As an existing asus g703gxr user, I'd have to lean towards the msi just for the circular power port on the Asus laptops, they're just cheap and prone to failure.

As a current Chimera user - what`s wrong with the power ports?

Glad you enjoyed it!

Yeah what's your point?

@@nomhlemoneti4179 That better cooling leads to lower temps, or it's not really better.

MSI has new liquid metal thermal pads with better temps transfer. And on top of what you said the MSI cpu is over 5ghz most of the time.

@@danielmauric8491 Oh ok.

I agreed

What is the ge78?

@@China-pz2zp It's gt77 little brother. It's 1440p screen laptop, better for me I will just play games.

You are rich, it's simply !

That will vary by unit a lot. Bad luck.

In India, Asus has terrible service centres as well. I have to steer clear of their products.

You like laptop asus?

Thanks Kiosh!

I'm conflicted between getting a GT77 or Scar 18. The display on GT77 is terrible for gaming, but in my case I care more about 128GB supported memory capacity. It will probably never be used for gaming so the display on GT77 could be ok. I consider Scar 18 a better laptop between these two for gaming. New laptops with AMD CPU won't support this much memory.

Response time has been confirmed and tested to be 3ms with msi overdrive on, if you aren’t a paid to compete gamer you won’t care, doesn’t matter how good you think you are in the game even if you buy 0.5 ms computer you still playing online where the player with the most expensive fiber internet conexión bullet will hit you first , doesn’t matter if he has a 10 ms monitor or 20 ms, he will win because you playing online lmao

The Gt77 Has a 4k Resolution because it can Handle Displaying games in 4k Its actually One of the best if not the best Gaming Laptop

@@MRALEX9870 The resolution is not the issue. The response time on the display of this laptop is. Look up Jarrod's review to get exact numbers.

@@Vizkos A 3ms Response time is Extremely Fast Pushing 4k Like i said The Gt77 Is regarded as the Best 4k Gaming Laptop available and the best performing Gaming Laptop All together A close Runner Up is the Scar 18 But even that one doesn't Quite compare

MSI did add factory overclock, but you can OC both the Scar 18 and GT77 by about 200+ to the core clock and 1200+ to the memory clock and boost both performance significantly. The Scar 18 with OC can't catch up to the GT77 though, at least not with stock V-Bios and bios.

It would be interesting to see the same test with the MSI being able to use the same wattage for the CPU as the scar.

You should have just ordered from Microcenter. No sales Tax online. And 2-3 day delivery.

how are you enjoying your gt77 4090 so far ?

No problems, works like a speed demon, smooth graphics! I love this thing!!

Fabio! Welcome to the channel! Glad you enjoyed it.

I agree. Fps and cooling matter, not just fps.

Good luck replacing mosfets after 1-2 years on that Scar. Those high temperatures are bad on long term, common issue with asus laptops. MSI stays cooler with 10-15 degrees diff plus the cpu stays over 5ghz with such a low temps. For e-sports go for Asus but for everything get the MSI. Better display, more efficient, cooler, better keyboard and good build quality. I had only MSI laptops and used them for 12-15 hours a day for years and not a single issue. My gp76 has 1.5 years of usage home and work.This laptop never stops and is very very cool on touch with temps lower than 80 in full load.

​​@@adyadelyn2007ut price in India it's more than 5 lakhs bro😢.

That's the problem, 4k is absolutely useless for laptop, even with 4090. You get small icons and fonts, lower performance for higher price. 2-2.5k is brilliant

@inpad 111 The smaller icons is true but I own a 4k laptop and it is not useless to me at all. I actually Hate playing at 2k because I definitely can tell the difference even on 17 inches. Obviously its less performance because it's a way higher resolution but a 4090 can handle 4k very well. As a matter a fact I think 2k on a 4090 laptop is a waste of the hardware because it's overkill.

Is it warm to the touch?

And SCAR 16 has Gsync (I dont know why MSI dont bring Gsync to their laptops) and its a must for me, I cant buy a laptop for $5.300 (top version) without Gsync screen.

true. the scar 16 is definetly the better choice, also becuz of that mini led option, i think that would be the main reason why i would go with it instead of the 18

I'm actually eyeing the new Zephyrus Duo 16. The AMD chip is a beast and walks over 13900HX while consuming less power. Granted it's 600 dollars more expensive but you get the best of the two worlds.

Wait a week or two and see amd cpu benchmarks

@@GizmoSlipTech any amd laptops confirmed to be coming for you to show us?

@@Glebanakonda921 Zephyrus DUO 16 and Scar 17

@@Glebanakonda921 I think I saw a review somewhere where 7945hx is destroying i9 139XX in cinebench

I mean but they got trash customer support if anything go wrong

@@notori-di5et maybe from your experience but I’ve always had good communication and been able to get parts from them right away.

@@prodigy455 1800 shipping included to the Eu not bad pal.

@@karma9007 depends on build , I usually go pretty bare bones and then buy the second ssd and memory on my own. For me the 13900hx is all I need and is more than enough for any game or editing I might want to do along with the 4070. I think people worry about 4k more than they should and how man fps they can get when even the 30 series are more than enough for suitable gaming.

Yes, you could power limit the CPU in manual mode to lower TDP, say 80W or so. That will likely reduce performance a bit, but also reduce temps. Also, undervolting to -80 mv will also reduce temps a bit. Tests were done with -30 mv.

what about the temps ? did they get low ? the Scar's CPU here is 90°c and it's alot, while the GT77 is doing under 80°c, what's wrong ?? I saw the Lenovo 7 with Vapor Chamber and it's way cooler, I think Asus made a mistake with the heat pipes system.

Aorus is sending me one

@@GizmoSlipTech Glad to hear it !

That would be a good comparison

Preference or traveling a lot among other circumstances. For me its personal preference I prefer a laptop that can take the place of a desktop. I do have a desktop but its quite dated at this point however.

yeah, I'm looking forward to that one!

Try -79, someone said it works when -80 doesn't

@@unknownmonkey8661 No it doesn't work it's max -30 still with the latest bios

Interesting idea. Hum…

I only had the Scar 18 for a few days, so I can't do any more benchmarking on it. I am also trying to move through the laptops, and I don't want to spend too long on one laptop or people will get board imo.

@@GizmoSlipTech Well atleast did they added the support? Just let me know that atleast. Btw you did a great job asking them to do so. Thanks

I might include Minecraft RTX in a future test. Is there a good benchmarking map? That's one of the tricky parts. But I'm sure either of these laptops would handle it well.

@GizmoSlipTech And also try out minecraft java edition as it's more tricky on low-end computers while using shaders. I can recommend some path tracing and normal shaders. I think these beasts of the laptops are very powerful, and it will be able to run smoothly on minecraft java edition. 👍

Vegas. It was a very trippy experience.

Scar or MSI probably would be what the choice is between. Alienware has been horrendous ever since Dell acquired it more or less. Scar 4090 has higher vram than the MSI 4080 will have. Thanks to nvidia locking the 16 gigs of vram exclusively to the 4090s.

I am sorry, but I don't think that explanation makes sense in this case as to why the performance is lower. The CPU and GPU are always competing for more watts in every application when there is a strong CPU/GPU dual load. The fact that the Scar 18 had higher CPU wattage while still having good GPU wattage pulled usually is a good thing and should indicate more potential performance, which is why it is odd that we are not seeing that here. It is impressive that the GT77 is pulling similar GPU wattage but out performing with lower CPU draw at the same time. The ability to disable Efficency cores is cool. I'll have to check that out see if it affects CPU bound games.

@@GizmoSlipTech You mentioned scar has better cpu thermals in the beginning but it's not true. I own the machine as well and it sucks when compared gt77 or ge78hx. In your video scar has higher temperatures when the cpu clocks are equal in both machines due to lower wattage on the msi ( scar is even hotter on lower clock speeds) The main idea is to keep at 5.2 or 5.4 ghz in games to have the max possible fps and profit from the machine. SCAR can not keep 5+ ghz without reaching 93 95c most of the time with the current offset then it underclocks to 3.6-4+ ghz range to keep 70 75ish degrees. So you are wrong on your statement as for now. I will switch go ge78hx and gonna return the scar if they do not release a better bios with better undervolting options becauase it's clearly visible that this chip has got a better potential when undervolted.

Probably running both games on native resolution which just so happens to be 4k for the titan and QHD for the scar.

Confucius say, “I need Teww-otal Con-sun-twehh-tion.”

@@jimmyrichards5595 wtf

@@Freshone48 I need Total Concentration! With just a bit of a Chinese Accent 😄

Both will perform very well for E-Sports, though I'd say the Scar 18 display is a little better.

@@GizmoSlipTech Please tell me if there is g-sync in these laptops? Or is he not needed ?

yes

I have a GE76 Raider and I would vote for the latest GE78HX that Brandon(GizmoSlip) has recently showcased on here! Anyway… MSI GT77! Personally, I don’t like the changes that Lenovo made to this years Legion

If you want portabiliti, Legion, but if you dont care about, GT77.

its becuz the scar always pulled alot more wattage on the cpu.

@@lugga413 so Scar 18 has thermal throttling problems? because always is reaching more than 85 grades and sometimes go above 92 grades.

@@giancarlopicassoaraya8390 no , they prolly did that to reduce the CPU bottleneck. Its fine

@@lugga413 Ty sir for the info, now i will buy the Asus Rog Strix Scar 18 rtx 4090 =)

@@giancarlopicassoaraya8390 nice i Hope U will be Happy with it ! Btw If U get it, U could Lower the voltage on ur CPU by a max of 80mv that lowers the Temps and also gives u a longer lifespan , so i recommend Doing that.

Was it the exact same area and settings? I wonder what changed. I did update the bios between the unboxing and benchmarking livestream. Maybe that affected it?

​@@GizmoSlipTech yeah same area/benchmark, the only thing that change was texture on ultra on the unboxing stream, here the texture is on low.

​@@GizmoSlipTech yeah I noticed that too. It performed better the first time and in this test it did worse. Probably the bios update.

The speakers are about the same quality level imo. Like 8.7/10 for me.

@@GizmoSlipTech Man i feel like for the massive premium MSI charges for the Titan, it should have clearly better speakers.

The unlucky folks without the space for a tower but the need for power.

@@knightacedia Or lucky folks who are rich enough to enjoy the luxury experience.

yeah true, but not everyone has the space or need something more portable to want to invest in a desktop setup. Also a lot of people who are looking into these high spec laptops are doing so bc they need a portable workstation as well :) So the portability of the laptop itself is a very valuable tradeoff to many

Yeah. Titan cooling is epic

And the wrist rest doubles as a frying pan so you can cook breakfast while playing games too! Multitasking!!! Jk… its not that bad, but it is too hot for me to want to game on the keyboard for too long.

Are you still leaning towards using the Blade 18 as your daily?

@@GQNERD yeah, I swapped my ssds into it. Enjoying it so far. I do miss the numpad though.