Audis marketing team truly has some balls. To proactively push that “lots of weight can be an advantage”-argument, that doesn’t make any sense at all, is just mind boggling to me.
@snviper5 жыл бұрын
It is when you are regeneratively braking. But only then. They have lots of experience in this sector from their hybrid LeMans cars. It's basically them saying it's the only thing they are good at in the EV game.
@MrYoursoup5 жыл бұрын
@@snviper no, it's BS. Yes, you regenerate more, but you also use more power to accelerate to the same speed.
@krusher745 жыл бұрын
@@MrYoursoup you regen more from your heavy car. but then you use more to get its heavy ass up the hill in the first place. its basic physics. im surprised jonny did not catch them on that
@energiewender1435 жыл бұрын
Audi was too cheap to construct this car in aluminium (or aluminum for Americans). This car is build from steele - not very high end. So you get a weight punishment and need to rust-proof it. Also tooling and production cost might be higher versus an aluminium construction.
@simonm14475 жыл бұрын
@@energiewender143 Steel has also advantages - it can be made with a higher strenght. The Audi Space Frame, used in the A8, is built with a material mix of steel, aluminum and carbon fiber material. Corrosion is only a problem if the manufacturer wants to save money, if they invest the money for a good rust protection a car made of steel can also last long.
@MarcCoteMusic5 жыл бұрын
Jonny Smith is my favourite car reviewer. He is knowledgeable, not only about the vehicle he's reviewing, but all similar cars and competitors. He's fair but doesn't shy away from pointing out possible problems, flaws and issues. I also like that Jonny offers his personal opinions on the vehicles he's reviewing but makes it clear that they are opinions, not facts. While I really enjoy the videos Robert makes - Fully Charged is one of my favourite channels - I do hope that it will be Jonny who does all vehicle reviews. If I could ask for one thing it would be more news segments from both Robert and Jonny... they're great together. All hail Faraday Past!
@TheLateBrakeShow5 жыл бұрын
Marc Coté Very kind remarks Marc. I try to deliver both fact and opinion, but ultimately it’s up to the viewers to decide the verdict. Always want to make more films with Robert. And yes, hail #faradaypast
@MarcCoteMusic5 жыл бұрын
@@TheLateBrakeShow - Thanks, Jonny. Keep up the good work... and feel free to upload more frequently to your own channel when you get the time. Also, I just discovered Smith and Sniff... fun stuff. Out of curiosity, is there any chance of Fifth Gear coming back? I miss the show.
@joopvanroy65995 жыл бұрын
I like Fully Charged, and I like all EV's. But I kind of miss the critical points of view that (for example) Bjorn Nyland provides. You're testing an EV in hot conditions while for most of NW Europe the cold weather performance is much more important. EV's do fine in the heat. Not so much in the cold. Will you do real-life testing with the I-pace, E-tron and Model 3? That would be awesome, and I think a lot of people would like to see this!
@thankyouforyourcompliance73865 жыл бұрын
Nextmove in Germany did a parallel test of driving an Etron, iPace and old Model X. Check KZfaq.
@robhaitch55445 жыл бұрын
That’s where Audi hosted the event. Nothing any reviewer could do about that.
@tomquimby86695 жыл бұрын
real world tests on this channel no I don't think so, its all about light weight non critical reporting, mostly inaccurately, once you travel with Bjorn everything else pales beside his excellent tests
@redxsage5 жыл бұрын
Yes, *Bjørn Nyland* is awesome. This is true. But he is not yet a paid member of the *FullyCharged* crew. That would be a nice addition. Besides, this was a press junket, organized entirely by AUDI, not themselves, to show off their cars in the best possible light. Dude, when someone invites you to the United Arab Emirates, you *GO!* It's a nice place to visit, especially after months of gray, soggy, chilly Winter in the UK. You don't say, _"Oh, that's cool and all... But we'd much rather do a harsh weather 'Real World' test against direct competitors in Finland, Iceland, Greenland, Norway, or Canada instead. Maybe New Zealand too if we have time..."_ They would never answer your phone calls again. I don't even care for AUDI cars all that much. Nothing German really. And I would have gone in a heartbeat upon being invited. Even though the e-tron seems like an overweight electrified Estate/Wagon yawn inducing bore-mobile. I'd have loved the trip though!
@zapfanzapfan5 жыл бұрын
11:44 "Good for night time hookups" ;-)
@electricfelix5 жыл бұрын
favourite part!
@charlech5 жыл бұрын
"not like that"
@brightfuture48745 жыл бұрын
It’s good to see Audi, VW, and Porsche all sharing their electric platforms. P.P.E. For the larger cars and the M.E.B. ID platform for smaller cars.
@rogerstarkey53905 жыл бұрын
I think you'll find this is neither PPE nor MEB.
@2nd3rd1st5 жыл бұрын
Why they named it Premium Platform Electric PPE rather than Premium Electric Platform PEP, when they already have a Modular Electric Platform MEP, is a mystery to me.
@mkkm9455 жыл бұрын
This has been the VW group way for decades now. In gas cars there's the MQB (smaller) and MLB (larger). Which is why a VW Golf = Skoda Octavia = Audi A4 in terms of a lot of shared components including engines. Finishes and styling are different.
@M20B25-User5 жыл бұрын
P.P.E. has been postponed recently because they found out that they cannot compete with Teslas latest Model 3. After reverse engineering (taking apart everything) a Model 3 at Audi they were shocked about how good this car really is.
@2nd3rd1st5 жыл бұрын
@@M20B25-User How old is this interview then
@21335186z5 жыл бұрын
You could take a Ferrari on that "off - road" track.
@xavichuvy90475 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts.
@EleanorPeterson5 жыл бұрын
It's a nature reserve, with roads made for ordinary cars; Jonny did say he wasn't rock-crawling. If he wasn't being filmed and supervised by Audi 'minders' I'm sure he'd have thrashed the nuts off it, got it stuck, trashed the under-pan, etc. Jonny's a complete nutter, but he knows when he has to behave himself. He doesn't want to acquire a reputation as an awkward d**khead like Jeremy Clarkson.
@morosis825 жыл бұрын
To be fair, there was a section with a raised centre that a Ferrari would not like, but generally agree.
@jamesdicken34425 жыл бұрын
With respect, in regards to your analysis at the end, you are not the target consumer for this car (hyper aware EV expert, all in on electric cars saving the world). This looks to be designed for the driver that changes Audi's every 2-3 years, that wants to try out an electric car without changing to much of their life style. I think Audi will do well and the next version (that will naturally get lighter, faster, etc) will do even better.
@timvonr28025 жыл бұрын
James Dicken if it was made for this (or as fleet car for business) they had put in more luxury interior like the Q8...
@NUTTY-nw4ed5 жыл бұрын
Well said
@andymccabe67125 жыл бұрын
Hallelujah! a rational comment........
@ahaveland5 жыл бұрын
Good point, though that class of case will be relatively short lived as EV sales go exponential.
@Haien825 жыл бұрын
Good point sir!
@morkovija5 жыл бұрын
Just fyi some comparison numbers: Tesla Model X:24.8 kWh per 100 km ((39.9 kWh/100mi). Audi e-tron: 30.5 kWh/100 km (49.1 kWh/100mi). Jaguar I-Pace:31.3 kWh/100 km (50,37 kWh/100mi) Sauce:German electric car rental company nextmove
@dizzypeasant16325 жыл бұрын
At an average 120 kph. Is this down to the Tesla's better aero or is there something Audi and Jaguar are missing?
@morkovija5 жыл бұрын
Dizzy Peasant aero for sure, but it's hard to speculate about internals
@kdkd6935 жыл бұрын
Interesting, esp considering the X is a bigger SUV than both others. Good sauce lol
@achenarmyst21565 жыл бұрын
1.5x playback everything - thank me later You probably meant „Source“. You don‘t poure Next Move over cars. 😉
@MadsAarup5 жыл бұрын
Tesla is ahead of the game. It shines in every parameter. Still unbelievably great to see high end EVs (and don't forget the Mercedes EQ-C) from more than one car maker
@gelisob5 жыл бұрын
Hey Jonny, the problem with camera mirror is focus, with real mirror your eyes focus far, when looking at the road and glancing the mirror. With display - your eyes now need to focus near and then far again.. that is the disturbing part with changing mirror to display. This little extra work and delay for your eyes is something that a lot of people will find not so comfy, I believe. (test it by looking far and your hand and far and your hand.. )
@lukalukic15 жыл бұрын
Problem is dirt or rain or snow
@banny1234565 жыл бұрын
@@lukalukic1 you can create an aerodynamic bubble that ensures the lens of the camera will not suffer that much from dirt. You must clean regular mirrors on the car either.
@rayphot5 жыл бұрын
Imagine how expensive it will be if some idiot damages your camera mirror in a car park. Its bad enough when you have to replace mirrors due to inconsiderate drivers.....a camera system isn't going to be cheap!
@gillespelletier91615 жыл бұрын
With mirror you can change your viewing angle by moving your head. Impossible while looking at screen.
@Markle2k5 жыл бұрын
It's a safety issue too. It takes your eyes nearly a second to focus far-near-far in order to "glance" at what is behind you. At highway speeds that's a long time to take your eyes off the road for a routine operation. This is one of the advantages of analogue or analogue-like gauges in the instrument cluster. Properly designed, you can get reasonable accuracy without having to "read" something.
@cawfeedawg5 жыл бұрын
The 250 miles range with a 95kwh battery pack seems poor.
@hynsum5 жыл бұрын
i agree, must be the weight penalty.
@robhaitch55445 жыл бұрын
@@hynsum read somewhere that this could be more to do with protecting the battery than poor efficiency. **if** that is true, we'll probably see Audi batteries lasting a lot longer than Tesla's. Seen some people getting new batteries under warranty from Telsa already. That's great for the customer but it's a disaster for Tesla's bottom line and long term survival if lots of cars they sell end up needing new batteries in order to win the efficiency or performance race.
@FutureSystem7385 жыл бұрын
Rob Haitch Really? The overwhelming and vast majority of Tesla batteries last incredibly well. They have the runs on the board. Nobody else does.
@michaeldawson63095 жыл бұрын
With 95kwh comes the additional weight of the battery which is going to affect performance and efficiency using approx 245Wh/km which is high and must be down to the weight. Imagine a much lighter design and maybe a little smaller using around 180Wh/km would give this a very attractive 300Mile range and maybe a more agile nippy performance like the iPace. I also do not like the side charge sockets so far back from the long hood as charging from a front charger means at times the charge lead is too short or stretched across the body a little. I would have preferred a charge socket at the front and rear. Its a lovely interior which most German manufactures excel at and we take for granted that they will produce a quality squeak and creak free interior. 70K+ is way too expensive for most however like other EV manufacturers their first dip into the EV sales market is top end and I do not blame them for that. What will really make them money is a 300Mile £35K vehicle with agile performance / fast charging from a high voltage battery pack using slightly more advanced batt tech and aluminium body and while I am fantasising about the future a more exotic futuristic design like some of the concept cars would not go a miss. For sure all Audi have done here is basically electrify an existing ICE car IMO. I look forwards to later iterations of their craft.
@alecktz26775 жыл бұрын
yes, the german channel nextmove did a comparrison between E-tron and Model X90D, the Audi needs ~25% more Energy...
@bumblebee93375 жыл бұрын
Mass helps... for locomotives, with steel-on-steel wheels.
@yaris6845 жыл бұрын
this made me LOL hard Really fucked Audi engineers don't understand how Newtonian physics work going uphill and downhill-all that regen is no good if your trying to haul an RV up the hill on a electric motor.
@joshuaheffernan43745 жыл бұрын
@@yaris684 yes you know better than Audi engineers
@johnford38255 жыл бұрын
How about test driving at the other extreme condition. Sub zero conditions in Finland. I would like to know how these vehicles perform in cold climate conditions.
@kuba7295 жыл бұрын
Yup, hot climate give them more range :)
@WickedMuis5 жыл бұрын
That's one of the biggest concerns I've heard from someone in Norway: range and efficiency goes to shit while the vehicle is in -20 C.
@johnford38255 жыл бұрын
Wicked Mouse it is important to know what variation in range we can expect throughout the years driving and what effect the cold/hot cycling will have on the life of the battery. I don’t want to be the test dummy for a remote global company.
@SMABEM5 жыл бұрын
I have a Nissan Leaf 2018. I live in Canada where it frequently gets to -20 C. The fact is an electric heater is a significant draw on the battery. Just think about the cost of running an electric heater in your home. So running a heater *significantly* reduces the range in a sub zero winter. Potentially up to 50%. This is why it is critical that EVs have as large a battery as possible.
@SMABEM5 жыл бұрын
The thing with ICE cars is that in winter waste heat is used to heat the cabin. The process of combustion is inefficient and produces a lot of waste heat. In the summer this heat is just blown into the air. This just proves how EVs are much more efficient. Only utilizing energy when necessary. i.e. more in winter, less in summer, when you don't need heating.
@onepunchbud14725 жыл бұрын
I just realized that I started this video and clicked like after 3 seconds because its fully charged. I don't do this with other channels. 😄
@bluejay88365 жыл бұрын
One punch Bud I do the same thing!
@snowstrobe5 жыл бұрын
The only other site I do that is 'Your Daily Dose of Internet'.
@fullychargedshow5 жыл бұрын
Well we're very flattered and honoured to have your premature like. Thank you. :-)
@VesaGuardian5 жыл бұрын
I do understand that only too well!
@angus95415 жыл бұрын
Same same
@js9865 жыл бұрын
Jonny always mentions the paddles being ‘wrong’, they’re done that way to act similarly to dropping gears in an ICE vehicle. Also western convention is that we make progress left to right, so slowing progress by pulling the left paddle fits.
@chrwl0075 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. "-" paddle on our DSG-equipped VW means a lower gear and more engine braking.
@TheLateBrakeShow5 жыл бұрын
Jorge Kemp I’m left handed. Maybe I’m just weird
@js9865 жыл бұрын
CARPERVERT me too, we can be weird together
@unreliablenarrator66495 жыл бұрын
Today, I just saw my first Audi e-tron on the road, black exterior. Brilliant. Right sized, superb build quality, gave the driver a double thumbs-up and she blushed and smiled. ME: : "So"?" She: "Great. Love it." And then she was gone, leaving my X5 in her dust. Seriously impressive.
@crashbox71305 жыл бұрын
I'll wait for the e-Tron Jeff Bridges Edition with some early 1980s style retro computer graphics.
@pxidr5 жыл бұрын
VAG Group demonstrates that they are a lot better in marketing that in true innovations and real technological advances. The efficiency and the weight of this e-tron are absolutely awful, and technically way behind Tesla or Hyundai.
@kensmith56945 жыл бұрын
Yes but at least there is no test cheating software.
@hippievogelei5 жыл бұрын
Hyundai are u serious they have the kona that car is half in space
@Zuchu45015 жыл бұрын
"technically way behind". You are joking, right?
@pxidr5 жыл бұрын
@@Zuchu4501 No. Metrics of a good EV are mainly efficiency and weight. That Audi is too heavy and the efficiency is catastrophic, 95kWh battery for about 400km range is horrendous. The Kona does 480km with only 64kWh. Yeah, it's a smaller SUV but come on...
@bhew74095 жыл бұрын
my old housemate had an Audi and it cost a lot to maintain as it kept on breaking... lol.
@stockstreamtwitch5 жыл бұрын
It's nice dont get me wrong, but im still buying a Rivian. 👍👍👍
@smolfer735 жыл бұрын
Good choice, it look like you are paying a lot for the four rings and it doesn't have torq vectoring.
@tory67335 жыл бұрын
Rivian may be the first Tesla competitor. The Honda electric cars coming in 2020 are also pretty dope
@BOT-dv9lz5 жыл бұрын
Oh yes the Rivian 👍. It maybe my first pickup 😀.
@nnnkatze43295 жыл бұрын
You can buy the Audi today, there's no production Rivian yet.
@paladro5 жыл бұрын
apples and oranges, sure they are both ev, but do you think the respective designs appeal to the same markets? a pickup vs suv tesla is about to get buried or lose all their tech to the chinese.
@anthonyharding55 жыл бұрын
Jonny Smith is by far the best motoring journalist around, along with this channel with brilliant quality content, an absolute must to view. Thank you very much indeed🎥👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@jasonfournier5 жыл бұрын
The main advantages of side cameras instead of mirrors: 1) less drag, 2) being able to see the images on the console straight ahead and not taking your eyes off the road as much, 3) eliminating blind spots. However, they have not completely eliminated the drag and appear to have images in the doors still. Doesn't seem to fully take advantage of the technology.
@TeslaTravels5 жыл бұрын
IMO the main advantage of cameras is: no glare! When the sun is directly behind you, it'll blind you in your mirrors. With cameras, that problem is solved.
@TheBrentieman5 жыл бұрын
@@TeslaTravels auto dimming side mirrors have been available on some cars for years now and presumably at a lot lower cost than a camera and a screen
@hazzerhazzer27415 жыл бұрын
How much to replace one when some idiot takes it off with there wing mirror?
@ariip5 жыл бұрын
@@hazzerhazzer2741 Yes. I mentioned how these do not fold and stick our way too far compared to other such cameras. (which they even showed).
@TeslaTravels5 жыл бұрын
My car has auto dimming side mirrors, and they're great when the car behind you has their brights on, but they're no match for the sun when it's in just the right place. Those times, I simply tilt the mirror out temporarily, but of course I lose some situational awareness as a result. Having cameras instead solves the problem.
@jontait28435 жыл бұрын
I can see lines of these parked outside Tarquin & Penelope's prep school as their Ladies-Who-Lunch-Mums drop them off on the way to their Yoga class. They'll sell bucket loads of them!!
@UncleDavey5 жыл бұрын
And it's probably Pilates not yoga!
@mickbitchum46645 жыл бұрын
Champagne bucket loads of them!
@jamesx27035 жыл бұрын
Let hope they do! Less emissions outside schools
@WTFSt0n3d5 жыл бұрын
"Modularer Elektrobaukasten" is probably the most german way to describe that thing lol
@Kniffel1015 жыл бұрын
6:55 "The customers want something they're familiar with." When it comes to exterior: 100% correct! :)
@NiklasAuinger5 жыл бұрын
Wow.. this probably was the best fully charged episode ever
@tomquimby86695 жыл бұрын
the one with Helen on battery tech was better, Mr Smith is a bit of a light weight car tester
@maxtorque22775 жыл бұрын
Regarding mass: An EV has a bi-directional powertrain, that can transfer energy both into its mass (via gaining velocity) and also to recover some of that Kinetic energy when it slows down, and return charge to the battery storage system. However, such is the way of the universe (the law of entropy) that process can never be 100% efficient when the energy has to change state, in this case, kinetic energy stored in the cars mass converted to chemical energy in the battery. In fact, for a typical EV with a modern Permanent magnet motor and Pulse width modulated inverter, the overall round trip efficiency is around 75%. That 'round trip' consists of the following: Chemical Energy -> DC electricity -> AC electricity -> Rotational Mech energy -> Linear Energy (KE) -> Rotational Mech energy -> AC electricity -> DC electricity -> Chemical Energy Of course, to recover all that energy, the friction brakes must not be used by the driver (Regen only)! So, what does this mean? well it means two things: 1) In terms of energy consumption, the vehicles mass only looks like ~25% of what it actually is. Ie, a 2,000 kg EV driven for mas economy only using regen to slow, consumes energy during changes of speed at a similar magnitude to a ICE vehicle of 500kg! 2) A passenger car that is usually driven at speed between 30 and 70 mph actually uses most of its energy simply pushing air out the way. The aero drag is by far the largest consumer. Drag that is proportional to the vehicles mass is actually quite small, and is principally made up of mostly tyre loses (hysteresis in the tyre carcass) and a bit of load dependent friction rotating elements like bearings etc So when Audi say "mass helps" the truth is no, no it doesn't, but it is also true that mass for an EV is far, far less important than drag when we are talking about total energy consumption.
@SimonAnderson5 жыл бұрын
Great points! Thank you for sharing your insights, I didn't realize the "round-trip" was so efficient. Also, the e-tron's drag coefficient of 0.28 is fantastic compared to other SUV's. It's too bad they didn't use the ASF even if weight isn't as much of a factor on long-distance trips. The cost was probably too high to justify though, especially with the vehicle already priced where it is.
@drunkenhobo80205 жыл бұрын
Drag is proportional to velocity squared, whilst energy losses due to mass increase linearly with velocity. So if you're doing a lot of stop-start city driving then mass plays a bigger role than drag. Sure you can recoup some of it with regen braking, but as you point out that isn't hugely efficient. Reducing both drag and mass is obviously ideal, but mass isn't as insignificant as your comment seems to make out.
@oquemaur5 жыл бұрын
Now THAT was a worthy comment !!
@gasdive5 жыл бұрын
tl;dr Audi is lying again.
@dogphlap67495 жыл бұрын
@@drunkenhobo8020 I would not say 75% energy recovery under regen was not hugely efficient. Sure the original Tesla Roadster claimed 80% but still compared to any other ICE SUV where 0% of energy is returned under braking this is important and it makes the large mass of this vehicle acceptable (just). It is just a matter of trade offs, lighter is generally better but it costs money to go to aluminium or carbon fibre body panels and it costs more money again to repair them after an accident. Interesting that Audi chose a dry as dust spot for press test drives, if they tried that in Ireland they would have sunk up to their wheel hubs in the first piece of boggy land they touched. If Audi can just avoid screwing up the service experience (looking at you Tesla) they should have a winner.
@davidbarnes78665 жыл бұрын
Excellent honest review well done Jonny. To safe and to expensive to get the numbers Audi are looking for. The German guy is wrong. You can’t charge 70 grand and make a car with steel panels and bin parts from other motors. Hurried to the market place before they missed the boat but missed the point instead.
@VesaGuardian5 жыл бұрын
I guess you meant to say: "too safe and too expensive". That would make your sentence understandable. Just add those missing letters and you´ll be fine!
@davidbarnes78665 жыл бұрын
vesa vartiainen well nineteen people currently found the comment perfectly understandable and liked it. At nineteen to one I will take those odds all day long. I will not sleep tonight knowing that I have failed your high standards. Must be a full time job for you correcting everybody’s mistakes. Oh to be perfect.
@andymccabe67125 жыл бұрын
@@davidbarnes7866 oops -touched a nerve there.........Yes - I suppose the world's largest vehicle manufacturing group haven't a clue what they're doing......
@davidbarnes78665 жыл бұрын
Andy McCabe just an opinion. The sales will ultimately tell if they know what they are doing not you or me. Doubt if they will ever hit a hundred thousand sales or indeed ever make a profit from this particular vehicle.
@robhaitch55445 жыл бұрын
The "bin parts" thing is nonsense. The term was popularised by Clarkson to describe the likes of Aston Martin using door handles from Ford Mondeos, i.e. cheap parts being used in prestige/super cars. An e-tron using the same seats as an A6 or suspension from another high end Audi is not "raiding the parts bin" in any way. It's sensible use of modular parts that have already been designed and machinery built to produce them.
@Northbaylandscaping5 жыл бұрын
I like the fact Audi is at this point with the E tron and I can see Audi buyers liking it. Will be interesting to see how Audi makes out with their E-tron going forward.
@MortyMortyMorty5 жыл бұрын
4:23 It charges faster than my phone lmao
@logicalChimp5 жыл бұрын
Oddly, there are a couple of points where Johnny starts making a point, then seems to get distracted and forgets to complete it. Separately, 95kwh for sub 250 mile range? And people complained that the Jag iPace was inefficient... :D Edit: And it strikes me that with the 'camera' mirrors, you can't get a wider view etc by moving your body (the way you can with a mirror) - especially with e.g. low winter sun - with a normal mirror, you can try to sit up / scrunch down to get a view without the sun, but you can't do that with the camera setup)
@davepermen5 жыл бұрын
i think it was too hot over there for him, but ya, noticed him randomly drifting off, too ;)
@rogerstarkey53905 жыл бұрын
Re the mirrors Style over substance? KISS moment?
@streetwind.5 жыл бұрын
Apparently Audi reserves a huge portion of the pack as buffer. When people have tested in ideal conditions, they were only able to get at most 83 kWh out of the 95 kWh pack before the car reported 0% charge. There's no official explanation, but the leading theory goes is that Audi wants to hide battery degradation by successively unlocking more and more of the battery over its lifetime, so the range achievable from the driver's point of view stays completely stable for something like a decade. That seems believable from a luxury car standpoint: make sure the user has to worry about nothing whatsoever.
@joewhip93035 жыл бұрын
I am sorry, but under 250 miles out of a 95 kw pack is unimpressive. Should be north of 300.
@0ooTheMAXXoo05 жыл бұрын
Camera mirrors are wider angle than regular mirrors so they should eliminate side blind spots.
@IanScottJohnston5 жыл бұрын
It's a nice car.....but £70k.....Joe Public hasn't got a chance!
@FrozenDung5 жыл бұрын
It trickles down. Being Audis first proper EV of course it will be expensive. Its a fucking good start. And it will come down to the A4 eventually.
@fionafiona11465 жыл бұрын
By the time I can afford a car, I imagine them to be competitively priced (including battery replacement) on the other hand I don't expect to afford a car any time soon.
@ryanmalin5 жыл бұрын
fiona fiona buy a $1500 gasoline car. They’re cheap and they will get you there
@vladsaghin76445 жыл бұрын
A loaded E-Niro or Kona EV is half the price and offers more range than the E-Tron lol
@knifeyonline5 жыл бұрын
@@fionafiona1146 I feel the same, by the time i can afford an electric car, they will be autonomous and there will be ride sharing everywhere which will make owning a car pointless lol
@DavidDrivesElectric5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being honest. Fully Charged usually is very much on the positive side, sometimes to the point where I feel like you guys are trying too hard to make every EV look awesome. Very happy to see that you are being honest about not being blow away by this car.
@justslater0035 жыл бұрын
The more I watch this channel and its content, the more I am swayed towards my next vehicle being an EV....only the though of how quickly this tech moves along stops me, and its also the reason why I'll still have a piston motor for the next few years......one day Fully Charged, one day. Great videos people 👍
@kom2falcon5 жыл бұрын
Jonny Smith, what a great addition to the team. I hope these companies can welcome the honest reviews and not expect a babbling drooling love fest all the time. I think you hit all the right points good and bad and who will enjoy this Audi the most. When we start to take certain features as expected and are looking for more it shows EVs are getting out of the honeymoon phase and into real competition. Keep it up.
@TheLateBrakeShow5 жыл бұрын
kom2falcon Thank you v much
@manpetepetrop80345 жыл бұрын
2.5 Ton car... for Fook's sake!! Is it a Panzer Tank or a Soccer Mom's new toy?
@RedBatteryHead5 жыл бұрын
They should call it the Maus. In honor of that megaton panzer
@maxant42855 жыл бұрын
So 2.2 ton Tesla is ok?
@francesconicoletti25475 жыл бұрын
One day there will be in a museum of transportation somewhere this Audi e-tron and an electric car from the early twentieth century. It will show how the electric car looks like a handsome cab without a horse and the Audi looks like an ice car without an engine. It will be a display on how form does not follow function but rather the inflexible minds of the designers, even over the course of a century.
@TylerAult5 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your honest opinions in this vid. Keep it up & don't feel obligated to sugar coat a review just because they let you test drive and record in an exotic place!
@tommash.r.26065 жыл бұрын
Why diden´t you ask the Audi representative about the choice to go for steel over aluminium..? Seemed like a missed opportunity. Love the car though.
@DLiberator785 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that also.
@TheBrentieman5 жыл бұрын
It might be cost cutting. Steel is cheaper than aluminium
@shamil4545 жыл бұрын
@@TheBrentieman steel might be cheaper, but isn't it much better in terms of durability?
@Luca148S5 жыл бұрын
@Johnny the minus paddle increases regen because it resembles putting in a lower gear in an ICE car. So engine/motor braking in both type of cars with the left paddle 😀
@Chilukar5 жыл бұрын
So glad I'm not the only one to think that way.
@danam25845 жыл бұрын
"Night time hookups. Not like that." LOL! Love the video's guys.
@johnknight91505 жыл бұрын
Glad to see Jonny gives it an honest review rather than fawning over it simply because it's electric, nice work. [edit]: And those camera mirrors are just another thing to go wrong. And be expensive.
@savoryflan5 жыл бұрын
I would buy this for $40K
@snviper5 жыл бұрын
So would I. Hope we get to that point in a few years.
@gasdive5 жыл бұрын
No. It would want to be a lot cheaper than a Kona. Similar range, but longer to charge. It would take a big discount to choose this.
@tomquimby86695 жыл бұрын
@@snviper in a few years this car will be out dated, tech is improving at a rapid rate
@0Turbox5 жыл бұрын
@@tomquimby8669 In ten years, you can fit a bigger batterie into it.
@timothysullivan74335 жыл бұрын
So let me understand Audi says more mass equals more energy. They solved the energy problem. Yeah right.
@guantou25205 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for this platform to appear in a Macan, now that would be worth my hard earned
@WeaponGrade5 жыл бұрын
I wished you had elaborated on two points. 1. How autonomous ready is the car? 2. Why Audi choose steel when everyone else sees that as a disadvantage? Regen cannot be the whole story. Thanks.
@TheLateBrakeShow5 жыл бұрын
Nima Nikuie They wouldn’t answer the second point. I can only presume it came down to price. Shame.
@daseteam5 жыл бұрын
I would have like Johnny to ask him why it was built with steel. It might have been an interesting answer. Probably just cost though.
@ukeuwatch5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I was thinking it was to do with manufacturing tolerance of steel vs aluminium. I guess he didn't want to annoy the Audi guy too much, though. Journos need cordial relationships to get access, to some extent. Also I think Jonny is just a nice chap in general and doesn't like to rub people up the wrong way or make things awkward.
@thankyouforyourcompliance73865 жыл бұрын
Too heavy, looks boring, no need for camouflage as there is nothing spectacular in design. The grill is ridiculous.nextmove in Germany did a nice comparison between an old Model X, the new Etron and the iPace. The consumption of the Etron is nearly as bad as with iPace. The old Model X blew them away. The sound proofing is brilliant, though.
@maxmouche5 жыл бұрын
100% agree
@nathanbawden89315 жыл бұрын
The quality of your content is really shining through - kudos. Good even handed and enjoyable review by Jonny and the production quality continues to impress - the transition edit at 11:48 is superb!
@kasperholmj5 жыл бұрын
another honest review by Jonny.... These are so worth so much more than all the others out there attempting to do reviews... Thanks, Jonny.
@bluejay88365 жыл бұрын
Is anyone else fascinated by the urban planning and infrastructure of these newly built cities?
@didierpuzenat72805 жыл бұрын
For me if you do not see peoples it is not a city.
@curmudgeon19335 жыл бұрын
Blue Jay88.. Fully Charged has done a few videos on new sustainable projects in the Gulf. Robert Llewellyn went to Masdar City, where this video was filmed, about 5 years ago and also to a place in Dubai. They are experimental but useful for proof of concept. It's encouraging to see these countries using some of their wealth to find possible solutions for when the oil starts to run out. It's a shame the UK didn't create some kind of sovereign wealth fund, before we ran out of North Sea oil and gas, as has been done in Norway.
@redxsage5 жыл бұрын
Fascinated and impressed.
@redxsage5 жыл бұрын
@@didierpuzenat7280 -- You haven't spent much time in Los Angeles or, Las Vegas have you? Most _FAT_ people spend their time indoors, under air conditioning, or refrigeration, and spend little to no time walking anywhere outside if it can be avoided. If the Sun can be seen, they cannot.
@lcd19575 жыл бұрын
I'm not convinced at all for £82,240. In real life day to day ownership (Not off-roading in nature reserves) much cheaper South Korean BEV's have the high ground.
@dvrsflrs5 жыл бұрын
This is a really honest interview. It's not begging for attention, it's just a calm honest review. Thanks man!
@JJ-SH5 жыл бұрын
Another great review. Jonny Smith, you sir are the best motoring journalist going.
@alasdairpage5 жыл бұрын
I remember the Tamiya Hornet! :D
@stevenford7375 жыл бұрын
Camera side mirrors are an excellent idea but this implementation of the idea is unbelievably bad. The camera should be at or near the top of the A pillar to avoid road spray and impacts. The screens should be as near the same sightline as the interior rear view mirror as possible.
@peterryan73405 жыл бұрын
11:45 Johnny like the lights on for night time hook ups! 😂😂😂
@PL-fh8cz5 жыл бұрын
My thoughts on range & price... I remember 20+ years ago when I bought an IBM PC. The price was about $4,000 USD for a desktop model and CRT. It weighed 20 Kgs and would barely run basic Windows, but I thought it was so cool. That's the equivalent of the product maturity of the EV market. Will the price / range / performance get better with each generation... Hell yeah. To all the nay-sayer's -- Enough whining. Buy into the Audi, JLR, Tesla and others, EV future. We / society have no choice except to start down the EV technology path now. In spite of Trumpty Dumpty's denials, we can't keep going down the path of global climate change. Another great Fully Charged video thanks Jonny. You should do this with Mr Sniff as well for his commentary & humor.
@isaidholla40885 жыл бұрын
The Tesla model x was supposed to have cameras for side mirrors but lawmakers said no.
@TerraIAm5 жыл бұрын
But if it was tesla it would be ok. It would have been amazing.
@drxym5 жыл бұрын
Maybe the law has changed, or European law is different to US law.
@pepstein5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't think they'd be allowed in the US. The logic behind them is of course reduced aerodynamic drag.
@ferkeap5 жыл бұрын
Only allowed in the EU for now. maybe japan as well, don't know for sure.
@andrewrobotbuilder5 жыл бұрын
Wonder if they can be used as dash cams as well. Could be useful
@M20B25-User5 жыл бұрын
I don´t like Audi ... and I don´t like this guy Stefan Niemand (Chief of Electromobility at Audi). I was on a event where he was making jokes and fun of Tesla ... Quote: "Tesla is not able to run mass production ... we can ... Teslas reduce power at top speed ... we don´t ... bla bla bla. What he did not tell: The E-tron is limited to 200km/h ... so you willnever find out if the E-Tron needs to reduce power like the Teslas at ~230km/h. Sorry, but I don´t like arrogant people believing that they are the best and others don´t know how to build proper cars/ EVs. Thats why I will never ever buy an Audi.
@ToumalRakesh5 жыл бұрын
But.... it's an Audi. It MUST be better. Don't you understand? Just kidding. Getting my Model 3 in a week or two. Can't wait.
@elliottslab5 жыл бұрын
Also like Audi would be making this right now if it wasn’t for Tesla
@pxidr5 жыл бұрын
Agreed, Volkswagen AG is the most arrogant company out there, no doubt.
@glenf41155 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of a Simon Sinek talk of finite players vs infinite players. Tesla is obsessed with their vision of the future and Audi is just trying to beat Tesla. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rpuedMSprtHRdnk.html
@FutureSystem7385 жыл бұрын
Not to mention that Audi/VW are mass murderers, thanks to dieselgate. Yes I know it was a few years ago now, but if not for a few clever uni students, they’d still be doing it to this day. Liars and cheats!
@NeilBlanchard5 жыл бұрын
Video mirrors are a good thing! I drove with my own home brew units, and there are lots of advantages: smaller frontal area and lower coefficient of drag - which increases range. When they are done right, you have much smaller blind spots. You don't have to change anything between drivers. You don't get blinded by headlights. In the rain and fog, you have less of an issue with obscured vision. Edit: the location of the screens is key. I put my two 7" screens side by side right in front of me. This was in a Scion xA, and I can see both sides of the car - by looking in 1 place.
@GranVlog5 жыл бұрын
Best series on youtube
@M0LHA5 жыл бұрын
Cars without wing mirrors make a lot of sense for electric, unfortunately I feel Audi have missed a trick with this car. They appear to neither be ergonomically placed in the cabin, or particularly efficient outside the car. Ideally the cameras would form part of the main body so they don't "stick out". How you resolve the interior is a tricky one, maybe some sort of HUD on the windows ala BMW M6 display. Maybe the right answer is to revisit what they are for and whether a conventional view is even required? Maybe a simple blind spot warning would suffice if the coverage is sufficiently wide? Like Jonny, I'm not particularly impressed with the e-tron - they've bringing a car to market that's barely matching what Tesla launched years ago. THAT SAID, it is precisely the kind of car that would get my ICE friends into an EV. it looks like a 'normal car', non-offensive and unlikely to draw unwanted attention. I feel you could happily drive this in incognito mode and think nothing more about it. That price tag does sting though, 50k~ would be a better base (and that's still a lot of money). Great review, almost unfully charged like which sometimes falls foul of being a little non-critical (cough, sion).
@Natorisama5 жыл бұрын
Tesla have mirrors ONLY because of conservative US roads restrictions. They will get rid of them as soon as laws would change.
@svenjorgenson32245 жыл бұрын
Don't thing the camera mirrors are ideal on EV's just yet as battery range is still an issue especially somewhere like Canada and so every ounce of power needs to be utilized for range....not cameras.
@klaxoncow5 жыл бұрын
I'm also thinking that cameras would make more sense, if they actually showed you more than a wing mirror could. There's a limit to how big you could make wing mirrors, of course. You couldn't exactly have a car with massive "Dumbo ears" on either side - this would obscure more than it's revealing. But you could, with cameras, capture a heck of a lot more of what's going on behind and to the sides of the car and present some nice big HD screens on the interior. THAT would make tremendous sense. Because it's actually showing you more, while obscuring the view less, and giving you, of course, better aerodynamics. But, weirdly, perhaps tied to "tradition", what happens is that they just try to emulate the wing mirrors, as they are, with cameras. So, indeed, what's the point? The best you can do emulating something is to be exactly as good as it - so the very best is simply "as good". So, by definition of this, it can't be better than physical wing mirrors and you've got to ask "why bother?". But if they took advantage of what cameras can do that physical mirrors stuck on the side of your car can't really do so well, then you could see exactly why it's worth having them. (For example, imagine a long screen, right across the dashboard, that displayed the entire unobscured side and rear view. That's possible with cameras. No blind spots. A proper 360 view right around your car. If you saw something like that then, ah, the utility of using cameras instead of mirrors would become obvious... and actually useful.)
@Natorisama5 жыл бұрын
Sven Jorgenson Camera is a low-power device. All 9 of them together consuming less than a laptop. Different story about dealing with all data that coming from them + radars. But it is also pretty much manageable today, if you distribute processing lines into different units, like it is done in iPad Pro for example.
@svenjorgenson32245 жыл бұрын
@@Natorisama The reason I mention this is in a place like Canada with its extreme weather wouldn't you want every bit of power being utilized for range?
@ramblerandy23975 жыл бұрын
I don't often disagree with Jonny, but I think the Audi is just not that nice to look at. I generally don't like the SUV vehicle look anyway, but both the Model X and iPace are prettier examples, for me. And there's taking a traditional look too far by keeping the wind dragging token grille, and yet adding wing cameras, which stick out in the wind as well. So, for me, it doesn't work. It's bitzy and flawed, as if Audi rushed it to market, in order to put their part in diesel-gate behind them. The nice thing is that it does a lot of things well, so there's a very good basis. So, sort it out properly Audi, especially as I understand You and Porsche have reverse-engineered a Model 3 and was shocked at how more advanced it was than your EV product.
@SimonAnderson5 жыл бұрын
When I saw the first photos of the e-tron online, I was really disappointed also. However, my local dealership brought two e-trons in for the day for customers to check out and in my opinion, it looks much better in person. Especially in all black. Of course it's always subjective, but as someone who thought it looked bland in photos, I was pleasantly surprised. Still nowhere as nice as the GT (but who knows how that will look in production).
@TheLateBrakeShow5 жыл бұрын
Rambler Andy I think it’s tasteful looking - better than an X, worse than an iPace. It is familiar, which bodes well for introducing people from Q5/7s to EVs
@ramblerandy23975 жыл бұрын
@@TheLateBrakeShow Well, it's just a matter of taste anyway. As said before, I generally don't like the SUV look anyway. Had Audi made it overtly 'future ev-ish', like BMW are attempting with that ghastly Vision iNEXT, then that would have been way over the top, so I congratulate them on that, at least. However, it's a styling and tech collision, for me, rather than a harmonisation. A good basis, but unfinished, in my opinion.
@trashmail85 жыл бұрын
I’m really surprised that they haven’t simply covered that top grill section with a smooth, transparent cover to effectively keep that traditional look, but hugely improve frontal aerodynamics. Cooling can then still be done by the lower section, like Tesla does.
@asharak845 жыл бұрын
As a current Audi driver - this thing is hideous as well as inefficient, short ranged, overpriced. Why on earth would someone buy this? Granted, not a fan of any SUV style vehicles, but this is much worse looking than average.
@Miata8225 жыл бұрын
I'm considering a Jag. This video didn't change my mind. The beating the I-Paces put up with in thier racing series is impressive.
@JohnCline5 жыл бұрын
Another outstanding (and honest) presentation from Jonny Smith, who has become my favorite automobile reviewer.
@ShadowRaptor85 жыл бұрын
Just waiting for FullyCharged to get their hands on a E-Tron GT and/or Taycan
@TheLateBrakeShow5 жыл бұрын
Rishab Gangopadhyay Me too man!
@redxsage5 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Waiting...
@cinilaknedalm5 жыл бұрын
This car is D.O.A. Why would anyone buy this instead of a Model X?
@mattrobinson52545 жыл бұрын
Cheaper, nicer interior, faster charging, no silly doors.
@andymccabe67125 жыл бұрын
@@mattrobinson5254 AND, hey-it's got a hatchback!! Isn't that what EVERYONE buys - like, for the practicality??
@meomarte5 жыл бұрын
I guess every car has been designed for a target group. Clearly the target group of e-Tron is not EV-enthusiasts. So says the big grill at the front. This has been designed for the people who are EV-shy, embarrassed to choose a non polluting vehicle. I don´t know if such people exist. Never met one.
@mvmallinson5 жыл бұрын
cinilaknedalm Have you seen the build quality of a Model X? There is the answer to your question.
@VSS15 жыл бұрын
Rivian
@stillmation5 жыл бұрын
Level headed, honest opinion. It's what makes Fully Changed by far the best EV news source. And Jonny knows there is motor at the front and back, not an 'engine' as Mr Audi representative said.
@nitramluap5 жыл бұрын
9:00 - the problem with most off-roading here in Australia is that they like the noise and smoke. It attracts a special kind of person.
@stjabraham5 жыл бұрын
Fully Charged is like Top Gear/The Grand Tour: except with good presenters, entertainment and relevancy...
@pawefiett24685 жыл бұрын
It's such a good review!
@ThePlayerOfGames5 жыл бұрын
As a calm person that drives a whacky car like the Zoe, I actually dig this calm version of an Audi. It doesn't look too traditionally unimaginative, like an Audi. I could imagine owners of these cars *not* driving up others bums on the motorway. If it was cheaper, it would be a total winner.
@savedfaves5 жыл бұрын
In the US some call the front trunk the "frunk", and Jonny here calls the front boot a froot, "fruit". Brill.
@dougowt5 жыл бұрын
We are only going to see truly great EVs from the established manufacturers when they change from vehicle architecture and production lines designed for ICE vehicles. The e-tron is rather underwhelming, the range, the weight, the price (possibly a significant production delay) and I agree with the comments regarding the optional mirrors. Those on the test car, do not represent any advantage over a conventional mirror. It must surely be possible to have cameras that don't stick out waiting to be knocked off by a passing van driver. And the screens would be better further up the A post? They are really going to have to try a lot harder. It makes you wonder if they are taking EVs seriously. They are in danger of getting left behind because I think business and the public are not that far off from understanding that EVs have many more advantages than disadvantages, running costs being a rather significant one.
@Alex-tf8fr5 жыл бұрын
Doug Palmer Elon said the camera mirrors can save 1.7 miles of range then a conventional mirror
@Appalling685 жыл бұрын
I have been sorta mulling over this car as a future replacement of my 2017 Volvo XC90 (D5 AWD). I want to get away from ICE and in to EV's. But there's NO WAY I'm shelling out some €75k to do it, especially given how heavy this car is. No way. :-(
@M20B25-User5 жыл бұрын
Wait for the Tesla Model Y ;-)
@Appalling685 жыл бұрын
@@M20B25-User Can't bring myself to buy Tesla. I hate the interior of their cars, and can't stand the android-tablet-glued-on-the-dashboard look. In fact interior "look and feel" (not to mention real dash displays) are what draw me to European manufacturers.
@tomquimby86695 жыл бұрын
yes the weight is a real problem when you run out of charge and have to push it to the next charger. You want to replace your 2 year old volvo XC90 diesel?? nice to know there are uninformed miserly lotto winners about. You bought a diesel???
@Appalling685 жыл бұрын
Tom Quimby Uninformed? And you, tough guy?
@tomquimby86695 жыл бұрын
@@Appalling68 clearly uninformed or just plain arrogant to leave everybody you pass in your diesel, covered in carcinogenic partials , just to save a bit of money. I do not need to be tough to point your clear poor decision in buying a diesel, I just have to be informed about the toxic nature of diesel fumes
@benpaynter5 жыл бұрын
Jonny really knows how to review a car! Top work as usual guys!!
@VirtuellJo5 жыл бұрын
This is THE EV for the moment. Could I afford it I would buy it! There is basically no competition at this level.
@Baj645 жыл бұрын
I bet they'll change the name in french speaking countries... E-Tron = Etron = Turd...
@didierpuzenat72805 жыл бұрын
Not worth than "I piss"...
@gasdive5 жыл бұрын
Seems appropriate
@davefiddes5 жыл бұрын
You can't polish an E-tron!
@Baj645 жыл бұрын
@@davefiddes Excellent ! lol.
@grahamarnold25915 жыл бұрын
THE WEIGHT UNLOCKS " THE HUMMER TAX CREDIT" IN USA $26 K BUSINESS TAX CREDIT hmmmmm !!!! I wonder ---
@Markle2k5 жыл бұрын
Section 179 has been scaled way back for vehicles with passenger space that aren't used as taxis or car service vehicles.
@adamfry11255 жыл бұрын
Jonny's reviews are superb. Love the detail and how he takes with passion about things that don't normally get a mention. Thanks.
@jafuk5 жыл бұрын
A good honest review. Thanks again, Jonny.
@TheLateBrakeShow5 жыл бұрын
Paul Jefferies Thank you Paul
@clonatul15 жыл бұрын
Why don't they just put the "mirror" screens at the base of the A pillar
@ramblerandy23975 жыл бұрын
1) Why are the door cameras stuck so far into the wind? The whole point of the tech is to lose the drag. 2) Why have the display screens placed so far left/right? It negates the whole reason for the tech. As I said before, it's bitzy and flawed. Which is a shame because there's a potentially nice car there. All in my humble opinion, of course.
@rednammoc5 жыл бұрын
@@ramblerandy2397 On 1: they must do this to replicate the perspective (viewpoint) that existing mirrors give. As the front element of the lens system is moved closer to the car body, more and more of the relevant scene becomes blocked from view, and no amount of image processing can fix this. On 2: I expect it's to accommodate our current familiarity and expectations, but the bigger problem for me is forcing one to regularly refocus from the medium-long distance of the outside scene to a significantly nearer focus of an internal screen - and back again, causing unnecessary eyestrain. For some of us, this is far from instantaneous, and gets worse with age for everyone. As mentioned elsewhere, perhaps HUD-style optics could solve this.
@robhaitch55445 жыл бұрын
@@ramblerandy2397 Re: point 1. I agree. They should use one camera near the tail light and another near the A-pillar and then merge the video streams - similar to how virtual shots are created for overhead views. This would give an amazing field of view without the need to have an offset side mirror or camera.
@ramblerandy23975 жыл бұрын
@@robhaitch5544 Indeed. Or you could have tiny bulges in the B pillars. Basically, they could have thought about it a bit more rather than producing little more than a gimmick.
@didierpuzenat72805 жыл бұрын
A Sono would have been better for this place. And Sono has 3 independent rear seats. SUVs are not the good path. But we are not supposed to compare cars according to their releventness, but by category, how stupid... I think it would be quite more logic to compare this 5 seats Etron to a model 3 (even if it is not a SUV) rather than a model X, but off course it would loose on all valuable points : range, safety, acceleration, efficiency, price, etc. And in Europe the model 3 can acces both Tesla and CCS networks...
@derMaulwuff5 жыл бұрын
Are you sure on the three seats? I thought they cancelled them when having the vlog on updated battery price?
@didierpuzenat72805 жыл бұрын
@@derMaulwuff My post is based on what I saw in a quite recent Fully Charged "episode" : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rbKKfseczKicZZ8.html I do not know if they have changed the design since this video.
@didierpuzenat72805 жыл бұрын
With 3 children I have to admit that this 3 seats is almost the only reason I am still following what they do, so I hope they haven't switch to only two.
@derMaulwuff5 жыл бұрын
@@didierpuzenat7280 Same for me. The fully charged episode was recorded long time before the battery update :-( There was a twitter thread on the back seats on the sono motors account, too, but I didn't get a clear answer there, neither.
@didierpuzenat72805 жыл бұрын
@@derMaulwuff Ok, too bad. In fact I have tested Zoé but it was too small for 3 children, I have tested the Kona EV but it was *horrible* for 3 children (we came back before the scheduled time, too inconfortable in the middle rear seat). I think it will be a model 3, too expansive but not so much if you take into account it can be the only vehicule of the family.
@esaedvik5 жыл бұрын
Love the Firebird shirt :D I went from an '89 Firebird to a Prius in a bit over 10 years :D
@bruintoo5 жыл бұрын
One of the reason I got the Jaguar I-Pace is because of Fully Charge’s reviews of the car. I’m glad I got my “bespoked” I-Pace to replace my Audi A3 e-tron instead of this Audi e-tron Quattro.
@LucifersTear5 жыл бұрын
I think it's ugly as sin. Dunno, really can't like it; as much as I've tried. Jag, Kia, Tesla and Rivian have this thing beat...It's just fat and boring.
@neillivewire68435 жыл бұрын
Yes it looks "FAT", it looks "fookin" heavy like the last generation Peugeots, bulbous.
@tymanot5 жыл бұрын
Nice Car, poor EV in my eyes. Fully charged is a bit late with this review though...
@electricfelix5 жыл бұрын
late (in my opinion) is when you see them on the road everywhere already, I haven't and I even live in a country full of EV's!
@Markle2k5 жыл бұрын
Late? Isn't this right around the embargo date for discussing performance figures?
@mgammeren5 жыл бұрын
@@electricfelix A neighbour a few houses down he road had someone visiting with the E-tron. He invited me to come and look/drive because he knows I'm an EV fan, driving a Zoe myself for daily commute. And I think that while the range is a bit "disappointing" it is more than enough for normal driving and even on a normal weekend break it will be enough. Most weekend breaks are within the 300km radius of home.
@electricfelix5 жыл бұрын
@@mgammeren yes obviously for all daily rides this is more than enough especially in a country like NL and also charging is very fast! Very cool that you already had a taste near your house!
@mgammeren5 жыл бұрын
@@electricfelix Even in countries like Germany/france this is a great car. After 3-4h driving I like to take a little "coffee" break, I drink tea don't like coffee. But then a 30min break is perfect. After that you go on the way again. I have done already some distance with a Tesla model S 100D. 900km and the way I drive it took me about the same time then driving the same distance in an ICE car. But with the Tesla I was far more happy when arriving. No fatigue whatsoever. And yes I was first thinking that it was an Q8 but then he called me over to show the E-tron. Very nice car!
@markgaudie805 жыл бұрын
Typical Audi. Extremely well designed. Just a shame I can’t afford one. Jonny you are excellent as always. Could watch your car reviews all day mate 👍
@InVIism5 жыл бұрын
Great episode! Thank you! Every new episode is like a celebration and a sign of the development. Excited for the Rivian news/videos btw!
@WeirdSeagul5 жыл бұрын
its worse than the I-pace and more expensive. hmm
@Luca148S5 жыл бұрын
not really. I would say they are on the same level. For example the i Pace' infotainment is worse, it has even worse consumption than the rather inefficient e-tron (despite beeing heavier) and less interior space. (the channel "next move" tested the real life motorway consumption) Also the e-tron can charge much faster, especially because the i Pace at the moment doesn't even reach 100kw (but closer to 75kw)
@cte4dota5 жыл бұрын
Worse ? LOL Since when is Audi worse than Jaguar ? I-pace is so bad and lagy,Audi is pestige.
@justsomeguy17155 жыл бұрын
I-pace is fine but the audi e-tron is just amazing
@Milkshakman5 жыл бұрын
Luca Also worth noting we’re comparing an ELECTRIC car from Audi/Jaguar... Jaguar are well known for having terrible electronics issues
@cte4dota5 жыл бұрын
@@Luca148S well... You Britslove your car but rest of the world is no go for Jaguar.Audi will dominate i can bet.
@dwightperry98115 жыл бұрын
It look like they took a normal boring Audi and put two electric motor in it. Why in hell they made it from steel? 🤔
@berengamble18825 жыл бұрын
Had a bit of a kick of nostalgia when I saw the Tamiya T-shirt!
@JamesBrown-ux9ds5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful, wonderful, review; world class journalism, we enjoyed very much, thank you for your service, always highly appreciated!
@cashbonanza9635 жыл бұрын
if anyone tells you they prefer a Jag over an Audi don't ask them where they are from. It's so obvious.
@cashbonanza9635 жыл бұрын
@John W but you know what the rest of the world thinks about the two industries
@anthonydayspring99235 жыл бұрын
Where... the land where people think rationally with their wallet, want better/ equal range and love great designs?
@Dave-in-France5 жыл бұрын
No-one has yet mentioned that since this video was made, Audi have announced that they are having problems with this car's battery meeting it's targets. As a result Audi are putting production back 18 to 24 months !!!!! Meanwhile Tesla is pumping out it's cars with Model 3 now arriving in Europe literally by the boatload. Honestly I think this is a poor bloaty product that may never get produced for the public in it's current (sic) form.
@aigarius5 жыл бұрын
Never mentioned because such thing does not exist? It is already in production and deliveries were always targeted at Q2 2019 after the software recertification requirement was clarified.
@mjrc1235 жыл бұрын
Source?
@jonpetter89215 жыл бұрын
Quality is more important than quantity. German doesn t rush and take their time to build high quality product. Tesla has have issue with build quality as well as service. They are doing well in luxury segment in Europe not because they are better car but because people consider them as the brand that challenged ICE vehicles. Wait until the Audi Porsce mercedes are rolling out their new EV then people will realise the quality difference. Range won t be an issue neither as Superchargers are being built in Europe right now.
@redxsage5 жыл бұрын
@@jonpetter8921 -- I have been _'waiting'_ for traditional automobile manufacturers to make a move toward electric drive for thirty years. They should have made their moves in 2013, six years ago. They didn't. Instead, they spent year after year getting their backsides kicked by Tesla. And spent the whole time downplaying the importance of electric drive and ignoring all of Tesla's accomplishments, claiming their cars were _'better'_ because of _'quality, heritage, tradition, craftsmanship, attention to detail, luxury'_ and a bunch of other marketing baloney. Seems that fooled you. Poor guy. All this time since Tesla Model S launched in 2012, and _THIS_ is their answer? Really? An AUDI Tall Estate/Wagon with AWD? Tesla has steadily learned from their mistakes and improved. I don't know why the Service issues exist in Europe, but in the U.S. several States prevent Tesla from doing either Sales or Service by law. It is amazing that with such roadblocks in place they managed to make tge Model 3 the fifth best selling passenger car for the last six months of 2018. There was some word out of the Q4 2018 conference call that issues with Service, particularly,with receiving replacement parts, would be a priority in Europe going forward.
@runemaster965 жыл бұрын
The production and presentation is amazing
@amolbhavsar16205 жыл бұрын
One of very honest reviews i saw on KZfaq. Keep it up.
@airheart15 жыл бұрын
yeah..I gotta disagree with Jonny for once.. Audi doesn't really give a shit about selling EVs.. Audi wants you to believe they do.. but they don't. I came out of a few Audi's.. I loved em.. but this company is blowing a lot of smoke right now.. and Jonny seems to not be seeing through it very well. I get it.. they were nice to invite you.. you gotta be polite to some degree.. but there needs to be criticism where it is deserved.. and this car deserves a LOT of criticism. Oh yeah.. sure it's great, there's another EV on the market! It's nice.. it's better then another ICE model.. but this thing is a COMPLETE disappointment considering Audi has had at least 7 years of watching what Tesla has had on the road in the field.. and THIS is their best effort? Common.. it's pathetic that a company as big.. as premium.. as experienced.. as Audi.. to have THIS as their best effort to break into EVs and show up Tesla. P a t h e t i c.. my opinion... but lack or range.. lack of performance.. lack of tech (ooo it's got a camera mirror.. big f'n deal).. Ok, it's got a bit better regen.. it's a little faster charging, IF you can find one.. and it's a bit quieter cabin... common.. really? that's the best you could do Audi? really???? That's what you consider showing up Tesla in the market?? WTF!? Or are you pulling your punches because you KNOW if you built what you COULD build.. no one would buy your ICE cars.. and that's still your money maker.. and you're still being leaned on by big oil to keep that gravy train rolling... that's the f'n problem here.. this is a half hearted effort to just.. tick a box.. this thing is a joke compare to what they SHOULD have built. Rivian is building a 0-60 in 3ish seconds truck.. RIVIAN!.. who the f is Rivian? Tesla's X already does it in 3.5 or less.. and has for years now! Audi comes out with a 5.7 sec 0-60? That's your break out EV! That's your best foot forward? REALLY?? Ok.. 0-60 aint everything... what's the range? WHAT? what's its efficiency on the road? WHAT? Are you kidding me? They suck at everything this bad except.. oh it's got a nicer interior then a Tesla.. pff.. maybe in some peoples opinion.. but I thought that interior looked a bit lame.. not horrible.. but nothing that amazing.. good quality.. sure.. but I don't like the layout at all! Ok.. my opinion.. yeah.. but you get to the numbers on everything and it's not opinion any more.. the numbers say this thing is years and years behind where it should be
@andymccabe67125 жыл бұрын
Look, it's really very very simple:- Legacy car makers make ICE cars. They have to transition their business model in a way, and at a rate which is viable for the continued success of the business. So they do what they do with this fundamental requirement in mind. They don't exist to keep the screaming EV nerd community happy.......
@airheart15 жыл бұрын
@@andymccabe6712 it's a valid point.. I would counter with.. they are f'n it up.. and they are going to wind up out of business in less than 10 years, because trying to play both sides of this coin, is a losing game. They are going to fall too far behind the future of mobility, by clinging to its past success... just watch and see. A couple will make it on their own merit and decisions.. a couple will buy some of the EV startups and manage the transition that way... but a lot of who we know now as the major automobile makers.. will be gone in 10 years. That's my Nostradamus moment of how I see it shaking out.. all in no small part due to Tesla.. and also in no small part, due to the Chinese EV automakers that I think are going to start dominating in 2-3 years time. They have the tech.. they have the full backing of their Gov... they are increasing their quality.. and they are going to force down the doors of every market and undercut everything out there.. watch the dominoes fall. ICE manufacturers will be dinosaurs in less then 10 years. Oh.. and go F yourself with the EV nerd comment.. schmuck.. grow up... apologies to the other decent Fully Charged viewers.. lol.. but I can't stand people who think that EVs are for nerds.. you gotta be some seriously uneducated moron
@tomquimby86695 жыл бұрын
@@airheart1 you forgot to mention that they don't have their own battery plant, they are buying on the tight open market 100k cars a year, no chance no batteries for them
@redxsage5 жыл бұрын
@@andymccabe6712 -- Every single one of their _'transition plans'_ has been shot to hell by Tesla. They must $#!+ or get off the pot. No more delay tactics. No more Concepts. No more Hybrids. No more Plug-in Hybrids. Turn the corner, hit the brakes, throw it in reverse, pick a new direction. Build fully electric cars with the express intent to _REPLACE ICE FOREVER._ Because you won't have, can't have, a Real Tesla Killer until or unless you are ready to _KILL EVERY ICE_ you currently make. That's what Tesla wants to do.
@meomarte5 жыл бұрын
I agree that Audi or any of the legacy makers have no desire to design and build EVs instead of ICE. They have no ideology, no goal other than making profit. The best way not to be disappointed is not to expect much from them. Already their design language speaks of conservatism and fear of any novel ideas. Also it is quite common to see companies coming out with products with "room for improvement" if they don´t have any new ideas on where to take it next. That will lay a path for them to follow for the next few years, until it becomes more obvious what should be developed and what dropped.
@sibtainraza86735 жыл бұрын
In technology,comfort,looks Audi has done a great work with it infact it's a great car... But for me The jaguar i-pace is the best EV present now in the market ahead of Tesla because its relaible And its a perfect blend of everything from economic to technological aspects
@airheart15 жыл бұрын
LoL.. Jaguar.. reliable.. LoL!! Tell me one measurable thing, the Jaguar is better at than a Tesla at? Charging speed, no.. charging locations, no.. range, no.. tech, no.. performance, no.. efficiency, hell no.. features, no.. oooh.. it's got a Jaguar badge.. and you may subjectively find it more visually appealing.. I don't. But if ALL the other things the Tesla's are better at, don't mean anything to you.. and you really want a Jag.. I get it. It's not a bad EV.. and it's reasonably good looking.. but it is an inferior product. There's just no other way to put it.
@sibtainraza86735 жыл бұрын
@@airheart1 prizes mann...and Tesla does that no other companies do, For smallest of work on your car you need to visit Tesla delar ship u cant get your parts in open market they keep control of everything from the major parts to even a mear Shrew of your car
@airheart15 жыл бұрын
@@sibtainraza8673 if that's your biggest concern when buying a car.. I'm laughing at you. I'll tell you how many parts my Tesla has needed in nearly 2 years.. 1. Of which, they gave me a loaner, my same model and battery, and brought my car back to me on a covered trailer 5 days later, about 800 miles away from the service center, to where I work. And they did it all for free. 0 inconvenience to me. If you think Jag does a better job.. and you think the I-Pace is better then a Tesla.. I'm telling you, my experience says, No.
@sibtainraza86735 жыл бұрын
@@airheart1 Yaaa you are very welcome to ... But only if you earn a million bucks and can buy any of the car in the market without thinking about your bank balance or future ...If dont then Brother start thinking about your future its a realistic life not your imaginary paradise 😏
@AdAstra95_5 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best videos you have made, so much detail whilst being interesting! Keep up the good work!
@Scott-sm9nm5 жыл бұрын
Really love the reviews by Jonny Smith and he is informative and clear. Definitely does his homework. FCShow really does nice editing and graphics for presentation.