OK - full disclosure: I own an E-tron so take my comments for what they are worth... I previously owned a Q5 for many years so I feel I can give some perspective on these cars . Firstly, the E-tron is more crossover - not as tall as an SUV. It's about 4 - 5" lower than the Q5 though it actually manages to have more room inside. It is longer on the outside and slightly wider, but it drives way better (though it's an Audi and no BMW in the driver engagement department). The biggest difference is that the trunk is longer and wider, but not quite as tall as the Q5. Secondly: driving / handling: this is way better than the Q5. I had no issues with the Q5, but the E-tron is just better. It's also SUPER EASY to drive, meaning minimal fatigue. This is compared to pretty much any other gasoline car I've driven. Charging and "energy cost": I'm saving about $300US / month over my Q5 in gas (which needs premium fuel) for similar amount of driving (about 15,000 miles / year). Yes, fast chargers are expensive, but you're only using them if you're road tripping, which isn't that often. If it is, then maybe you should buy a diesel car. Otherwise, if you're charging at home, the car is always ready. Range: well, give Audi credit for actually being honest about the EPA range: they are at least making or exceeding the quoted range under almost all conditions. Also, these media cars all come with 21" wheels which kill the overall range by at least 10 - 15 miles: the 20" wheels are a nice compromise and you'll easily get 210-220 miles on average unless you're driving in -10C all day or doing 80mph on the highway. Here's what also doesn't suck on the E-tron: the hvac. Yes, the controls take some getting used to and I'm not convinced (I agree with the reviewer) that the virtual climate controls are the best idea, but it has serious Hvac, defrost, seat warmers, etc... Shit that actually matters if you own the car and drive in any kind of weather that's not 70F every day. This car get warm QUICKLY. In 20F, it's toasty warm inside in like 2mins. And, that's if you forget to pre-warm it, which can be done with the app in like 5 mins. Finally: the main reason to buy this car: you want a car that's actually safe, functional and backed by a car company. I'm not saying that this is everyone's choice, but it was my choice. By safe, in particular I mean DIALED All Wheel Drive, not mostly OK and sometimes a bit flaky AWD. Just look at the regen braking horror stories when on snow or ice with EVs. This car is DIALED in these situations. Now that E-tron customers are getting them into the mountains during the winter, we're finding that they are exceptional in the snow and even on ice despite the weight. I don't think any other EV maker is even close in the AWD handling game compared to the E-tron. It's literally like driving a tank. It's also a functional daily driver: a bit big, but otherwise, a super functional car. So, yes the E-nero costs half as much and had 15-20% more range, but it's way smaller and does not have AWD. The i-pace is very cool, drives great, but the brakes suck, the MMI is a hot mess and it's bordering on a small crossover in size, which might not be functional for most people. So, if you need a least a medium sized car, want snow / rain / offroad light handling, you're really stuck with Model X and E-tron (EQC is not available in N America yet). You are basically trading range for functionality in these two cars and the real world difference isn't as much as it appears to be on paper. And anyone buying one of these cars needs to be able to charge it at home.

I've been watching this channel for months. Still haven't adjusted to the fact that there is a successful car KZfaqr with a functional intellect and intelligible English. Bravo!

So many fanboys who complains about range, most people rarely does more than 50 miles let alone to max out E-Tron range....You do that maybe few times per year and you can supercharge it anyway so no big deal...What really matters is how it drives, build quality, luxury, interiors etc...And no doubt that Audi put Tesla to shame in those areas, if i had money i would go for the E-Tron Sportback which looks amazing, so comfortable, luxurious, amazing interiors etc, probably the best EV hands down...

1.5 mikes/kWh ? - holy crap that's terrible

Just buy an E-Niro, from the money left over from 90G you can buy a nice weekend S2000 or something like that.

The big problem for all EVs without a Tesla badge is the charging network. I’ve tried to use non Tesla chargers twice, in Lyme Regis and Godalming. First one wouldn’t work until I phoned up and they rebooted it. Second I tried three times but charging stopped each time. I phoned and was told there was a fault. Both were only 50kw chargers. My other experience was walking past two Nissan Leaf owners trying to charge at Warwick services on ecotricity chargers. Both were on the phone to ecotricity as the chargers weren’t working. Different chargers are run by different companies, some use an app, some a website so there is some faff involved in setting up accounts with them. By contrast I’ve used a Tesla supercharger five times. Each time there was a charger free, I drove up, plugged in and it worked with no issues. I was able to charge at up to 100kw. Due to a recent over the air software update I can now charge at up to 170kw. The difference between the Tesla network and everything else is huge. I fear buyers of Leafs, E-Trons, I-Paces etc are in for a shock when they come to need public charging.

I bet we'll start to see indicators on a touch screen in five years...

Eugh, another SUV :(

Lack of energy efficiency and poor range is a killer. Tesla are simply leagues ahead in terms of efficiency. Audi must do better. This first gen e-tron just isn't good enough.

Audi should have put their best engineers on this car instead their "b" team. And that list of optional equipment is ridiculous.

Just a reminder that the Tesla Model S had 265 miles range in 2012.

Grande jay..🙌🏽love your honest reviews

Loved the preview of these cars in the Marvel films!

Thanks for the review, interesting. Like what you are doing, intelligent opinions and no shouting or loud music.

Touchscreens.... yuck!!! That's what you get when you let programmers design car controls - why have a control you can access using muscle memory and keeping your eyes on the road, when you can bury it somewhere inside a menu system you have to look at instead of the road.

The e-tron's idea was mainly to do an Audi SUV that just drives like an Audi SUV - but without an ICE in it. All the other EVs have futuristic bells and whistles whereas this is just meant to feel like a regular Audi.

So you live in town, load it up with the family and all thier gear bung the caravan/boat on the back and you'll be lucky if you get as far as your nearest motorway! LOL.

Thank you, it is reviews like this that have caused the resale values of the 2019 to plunge into the affordable used car range. Currently in the US you can pick up a lightly used 2019 etron prestige (fully loaded orig MSRP US$87,890) with less than 30,000 miles (so still under transferrable Audi warranty) for around US$27,000, or the same price as a lightly used Kia Niro EV which you also mentioned in the video. So with the prcing being the same Yeah, I'll slpurge and pay a higher insurance premium but enjoy all of the Audi quality and the extra space.

Great review as always.

This is so bland, it ignites no passion, maybe the younger generation will say this about fossil fuel cars in the future

After looking at everything as things have come out, while owning a tesla before any of them came out, I bought another tesla. Its sad how much these companies have botched EVs and make everyone believe they aren't good.

Would love to see you have a look at the iPace

Wow! It’s back to the future with that options list. Just when you thought that the euro lux brands learnt that robbing customers blind isn’t luxurious....

Just ordered the new 50 model... Mileage i do means i should only need to charge it 2-3 times a week and the lease was a steal at £305 pw over 3 years...bargain

700kg just for the batteries? Blimey.

Every company should make an EV to bring down their averages, that way they can also make us something with a V12.

Thanks for the frank and honest opinion

When I look at legacy auto EV's, I see interiors that haven't changed for over 30 years. Longer than that, when you examine older luxury cars.

Love your videos question what cars have voice activated controls ? So there’s no need to try and adjust with touch screens

Disappointed you didn't speak about the actual range. I only get about 130 miles out of mine and Audi tell me I will only get more if I switch all the toys off, do not use wipers and lights and drive at 55 mph and ensure I drive downhill to allow regeneration of the battery

21:47 Looking at the fit of the driver's door top. Is that an illusion or is the door line really that poor at the top?

Seems like a decent car overall, but I completely agree with your gripes. We've come to know good quality interiors from Audi even on base model A4's, so something double or triple the price should be a bit more plush in terms of materials. I think these are going to sell in very low numbers like most EV's until the charging networks are up to scratch. And I think most people willing to spend 80-90k on a car are probably an enthusiast anyway, so will lean toward either a petrol powered vehicle with better driving engagement or a performance Tesla.

EVs can cost a lot more than ICE cars, because many countries have massive taxes on ICE cars, but EVs are exempt for the most part. For example in Denmark the cheapest Porsche you can buy is a Porsche Taycan and this is simply due to the massive taxes on the ICE Porsche’s.

The iPace knocks this thing out of the park, and is a lot cheaper too.

JayEmm - slightly off topic but picking up on a comment you made across a number of reviews including this one around stereos being average. I generally agree and this is very important for me when I purchase a car. I think your subscribers would be interested in hearing which new, and why not old car optioned or default stereos you rate and think are either good bang for the buck or indeed truly good quality / high end at low and high volumes. Thanks!

Excellent remark on the e-tron name!

Really honest review. I’ve driven the 55 Quattro version & couldn’t agree more. To me, it excelled at nothing but being an SUV for wafting. I found it hard to see the cost benefit as it’s very expensive for what it offers.

Saw my first one on the motorway commute this morning. All black, it looked very smart with the rear light bar! Did think it was a normal q8 until I was close though 👀

Audi used to charge optional extra for floor mat!! I don’t know whether they still do

I have 2 friends with these and both struggle to get above 180miles in real world driving. (dropped to about 150miles in winter)

While I understand the temptation to believe that off street parking is rare in the UK, the statistics don't actually agree. According to the last census, more than 73% of households in the UK had a driveway. Doesn't help the rest, of course, but thinking that home charging is an outlier idea just demonstrates that you spend a long time driving around Bradford or Dewsbury and such.

3:15 Type 2 extension cables are readily available however Type 2 is a lot slower than CCS. I have a vague memory that tells me extension cables for CCS are expressly prohibited in the CCS standard (can somebody that knows confirm or refute that please). A Google search failed to come up with any CCS extension cords/cables.

Best test ever on the Audi Etron 4 miles per kwh on Kia e nero correct 1.5 miles per kwh on the Audi eTron is the problem at £88,000 (another truth....the true price in UK). The positives listed also bang on so. Clearly the best presented objective test. Just what the EV world needs.

Audi please bring back the fucking MMI scroll wheel, and stop making the air con controls touchscreen only

Finally someone comparing electric cars with the digital camera revolution. Didn’t take long for everyone to ditch their film based camera.

Is the TPMS an option in the Uk, being as it’s a legal requirement on new Uk cars.

Fair and interesting rerview, really detest the audi options list thing too . I did hear that theyre just making 3 levels of trim that are top middle and bottom though on their lesser cars?! look forward to the next viedo.

I have spent 10,000 miles (not 400 like journalists that always criticise !) with an Audi A7 with the ‘silly’ HVAC touchscreen and it’s brilliant. You DON’T need to take your eyes of the road, you very quickly get used to the haptic feedback screen.

a 60%+ depreciation in first year vehicle.no thanks.

I drove one this week. I found it well placed on the road. In the corners it also gave me confidence, perhaps a little sporty I dare say. The camera mirrors are strange to get used to. You constantly look at the door mirror not the screen. It picks up quick too.

Audi are putting most of their research budget into their h-tron range. That's what they (and BMW) consider to be the real future path.

I am agreeing with idea of electric cars but in my opinion hydrogen is the more practical future especially for people like me who live in a flat in city like York UK, so no dedicated charger at my property. Most important the cost of electric cars is to high for people working on average salary so I will stick to my Peugeot 206 which so far is very reliable and I am able to fix most things by myself. Maybe adopt lamp posts for charging points like other countries do, but still the price is what is stopping those vehicles to became popular and make difference to the environment. As always great video.

I'm very surprised at its bad efficiency, I know it's not a comparable car but my Renault Zoe has a 40kwh battery and get 3.5M/kWh on a motorway, about 4.5 M/kWh in town and if I'm very careful it gets 5.6 M/kWh. It's a far lighter car I know and it's only 2wd. But I can go basically the same distance as the Audi in a car that's 1/4 of the price.

Part of why the EU car makers are getting into EV's is the EU regulation that call on them for hitting a specific average for all the cars they sell combined, so they need EV's to bring down their average to compensate for the big thirsty cars. Ie. either they sell EV's and/or super economic petrol cars or they pay fines - the rules are so though makers like Porsche are likely willing to sell their EV's under cost rather than pay fines.

Good review! Very honest as usual! But I suspect Audi have a large enough customer base to have a percentage of customers to be put in to the (brand snobbery bracket) who will buy it just because it has an Audi badge? After all they have spent many years refining the brand! Lets face it how many rich people buy an SVR? to me and many other's down in the lower ranks it makes no sense to even try to run one let alone buy one, but there are many sold! I am how ever betting Audi are listening to many of the suggestions you made, as I bet you have just done some designers work for the next year or so!

I've never understood people that buy B&O sound systems. Especially in cars. It's just rebranded Phillips internals that looks fancy. But in a car it doesn't even look fancy so whats the point?

They had one chance to make it a. " Halo " product and show what the Audi brand could do. Push the envelop, and its turn out to be a kinda half arsed attempt in the EV market as they feel they need to be there. Sums up the Audi product range. Very confused , not sure if they are Lux brand, Sports car brand or just a posh Skoda. The only up side to this car is that you won't get the Audi engine , water pump warning light come on just as warranty expires. :) thanks for a good review.

I think that the Audi e-tron is a rubbish EV, not necessarily a rubbish car, but a truly rubbish EV. It is too heavy, it is, in relative terms, a modest performer, it is horrendously expensive. It is most importantly symptomatic of the VW group and it's EV efforts. EV's are not ICE cars, so they permit a truly fresh clean design sheet, but because VW group are so vested in their own ways of doing things, they can't/won't be 'light on their feet' and adapt quickly, embracing new opportunities. I foresee VW group going bankrupt within 3-5 yrs, because they are 10 yrs behind in a race they can't win.

That polo pick up

As a company Audi have to make money its all about profit. Profit means more wages for the higher ups they are a car company that have to satisfy their investors. Its a business plan that works for them. Produce a a product that with marketing everybody wants but not need. Its a clever concept of business, make someone think thy need it and will be trendy like the music business, play it enough it becomes part of our consciousness that we feel we need to acquire the provided product. Its all about want as supposed to need its about desire and feeding into narcissistic one up man ship

Excellent review Jay. Extremely heavy car with very low trip range and with average in class interior and exterior features at a price that really does not add together properly. Audi has a long road ahead to catch up with the electric car world. Calling it a Q5 electric would have been a much better name for it.

Front and rear charging ports make the most sense.

Spot on. It is not e-tron, it is Q5 electric.

Where is the camara mirors ?

Im sure they will have all things ironed out when they release the megatron.

Yeah review it again after it is 5 years old. Then tell me how much you enjoy the car and the cost.

The wheels 🤢

I believe Audi is to be complimented for the fact the e-tron is an Audi with a different engine. Not like the rolling smartphones Teslas are... I'm not rich enough to drive an EV, but if I were I would choose either the Benz or the Audi. The EV Jag also being an ugly car and that from the company that gave us the E-type, the XJ...

You would buy the e-tron over its competitors because its an Audi (probably). It has driveway cachet.

Yep, very hard to see the value prop for either the ETron or the EQC. And therefore not holding my breath for the other recycled-platform attempt, the BMW iX3 either. Which is a shame, as I'd like to move to an EV daily. Would love to see your review on a non-performance Tesla Model 3; seems like potentially the first EV that's a compelling package vs ICE equivs like 330i or A4

I've seen a BMW i3 advertised with free 12 months road fund license !

The logic for the third screen is that it is much cheaper to manufacture one piece of software and one screen than loads of different bits of plastic and metal. It's not consumer friendly but it makes them more money. Hopefully in the future gesture and voice controls will get so good that the screens aren't needed for interaction. The interior will be another business politics decision. Porsche is the luxury EV brand for VAG currently. Don't forget that this car is a Porsche Macan rival if it is as luxurious.

I am a hardcore Audi fan and iv'e had nearly 15 of their cars, currently running an A6 40 TDI quattro sedan. This is a very great car, have yet to drive one but i have driven Teslas etc and it's very difficult to be special in this segment. Electric cars are good for one thing, efficient transportation. They dont offer any joy IMO or excitement. Teslas for example are very fast, but i would rather go for a 3.0 TDI tuned if i wanted a fast car because petrol/diesel engines have such a nice Torque curve. The customer for an EV car is a person who wants cheap and efficient transportation, leave all the excitement and pure car enthusiasm to the good old engines. Audi did a good job on this one, but i dont see myself buying one anytime soon.

#Audi #Etron £88K 1.5 miles per KW @ 69 pence per KW at #Ionity ! Remember that joke about Audi's and the pineapple ! They're having a laugh !

The Audi is good. Much better interior than Tesla but slower. They will catch up

Compared to the alternatives it is a luxury alternative even though it's not quite luxury and that would be enough for those that can't deal with a Korean badge, tesla lack of luxury or Jaguars concern on reliability. It's real rival is the Merc EQC in my opinion .

That last drive-by shot points out just how much road and tire related noise cars make at higher speeds. While they are very quiet at lower speeds where that's not an issue, electric cars are far from silent overall. At the same time, governments are worried their near-silence at low speeds poses a danger to pedestrians, so many governments are considering requirements for them to make noise at low speeds! What a strange world.

In the EV cars something like 30-50% of the price is the battery, so basically you are buying an overgrown Q5 with a heavy battery.

This is like Kodak, they created digital cameras and decided it wouldn't work. They kept film and died off when they were left behind. That should be a warning to any manufacturer not making these cars. The only two problems for me are the sheer cost of the cars and the time it takes to refill them. When those two problems are resolved, the electric cars will fly off the shelves. The problem is that people use cars for ease of use, they make life easy, quick and simple. EVs are still in the teething stage and are yet to replace the standard vehicles. I do love the innovation that comes with them though.

Good idea Jay to suggest that this car should have a 500 mile range, but that would mean a battery pack getting on for two tons!

Fun fact, this is the exact same e-tron that Matt Watson reviewed - recognized the reg plate. 😜

I can purchase a Skoda Citygo EV for the options alone

How long will the batteries last with this fast charge tech "charging within an hour"?

Great review, I like your style.. subscribed.

It’s saying something about a 4-seat Audi EV when you could buy a new RS6 that does everything the e-tron does, only much quicker, for nearly the same money. The RS6 might even be more economical, which is ludicrous...

Would like you do a review of the new Vauxhall Corsa e EV. I am looking to buy a new one but £30,000 seems a lot for a small hatch when the top of the range new petrol and diesel versions are £20,000

You look exactly like Bill from the Little Couple

The latest Motor Show in Thailand back in early December,Audi didn't even have the e-tron on the show floor but more than happy to shove and push the new Q3 and Q8 in Thai people' faces. Even though it listed on their official site with lower price than the Q8. I'd say in our country case this is just another one of those EV for Guilty Rich People. Mediocre range and high deterioration scared them from showcase the thing I guess,even the flawed Leaf is on the show floor in the same show.

Optional extra: comfort remote preconditioning, what is that?

People that can afford a car that expensive typically have somewhere to charge. Lack of a place to charge will be an issue at the lower end of the market, not the 60-80 grand end of the market.

If the ETron had an 250 mile range and it had a nicely equipped price of $60,000 they would sell thousands of them. Unfortunately most of those sales would come from potential Q5 customers. So Audi priced it at 70k with a 200 mile range. It is not competitive with the Q5. Unfortunately it is not competitive with the Tesla X or Y either.

I hope Audi do a better job with the wing mirror cameras than Mercedes do with the ones they put on their HGVs, the merc ones are low res, completely useless at night and the screens flicker if the car behind has LED lights.

How many times do you run through your script? Mad you remember everything you want to say. Unless your making a lot of edits and sewing everything together. Slick work man. Also, that energy consumption is an embarrassment 🤨

Audi can go and shove their options where the sun don't shine 👍😆

So it’s LHD or RHD ?

“Lifty leberal” 🤔

OEMs try to get rid of the soft Slush-Skin, which adds weight to the interior...but each journalist complains about it ;-) They introduced this soft skin years ago as luxury feature...and now they cannot get rid of it anymore. This adds about 5-10kg to this already heavy car...but in general OEMs try to save weight, but are not allowed from journalists. :-) I never did care about this soft interior in front of me, but the Steering wheel and the seat is the only important to me, since I touch this all the time.

All it needs are more high power chargers. Just bauught a tesla on that basis, nothing else is any use at all.until they do what tesla did and sort the charging out. Uk government wtf are they doing

In the new EV world I expect that the premium brands will lose their edge and their ability to charge accordingly. EVs are basically a computer, battery and motor on wheels. It will become like mobile phones, they will all do the same thing and market share will be fought on price. Hence the problem for the premium brands. You won’t need to pay the high price for performance any longer.

I will pick this up for 20k in 2 years!!