Ultraviolet Trichromes

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attic darkroom

Күн бұрын

I tried ultraviolet trichrome. It was underwhelming.
00:00 what is ultraviolet
01:19 first attempt hp5 - false start
02:00 unscheduled tangent
02:32 first attempt hp5 - for real this time
02:58 second attempt hp5
03:27 infrared film superpan
04:35 grow light
05:12 color film kodak gold
06:17 end
equipment:
Nikon FE2
Nikon 50mm f1.8 Series E
Hasselblad 500C/M
Carl Zeiss 80mm f2.8 C* Planar
development notes:
ADOX Rodinal
Rollei Compard R09
website - atticdarkroom.com
instagram - / atticdarkroom
music by:
Ant Fire - Rachel K Collier
Cockroach On Toast - Rachel K Collier
Morpho Diana - Rachel K Collier

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@gusatvoschiavon
@gusatvoschiavon 11 ай бұрын
Nobody can stop this man trichromes
@_-_Michael_-_
@_-_Michael_-_ 11 ай бұрын
Even him can stop them when something wents sideways 😂
@xwingfighter999
@xwingfighter999 11 ай бұрын
If you want to see if you're getting UV light or not, what you have to do is apply sunscreen on half a piece of something, and shoot it. The side with sunscreen will absorb UVs
@atticdarkroom
@atticdarkroom 11 ай бұрын
That's a good idea.
@Casey_Schmidt
@Casey_Schmidt 11 ай бұрын
Another possibility would be to use a pinhole camera since it has no glass to block the UV. Then use your UV/IR filter to block the visible light in combination with a blue filter to block out the red light. Your exposure times would be measured in lifetimes instead of seconds but it could work 🤷‍♂️
@Aar69
@Aar69 11 ай бұрын
It would have been nice if you could have taken photographs of some flowers, or maybe a portrait with sunscreen applied to a subject (getting you in trouble for an unintentional blackface) so that we can see that the ultraviolet sensitivity is actually being utilized. Right now the results are "looks kinda funky, but can't really tell how the UV is changing anything"
@fandyus4125
@fandyus4125 11 ай бұрын
Even before I watch: As someone who is a big fan of UV photography and is very disillusioned about the fact that nobody seems to be actively doing it or much less, making videos about it on youtube, I near damn started cheering when I saw the title of the video. Thank you.
@fandyus4125
@fandyus4125 11 ай бұрын
2:52 If you want crazy color shifts, use the green frame for the red channel, the blue frame for the green channel and the UV frame for the blue channel. It will give you red foliage and such, but it will be less shiny.
@PrebleStreetRecords
@PrebleStreetRecords 11 ай бұрын
Next up on Attic Darkroom- Doing Trichromes with 160M band radio.
@atticdarkroom
@atticdarkroom 11 ай бұрын
🤔
@bosz112
@bosz112 11 ай бұрын
The UV photography shows its power when you photograph skin, especially faces. Results are close but even more creepy then with wet plate collodion photography (which is basically UV photography because of its spectral sensitivity).
@fandyus4125
@fandyus4125 11 ай бұрын
Collodion has a lot of blue and some green sensitivity I think.
@mjfan653
@mjfan653 11 ай бұрын
I would try UV with pinhole photos… can’t block UV if there is no lens to block it…
@ronen_khazin
@ronen_khazin 11 ай бұрын
I've been playing with uv in digital and the issue is you need an IR blocking filter to go with the uv pass filter. IR easily overpowers the uv and you get basically nothing but IR with the standard filter. But yeah you need a LOT of exposure. On digital, on my full spectrum converted camera, it's like ISO 3200 1/30th wide open in direct sunlight at f1.8 with my best UV passing lens
@carpediem673
@carpediem673 11 ай бұрын
Good to know--that explains why my UV shots all come out looking like IR
@trixiewasanegg
@trixiewasanegg 11 ай бұрын
Babe wake up new attic darkroom just dropped
@iNerdier
@iNerdier 11 ай бұрын
Ok chemistry hat on here: All film emulsions are inherently sensitive to UV, it's why wet plate and the earliest forms of photography only showed up light into the blue spectrum. UV is a shorter wavelength and inherently more energetic photons than red light and it works to destabilise the silver halide crystals that form more effectively than less energetic light. This is why you can use a red safe light in a darkroom and not expose orthochromatic film / paper. Film now has sensitiser dyes that allow the emulsions to react to other colours of light, thus extending their sensitivity into green, red and sometimes infrared and by so doing also increase their sensitivity in general as they're capturing more photons that hit the emulsion. Earlier films had fewer or less effective dyes and so didn't reach as far up the spectrum. The reason colour film has that orange layer is to mask UV/Blue out of the red and green layers beneath as they're inherently somewhat sensitive to them. If I were to try this out, I would do something like a false colour image with UV/Blue/Green on orthochromatic film as that is probably likely to give you the best sensitivity ranges for a tri-chrome though I have no idea how good a blue filter would be as a UV cut, it might just past everything under say 450nm. The suggestions of sunscreen are pretty good here, it should either absorb or scatter UV differently depending on how it works.
@elleoat
@elleoat 11 ай бұрын
You can just shoot pinhole. No lens, no UV blocking.
@fandyus4125
@fandyus4125 11 ай бұрын
Yeah but if you do that I would recommend exposures of at least 10 minutes. UV light is already a lot more sparse than visible light and pinholes are extremely dark.
@unknown-otter
@unknown-otter 11 ай бұрын
Yeah! Or plastic disposable camera lenses
@fandyus4125
@fandyus4125 11 ай бұрын
@@unknown-otter Those will most likely block UV a lot better than glass. Especially if the lens was made out of polycarbonate or such.
@andrewbroekhuijsen6770
@andrewbroekhuijsen6770 11 ай бұрын
Those bichromes are wild!
@BeyondReality2
@BeyondReality2 11 ай бұрын
Most Tungsten balance color films are sensitive to Ultra Violet light, give it a try with some Cinestill 800T sometime or any other motion picture tungsten balanced film you have laying around. I've not tried capturing Ultra Violet with Black and white film before though so was interested to see your results. You won't be getting crazy color shifts but more so unlocking DLC that your eyes don't see with Ultra Violet, IR is more about the color shifts from my experimentation.
@turbopanzer
@turbopanzer 10 ай бұрын
You do cool stuff. I'll just share something fun with the class that I like to do with Rollei IR, I guess you could call a pentachrome. I take a series of IR, Red, Green, Blue, and 360nm peak UV shots, layer them, and then scrunch in the color channels from the full 350-780nm of the five shots to the 380-700nm the eyes can readily see. So the IR and UV are deep red and deep blue, then the red channel becomes yellow-green, green gets a little hint of blue, and blue gets a little hint of green. It makes for a fun way to see a scene.
@labo
@labo 4 ай бұрын
Hi there... Where can I see one of those? Really curious how it looks
@turbopanzer
@turbopanzer 3 ай бұрын
​@@labo I have some on Instagram, grey.nagle. They're the purple ones
@Xin200O
@Xin200O 11 ай бұрын
He has blessed us with another upload
@spectrazone
@spectrazone 11 ай бұрын
Super wild results! I've been meaning to try out UV on film for a while. If you have any, I think ortho film is slightly more sensitive in the UV range, and might allow shorter wavelengths than the panchromatic films.
@fckcptlsm
@fckcptlsm 11 ай бұрын
the color shots are hotttt!!! 🔥
@jcdowen
@jcdowen 11 ай бұрын
Love the channel, watched every video multiple times now. I was wondering if you had ever had the idea of creating DIY autographic film for 1920's kodak cameras? No one online appears to have really tried it. Seems like something right up your street! Cheers for all the excellent content.
@дигл_лайв
@дигл_лайв 11 ай бұрын
I think that bi-color is kinda what dog vision is like
@xander1052
@xander1052 11 ай бұрын
UV imagery tends to be hazy as UV scatters really easily, that's likely the blue cast you are seeing, the UV just being unable to travel as directly to the lens unlike the red and green light. If you want a strong effect with UV, photograph someone with sunscreen on.
@OlDoinyo
@OlDoinyo 10 ай бұрын
Shooting UV through a simple filter with color film and long exposures results in quite a bit of visible leakage, especially on the red end. Images so obtained are best regarded as hybrid UV/visible images. If all visible is blocked the images will be fairly monochromatic.
@Suckmine10
@Suckmine10 11 ай бұрын
The mad scientist of filmverse
@RebSike
@RebSike 6 ай бұрын
id love to see some more of that blue foliage
@Sam_filmgeek
@Sam_filmgeek 11 ай бұрын
From a bit of semi-related info. UV light isn’t the same through the year and to compensate most film companies to keep iso consistency blocks a portion of UV light. Learned this from LFP podcast talking about dry plate.
@BriManeely
@BriManeely 11 ай бұрын
Somehow missed this upload.. but it was a wild experiment
@mikulasroubicek4642
@mikulasroubicek4642 11 ай бұрын
You should try this with fluorescent lights/mercury vapor bulbs.
@lukehenderson5097
@lukehenderson5097 11 ай бұрын
If you want to cut the IR, shoot long exposures starting at absolute last light... Red fast, blue slow... The UV will be the last light from the sun to make it to your lens, then you'll just get a little more visible spectrum from moon/cloud...
@Netcom27
@Netcom27 11 ай бұрын
R09 is actually the only “Rodinal” that literary died on me. 1 year after opening, instantly with no signs of weakening. And I’m over cautious so it was filled with inert gas all the time.
@nick4506
@nick4506 11 ай бұрын
pinhole camera, no glass to block uv. for chip lithography they use mirrors for those short wavelengths to reduce glass obsorbtion.
@jealius4340
@jealius4340 11 ай бұрын
I have used r09 and adox rodinal interchangeably without any issues
@LaViejaConsolada
@LaViejaConsolada 11 ай бұрын
there are some process and enlarger lenses that allow UV light and they come affordable. I have an EL-nikkor 40mm f/4 that I had succesfully used for alternative processess, so it indeed lets UV light thru. You can find that model an similar ones for around 50 bucks, but you have to make sure that they are compatible with alternative processess (aka: cyanotype, carbon, palladium, gumoil... well, you get it), as not all enlarging lens is ok with UV light. And please, buy the "low-end" lenses. We darkroom dwellers have to struggle to find proper lenses because every instagramer is using them for macro. xDDD About filtration: be imaginative. There must be another source of light filtration not associated with photography. Think about greenhouses, think about solar panels... There must be some material readily available that allows UV light. Film: you are pushing the limits of spectal sensitivity. Use appropiate emulsions for UV wavelenght. Search for blue sensitive emulsions, think out of the box. Perhaps dryplates? X-ray film? You can do it!
@lasabandijafilms
@lasabandijafilms 6 ай бұрын
So fkn cool!
@dereksauer8108
@dereksauer8108 11 ай бұрын
Its possible the lens is absorbing quite a lot of UV. Even that Series-E has a bunch of glass elements in it. Perhaps give that filter a try with a pinhole body cap to rule out glass absorbtion.
@emilecrowther7706
@emilecrowther7706 11 ай бұрын
I swear one day you'll hit the sweet spot. For now keep making garbage so we don't have too. There is a magic to your process I should mention. Please don't stop. Your garbage is content gold.
@mishkamcivor409
@mishkamcivor409 11 ай бұрын
I've been wanting to try shooting UV on B&W film for a while but I just have no idea where to start when it comes to how to meter an exposure lol
@blackjack12341234
@blackjack12341234 11 ай бұрын
Just experiment. Bracket it. Expose each scene 7 times, starting from -3 stops to +3 and study the results
@JChaytor86
@JChaytor86 4 ай бұрын
Do some flowers! Some have interesting invisible UV reflectivity to attract pollinators
@brs8285
@brs8285 14 күн бұрын
4:24 wow, they look like Meteor M satellite HRPT imagery, I guess using 2 channels for RGB gives the same color scheme
@CNSFG
@CNSFG 11 ай бұрын
ultraviolet is also interesting like infrared, i last time try [with succes finally] infrared, it's time for trichrome it
@nerder11
@nerder11 11 ай бұрын
A pinhole camera/lens is a good option for UV, makes filters more difficult but...
@assrockman1
@assrockman1 5 ай бұрын
In veritasiums video about explaining how to shoot UV he mentions that in a normal scene there's way too much IR light for the UV+IR filter to capture any UV. So you basically have to sell your kidney for the UV filter :)
@mackey1911
@mackey1911 11 ай бұрын
Would it be possible to add an IR cut filter to just get the ultraviolet out of that filter?
@atticdarkroom
@atticdarkroom 11 ай бұрын
I haven't done a whole lot of research so I could be wrong, but most affordable IR cut filters also cut UV as well. There are IR cut filters but those are about as expensive as UV bandpass filter.
@labo
@labo 4 ай бұрын
​@@atticdarkroomHi! What if you start a croudfund to rent equipment? I know you do this for fun and whenever you have free time but I'm sure there are some folks like me willing to invest on these kind of experiments.
@mbntr2363
@mbntr2363 11 ай бұрын
did you block IR when taking the UV pictures?
@michabutkiewicz702
@michabutkiewicz702 11 ай бұрын
a quick word about R09 -> it died on me yesterday after 7 months since I opened it, roll turned out completly blank
@liz.morrigan
@liz.morrigan 11 ай бұрын
always look forward to your nonsense
@atticdarkroom
@atticdarkroom 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. I really appreciate it!
@jcaites
@jcaites 11 ай бұрын
Do it again but properly this time (with colour film, exposed correctly!)
@nathanhu9148
@nathanhu9148 11 ай бұрын
The speck of dust on the bottom right had me cleaning my screen in confusion
@yorgle
@yorgle 11 ай бұрын
Great. Now i'm craving smoked salmon. ;D
@shurley96
@shurley96 7 ай бұрын
Gotta use those UV lights that put all those Crypto Bros in the Hospital.
@Jeremy-fl2xt
@Jeremy-fl2xt 7 ай бұрын
Please more! If you have a patreon (or something else, doesn't have to be patreon), I'd be happy to kick in a few bucks a month.
@albarca5084
@albarca5084 11 ай бұрын
Attic Darkroom at 3:57 be like: Colors are wierd But they can be wierder
@MrConna6
@MrConna6 10 ай бұрын
I think if you corrected the bicolour to be paler it would look nice
@tiansili
@tiansili 11 ай бұрын
try ektar 100
@jayerjavec
@jayerjavec 11 ай бұрын
I think, duotone is what you were trying to say.
@DeeB1345
@DeeB1345 11 ай бұрын
Ultraviolet makes me ultra violent.
@Qpwrtm
@Qpwrtm 11 ай бұрын
Hm, my comment was deleted. Is it because I mentioned uranium rocks and X-ray?
@Qpwrtm
@Qpwrtm 11 ай бұрын
Yep, for some reason my comment gets deleted automatically. No idea what am I saying wrong, it’s just scientific stuff and research experience
@Qpwrtm
@Qpwrtm 11 ай бұрын
Maybe I was saying about objects to photograph, but instead of }photographing} there was a different word. Super stupid, lol
@Qpwrtm
@Qpwrtm 11 ай бұрын
Nope, something else. Now it’s just pure curiosity, what in my comment about UV filters makes KZfaq to delete the comment hmmmm
@fandyus4125
@fandyus4125 11 ай бұрын
@@Qpwrtm My comments also got deleted. I wrote several paragraphs of useful info. I hope the man himself isn't doing this because then wtf.
@Qpwrtm
@Qpwrtm 11 ай бұрын
@@fandyus4125don’t think so, it gets deleted very fast, probably some KZfaq filter. The question is what words are forbidden:)
@ThornHawthorne
@ThornHawthorne 11 ай бұрын
Next time, get sunscreen involved!
@KnowledgePerformance7
@KnowledgePerformance7 11 ай бұрын
Misread as "ultraviolent"
@erwinc.9117
@erwinc.9117 11 ай бұрын
My R09 matched my Adox Rodinal basically the same so how yours is underdeveloped is a myth
@edoardogamba6141
@edoardogamba6141 11 ай бұрын
Bro fucking what
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