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ATI Omni Hybrid 5.56 & 300blk | Can a PLASTIC AR Get the Job Done???

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@50Cal_Actual
@50Cal_Actual Жыл бұрын
"Sniffing like Hunter in the White House" LOL. Well played sir, well played.
@jekkjace3817
@jekkjace3817 Жыл бұрын
That gave me a good giggle too
@tnthomesteading
@tnthomesteading Жыл бұрын
Laughed so hard!
@dontask8979
@dontask8979 Жыл бұрын
Other than that and the laptop are Joe's
@rogerray2545
@rogerray2545 Жыл бұрын
Yes sir that was a good one
@cbbees1468
@cbbees1468 Жыл бұрын
​@@dontask8979Traitor Joe's
@StealthSueYou
@StealthSueYou Жыл бұрын
For that money, just get a PSA on sale. It'll last longer and runs quite well in comparison! Though to your point, a polymer setup could be ideal in some situations like you mentioned.
@rebelscumspeedshop
@rebelscumspeedshop Жыл бұрын
And the PSA of today is far better than the PSA of 5 years ago.
@sliderkitz
@sliderkitz Жыл бұрын
Yeah he’s vouched for PSA before. Good to see him go to the extreme budget option. This is literally the cheapest ar out there
@edgarburlyman738
@edgarburlyman738 Жыл бұрын
I saw these for $260 on rural king guns before.
@Roboticdoughbull3k
@Roboticdoughbull3k Жыл бұрын
Anderson manufacturing am15, all metal all the time. Less filling, tastes great, no failures or smoking pipes of any sort and I'm very happy to promote a American made firearms manufacturer.
@weinowei143
@weinowei143 Жыл бұрын
PSA for best bang for the buck and for the win
@sjoracer2934
@sjoracer2934 Жыл бұрын
When you can get a blem psa for 499, there is no reason for one of these. Love the Videos you put out
@IAmBeowulf701
@IAmBeowulf701 Жыл бұрын
When you can print an Orca for under $400, there's REALLY no reason for one of these.
@xavierh.5102
@xavierh.5102 Жыл бұрын
around a week ago you could get complete PSA upper and lower for 330 all said and done.
@itsjustjoe3790
@itsjustjoe3790 Жыл бұрын
Complete Bear Creek rifle or pistol AR can be $349 on sale 2x a year. They also have uppers @$199 complete with BCG for .22LR to 50 Beowulf
@The_Professional_Hobbiest
@The_Professional_Hobbiest Жыл бұрын
currently you can get a blem psa upper and components kit for 300 and a lower for 30 bucks. so if you are smart enough to find a build video somewhere you can have one for 330 dollars
@StandardAmerican623
@StandardAmerican623 Жыл бұрын
Psa actually just had a sale and the had a full Ar for 360$
@leadhead7338
@leadhead7338 Жыл бұрын
Bought the ATI Omni Hybrid multi-cal 5.56 back in 2015'ish and it still hasnt failed me and its my son and wifes favorite gun to shoot, its so light and a great little shooter! the Omni Hybrid is only polymer lower, the Omni Max is with a polymer upper! mine since the lower is the only polymer part its pretty accurate but i dont really shoot over 250 yards
@frigglebiscuit7484
@frigglebiscuit7484 Жыл бұрын
ive got the max, it shoots great.
@TruthGotGunz
@TruthGotGunz 11 ай бұрын
Holy shit I didn’t know that!!! I have the Omni, 5.56 16 inch rifle (I customized TF out of it) and I have a OMNI 300 blackout ARP, Both runs flawlessly, even before I did my upgrades on my 5.56. I’m going to do the same upgrades with my 300 blackout as well. But man I wonder if ours being just lower polymer the reason why ours function well.
@leadhead7338
@leadhead7338 11 ай бұрын
@@TruthGotGunz probably
@nooneyouknow8359
@nooneyouknow8359 Жыл бұрын
when i was in the market for an under 400.00 ar15, the ATI in this video and the RADICAL FIREARMS FR16 were the only choices. I bought the RADICAL FIREARMS FR16 for 395 The lower, upper, and rail system are all aluminium and the current prices i see are still under 400 bucks I threw on a SIG green dot from amazon which cost under 80.00 and perfect working ar with dot, for under 500 bucks!
@grinningDEATH76
@grinningDEATH76 Жыл бұрын
I have well over a thousand rounds through my 7.5 in Radical and have never had a stoppage of any kind even when bump firing. Well worth the price.
@ljguitarwizard
@ljguitarwizard Жыл бұрын
Just got me a fr16 and loving it. Got a buttstock pad and some iron sights. Gonna get a holosun with the acss and a magnifier soon.
@nooneyouknow8359
@nooneyouknow8359 Жыл бұрын
@@grinningDEATH76 i bought mine in january 2023, ive done a little over 4600 rounds, my only problem was magazine related. I had bought old military 30 round magazines. So the rifle, has had no issues. the magazines i bought were so old hey didnt have the anti tilt followers so I'd get jams galore. but other magazines have worked superbly. The rifle, I am amazed with it still.
@chrisromero3803
@chrisromero3803 4 ай бұрын
i also got the radical firearms 400$ AR and its been great
@OldManJeff
@OldManJeff Жыл бұрын
With the sales running on PSA right now you can put together complete ARs for around $320. It's insane.
@johnlombardo7816
@johnlombardo7816 Жыл бұрын
Can you point me in a direction of where to get that ? Even a little more $ but in that range. Always wanted an AR but didn't have the money for the $1000 plus or 1500 models I see around here.. thanks
@jonboy9734
@jonboy9734 11 ай бұрын
@@johnlombardo7816freedom lower is 129$ and a decent upper from them is 300 and some change. It’s what I spent. I also live in sc and just walked into psa and bought it in person.
@reiniergarcia
@reiniergarcia 10 ай бұрын
The legend says he is still waiting for your answer. 😂
@johnlombardo7816
@johnlombardo7816 10 ай бұрын
@@reiniergarcia yep 🤣
@jonasbaine3538
@jonasbaine3538 10 ай бұрын
@@johnlombardo7816 there's probably a factory in china pumping out black market ARs for $50. 🙂
@nitroglycerin26
@nitroglycerin26 Жыл бұрын
Used to work at a gun shop/ range and saw a bunch of these come though. I’ve seen receiver cracks where the buffer tube gets screwed in. Also some versions ship with polymer fire control groups that wear out over time. I also saw a few with loose gas blocks. ATI makes some aluminum ones for not much more called the Mil sport and are slightly better but would go with an Anderson at the bare minimum or a PSA which would be preferred for a dirt cheap AR
@kevinhovis4
@kevinhovis4 Жыл бұрын
I own the 5.56. It was sent back with a loose gas block and a bad bolt carrier group. Got it back and still had problems so I put anderson byo lower parts kit in and got rid of all the plastic pins and plastic trigger group. The upper is still the same but it seems to ride really tight like it's shrinking down. But it does run after a little tinkering
@leadhead7338
@leadhead7338 Жыл бұрын
bought the Omni Hybrid 5.56 in like 2015 and havent had a problem with it and i shoot mine in below 0 weather here in the North East
@frankiejames650
@frankiejames650 Жыл бұрын
ATI started reinforcing the lower with aluminum.
@leadhead7338
@leadhead7338 Жыл бұрын
@@frankiejames650 I bought mine in 2015 and it was reinforced then
@kevinhovis4
@kevinhovis4 Жыл бұрын
@frankiejames650 I have the omni maxx and they do have a metal ring the buffer mounts mounts in. BTW my maxx is pretty accurate at 350 yards haven't been to a longer range to see any farther
@schmelzeroutdoors4426
@schmelzeroutdoors4426 11 ай бұрын
Just picked up the Omni-Hybrid in 5.56. Was a police trade in, came with a fire field multi color/reticle optic already fitted. Took it home and cleaned it very well and so far I personally have no complaints!!
@iceman12451
@iceman12451 6 ай бұрын
There is no way law enforcement would trust this rifle
@charlessandoval3765
@charlessandoval3765 4 ай бұрын
@@iceman12451it’s not a bad one
@iceman12451
@iceman12451 4 ай бұрын
@@charlessandoval3765 looked it up. They are in fact not police trade ins. They were just cheap stuff thrown on a cheap rifle
@SlimBone1105
@SlimBone1105 Ай бұрын
@@iceman12451 They definitely do. They use it as their truck rifle. Got a lot of positive reviews from a cop while purchasing mines from a local gun show
@carsonmontgomery4515
@carsonmontgomery4515 Жыл бұрын
I bought one a few years back as a first AR and I still shoot mine. I've been swapping out parts as I can afford it (new trigger, rail, barrel, stock) but the rest of the parts are original and so far haven't had issues with it. Me personally, I'd say for a beginner on a budget, not a bad rifle to start with.
@eagleone5456
@eagleone5456 Жыл бұрын
You built out a poly receiver set? Honestly with what PSA offers, it just wouldn't make sense to buy anything like this now.
@carsonmontgomery4515
@carsonmontgomery4515 Жыл бұрын
@@eagleone5456 my gunsmith said the same thing lol but I was new to guns and didn't know what I didn't know. Right now I'm saving up for a new upper and lower and basically just morphing the gun into something else lol
@mattfountain7481
@mattfountain7481 Жыл бұрын
Put a .22 lr conversion kit in it for my daughter and it runs good. But nice and light and a great way for her to learn the controls of an AR-15. Don’t have to worry about breaks or cracks with the power of a .22!!
@KyleC2OO7
@KyleC2OO7 Жыл бұрын
I had a ATI OMNI Hybrid 5.56 AR pistol, it ran flawlessly. Probably about 500 rounds and then I got rid of it. But didn’t have all these jams like he has. The real plus is these can be had easily for under $400. With it being the Omni Hybrid it does have metal reinforcements inside where it counts.
@shelomonscales7273
@shelomonscales7273 8 ай бұрын
I have one. Had it since March of this year. Only issue was the mlok hand Raul twisted like his, not the barrel, just the rail. I ran it dry for a couple hundred rounds, it did jam after the first 3 of 30 mag. Put the lucas gun grease that came with it on and now she shoots good. Just use good ammo.
@AlexM-gx8tt
@AlexM-gx8tt 8 ай бұрын
​@shelomonscales7273 literally just got myself a hybrid but the 7.5" model from a buddy that kept it in the back of his truck as an extra hog rifle so it is pretty dirty but still functions, gonna give it a complete clean down and proper oiling along with a new trigger assembly and fresh paint job, for a less than $350 rifle I can see no harm in adding it to my safe 👍
@mattshiznits
@mattshiznits 10 ай бұрын
bought my ATI Omni Hybrid back in 2018. I've had no breakages in shooting, but I cracked my upper at the front takedown pin when I was tightening the barrel nut after replacing the handguard. But it was reasonably accurate for me. No wobbles like the one John showed here. Poly lower still going strong years later
@silverenigma7729
@silverenigma7729 Жыл бұрын
The Ruger 556 was my first AR and as a budget rifle it is unstoppable. Back when I bought mine, it was a higher end low budget AR and i have no regrets!
@hw951
@hw951 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had one of those for nearly 10 years now. It was my first AR. I now have some “higher end” rifles. But I can’t let that one go and I still shoot it regularly.
@diver165
@diver165 Жыл бұрын
I have one. I’ve never had a problem with it. It’s always gone bang and hit the target when I pulled the trigger
@kyleja23
@kyleja23 Жыл бұрын
I love my ruger 5.56
@mookieo8094
@mookieo8094 10 ай бұрын
The ruger 556 is great I’ve got about 3 deers maybe 600 rounds thru it runs flawless deadly accurate last deer was a headshot at 78 yards enough said 💯
@HelterSkelter117
@HelterSkelter117 10 ай бұрын
That was my first AR. Well, not quite true. My first was an M&P 15-22. So I will say my Ruger was my first "real" AR. Got it in carbine length. That thing is rock solid and cycles every round I throw at it. Love my Ruger AR556!
@Edge1775
@Edge1775 Жыл бұрын
just received "The Warrior Poet Way" a couple of days ago and I couldn't put it down, well done!
@hasgunwilltravel6840
@hasgunwilltravel6840 Жыл бұрын
My step dad has one in 300 blk. After throwing away the stock mag, using pmags, and replacing the trigger with a timney it’s worked great the little I shot it (only like 200-300 rounds). He doesn’t shoot but maybe 50 rounds a year combined through all his guns so will last him forever . He just buys guns, ammo, and accessories, then shoots like 5 rounds through it then lets me shoot a little sometimes.
@nickstarks22
@nickstarks22 Жыл бұрын
KE Arms lower is pretty legit. Get the WWSD2020 rifle and you'll be impressed. Polymer lower, carbon fiber handguard and a pencil barrel. Right around 5.0 lbs for a 16" barrel and all.
@Topher7527
@Topher7527 Жыл бұрын
And on the more budget friendly side, their Civil Defense Rifle is also great.
@mattbrew11
@mattbrew11 10 ай бұрын
Whats the full name or part number on this one
@sethrogers8473
@sethrogers8473 Жыл бұрын
Love the shout out to Scott. I'm sure he would love to have you back to try out more guns you'll hate... that 4-bore would be a wild ride
@louiscapasso4452
@louiscapasso4452 Жыл бұрын
You can't go wrong with a PSA. Same price or cheaper if you watch the sales, and very well put together. Do have to shout out Bear Creek Arsenal I have two of their uppers and they shoot great. In fact the heavy barreled 20 inch upper shoots less than 3/4 inch groups at 100 yards. Best 220 dollars I've spent in a long time.
@spicyguacc
@spicyguacc Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen quite a few melt at the front takedown pin. Cool concept though.
@mtnbound2764
@mtnbound2764 Жыл бұрын
i cant understand how the barrel nut is able to lock up tight enough. not to mention when its 400 degrees.
@walkercustoms
@walkercustoms Жыл бұрын
I have and like polymer lowers. Uppers I don't think are there yet. And even with lowers there's a few things that should be done certain ways to avoid failure.
@leadhead7338
@leadhead7338 Жыл бұрын
The ATI Omni Hybrid is only polymer on the lower, the Omni Hybrid Max is a polymer lower and upper not sure if he realizes that, i have the original Omni Hybrid with the polymer lower and its not bad at all other than maybe a hair crack on buffer ring/not sure if its a crack or o blemish but it has steel inserts under the polymer so it should be fine and has been since 2015'ish
@top-hat-roach8116
@top-hat-roach8116 Жыл бұрын
You should do Bear Creek Arsenal (BCA) next . There’s not a huge difference in the price between the two brands for the most part. However, their quality seems to be better plus they are American made and offer what I can only described as a copious amount of options. Everything from 223 to 30-06 in an various AR platforms.
@winnon992
@winnon992 Жыл бұрын
Also you can get a 410 from Bear Creek that’ll fit !
@theblindsniper9130
@theblindsniper9130 Жыл бұрын
The Omni Max I had on my channel over the years I got up to 8k or so rounds. Still ran. Though it was fairly unreliable, every few mags was a stoppage. But it did keep going.
@theblindsniper9130
@theblindsniper9130 Жыл бұрын
@willyberg123 Held zero pretty well, but the front sight block was canted so, the rear sight had some extreme windage adjustments going on. About 4 ish MOA with the steel i normally ran through it.
@DaveL9170
@DaveL9170 Жыл бұрын
The polymer lower plays very, very little role in the viability of the gun itself. 99% of the work is handled by the upper.
@leadhead7338
@leadhead7338 Жыл бұрын
The ATI Omni Hybrid has a polymer lower only, but the Omni Hybrid Max is polymer lower and upper, i have the Omni Hybrid which is a Polymer lower and have had it since like 2015 and its a great shooter, i only had a couple stops with it on the first few mags and its been great ever since, and it darn sure does not twist like his did, i shoot it out to 250 yards all the time and its plenty accurate and when i bought it, it was the lightest AR on the market
@guruthossindarin3563
@guruthossindarin3563 Жыл бұрын
I question this a bit, since the manufacturers of polymer lowers have all had to beef them up quite a bit from the milspec design, in order to stop breakage.
@HoffmanTactical
@HoffmanTactical Жыл бұрын
@@guruthossindarin3563 It's mostly true, but there is still significant stress do to handling.
@obsidianet
@obsidianet Жыл бұрын
@@leadhead7338🤮
@sheepdog457
@sheepdog457 Жыл бұрын
The first polymer lower I had experience with cracked at the area around the rear takedown pin where the material is very thin and not reinforced. The lower/firearm had not sustained any significant trauma which would have contributed to the failure. It had less than 100 rounds through it. An unexplainable and unacceptable failure, in my opinion.
@brettelizabethspore
@brettelizabethspore Жыл бұрын
Polymer is not my first choice, but I like that manufacturers are looking at different resources and build materials. I can see the potential in the future for home builds should the need arise.
@winnon992
@winnon992 Жыл бұрын
Polymer is not my choice in handguns either. Will they be here in 50 or 100 years for my heirs to enjoy ?
@robertshearer6573
@robertshearer6573 Жыл бұрын
Ive had great luck out of PSA, and Bear Creek Arsenal, had an ATI omni and finally changed everything out or other parts, so now my ati is actually a Frankenstein gun made out of many different companies including PSA, BCA, AERO Precision, Bravo company, midway usa, and CMMG. And honestly its the best running ar that i have. But i do like building them myself.
@scallywagswagger2318
@scallywagswagger2318 Жыл бұрын
My kind of guy.
@sedevri864
@sedevri864 Жыл бұрын
I would never choose a polymer upper, but I'd be willing to try the KP-15 polymer lower because its monolithic so it should have fewer structural weaknesses. I would like to see more reviews on the mid/lower end spectrum because the economy sucks and times are uncertain. Might help people who are new to the space.
@thunderfisk309
@thunderfisk309 Жыл бұрын
I first started with polymer Cav-15 lower and while the first generation wasn't trouble free it was replaced with a Gen 2 and ran great, Russell has improved the design under the KE-15 and I wouldn't hesitate to throw on a 5.56 or 300 BO normal metal upper and pit it against a metal lower.
@masonwright8754
@masonwright8754 Жыл бұрын
Have been using the WWSD rifle by KE Arms, sold on Brownells. It has a monolithic polymer lower and metal upper. So far no issues or worries with breaking or accuracy in all my shooting with it. I will be attending 3 days of classes with it soon.... will have to see how it runs there
@exodusz19
@exodusz19 Жыл бұрын
Love that you pointed out that there are some redeeming factors in even the cheapest firearms
@nathanstotts1585
@nathanstotts1585 Жыл бұрын
...I have one...love it.
@fullmetal_vet
@fullmetal_vet Жыл бұрын
Have had mine for a few years now. I love it
@leadhead7338
@leadhead7338 Жыл бұрын
Do you have the Omni Hybrid with only polymer lower, or the Omni Hybrid Max with polymer lower and upper?
@fullmetal_vet
@fullmetal_vet Жыл бұрын
@@leadhead7338I have the one that is steal reenforced polymer upper and lower. I did put a trigger and a ambidextrous safety on it as well as an ambidextrous charging handle, I am left handed.
@OffGridandOutdoors
@OffGridandOutdoors 8 ай бұрын
I've got an older ATI Omni FrankenAR hybrid. Plastic hand guard replaced with 7" metal MLOC. The polymer lower got scraped for a Core 15 CXV with upgraded and tweaked trigger. Runs pretty good now .
@denniscrouch1711
@denniscrouch1711 Жыл бұрын
I've owned the ATI Omni in 5.56 for roughly 5 years. I use Magpul magazines with Federal ammunition. I have to say I haven't had many issues with it. A couple of slight hiccups, but nothing to cry about. It is, after all, a budget gun. I shoot out to 100 yards at times, shooting groups around 7 inches. I've done many, many mag dumps with it. For what it is, I like it. Oh, I use Balistol to keep it lubed up. I also paid $320.00 at the time. Great video, by the way!
@brandtjustsayin
@brandtjustsayin Жыл бұрын
Picked up a Radical Firearms 5.56 AR w/metal upper and lower, m-loc handguard, mil-spec trigger, etc for $379 on sale a few weeks ago. After shipping and FFL transfer fees it was just slightly over $400 total for a well equipped hand-off or SHTF rifle.
@TruthGotGunz
@TruthGotGunz 9 ай бұрын
Radical is trash meat
@joeanderson4474
@joeanderson4474 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see John collab with Hoffman and do a review of the Orca.
@JeffreyPoganySeventySixNinety6
@JeffreyPoganySeventySixNinety6 Жыл бұрын
Same
@epicfortnitekid8536
@epicfortnitekid8536 Жыл бұрын
Hoffman is deadass in the comments lol. Look for the one talking about polymer lower stress and check the replies
@SAUCE_DADDY
@SAUCE_DADDY Жыл бұрын
Haven't had any experience with polymer, but for about $100-$200 more, PSA always has a sale. I love my Palmetto State Armory AR-15
@djbray7
@djbray7 Жыл бұрын
My buddy has one. I genuinely think it's a fun el cheapo gun, but it's scary in the long term. I feel like the pins will walk, the plastic metal/binding does not seem ridiculously rigid, the handguard mating up with the barrel, the castle nut as he described, etc.
@themightycrixus1131
@themightycrixus1131 Жыл бұрын
About 1000 rounds in for me, the only thing bad that happened was my gas block came loose which is a maybe $10 fix.
@alhovde19
@alhovde19 Жыл бұрын
To be fair the first thing you should have done was properly torque and stake the castle nut. Then properly torgue the barrel nut and handguard clamp screws (with loctite). THEN throw them in the dumpster.
@trulsrohk1
@trulsrohk1 Жыл бұрын
🤣
@JordanJimmyDavison
@JordanJimmyDavison Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@jth_printed_designs
@jth_printed_designs Жыл бұрын
Hoffman Tactical has a 3D printed AR design, I'm sure an injection molded polymer gun is fine.
@BenReese
@BenReese Жыл бұрын
Hoffman redesign the lower off the specs just for 3D printing. The polymer lower in this video appears to be the standard metal design just in plastic. Same with the upper. The Orca is what John should check out and give his opinion on though. Polymer upper and lower, but designed to be stronger where needed.
@Xpnential999999
@Xpnential999999 Жыл бұрын
Brownell’s is selling KE Arms lowers for $69.99 on sale. No need to spend time/effort to print anything unless you wish to do so to remain off a list.
@davidhague1619
@davidhague1619 3 ай бұрын
Bought a Ruger AR556 in 2020 for just north of 600 and for a budget AR it has been GREAT. A little overpasses,it has been 100 % reliable
@jocularitch1231
@jocularitch1231 Жыл бұрын
I have 2 lowers from Tennessee Arms that have worked really well. The one hasn't seen a lot of rounds yet, but the other has had several thousand. Like, John, mentions the upper is what takes the force. Might not mean much coming from me, but I recommend Tennesse Arms if you're looking for a polymer lower. I haven't tested the durability by throwing em around or jumping on them, but there are videos of them being run over by trucks.
@the_og_rocklee_154
@the_og_rocklee_154 Жыл бұрын
John did Scott dirty😂
@Joel.Leavelle
@Joel.Leavelle Жыл бұрын
I'd really like to see you make a video with Hoffman Tactical, who designed the Orca 3d printed AR15. Leaps have been made with the 2A 3D printing community, and I'd argue Hoffman is among the leaders in innovative design. It would be a cool spotlight on the community, showing the advancements made by comparing some of the earlier designs, and talk about the challenges that spurred changes that led to the current iteration. Maybe some stress and accuracy testing, as well as talking about improvements that could be made going forward without losing the ability for it to be made by the average citizen in spite of a tyrannical government, which I would argue is the most important aspect of 3d printed arms.
@richardoliver1468
@richardoliver1468 8 ай бұрын
Back in February of this year I bought the ATI MilSport chambered in 5.56. The first time I shot it,it failed to eject, and tried to reload which caused a follow up round to get jammed. I cleared it and tried again, and once again had the same issue. Upon looking at one of the cleared casings, I noticed that ejector was actually chewing on the rim. I took it back to my FFL where I purchased it. They tested it using some of the Irma ammo I was trying. The issue was with the ammo. Since then I have had no more issues with any other ammo. I will be keep my ATI, and enjoy shooting it.
@Normjohanson
@Normjohanson 9 ай бұрын
I built one from parts. After a bit of fitting it runs pretty well. The upper has a metal insert in the front for the barrel nut to retain the extension. I lapped the inside of the upper and the front of the receiver true. The lower also has a metal insert in the rear to mount the buffer tube. It needs set screws to keep the pins from walking out, but they provided them and it works. I cannot attest to them properly assembling the components, but the components I have used are nice and light with a bit of polishing. I run all my AR rifles dry with milspec ammo for 500 rounds. In the old days it was important to run 500-1000 rounds through a gun to break it in. The boutique rifles can skip this process because they're fantastically built by good well trained armorers.
@bare-footjo35
@bare-footjo35 Жыл бұрын
You could try Ian McCollum's, from Forgotten Weapons, polymer rifle. The WWSD ultralight carbine. It's manufactured by KE Arms using the KP-15 monolithic polymer lower. I'm not sure if the upper is polymer or not though.
@drmaudio
@drmaudio Жыл бұрын
The upper is a standard aluminum. I have two KP-15s. They run great and can stand up to a good deal of abuse. An important difference is that they have a fixed polymer stock, so you eliminate the problematic interface at the buffer tube.
@northeastrebel439
@northeastrebel439 Жыл бұрын
Ive heard mixed reviews about these omni hybrids so this should be interesting..
@isaace8090
@isaace8090 Жыл бұрын
I bought two of the non hybrid poly lowers about 10 years ago to mess with. I put a 22lr upper on one and a 5.56 on the other. The 22lr upper lasted fine and had no issues as there is no movement of the BCG into the buffer tube. The 5.56 broke after about 20 rounds. It cracked below the tube where it connects to the sides of the lower. They were both $30 so no big loss. The Omni looked like it was supposed to be an improvement, but I still wouldn't trust it when you can get a Poverty Pony lower and have it last for a long time at only $35-60 depending on the sale. I built a PSA rifle for $280 on black Friday sales a few years ago. It ran great and was decently accurate. ETA: PSA had sales on lower and uppers the past few weeks and you could put a complete rifle together for around $330.
@diyrob6563
@diyrob6563 Жыл бұрын
Thanks John, for all the informative and entertaining content. " Sniffing like Hunter in the White House," lol literally. A polymer upper scares me. I purchased one of the early ATI polymer lowers after watching an advertisement where they ran over the unit with a truck, and it didn't break, but aluminum ones did. I have seen people have had trouble with the lowers cracking in the rear where the buffer tube threads on, but so far, mine hasn't. That being said, I have probably run less than 1000 rounds through it. I have since purchased a second AR-15 with a forged lower.
@sjoracer2934
@sjoracer2934 Жыл бұрын
Love the videos!
@jughead8988
@jughead8988 Жыл бұрын
I built a AR with a ATI lower to cut weight so my granddaughters could shoot it easier. Its ran fine for the past 5 years but i spent all the money on the upper and barrel.
@jasonmerrifield6342
@jasonmerrifield6342 Жыл бұрын
I bought an ATI a few months ago, couldn't pass it up for the price. So far I haven't had any problems out of it and certainly not loose parts or anything. So far I'm a thumbs up for the most part. I do plan to change the upper on mine tho just for sence of mind.
@jasonmerrifield6342
@jasonmerrifield6342 Жыл бұрын
@WarriorPoetSociety925 and what would that be
@Xpnential999999
@Xpnential999999 Жыл бұрын
I bought an ATI stripped upper (it was on sale for $20) and I could not bring myself to use it in a center fire build. It looked and felt cheap, with crude pot metal looking inserts. I filled in the FA hole with epoxy and used it for a dedicated .22 build. I had originally planned to use it in a lightweight build. The lower I purchased for that project was a Tennessee Arms, and that was the polar opposite of the ATI crap. It uses quality metal inserts including threaded brass for the buffer tube, and I have no qualms at all using it for center fire applications. It worked great in my lightweight build (paired with an Anderson Sport upper for low weight without spending $$$ on exotic metals, etc.) Next up, I’m buying one of their carbon fiber AR10 lowers for a lightweight .308. I do use anti-rotation pins with their lowers as that is a known point of wear/potential failure in polymer lowers. The other polymer alternative worth considering is the KE Arms monolithic lower. Brownell’s has been selling them for seventy bux on sale, and considering that includes lower, stock, buffer tube, and pistol grip, that’s a bargain. Add it to a sale PSA upper, and you can easily put together a nice lightweight build for what you spent on the ATI.
@StealthSueYou
@StealthSueYou Жыл бұрын
Hey John, love your stuff, but WPS store could have better customer service! It's quite difficult to get in contact with someone. I love you stuff, but find it hard to get support at times. Please help! Love what you're doing!
@802mountain6
@802mountain6 Жыл бұрын
Any AR is better than not having one at all. That being said plastics have come along way, just look at the different uses already. I.E. lightweight hunting rifles use 90% carbon fiber and using way bigger calibers. I’d like to see if a bcm or DD made a polymer cause it might just make the difference. Keep up the funny reviews and loved the book, you had me fooled for years that you didn’t know how to write or read
@Struggle-Snuggle
@Struggle-Snuggle Жыл бұрын
I disagree, there is zero reason to buy this. It's better to save your money for something that is at the very least functional. Andro, Anderson and PSA make dirt cheap AR's that actually run and shoot decent, often for around $400 too. There's nothing wrong with getting a cheap AR, but just get one that will shoot reliably. I have seen multiple reviews of the ATI Omni and all had an insane amount of stoppages, and they are super picky with ammo and mags.
@JordanJimmyDavison
@JordanJimmyDavison Жыл бұрын
Carbon fiber is not the same as polymer.
@scallywagswagger2318
@scallywagswagger2318 Жыл бұрын
@@JordanJimmyDavison What do you think the word 'polymer' means? I ask seriously and honestly. Go look it up: Every combination of any kind of non-metallic solid/semi-solid that has been homogenized with another solid/semi-solid (metallic or not) becomes a polymer. In this case, most likely a Nylon blend with either Glass Fiber or Carbon Fiber and likely a resin - which makes it a polymer. Here's a fun fact: Did you know that common glass is technically a polymer? No? Shame... This is why most high schools recommend students take a basic chemistry course. And if they don't, they damn well should. In short: Carbon Fiber IS a polymer my friend. It can be nothing else.
@TsandLman
@TsandLman Жыл бұрын
I see others making the same recommendation, but here's another vote for the KP-15 lowers from KE Arms. I picked one up a couple months ago, and I've been trying out some different uppers. I did get some failures to lock back on an empty mag when firing 55 gr through an upper tuned for 77 gr, but I suspect that might resolve itself after the buffer spring has cycled a few hundred more times. .300 BLK ran flawlessly with everything from 110 to 220. (Yes, ATF, it was a 16" barrel on the lower with a fixed stock.) So far, I'm pleased. It's a very light lower and it seems very sturdy.
@axe609
@axe609 Жыл бұрын
I have the older Omni with poly lower and aluminum upper, got it back in 2016 when it was the only option available. It shoots really well all considering. Only a few stoppages and those were at the start. I don't think I would ever want to shoot it supper hot. I have pounded 3 mags through it pretty quick and it was ok. My wife loves if because the weight. Had to go to the Christensen Arms CA-15 with carbon fiber barrel to find a quality rifle she like the balance of.
@loganbewley8859
@loganbewley8859 Жыл бұрын
The WWSD 2020 by InrangeTV, and Forgotten Weapons seams to be the only polymer lowere that gets consistently good reviews.
@mtnbound2764
@mtnbound2764 Жыл бұрын
thats because the designer of that lower solved the main issue, which is the buffer tube connection point, by completely doing away with it. lowers are one thing, uppers.. completely different lol
@RS-un7zm
@RS-un7zm Жыл бұрын
I want to see John test a Hoffman Tactical Orca AR-15. It's also plastic. Very inexpensive as well.
@donwalters8877
@donwalters8877 Жыл бұрын
I've had a Omni Maxx for 7 years, mine runs like a top,eats anything, good accuracy.
@donwalters8877
@donwalters8877 Жыл бұрын
@WarriorPoetSociety925 ??
@donwalters8877
@donwalters8877 Жыл бұрын
That's a new york City number, nothing good ever came out of New York City
@jamesgandia8099
@jamesgandia8099 Жыл бұрын
Just get an Anderson. Cheap. I found one with magpul furniture for 350 bucks. It's metal. Works great. My first AR. I'm happy with it.
@jkar336
@jkar336 Жыл бұрын
Buy “The warrior poet way”. You’ll thank me later
@2ATranA
@2ATranA Жыл бұрын
Love your content! Thanks for being a great teacher 🙏🥰
@762x69
@762x69 Жыл бұрын
Hello There - Ben Kenobi
@ColeDedhand
@ColeDedhand Жыл бұрын
I have a Bushmaster Carbon 15 I bought about 20 years back. I shot a couple thousand rounds through it with no problems. But I wound up making it a permanent 22 conversion because I didn't trust the poly upper for long-term 5.56 use.
@charlessalmond7076
@charlessalmond7076 Жыл бұрын
Have one sitting in front of me with a little over 10k. Changed out the upper so I could put a 13" handguard on it. Original bbl., bolt, drop in rize armory trigger.
@jimziogas8978
@jimziogas8978 Жыл бұрын
I like the concept. WWSD has good ideas with that lower too. Carbon fiber is also interesting.
@noahbama3308
@noahbama3308 Жыл бұрын
James Madison Tactical (JMT) made a very nice carbon fiber 80% lower. They were much easier to mill out than the Polymer80. Unfortunately, they stopped making them when the owner recently passed away.
@Jrichards30
@Jrichards30 Жыл бұрын
Great to see more weapon reviews
@JordanJimmyDavison
@JordanJimmyDavison Жыл бұрын
This is a paperweight review not a firearm. 🔥 🔥 🔥
@morrisfamily5387
@morrisfamily5387 Жыл бұрын
I have had great luck with BearCreek They go on sale a lot and you can get a complete lower and complete upper for about $200 each, pin them and go Still budget, but I’ve had good luck with the ones I have in 10.5 and 7.5 both 5.56
@scotticus26
@scotticus26 Жыл бұрын
I have been running a ATI hybrid polymer lower with a 10.5 standard upper with no issues at all. It has a CMMG lower parts kit. It has eaten every round I’ve fed it.
@mtnbound2764
@mtnbound2764 Жыл бұрын
thats vastly different compared to this though.
@patrickward6386
@patrickward6386 Жыл бұрын
Much love to the Warrior Poet Society, Personally I'll pass on a full polymer upper and lower. I'd rather deal with the extra poundage forgoing the polymer. Great video on what not to purchase.
@realgeorgepatton
@realgeorgepatton Жыл бұрын
We defeated the wrong enemy.
@tylerbennett3057
@tylerbennett3057 4 ай бұрын
Acquired one very cheap, and I had the same experience with the barrel fitment and barrel nut torque concern. I sent it in, and ATI did the repair and a "once over" very quickly. I can torque down a barrel /castle nut, but I'm not gonna chance messing up the Plastic Fantastic. With light grease on the BCG, i haven't had a stoppage since it's return from service. (About 500 rounds post repair, Gen 2 Pmags, and only brass cases)
@calebneff5777
@calebneff5777 Жыл бұрын
Windham makes a polymer rifle, and it’s dead in reliable. Also has a decent barrel. I no longer have one, but I had one for about 5 years. I trained hard with it and had 0 stoppages in maybe 2,000 rounds. I’d highly recommend it.
@akcustom7838
@akcustom7838 10 ай бұрын
I don't even know why someone would consider this option. Just get a sub $400 AR at PSA, they are on sale there all the time. Sure its not a Danial Defense but I have one from PSA that cost $350 and it has ran flawless. Made in America with great warranty. It's a no brainer.
@lancesmith5313
@lancesmith5313 Жыл бұрын
KE Arms has good reviews on their polymer lower and WWSD rifles.
@JohnSmith-xv2ob
@JohnSmith-xv2ob Жыл бұрын
PSA, BCA and the KP15 lower are all far better alternatives than the Omni. The first AR I built has a KP15 monolithic lower, CMMG lower parts, Aero M4E1 upper, BCA bolt, barrel and gas tube, Aero Breach charging handle, basic A2 flash hider and a Sightmark red dot sight. It has some odd quirks, particularly that I have to use loctite on the lower parts to get them to stay in place in certain areas, but after a bit of that, it runs great. I built mine to be as lightweight as possible, so I also have the Magpul MOE handguard and an MVG grip, which hasn't bothered my accuracy at all. Build cost me about $500 overall, and to be able to say I can build better than an actual established gun company that specializes in polymer gives me a sense of pride in my work lol
@ReubenOaks84
@ReubenOaks84 Жыл бұрын
PSA makes far better AR's and you can get them really cheap, especially when you buy complete uppers and lowers separately. In my opinion PSA is the best budget AR maker out there, of course you could get one with issues but I've had really good luck out of them and they're new AAC ammo line has really impressed me, try the 5.56 77gr OTM and 75gr BTHP they offer, it's been reliable, accurate and extremely affordable.
@dwightsmith2918
@dwightsmith2918 Жыл бұрын
I have the same gun in a pistol. It runs fine and does one inch at 50 yards. For the price, I have no complaints.
@chaunceygriffin3022
@chaunceygriffin3022 Жыл бұрын
Sniffing like Hunter in the White House😂😂😂
@philiphusoveck1094
@philiphusoveck1094 Жыл бұрын
Mine wouldn't cycle properly at first also. All I did was install a heavier buffer tube and a $5.00 Bravo Company extractor (they cost a bit more now). NEVER had another failure, runs like a champ and is extremely accurate. All I shoot is cheap Tula steel ammo too. It's by far the best $369 I have ever spent on a firearm.
@frigglebiscuit7484
@frigglebiscuit7484 Жыл бұрын
mine has double stacked o rings on the extractor. grabs the brass so hard it leaves brass flakes behind.
@timothyvandenhoek4326
@timothyvandenhoek4326 Жыл бұрын
My copy of your book just got here and I can’t wait to read it! Thank you again for your service and for your hard work.
@timothyvandenhoek4326
@timothyvandenhoek4326 Жыл бұрын
@WarriorPoetSociety925 you do?
@timothyvandenhoek4326
@timothyvandenhoek4326 Жыл бұрын
Ohhh the book. Got it 😂
@Successautodetailing
@Successautodetailing Жыл бұрын
Didn't Beretta do an awesome job with the ARX series of polymer rifles? The ARX series has truly revolutionized the firearm industry with its innovative design and exceptional performance. Beretta's commitment to excellence is evident in every aspect of these rifles. The ARX series stands out for its use of advanced polymer materials, making it lightweight, durable, and incredibly versatile. Whether you're a professional shooter or a casual enthusiast, the ARX rifles offer unparalleled accuracy and reliability. The ergonomic design ensures a comfortable grip, allowing for precise aiming and swift target acquisition. One notable feature of the ARX series is its modular design, which allows users to easily customize and adapt their rifles to meet their specific needs. From different barrel lengths to adjustable stocks and rails for accessories, the ARX series provides endless possibilities for customization. Furthermore, the ARX rifles incorporate cutting-edge technology, such as an advanced piston-driven system, ensuring smooth operation and reduced recoil. This enhances the overall shooting experience, allowing for faster follow-up shots and improved control. Not only did Beretta excel in the design and performance of the ARX series, but they also prioritized user safety. The rifles are equipped with various safety mechanisms, including a secure ambidextrous magazine release and a reliable trigger system.
@libertycosworth8675
@libertycosworth8675 Жыл бұрын
Ok John... That testing using the costume suit of armor was absolutely hilarious....
@BuckF0eJiden
@BuckF0eJiden Жыл бұрын
I had one of the Omnis a while back and sold it. It wasn't a bad rifle, but it wasn't a great rifle either. I had changed the barrel out for a 16" pencil barrel from Ballistic Advantage, and a UTG pro ultra slim handguard as a lightweight build, and it did fine... They're just not very accurate, I think from flex in the upper. Personally, I'd rather go with a BCA upper on a PSA lower as a budget build. But if it's what you've got, run it.
@user-bq2hk5qt5s
@user-bq2hk5qt5s Жыл бұрын
Because we keep coming back for more. Think and about that.
@SgtSchear
@SgtSchear Жыл бұрын
I've only shot one 5.56 Omni AR, owned by a friend, and upon the first magazine it had multiple fire control issues. On multiple occasions one trigger pull resulted in MULTIPLE rounds being sent down range. It also started to behave like a binary trigger where a pull = 1 round, release = 1 round. I immediately stopped firing and told my friend his firearm was a legal nightmare and to immediately return it.
@prescotian1500
@prescotian1500 9 ай бұрын
I built a rifle with one of these ATI Omni lowers years ago and it still works with no issues. I do not like the idea of a polymer upper receiver and I see no real benefit at all to a polymer upper receiver. I have the Omni lower and the KP15 lower. I have had no issues with either as a lower receiver after thousands of rounds in all seasons and they have performed just like an aluminum lower receiver.
@amn1308
@amn1308 Жыл бұрын
I know a guy that really likes his polymer lower. Personally I would never use a polymer upper and I would have to have no other choice before using a polymer lower. I recommend waiting for the BCA upper you want to be on sale, then mill your own lower, if you aren't happy with the tolerances do better next time. Complete rifle for about $250-$300 plus 4-8 hours depending on skill.
@jeremyguthery36
@jeremyguthery36 Жыл бұрын
I know a lot of us are stuck in our ways. But. I highly recommend RISE ARMAMENT triggers. They’re almost a must. And in my experience WAY better than any other drop in triggers
@doronspencer2177
@doronspencer2177 Жыл бұрын
Oh great vid, BUT I have the 5.56 version and you could build your own on their site about 8-10 years ago. I have the best barrel, my own bolt carrier group and charging handle . Forward asset, metal pins , pined gas block, my our controls , and kept the trigger . Mine eats anything, has never failed and it more accurate then my service M4. So it's best to build it off of their parts kits
@SchinzonofRemus
@SchinzonofRemus Жыл бұрын
Great training item as it has so many issues! I need one!!
@dj4514
@dj4514 Жыл бұрын
When I was a child I learned a lesson the hard way. You buy something cheap you get something cheap. You buy something of high quality that costs money you keep it for the rest of your life!
@1776_Patriot
@1776_Patriot Жыл бұрын
I run aluminum, magnesium alloy, carbon fiber and polymer lowers. My uppers are all aluminum with one being magnesium alloy. They are all used on a regular basis and with the exception of the carbon fiber lower, they are all over three years old. With that being said, I've never had a catastrophic failure with any of them. I have noticed a big difference with some polymer lowers. It may sound crazy but there seems to be a huge gap between "high end" and "lower end" polymer. Some are remarkably better than others. I like aluminum best and I'm pretty sure they will be the standard for a very long time.
@wadepettigrew5321
@wadepettigrew5321 Жыл бұрын
Bought an Omni 5.56 few years back. No problems so far. Has never jammed even with different mags. My SKS is more accurate. I'm an amateur though and probably will never put it through the paces John does. Thanks for the video, I'll keep wits about me.
@wadepettigrew5321
@wadepettigrew5321 Жыл бұрын
@Warriorpoetsociety- what can I do for you?
@nickrussell8029
@nickrussell8029 Жыл бұрын
I had a few of the ATI lowers but I went with traditional uppers. Never had a problem. Tried it on many uppers without an issue. I’m not sure the polymer uppers are there yet. The lower is fine for function in my experience use a quality upper.
@leadhead7338
@leadhead7338 Жыл бұрын
The Omni Hybrid is only a polymer lower, the Omni Hybrid Max is both polymer lower and upper
@prongATO
@prongATO Жыл бұрын
One of the few people that their assessment is the gospel for me.. TY
@prongATO
@prongATO Жыл бұрын
@Warriorpoetsociety- nice try scammer
@micj62
@micj62 11 ай бұрын
Anderson Utility out of Hebron, KY makes a good gun at $400 with a stainless steel lower parts kit, lower receiver forged aluminum, and the upper is forged aluminum. Check it out.
@themightycrixus1131
@themightycrixus1131 Жыл бұрын
I have an ATI Omni Hybrid in 5.56. It was my first AR. About 1000 rounds down range and my only issue is my gas block came loose around 700 rounds. Other than that I haven't encountered any of these issues.
@cquickstad
@cquickstad Жыл бұрын
If you're going to talk about plastic ARs, you have to compare with the KE Arms KP-15 polymer lower (the next evolution of the old CAV Arms polymer lower). This is the gold standard for polymer, but the target was not low price, rather weight reduction and high durability.
@frankstabler1920
@frankstabler1920 Жыл бұрын
I have the 5.56. It came with the loose barrel that you found. I sent it back for repair (lifetime warranty). Since it came back I have had only one stoppage in several hundred rounds and it was caused by a blown primer in a batch of Lake City surplus ammo.
@11_Chuck
@11_Chuck Жыл бұрын
I did a video on this a year ago. For me, it worked. But I would only recommend to someone that seriously can’t afford much. This is better than nothing. But not by much.
@texasranger24
@texasranger24 Жыл бұрын
John, you got this all wrong. You were supposed to fire 3 rounds of .300blk through the 5.56 gun first to make sure all the tolerances get properly worked in. That would've prevented any further stoppages. 100% guaranteed.
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