ATGAMES 4K Pinball hits the UK - and I get to try one...after putting it together.

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ATGAMES have loaned me their new Legends 4KP virtual 4K Pinball table. In this video I assemble it, play some games and give my observations.
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00:00 Start
02:18 Assembly
12:22 Castors
13:02 Switch on
16:00 Gameplay
18:14 Controls & observations
22:25 Cheaper than the real thing
23:01 The only issue
25:52 Wrap
26:55 Patreon credits
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@mrrandomperson3106 3 ай бұрын

I will never not smile at that "oh yeah" music when you're peeling plastic!

@DumahBrazorf 3 ай бұрын

still too fast!

@TheNugettinage 3 ай бұрын

*take it off....*

@djsmeguk 3 ай бұрын

The little tiny oh yeah when he does the little tiny film😂

@jimfarrell4635 3 ай бұрын

I hate it. Don't quite know why, but it drives me crazy. Nails. Blackboard.

@AltCutTV 3 ай бұрын

Just play it at 0.25x. ;)

@draygosmith 3 ай бұрын

It looks cool, but I think the only legend in the video was the chap who was hosting it!

@highpath4776 3 ай бұрын

How about a Techmoan themed table, -puppets, odd casette formats , etc !! all on display

@mortenjorck 3 ай бұрын

@@highpath4776 “Shoot the left ramp to check belt tension!” **music stab & lighting fx** “oh no, the rubber's hardened! Hit all bumpers to shop for replacement belts!” **ebay listings flash by on DMD** “This one fits! Increase reassembly bonus to 8x to start power-on test multi-ball!!”

@redlopa1 3 ай бұрын

How we progress! In 2024 a *pinball game company* can ship a *pinball game* which has flipper lag- the one problem that a pinball game should not ever have.

@peterboon8280 3 ай бұрын

ATGAMES monetizes what is FREE. They did not create the pinball emulator same as they did not create any of the emulators for the Arcade games or Flashback series. They put it in a case, branded then sold it. Make your own and have access to every single Pinball, Arcade, Console in the last 40 years and it won't cost you anything other than an online search. Then your not purchasing 15 out of 28,000 pinball tables at a time that they don't even own anyway.

@Minty1337 3 ай бұрын

at least it seems to be a software issue, so it could be fixed in the future, fixing things like that isn't something physical machines can do easily. I of course would prefer a physical one, but I can also see the benefits of an emulator like this, and practically that's probably the only kind I'll ever be able to afford.

@pokey4200 3 ай бұрын

I think as long as people are ok with update on the fly style development of games we will always see rubbish like this sold with the idea being we will just fix that later... I love being able to explain gameplay later, but broken out of the box is not ok

@pokey4200 3 ай бұрын

Expand gameplay*

@Minty1337 3 ай бұрын

@@pokey4200 obviously it's better if it's made correctly the first time, but the solution isn't to make it more difficult... people make mistakes, and even the most well thought out games, products, software, etc have bugs, being able to fix those after you purchased it is great and means you don't need to buy the updated version or retrofit your current one, it's just fixed automatically with a simple download. the solution to the "products being sold incomplete/broken" problem is to simply not buy a product that's incomplete/broken on release, stop pre-ordering, wait for reviews, and use some judgement before simply buying a product. tbh, even in cases where that happens, sometimes it works out like no man's sky, which was overhyped and broken on release, but has become much better since due to updates.

@busterscrugs 3 ай бұрын

we need more live-action Techmoan garage videos like this with the moving camera!

@marcusdamberger 3 ай бұрын

I'm sure he had help from the Misses, she did a good job.

@Techmoan 3 ай бұрын

it’s all shot on the DJI Pocket 3 - the face tracking was used for any motion shots.

@marcusdamberger 3 ай бұрын

@@Techmoan Wow, that's remarkably well done, tracking is pretty good I'd say!

@pauldavis6356 3 ай бұрын

It's a very clean garage to boot!

@galacticboy2009 3 ай бұрын

I didn't realize the camera had moved in any shot, until this comment! Fascinating. The video quality seems very watchable for drone video. I guess they've improved things since the Phantom 3 Pro. That thing puts out such grainy overly sharpened video. Edit: Oops, realized it's a DJI Osmo Pocket 3, not a drone.

@YutubViwer 3 ай бұрын

The input delay seems quite significant at least on the plunger at 19:33

@DraftyCrevice 3 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. Also found the audio and the flippers moving lagging a lot in the multi table demo sequence right before that..

@DraftyCrevice 3 ай бұрын

Oh, I see it is actually addressed later in the video

@Carighan 3 ай бұрын

It's exactly as I expected. The company making the hardware: They did an amazing job. They also know what they're doing, if we're being honest. The company making most tables: They actually care. Zen Studios: As always, they did a massive blunder and want you to pay a ton of money for it. Zen Studios is such a disgrace for the world of pinball...

@joshmcgootermier2301 3 ай бұрын

The joy of constructing a loaner.

@Dsun4456 3 ай бұрын

And then having to disassemble the machine and send it back.

@kd1841 3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 So true!!❤

@phat-kid 3 ай бұрын

@@Dsun4456 when he said look for it as a demo unit i was like, nah they're selling it as brand new lol

@wobblyboost 3 ай бұрын

It was only in the last few minutes it dawned on me he wasn't going to dismantle it and expose it's innards, but then it'd probably only reveal hardware for an XP OS and a couple smart TVs. :)

@restorer19 Ай бұрын

He really should have put a card deep inside the machine that reads, "Tested and repacked by Mat @ Techmoan, serial 00526".

@PXAbstraction 3 ай бұрын

As a long suffering AtGames Legends Ultimate owner, I do not recommend their products. They come with only 3 months warranty despite the high price, they're laggy and underpowered, parts will regularly fail, their support is a joke and they recently released firmware updates that *removed features*. I'm trying to sell my ALU now and will never give them a dime again.

@ntro9347 3 ай бұрын

a 3 month warranty is illegal in most locations.

@PXAbstraction 3 ай бұрын

@@ntro9347 In the US and Canada, it's perfectly fine as long as it's stated as such. Of course, AtGames makes this as hard to learn before purchase as possible, but you nonetheless can. I didn't check this beforehand because I've never seen anything that costs more than $100 and doesn't have at least a one year warranty. But they did it.

@More_Row 3 ай бұрын

Fair enough, doesn't sound ideal

@borninthe70sgaming 3 ай бұрын

If anymore clarification was needed for me to not drop the cash for the 4k. I put my head in my hands when I see KZfaq videos and enthusiasts are saying after a patch "it's definitely better". If I'm going to drop wads I want perfect gameplay mechanics as a minimum on EVERY game or else the company shouldn't wonder why these are not flying off the shelves. People into pinball WILL research and see issues ongoing and unfixed.

@LukeLjJames 3 ай бұрын

Love this Honest truth is the future

@ezoray 3 ай бұрын

I used to work in an arcade years ago and something I noticed about the Addams Family table was if rather than shoot the ball you pushed the ball off its sensor the table would think the ball was stuck and do its thing of flipping everything trying to free it. That included Thing's hand moving over the vault. With good timing you could then shoot the ball and it would hit the hand and drop into the vault, with Gomez saying "Dirty tool old man, I like it". Do it three times and you got yourself multi ball with little effort. I doubt this table has to worry about lost balls, but you could always try it. 😉

@pseudonym3690 3 ай бұрын

How do you push the ball off the sensor?

@ezoray 3 ай бұрын

@@pseudonym3690 you push in the plunger to move the ball forward.

@mc_cpu 3 ай бұрын

Its actually Dirty Pool which is a reference to the Mars Attacks machine, which is itself a reference to Dirty Harry. Yes I am sad!

@ezoray 3 ай бұрын

@@mc_cpu Yes I realised that later 😁 I'm putting it down to sample quality and what my brain thought I should hear. It still sounds like tool to me even though I know better. 🙂

@keithsquawk 3 ай бұрын

One of my favourite tables.

@Thalestr 3 ай бұрын

The "Take It Off" playing for a split second while you pull off the plastic was great.

@FigureFarter 3 ай бұрын

I thought it was playing from another tab

@davidphillips5395 3 ай бұрын

Matt - you always do such a nice job on your videos. Great editing. Smooth content. Engaging monologue that makes the viewer feel right at home. ~ David

@Makeshift_Mulder 3 ай бұрын

The internet connection is _essential_ for seeing a buffering wheel and download bar when you want to play pinball...

@gbraadnl 3 ай бұрын

DRM/verifying ownership?

@Jako1987 3 ай бұрын

Then when the servers are dead after a decade... I hope there is a offline hack or something

@annacurransmotherofmeghanc1841 3 ай бұрын

@@Jako1987You already know the answer and that’s BS, I hate everything about this generation.

@MuffTuglick 3 ай бұрын

@@Jako1987 if you need to connect a pinball game to the internet you already made a bad purchase

@MuffTuglick 3 ай бұрын

@@gbraadnl does that really matter tho? on a pinball machine does that really matter? how does one pirate a physical device?

@markymarkreviews 3 ай бұрын

Didn't think I'd enjoy watching this one but all credit to you for changing the camera angles and videoing the whole set up process. I do like pinball but I ALWAYS get bored after a few minutes of play, no matter how well I am doing!

@rustkitty 3 ай бұрын

If I had room for a virtual pinball cabinet I'd definitely want something less locked-down and more user fixable/hackable than something running Zen's walled garden. But a quick web search says the price is competitive with other virtual pinballs (including the AliExpress offerings) so I guess it's not a bad deal even if you only want the dual screen fully furnished cabinet.

@AndrewStrydomBRP 3 ай бұрын

With the size and price of this thing, I'd rather have a real pinball machine.

@Whatareyouareyou 3 ай бұрын

@@AndrewStrydomBRP good luck getting a good condition fully working real pinball machine (stern, williams, bally, gottlieb) for the price this is going for. A price which is competitive with a high end gpu and you get a load more stuff. You also don't have to maintain the thing which is a ongoing issue with real tables.

@jcardboard 3 ай бұрын

@@AndrewStrydomBRPyou'd think, but they cost several times more.

@AndrewStrydomBRP 3 ай бұрын

@@jcardboardThere's a lot of used but good condition machines for similar money to this, I'd rather have one of those if I'm honest.

@NimhLabs 3 ай бұрын

IT isn't Zen/FX's walled garden... it is AtGames' Walled Garden... at AtGames has a very lackadaisical approach towards people modding and jail breaking their Legends Lineup. They are aware people doing that is a major selling point--they just have enough security on them, to keep their stock brokers from getting worried about people pirating the games from their machines AtGames Legends lineup is generally fairly hackable. They could be more fixable, however. Though... that is its own set of architectural engineering design elements that isn't quite straight forward--and has the weirdest pitfalls

@Niskirin 3 ай бұрын

That lag time on the plunger is really nasty though, you'd think that for a high premium product like that they'd manage much better than the .8s lag on that thing.

@vampcaff 3 ай бұрын

yes because the plunger latency matters so much for game play. if the flippers have that much latency then that's a problem.

@Light-DelaBlue 3 ай бұрын

its atgame after alls they make the most crapy megadrive bootlegs.

@IcecalGamer 3 ай бұрын

also 60 FPS... for over 2 grand in mid-late 2024🤣 You'd need at least 144 for FreeSync+ with adaptive backlight to simulate the "real" thing; at that size the details MATTER, it's not like it's a Nintedon't switch petite scratched screen. Edit: If the Moaner noticed the Shit Shadows and the LAG, imagine someone who lived and breathed Pinball (or games in general).

@russellmusictv4403 3 ай бұрын

4k, but 60hz on barebones rendered tables, with solenoids and optional SSF.

@johngannon 3 ай бұрын

This is not a premium product. Premium vpin cabs cost closer to $8k. This is entry level.

@alwaysfair4991 3 ай бұрын

I wouldn't mind forking out the kudos for this. I spent many enjoyable years in my teens on pinball machines.

@BuzzaB77 3 ай бұрын

you can still get the full sized 1080p one for just £800. I have it and it looks great. No zen studio in sight.

@deano023 3 ай бұрын

Nothing will ever replace a real pinball table in my opinion. What makes this product worse is the "essential internet connection" among other issues like input lag. Overall it's a hard pass for me on this one.

@alwaysfair4991 3 ай бұрын

@@deano023 The need for an internet connection is slightly off-putting. Problem nowadays is the number of arcades are dwindling and the number of companies that make the traditional pin ball machines are become fewer and fewer. I saw a "The Who's Tommy Pin Ball Machine" for sale online a couple of months ago, it's going for just under 9K.

@ExplosiveAction 3 ай бұрын

Great looking machine and a stylish, modern solution for pinball. A real shame about that lag on the title game, hopefully they resolve it via firmware.

@llMarvelous 3 ай бұрын

I mean how hard it could be to assemble a proper computer, connect a couple of screens and controller to it? Turns out it’s out of reach for this guys, I bet some diy youtuber would do it better 😂 Software is poorly optimized, hardware is unreliable, they exist only because competition is not so high

@TheRealDJSigma 3 ай бұрын

Pinball FX had noticeable flipper lag when it launched on Xbox, but they fixed it in an update. It's very disappointing that it's still an issue with this thing though, given that they started shipping these to customers in December.

@BeautifulAngelBlossom 3 ай бұрын

i played it on PC Last Year the MLP Table Has Bad Flipper Lag Back To Future Table would crash .

@dh2032 3 ай бұрын

and how easy is it keep hole of the updated version, after all it emulating, retro tech., and it software support dropped, your stuck back older versions with flipper lag problem,

@Lumibear. 3 ай бұрын

There’s me thinking with the amount of tech needed to imitate the look, sound and feel of a real table you may as well buy the real table, till you showed me how much they cost, and of course you get the ability to change games. Impressive kidult toy, hope they resolve the lag issues (and light & shadows).

@crazyivan030983 3 ай бұрын

Kidult. Love the word :)

@rastaralph7154 3 ай бұрын

Second hand is always the way to buy this type of thing 👍💚💛❤️

@NJRoadfan 3 ай бұрын

20+ years ago the real thing was more affordable. As time goes on, machines get beat to crap and taken out of circulation. Restoring a machine with a worn out playfield, broken plastics, and mechanicals is a bit of an endeavor. From the mid-80s to the present, you also have to deal with electronics and things like leaking batteries and capacitors since they are all computer driven too. Pinball was always a premium product at an arcade.

@3DJapan 3 ай бұрын

Plus with this you get many tables, not just one.

@Zerbey 3 ай бұрын

You can find older EM units for less money, especially if you're willing to buy one that needs a bit of TLC and fix it up yourself (it's not as hard as it sounds). I have a long term idea of buying just the empty cabinet and building a system like this myself, last time I priced it up it was less than $1000 as a DIY project. Need to buy a bigger place first, I have the same space constraints Matt has.

@MattZildjian 3 ай бұрын

machines like this would massively benefit from a high refresh oled panel for maximum motion clarity

@TearlessGosling 3 ай бұрын

Oled would burn in quite swiftly since alot of the elements are static.

@MT-cd7cs 3 ай бұрын

That text we ‘couldn’t make out’ could be made out perfectly.. testament to your setup, equipment and the quality of the screens.

@MT-cd7cs 3 ай бұрын

Also it is very impressive. Can see myself wanting one which was not my thinking before starting the video!

@0osha 3 ай бұрын

Thank you. Proving that even a casual player can see the problems that Zen has. Sadly it's been an issue for a few years now and shows no sign of being updated to fix the issue.

@kielhall8363 3 ай бұрын

Pinball machines have come along way since we were kids are used to love playing pinball it took a lot of skill. Nice to see they have different digital variations. Thank you for this video.

@m2pt5 3 ай бұрын

That table screen would be ideal for emulating vertical arcade games.

@andrewkirk1112 3 ай бұрын

you could on the original legends pinball until they put a firmware update now you can't play them

@m2pt5 3 ай бұрын

@@andrewkirk1112 that's dumb, wtf

@vjcodec 2 ай бұрын

@@andrewkirk1112what?? That’s ridiculous!!

@andrewkirk1112 2 ай бұрын

@@vjcodec yes mate they removed BYOG the games played really good games like truxton , mercs 1943 it's a shame

@martyplaysgames 3 ай бұрын

If it's based on Zen's latest Pinball FX engine, then yes - that has flipper lag issues. And they made everyone re-buy all the DLC tables they'd already spent hundreds on in Pinball FX3 (which doesn't have flipper lag issues). Hardware looks pretty decent though - be interested to see how well Visual Pinball works on it.

@bapt_andthebasses 3 ай бұрын

This is outrageous. I wouldn't pay that much for a digital pinball machine anyway. I want the real deal.

@AltCutTV 3 ай бұрын

So there is no account system? Like an old Nintendo console. Seem like a problem for repair too. What if the board need replacing.

@martyplaysgames 3 ай бұрын

@@AltCutTV I don't know how it works on the ATGAMES tables, Matt would have to answer that, but the standalone version of Pinball FX didn't allow table transfer from Pinball FX3 as it did with FX2 -> FX3 (and that DLC runs into hundreds if you bought it all). They did introduce a discount for owners making it a little cheaper, but if you want those tables again on the new engine, gotta pay.

@SScorpio0 3 ай бұрын

@@AltCutTVThere is an account, and currently purchased tables are tied to it. In the HD machines you had the option to tie a purchase to an account, or registering directly to the hardware. The benefit to registering to the hardware if that if the login servers go down, you can still access your purchases. With the account you are locked out until they come back up.

@qritique 3 ай бұрын

FX3 is fantactic.. Wonder if it would work on this table.

@devolutionary 3 ай бұрын

Cheers Mat on not throwing your back out. I was grimacing just watching you set this up! 😬

@M_B_80 3 ай бұрын

I really enjoy the work you put in to show something the proper way!

@whatamalike 3 ай бұрын

As a SHMUP fan, input lag is the bloody devil incarnate!

@anasevi9456 3 ай бұрын

Also having such terrible flipper lag on the HEADLINING GAME; not some of the pack ins... should be a tar and feather firing no severance offence for whomever greenlit that. There is no way they didnt notice before shipping.

@whatamalike 3 ай бұрын

@anasevi9456 they just don't care as long as they the thing out there, and give vague promises for it to be fixed in a software update...they can frankly f u c k off with this ridiculous model and sense of diminished responsibility

@yatheo2969 3 ай бұрын

It really is a shame Zen hasn't learned anything.

@whatamalike 3 ай бұрын

@yatheo2969 they don't care. As long as they're flogging products to unassuming normies they don't give a toss about concepts as abstract to them as "quality"

@BonnibelLecter 3 ай бұрын

It's nice seeing you have such a good time despite the assembly!

@jasonwakefield 3 ай бұрын

Cheers Matt, just what i needed. Thank you. Goodnight.

@ronpat13 3 ай бұрын

Although I was never a video gamer I am impressed by how much they have changed. Thanks for the video. Cheers!

@Jako1987 3 ай бұрын

That looks like a machine what is nice for 3 days and then not played ever again for a decade. This would be cool for public places propably.

@mikethedigitaldoctorjarvis 3 ай бұрын

It's the same when people buy them indoor exercise bikes,about a week later there is just washing hanging off of it !

@MoultrieGeek 3 ай бұрын

@@mikethedigitaldoctorjarvis My 90's era BowFlex is perfect for drying bath towels...

@mikethedigitaldoctorjarvis 3 ай бұрын

@@MoultrieGeek Exactly !

@Gartoonz_ 3 ай бұрын

@@mikethedigitaldoctorjarvis I know what you mean. My NordicTrack turned in to a Nordic Tie Rack

@LagrangePoint0 2 ай бұрын

@@MoultrieGeek I hang bath towels on my orbitrek, lol

@toonman361 3 ай бұрын

After watching your original video on the Micro pinball game, I bought one. It has been fun to play. I'd love a larger one but like you, I have no room. Thanks for the overview and review.

@FORRESTtheunoriginal 3 ай бұрын

Peeling of protective plastics with the sexy music regardless of how fast it takes to peel them is an incredible running gag, and it always lands.

@TheKurtsPlaceChannel 3 ай бұрын

Very entertaining and fun to watch. Thanks for posting this.

@12gaugebleachdrinker 3 ай бұрын

My parents had a pinball machine when I was growing up. It was a Bally's "Bon Voyage" machine. Loved that thing. One night, I got the scare of my young life when my elementary school Principal showed up at my door and I answered. He was there to do some work on the machine. I used the coin door/lock for storing things that teenage kids hide from their parents. Had an older style(by today's standards) metal toggle switch on the bottom to turn the machine on. Coin mechanism was still on the door, just bypassed, along with a simple metal catch tray. I miss that machine.

@vink6163 3 ай бұрын

Don't leave us hanging, did the principal rat you out??

@12gaugebleachdrinker 3 ай бұрын

@@vink6163Hah, no. Everyone knew I was a pain in the butt as a kid. But it wasn't until later that I started using the lock box for hiding stuff.

@mikb5587 2 ай бұрын

I too used my pinball machine to hide a bong.

@CARLiCON 3 ай бұрын

Their house is a museum When people come to see 'em They really are a scream The Techmoan family..

@adammorrison9705 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing this. I'm happy with using a standard controller with pinball myself, but this would be the dream. That flipper lag would be the hard sell on this.

@6581punk 3 ай бұрын

Flippers always lag as they're electro-mechanical. But seems like they have a bug.

@MrSirViking 3 ай бұрын

With the extras on screen like the scores when you hit things, its really clear that its a screen. But when they are off i just sort of forgot it was a screen and not a real table when watching you play. It really looks that good at least from what i can tell from just watching here. So good job on that. And i am sure they will get a fix out for the lag.

@hoot7588 3 ай бұрын

Agree, I wouldn't want the trails etc, as they make it less lifelike

@michaelmartin9022 3 ай бұрын

Seems like they're all on by default out of the box, though. They think people actually want stuff like that..Are they even rational, thinking, sentient beings?

@mrplant2006 3 ай бұрын

Appreciate all the effort you put into all your videos and this was a great one to see.. lag issue aside!

@daz6195 3 ай бұрын

Your review of the mini is what led me to the AtGames machines in the first place, and I bought the full size HD pinball machine (1080P predecessor to this one). It's an absolute blast! The available games from AtGames are generally very good, but hooking up a PC and using Visual Pinball is where it really opened up and became amazing. Thanks for these reviews!!!

@abdelali9279 3 ай бұрын

16:40 I really like how the flippers move in sync to the Addams Family theme song ,very nice detail!

@Damien.D 3 ай бұрын

It's a feature of the original game. It's random at the end of ball bonus.

@andreasu.3546 3 ай бұрын

I have to say, as a potential buyer (which I am not) it would put me off that they feel unable to provide a half decent screwdriver with a 2000 GBP unit. Heck, I got a number of very decent screwdrivers laying around that came with 80€ CPU coolers. They might actually come across as less greedy if they didn't include a screwdriver at all.

@AccAkut1987 3 ай бұрын

Just bought a higher priced desc chair, and it came with a proper Würth screwdriver for assembly. Sure added to the good impression.

@Mike.Howard 3 ай бұрын

Always a fair & honest review. Keep up the good work!👍

@KubotaManDan 3 ай бұрын

Loved everything pinball, was in my teens in the 1970's. A real pinball wizard at the local pool hall. Man those were the days. Thanks for a great video.

@BabyMissions 3 ай бұрын

Kudos to your camera person... never seen a video where you had someone assist with filming... cool change to your standard format!

@ToTheGAMES 3 ай бұрын

Its face tracking in the camera, no help needed :)

@custardavenger 3 ай бұрын

Be very careful replacing threaded feet with castors. It offsets the loading and can put extra stress on the legs. I did it with a sofa and it was great for a few years then gave in.

@nikkimcdonald4562 3 ай бұрын

Very true. I have a Arcade 1up pinball machine and no way I would put castors on it.

@Comrade2k7 3 ай бұрын

Excellent review !

@gr4y1nu 3 ай бұрын

pure gold review, thank You. if only i had a room to place it, one month's worth of rent nowadays is more than super cool pinball table

@Lonchanney1 3 ай бұрын

Well done lad. That was a proper set up and demonstration. Also you're spot about the Zen tables mucking up what could have been a perfect virtual pinball machine. Again well done 👍👍👍👍

@TheGramophoneGirl 3 ай бұрын

Love the idea of it but in addition to the lag I wasn't so keen on the ball trails - though noticed they could be turned off.

@Gartoonz_ 3 ай бұрын

Yes! That was going to be the deal breaker for me

@Miksa 3 ай бұрын

Ooh, a new Techmoan Garage Session!

@LeShark75 3 ай бұрын

The depth of field from the display is impressive and that's over a KZfaq video. Nice.

@lakrids-pibe 3 ай бұрын

I like the decorative coin insert. It's an important detail.

@m2pt5 3 ай бұрын

I wonder if they'll sell a kit to replace it with a real coin mech.

@crasheffort 3 ай бұрын

@m2pt5 I doubt it since these are not licensed for retail use. Someone could mod a real coinbox on it, but it would be non functional unless atGames updated the software to alow adding credits.

@HomerNarr 3 ай бұрын

I noticed the Name "Zen". So the Basic Game is from a PC Game available on Steam. The Base is free, different tables can be purchased. Availabe Tables range from 5 bucks to 15 Bucks.

@thisisnotachannel 3 ай бұрын

It's on consoles, too.

3 ай бұрын

It's so good to see you being enthusiastic about it! :)

@PapaBradsGaming 3 ай бұрын

Great video!

@norfunk 3 ай бұрын

For £1500+ I'd want the table not to wobble in such an alarming way when just leaning on it. You would think they could brace it a bit more.

@wellfuckyoumr 3 ай бұрын

He put it on casters. It looked solid before then.

@norfunk 3 ай бұрын

Oh fair play I missed that@@wellfuckyoumr

@westsenkovec 3 ай бұрын

"The missus was kind enough to let me sleep in garage for the time being.." 😂😂

@TheSuccessfulHuman 3 ай бұрын

Thank you. I always enjoy your videos.

@shornsparks20005 2 ай бұрын

Absolutely brilliant I think I'm going to treat myself later this year

@landon11 3 ай бұрын

I'm always glad that you give honest reviews. I'm sure they'll update their software and fix the lag issues

@SmokeyEdits 3 ай бұрын

the peeling music cutting in and out tickled me

@leedesigner1977 3 ай бұрын

Ahhhhh fantastic, thanks Matt. Not played one of these things for years! Lee

@rigilchrist 3 ай бұрын

I think this is nicely designed physically - and this is (as ever) a great review.

@ddummer 3 ай бұрын

Love the hasty plastic peeling part... so excited! :)

@MrH77 3 ай бұрын

I spent many hours playing Space Cadet pinball game on Windows 95, so I enjoyed this. This is impressive, but you can't be a real ball game.

@NewFalconerRecords 3 ай бұрын

Loved Space Cadet!

@planetX15 3 ай бұрын

hidden test

@SilverDashie 3 ай бұрын

My first time messing with pinball was with a virtual pinball. I really loved the FirePower table I saw a restoration on and had a blast trying to get multiball in that one. Honestly had no idea it could be so fun playing these things.

@thomaslinville2979 3 ай бұрын

Wow! Such a throwback to the ol techmoan garage!

@stephenstevens6573 3 ай бұрын

You did a fantastic job of editing thisone. Enough footage to present the scope of the job The time lapse portions are well timed and just long enough to significantly present the scope, but knock out the boredom factor. Lol...who says we senior citizens cant do some cool stuff. Thanks for your efforts .

@enp82003 3 ай бұрын

Unplayable "ball out" haha gotta love it.

@EldritchFyre 3 ай бұрын

I've owned fullsize arcade games and pinball cabinets... fun, but cumbersome... this is very cool. Even with the issues... I still want one. Thanks for another great video, Sir!

@DirkHillbrecht 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for another great video!

@grantrennie 3 ай бұрын

I think big Clive would like a prod at one of these as well, and scruffdog (stateside) maybe Louis rossmann , louis could probably resell these as well(he's in Texas)

@JungleJeffarnold 3 ай бұрын

A few screens and a raspberry pie, I could finally do something with all those "flippin" pinball roms in mame . . . I can't be bothered though 😂

@rebootweb 2 ай бұрын

I use to be a service engineer for Bell Fruit and spent a lot of time fixing all those pinball machines you said about. One of my faves was The Getaway with its steel loop where magnets would fire the ball at high speed around it.

@endresutus124 3 ай бұрын

You earned your thumbs up at 0:40 already :D

@x91w 3 ай бұрын

02:54 You should get a glamorous assistant

@MichaelJohnsonAzgard 3 ай бұрын

Brilliant piece of kit and I could spend hours playing with that.

@orugma 3 ай бұрын

I'd love to see more pinball videos!

@ToastTacular 3 ай бұрын

That's crazy! I could hear and see the input lag when you first showed off the table but just figured it was youtube. Most people can adapt to the lag over time but for that kind of money I'd expect next to zero lag.

@avi8r66 3 ай бұрын

some form of 3d glasses and running the table in 3d mode would be kinda cool

@CDNChaoZ 3 ай бұрын

Or if the 3D tech of the Nintendo 3DS can be used somehow.

@RetroVideoArchive 3 ай бұрын

There is a better way use Future Pinball with BAM. It makes the whole playfield 3D with and Xbox Connect to track your head movement. There are videos out there on how to set it up and how it looks. I made one and it looks great. There is a lot of tables out there that works with the software.

@limpfinger12 3 ай бұрын

The fact that you went through this much trouble on a product you don't get to keep is wild

@yumann 3 ай бұрын

I LOVED THIS VIDEO. Thank you Matt

@robotortoise 3 ай бұрын

This is a very impressive and coherent piece of kit. It's very cool they include the HDMI inputs, as things like the Arcade1Up machines had to be modded to work with HDMI. I hope they fix the input latency thing too. This is exactly the type of unit which shouldn't have any input latency! the entire device is self contained!! I must admit the graphics are mind-blowing, too.

@hiramkhackenback 3 ай бұрын

Does it have a headphone socket?

@Techmoan 3 ай бұрын

@BrightSpark 3 ай бұрын

I will be honest: I don't get why companies release products in such blatantly unfinished states. It gives the products bad reviews, it erodes consumer trust, and it cheapens the feel of what's supposed to be a premium product. Yes, it can get patched after release, which is great if reproducable edge cases crop up that weren't covered in testing, but it shouldn't be used as an excuse to ship a product with critical flaws. Maybe it's just because I am a sad millenial that remembers games being shipped on cartridges with no online connectivity, but in my mind, if a game ships, it ought to mean that it's in an as good state as it can be. (Granted, that wasn't even true back then, but then they at least had the incentive that a busted game was gonna be busted forever, as a SNES or PlayStation 1 couldn't exactly burn a patch onto a cartridge or a CD) In fact, a company promising that they are "looking into it" doesn't fill me with hope either, because we have one of two scenarios: Either their testing didn't include testing for latency - which is so basic that I would not be shocked if the tables had game breaking bugs as well, like balls clipping out of bounds or something - or they knew about it already, and shipped it regardless, thinking we consumers would just up up with it until they whipped their wage slave programmers enough to get a patch out of them.

@martybhoy72 3 ай бұрын

The 3d effect on the main screen is incredible

@kennethnielsen3864 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

@ericdanielski4802 3 ай бұрын

Nice video.

@rogertoaster9385 3 ай бұрын

Next time just say first instead of pretending you watched it

@user-xe4zj4ne8j 3 ай бұрын

Your fun, imaginative, smart, broadminded, hard working - I can go on. It takes a lot to come up with what to do, how to do it, actually do it - and present it in an entertaining and informative way. You have all the skills it requires, an ITV or BBC in one person. My life gets better with every weeks video. I presume I'm not the only one...Thanx!🎉

@PowerGlove79 3 ай бұрын

I played the Addams Family table all the time at my local theater when I was 12. Such a great machine

@MarijnRoorda 3 ай бұрын

Yeah, i recently tried a pinball game that was advertised through netflix, and it also had input lag, making it practically unplayable. And input lag was pretty much the first thing on my mind watching your video. In a real machine, its physically connected. Back in the day of the Amiga, there was pinball dreams and Fantasies, and i played those my entire youth. And they had no input lag whatsoever. It's a nice idea, to have multiple machines through the use of a screen, but for 2000 euro's, it's a bit out of my price range for a nostalgia toy.

@mackpines 3 ай бұрын

Love pinball. Never played a virtual one however. Think I’ll stick with the classic machines. It’s just nice to not stare at yet another screen. Great video as always!

@rogertoaster9385 3 ай бұрын

You didn't even watch it.

@RenegadePandaZ 3 ай бұрын

I always thought half the enjoyment of pinball for those who love it, was the mechanical nature of it. If you remove that and just stick it on a big screen with some flimsy buttons on either side, doesn't that kind of kill the point? If you're submitting to virtual pinball already, why not just buy a pinball compilation on the consoles or PC? Heck, both have physical controllers that can replicate actual table controls.

@mrs323 3 ай бұрын

I love that you put in the plastic peeling musac but had it only for a second as it took that long to peel off the stuff😂😂

@TronicGames 3 ай бұрын

More videos in the garage please. Love it.

@mrxmry3264 3 ай бұрын

it needs an internet connection? BIG red flag goin' up!

@macdaniel6029 3 ай бұрын

Exactly my thoughts.

@randomnickify 3 ай бұрын

Like...everything this days?

@mitduschzentrale 3 ай бұрын

Atgames is a shit company.

@charlestaylor3195 3 ай бұрын

So I wonder if this is the route that nostalgia is going to take. It looks real and the physics seem realistic. I've always enjoyed pinball and didn't realize it was popular enough to recreate it digitally. I wonder what else is going to be popular enough to make again. Back when we played these I never even considered something like this. It's good to know that our entertainment was good enough for the future. Thank you.