode it is barely noticeable, so if gaming is all you do then probably fine. On Silent mode coil whine is really bad. Watching KZfaq or other work on the computer - it's also really bad. I bought it mostly just for playing games, but even with that I'm thinking that I should return it.

@@urulooke Thanks for your experience. As I thought, Asus continues to bring coil whine problems on its ROG series Notebooks, for generations now...

Unfortunately we don't. But our re-paste is next-level. :)

Should have bought it from GenTech where they don't charge you $50 for the repaste!

@@StateofDecayScience didn't hear about them till I saw the video lol

@@GenTechPC what's the cost

@@Renverse64 Check the description bud

It's limited at 4800MHz due to chipset limitation.

Of course, you don't want to buy a office laptop for video editing. :)

4070 is bout 1,999 without tax

No,doesn't support more then 4800mhz ram,and support only nvme gen 4.

@@derekcranson2307 Thanks. Where did you find this info if you don't mind?

I own a Asus scar 18, I tried 64gb 5600mhz and the laptop wouldn't boot.

@@derekcranson2307 ok thanks

This is the short version.

100C can melt butter but nothing more.

@@GenTechPC ok sounded rough. A question. I bought a raider ge77hx 3070ti 20k r23 score. It's still returnable. That said Is either strix scar 16 with either an i9 or the Ryzen version with an rtx 4080 going better than the msi ge77hx?