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Audi TT RS vs BMW M2 vs Porsche 718 Cayman S: on the limit

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7 жыл бұрын

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PART 4 OF 4: In the final part of our group test we put the timing gear aside and drive for fun, both on and over the limit. Which is the best sports car? DRIVETRIBE's Editor-at-Large Jethro Bovingdon delivers his verdict…
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@ravirajyaguru5905
@ravirajyaguru5905 7 жыл бұрын
A British car review isn't complete without the words, "lovely", "bonkers", and "bespoke".
@erikhertzer8434
@erikhertzer8434 5 жыл бұрын
Ravi Rajyaguru : and “brilliant” , “well-sorted”, “a bit”, “well-done”,”utterly”, “rubbish”
@gsten2116
@gsten2116 3 жыл бұрын
"jeeussst"
@Ryansrangereport
@Ryansrangereport 6 ай бұрын
Don’t forget mental.
@ArtVandelayOfficial
@ArtVandelayOfficial 24 күн бұрын
"a proper thing"
@ArtVandelayOfficial
@ArtVandelayOfficial 24 күн бұрын
"serious piece of kit"
@frodebusch4112
@frodebusch4112 3 жыл бұрын
This engine sounds awesome when you push it to it's limits on the track! I know because I got one myself, and I believe that with an ECU-upgrade it's faster than the GT4 as well...
@itaytabib4665
@itaytabib4665 7 жыл бұрын
Cayman is a legit dream car... it's pretty obtainable too
@pirre97
@pirre97 7 жыл бұрын
Itay Tabib Same for me but the TTrs instead
@dlg5485
@dlg5485 7 жыл бұрын
A 5 year old Cayman with low miles goes for about half of MSRP, sometimes less, so I'll be looking for one of these in about 5 years.
@michaelpersiano6957
@michaelpersiano6957 7 жыл бұрын
The 718 Cayman S PDK properly set up for super car performance is around $100,000 US. You can spend up to $125,000 with carbon brakes and other interior upgrades. It's a remarkable car to experience. Those who make crass comments without behind the wheel experience are showing their ignorance, bias, and denial of automotive progress. Turbos are a key component in most Porsches today, and the engine will sound different while delivering exceptionally better performance and fuel economy. Porsche is also now able to be compliant with Euro emission standards that are becoming more and more rigid every year. Folks need to open their eyes.
@itaytabib4665
@itaytabib4665 7 жыл бұрын
Michael Persiano forget about super car performance give me a turbo manual Cayman to daily drive and I'm set
@LegendInThaMakin
@LegendInThaMakin 7 жыл бұрын
it's overpriced, ugly and sounds terrible. Not my dream car, ill tell you that much.
@dubment
@dubment 7 жыл бұрын
Actually, after this 4th part, the 718 sounds better than some v8s, you really have to be brainwashed to hate it, or haters gonna hate it for sounding so good...
@andrewipp426
@andrewipp426 7 жыл бұрын
Really good 4 part comparison, explaining how the pros and cons of each car while drifting sideways is auto journalism at it's best well done Jethro Bovington!
@Ryansrangereport
@Ryansrangereport 7 жыл бұрын
Drifting looks realy cool on review videos, but I honestly don't think it's a big selling point for street cars. Unless you're wanting to run over people at cars and coffee when you realize you're not Chris Harris.
@donblub
@donblub 7 жыл бұрын
Ryan's Range Report maybe you can't imagine, but there are non racecardriver who can drive and drift. so it's for them. you can buy the Audi ;)
@jonathankevingiustinotreng8780
@jonathankevingiustinotreng8780 6 жыл бұрын
donblub youre right mate😊😊😊😊
@kdmjosh4689
@kdmjosh4689 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly. You will probably not have the option of "oh let me swing by the track on the way home to burn my tires." He even said he has problems with it on the road. Then wtf is the point?
@freud2695
@freud2695 6 жыл бұрын
Go to a track RRR and just play around.
@farhan007
@farhan007 6 жыл бұрын
Also rwd platform allows for less weight and better weight distribution. That's why the Audi tt feels nose heavy while the mid engine cayman feels far more darty and nimble with less weight up front. The tt is basically a golf chassis. It has a higher center of gravity than the Cayman. It's fast in a straight line but handles more like a economy car than a sports car. You don't need to drift to notice that.
@mortracer
@mortracer 5 жыл бұрын
I own a porsche 718 boxster s, sound disappointing?? Never had that problem. Car is incredible, preferred the boxster over the Cayman as you get the choice of no roof, which here in Aus I find myself driving 70% of the time lol. The 718 is so refined its a 10/10 for me!;-)
@Wrugoin13
@Wrugoin13 5 жыл бұрын
This comment is exactly it. I own a 981 (2014 Cayman S) with the flat 6 and sport exhaust. Instead of comments like "I don't have any issues with how it sounds", I instead can say that when I open it up, I get goosebumps from that throaty growl. I get a smile, ear to ear and an exhilarating thrill from just the sound, and I wouldn't trade that ever for a bit more torque or half second lap time. The experience is why I love the car.
@Suleimenoff
@Suleimenoff Жыл бұрын
a @@Wrugoin13 This exactly. This flat-6 (and I have 2.7 Cayman) is just intoxicating. I'd only exchange for 4.0 718. But even then I'd miss very analogue and old-fashioned look of 981 exterior and interior. I guess its like owning E46 BMW - you know they are not going to hit the same balance of perfection any time soon. A simple, reliable, luxurious sports car with one of the best-sounding engines.
@jamessuttie1261
@jamessuttie1261 7 жыл бұрын
Totally disagree with your comments about the 718 Cayman S engine. I have owned 3 Boxsters (as well as currently a 911 GT3 RS). The Cayman S is by far the best engine of the Boxsters, sound is good, performance is great and gas mileage is excellent. The engine does not compare to the RS, but it is also about half the price.
@Lupos-F
@Lupos-F 2 жыл бұрын
totally agree, even without your experience. i often joke that the 2,5 Cayman is, car over money, the best car now on the market. period. it's 90% of everything and does everything great. sport cars? it's awesome, and to have something significantly better you have to pay A LOT more. everyday commuter? it's comfortable, easy to drive, with decent gasoline usage. to have better you have to give up A LOT on many others sides. family car? it has more load capacity than many hatchbacks, and to have better, again, you have to give up a lot. try to stuff all the thing you manage to put inside a Cayman in any other decent light sport car, like the MX-5 or a GT86... it even has isofix hooks if you want to... it's not perfect and there are many possible improvements, but seriously, it's probably the best car you can buy right now...
@chiragghuman
@chiragghuman Жыл бұрын
If you're talking of gas mileage with Sports Cars Engines, you probably shouldn't be driving one. Better buy a Corolla. Suffice to say you really don't understand the original Flat 6 and smoothness of that engine over this 4 cyl compromise by Porsche despite owning different Porsche models. Try to be one with your car and you'll never even want to touch a Flat 4 Porsche
@final_mile_music9713
@final_mile_music9713 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. The flat fours are amazing. Even the base. Really usable on the road too. It’s almost a cliche to bang on about. Everyone here a couple of spoilt reviewer’s opinions (and that don’t own the car) and just join in. The original 718 was four cylinders, so arguably it’s more in keeping with the line’s heritage. Many Porsches have been four cylinders.
@final_mile_music9713
@final_mile_music9713 Жыл бұрын
@@chiragghuman That’s just not true. The T, for example, is a wonderfully pure sports car. I have a base but specced like a T. I’ve drive MANY sports cars with all kinds of engine including many that were simply overpowered for the road. The car is sublime.
@johnhodgkins3239
@johnhodgkins3239 4 жыл бұрын
I have my second TTRS 2019 and they keep on getting better, love it!
@noblevengeance312
@noblevengeance312 4 жыл бұрын
John Hodgkins wow very lucky! Been my dream car for 9 years now. You are very lucky
@moimoi4725
@moimoi4725 2 жыл бұрын
I just got a 2021 TT RS. I coming from Lotus Evora 400...I like the change. Different but worth it.
@NafaratMiyaMiya
@NafaratMiyaMiya 7 жыл бұрын
I have to admit the videos are just getting better and better ... Jethro is brilliant in expressing his thoughts on the cars he drives, love the word play :) ... Keep it up guys!
@mikemush9741
@mikemush9741 4 жыл бұрын
Really entertaining video. The Porsche looked like a totally different experience versus the other two. It looked like a proper sports car versus two sedans. I'm majorly on the hunt for a base Cayman with the manual.
@peterburian8374
@peterburian8374 6 жыл бұрын
Love this video, Great to see a UK company making such useful, interesting and fun videos of comparison reports! Am waiting for their review of the new 2019 M2 Competition model.
@jonreeves7377
@jonreeves7377 7 жыл бұрын
Great review... TT is a street car that holds your hand and ensures you stay safe whilst getting you from A to B in the quickest time possible. The other two are more driver's cars but dont have the same straight line point and shoot power of the Audi.
@TheSingying
@TheSingying 7 жыл бұрын
if you've muted the video and only look at his expression, you will know which car you are going to get.
@leonardoserra1243
@leonardoserra1243 5 жыл бұрын
I see no problem in the cayman engine really. It doesnt sound as a 6 cylinder but still....
@blasphemicwhale
@blasphemicwhale 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I had a 718 for the day yesterday and it was incredible. I thought it sounded really good. The 718 now has its own, unique sound, we should embrace it, especially since it comes with massive performance gains.
@MarvinYue
@MarvinYue 4 жыл бұрын
If the engine was an issue, the chassis would not have the chance to show its ability this well.
@stevenice1485
@stevenice1485 3 жыл бұрын
Leonardo Serra 35 HP more and max torque at 2000 RPM... and... with less consumption!👍
@BrendanEvan
@BrendanEvan 3 жыл бұрын
I think with a more free flowing exhaust you could unlock more audible enjoyment through turbo noises too. Different for sure, but likely not displeasing!
@sadubone
@sadubone 6 жыл бұрын
funny as i watch this months after release, i'm looking for videos about the Cayman as I hope to buy one soon. everyone bitches about the sound, but compliments the actual drive ability of the flat 4. if no one had ever heard the 6 i'm not sure it would even be discussed. all these 718 reviews people just complain about the sound. the flat 6 isn't that fantastic. it's not a Aston Martin V12, or Maserati or Ferrari, those engines sing. not sure it's necessary to ride the same band wagon and bitch about the sound of a 4 cylinder engine. I don't know many that stand out. It sounds like a Porsche, it sounds refined and in the high rpm range I think it's amazing. I'd be damn glad to own the 718 and listen to that wail every day.
@mateensaliminejad1853
@mateensaliminejad1853 4 жыл бұрын
sadubone I own mine and it has a sports exhaust...oh does it sound amazing😍
@Bigtexatx11
@Bigtexatx11 7 жыл бұрын
the 718 clearly doesn't have a bad engine. If its anything like a Subaru boxer 4, I'm sure its reliable and you can most likely get loads of power out of it. Its the sound that everyone is complaining about. I wonder if a nice aftermarket exhaust would help?
@josipmajdak2001
@josipmajdak2001 7 жыл бұрын
great confrontation videos!! you make it so involving and fun. comparing the experience of driving with michelin star restaurant is just... beyond belief!! LOL thanx
@ninchalla_creates
@ninchalla_creates 3 жыл бұрын
I'm genuinely suprised how well he can drift the cayman
@ringbimmer
@ringbimmer 7 жыл бұрын
One of the best car channels on YT
@albertomorenog
@albertomorenog 7 жыл бұрын
I've test driven both 718 S and 981 S at the same time in a mountain road and the 981 6 cylinder doesnt have a chance to keep up the pace. The engine sound in the exterior is good too, obviosly not as good as the 6 cyl, but it has more growl and it is something subjective. But I didnt find any 4 cylinder turbo that revs so quickly, it flies up to 7250 rpm and that lack of smoothens is somehow substituded by a more mechanical and crispy feel that reminds me classy engines. The driver who owns the 981 S I was testing said he loves the punch and the engine sound in the 718 S. I am little bit tired of hearing that the engine break ups the whole package, as in the case of the 911, IMO it doesnt and make the car more usable and powerful.
@KE-md4cb
@KE-md4cb 6 жыл бұрын
The 718 Cayman S is a beautiful amazing machine and sounds incredible...!
@nilsbuer
@nilsbuer 3 жыл бұрын
What a great review and so nice sliding scenes. Well done. The great cars have. 4 Cylinder, Porsche 356, 919evo Hybrid, ..
@joshlauer75
@joshlauer75 7 жыл бұрын
The TTRS engine in the Cayman S chassis would be something I would like to drive.
@alexanderorban8971
@alexanderorban8971 5 жыл бұрын
I like how this is about which car is most fun and best experience to drive and not which car is fastest. Thank You!
@gregalanbell
@gregalanbell Жыл бұрын
That engine is great! 2.5turbo is way ahead, where a 981s with the 6 would be way behind both the M2 and TTRS. Sounds great too in my opinion. I've owned 3 Porsches, 2 air cooled 911s and a 06 987.1 Cayman S, and I think the flat 4 turbo is awesome. I've driven the 2.0L 718 with pdk back to back with my 987, and even though it's not as loud as the 6 it still has a very mechanical sound to the engine. This engine makes the car more dynamic too. 2 less cylinders mean less weight a little less out back reducing the urge to oversteer at corner entry. Bottom line, the flat four makes the 718 handle with a near perfect dynamic that makes this car better than all of the previous 981, 987, 986.
@daniel5876
@daniel5876 7 жыл бұрын
Yay Jethro again, was really worried the other voice was back!
@drdavinlim
@drdavinlim 7 жыл бұрын
Mate, one of the best unbiased and balanced reviews out there... congrats DRIVETRIBE for another professional video. Kudos dude. Dr Davin Lim
@Mistawongchong
@Mistawongchong 2 жыл бұрын
I don't believe it was unbiased when it came to judging the cayman against its big brother .
@innerhammer
@innerhammer 7 жыл бұрын
Put the inline 5 turbo into the Cayman. That way you get a proper baby supercar.
@alfie3836
@alfie3836 7 жыл бұрын
then they can't sell any R8's....lol
@TheValodjaCzech
@TheValodjaCzech 7 жыл бұрын
exactly my thought
@MagicAyrtonforever
@MagicAyrtonforever 7 жыл бұрын
Inner Hammer except it won't fit and would ruin the low center of gravity anyway etc etc etc
@d0718
@d0718 7 жыл бұрын
Inner Hammer I'd rather it's a flat engine but 4 cylinders than inline and 5. Bring back the flat-six - best engine configuration (on par with V10). Everything else is inferior
@innerhammer
@innerhammer 7 жыл бұрын
If you want a flat 6 just wait for the GT4. Anyway I know all the consequences but I'm just in fantasy mode now.
@chriscarbaugh3936
@chriscarbaugh3936 3 жыл бұрын
Great review and killer driving!!
@zaverdi5986
@zaverdi5986 7 жыл бұрын
Best review for sure..Cheers!
@rayisnumbaone
@rayisnumbaone 7 жыл бұрын
quality stuff. keep it up!
@kjhjhkuhkfse
@kjhjhkuhkfse 7 жыл бұрын
its like audi almost built a really, really, really good car, but at the last minute they were told not to try and compete with porsche. thanks, vw...
@ImBarryScottCSS
@ImBarryScottCSS 7 жыл бұрын
max pieps It's almost like they have worked really really really hard to extract a good car from a terrible chassis, in the end they nearly managed it. What you wouldn't give for that Audi tech in a Lotus chassis.
@kjhjhkuhkfse
@kjhjhkuhkfse 7 жыл бұрын
ImBarryScottCSS that terrible chassis was probably vw's idea. audi knows how to make proper chassis (lmp1, original Quattro, DTM, TT clubsport...) but porsche has to sell far more units, as they only really build this type of car (suv don't count, as they're just fancier Q3s and tiguans).
@vikd4292
@vikd4292 7 жыл бұрын
its not a terrible chassis, but its a GTI/Golf R chassis, which competes at a lower level, the 718 cayman can go head to head with the 911/r8 and F-type , corvette , amg GT. all dedicated sports cars.... the engine is course and unrefined but the performance is still there.
@ZDY66666
@ZDY66666 7 жыл бұрын
max pieps it's better this way though...
@VaneNaumovski
@VaneNaumovski 7 жыл бұрын
at the end, they're both owned by vw hahaha
@wideangle852
@wideangle852 7 жыл бұрын
. . why didn't you take the TT RS out in the wet?? . . And BMW out in the dry?? . . yup, that's my point . .
@rousseau327
@rousseau327 6 жыл бұрын
Because everyone knows AWD is better in the wet and RWD is better in the dry. Next you'll want them to make a video talking about how a car has 4 wheels
@dilshad3490
@dilshad3490 5 жыл бұрын
Wait for z4 m2 is not competitor of tt rs
@slaWterCH
@slaWterCH 7 жыл бұрын
Just get a 981 and be happy!
@gohowells
@gohowells 7 жыл бұрын
I wish you would have included a road test. After all, that's where these cars will spend 99% of their time.
@TheEryk03
@TheEryk03 7 жыл бұрын
Funny how morons cry about automatic vs manual and doesn't even mention that M2 was tested on wet track and TT RS on dry... That's not fair! Still great series.
@Malc180s
@Malc180s 7 жыл бұрын
Stupid post betrays stupidity.
@TheEryk03
@TheEryk03 7 жыл бұрын
Malc180s you are one of these morons?
@xmark9x598
@xmark9x598 7 жыл бұрын
TheEryk03 it should be the other way around , to really show if quattro is any better than rwd in the wet conditions
@TheEryk03
@TheEryk03 7 жыл бұрын
xmark99x of course any of those cars on wet surface is more fun to drive... Even TTs on wet is quite a fun car.
@EdPrscheTurbo
@EdPrscheTurbo 7 жыл бұрын
"There is no substitute" - Porsche
@moimoi4725
@moimoi4725 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, Lotus
@noseonscent1935
@noseonscent1935 7 жыл бұрын
What a load of Bollocks! While I am the first to admit I love, love, LOVE the flat 6's in all their juicy iterations, he is sitting there bemoaning the engine of the 718 (a flat 4 2.5l turbo) that makes as much power as the old 997 Carrera S and with more torque down low! Are you kidding me?! The car equipped with PDK is bordering on ludicrously fast 0-60 4.2! And I suspect that Motor Trend (amongst other testers, etc.) may be able to get the time down to 3.8! Tuners are already salivating at the idea of a remapped ECU doling out shall we say between 380hp and 425! These would be potentially realisable numbers and output figures. Finally Porsche built the first 4 banger boxer engines far before Subaru ever did. Not Porsche? Totally Porsche!
@daltonv5206
@daltonv5206 7 жыл бұрын
Steven Sturgill being fast isn't everything. there are many cars faster than a Cayman that cost less. people don't but Caymans and boxsters to be the fastest. they buy them because they're enjoyable. that engine isn't anywhere near as sweet as the 6 was
@Cloxxki
@Cloxxki 7 жыл бұрын
Steven Sturgill If someone could convert it to 2-stroke...
@Dolby109
@Dolby109 7 жыл бұрын
Agreed, sound plays a huge role in the fun factor of a sports car, and the new engine just doesn't sound good.
@audiwankenobi361
@audiwankenobi361 7 жыл бұрын
Steven Sturgill WHAT THE FACK IS A "Bollock"?
@davidmccappin8027
@davidmccappin8027 7 жыл бұрын
Give me less power and a better sound. Power now days has gone to crazy levels. No need for more than 350 hp in a 1300 kg road car
@guywi2066
@guywi2066 5 жыл бұрын
Does the Cayman S has a Limited slip differential ( PTV) ? PASM suspension - 10 mm . or - 20 Mm ? It seems to be answered yes when you see the balance or the car with a good pilot...
@zachmockett7566
@zachmockett7566 5 жыл бұрын
The pricetag behind the 718 S is a bit too steep to compare, but I feel even a standard 718 would outshine these two. Looking at pricing, the base M2 (+ sunroof and smartphone connectivity) comes to CAD$70,610 and the base 718 (+ sportchrono and connected nav) comes to CAD$69,970. Unfortunately Audi has removed the configurator for all TT models, but that would be at the bottom of my list anyway (unless I was looking for an all season sports car, rwd in a foot of snow wouldn't be any fun).
@guywi2066
@guywi2066 5 жыл бұрын
Does this Cayman has the PASM - 20 mm optional suspension & PTV mechanical limited slip ? It seems yes. It makes the car completely more track car...
@nightnomad635
@nightnomad635 7 жыл бұрын
Wait for the 718 Cayman Gt4 .....bet that'll be a hoot with the 911s 4.0 flat 6
@aljack1979
@aljack1979 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much that will be
@shoutykat
@shoutykat 7 жыл бұрын
Ok, so you don't like the Porsche engine but you never actually say WHY. Is it just a lack of character? Is the throttle response mushy? Is it just about the sound? Does it have a flat top end? Are you offended by the sheer concept of a turbo four instead of an atmo six? Porsche has a long history with flat fours and the 919 demonstrates that they have excellent form with them now. What's so desperately lacking with this engine?
@pelleskutt4927
@pelleskutt4927 7 жыл бұрын
Forth Sadler sound, character. It takes away from the experience. But hey, you can always buy an S or GTS from a previous year
@shoutykat
@shoutykat 7 жыл бұрын
So if I was good with the sound of the turbo four (and could afford a Cayman) then this would be ok. Still wondering what the engine is actually like in terms of actual characteristics though. All the reviews seem to settle on "It's not the six and I don't like it.". The fact that there's such consistency across reviews suggests that there's something in that but nobody actually says what the engine is like, just that it's not the six and it's yucky.
@IceFish.
@IceFish. 7 жыл бұрын
basically a Subaru engine
@tonydmty1234567
@tonydmty1234567 7 жыл бұрын
The sound and throttle response on a broader range. ";-)
@rivaterrier
@rivaterrier 7 жыл бұрын
It's a comparative thing. Years back I had a Boxster S and that flat six was just an utter delight. Smooth, revvy, powerful and sounded fab. I have also had a flat four Subaru, which was great fun but did not have the edge and engagement that the Porsche flat six had. It may seem that Porsche have scored a bit of an own goal by putting such an uninspiring lump in such an otherwise well rounded car. But in reality it is probably deliberate so that it does not damage sales of the newly turbo charged 991.2, which itself has lost something compared to the normally aspirated 991.1.
@lkyksb3
@lkyksb3 7 жыл бұрын
I think the driving King of 4 wheel drive Audi cars is still Walter Rohrl...
@gw7624
@gw7624 7 жыл бұрын
Audi will never cure their understeer problem for as long as they insist on FWD platforms. 60/40 weight distribution is hard to negate , even with clever diffs.
@alexnadeaupelletier2287
@alexnadeaupelletier2287 5 жыл бұрын
A much bigger rear swaybar mainly solves the problem
@deekaneable
@deekaneable 5 жыл бұрын
@@alexnadeaupelletier2287 It does. I think they left the understeer in it to make it safer. Once you put a rear swaybar on it, it's a track monster!
@farhan007
@farhan007 4 жыл бұрын
@@alexnadeaupelletier2287 lol, a sway bar isn't going to turn a Audi TT into a mid engine rwd sports car.
@markufoto
@markufoto 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for telling it like it is Jethro with the engIne in the Cayman.
@freud2695
@freud2695 6 жыл бұрын
Mega precise handling Cayman - magnificent. But that generator is just sad :(
@xynurse6095
@xynurse6095 7 жыл бұрын
was the RS driven with sport traction or no traction control?
@xkrnxboix
@xkrnxboix 7 жыл бұрын
And of course... the Cayman S prevails! I really liked this series...
@Porsche9174Ever
@Porsche9174Ever 7 жыл бұрын
Great vids but please please please Mr editor, up the volume of the narrated parts! Those parts are so much lower in volume than the rest of the vid...!
@bmwmdude
@bmwmdude 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, subscribed. I like all 3, can’t call the winner. Think for me it would be the BMW (shocker!), but the Audi next then the Porsche, for the money I would buy the 911 vs the Cayman.
@christianc6041
@christianc6041 7 жыл бұрын
the Cayman and the TT are 2 different offerts from VW group you can buy the one which suits your needs the best !
@dafrasier1
@dafrasier1 6 жыл бұрын
I completed 242 laps on the Ring; June - July 2017; I never found sound to be an issue. unless you are hoping to impress another person; the sound is not an issue.
@guheshvaravadivelu5021
@guheshvaravadivelu5021 5 жыл бұрын
What do you mean it's not a Porsche engine? They won races with flat four engines
@lometatron357
@lometatron357 3 жыл бұрын
Right!!!
@dilantaheem5725
@dilantaheem5725 7 жыл бұрын
This is a good line up
@arsxs04
@arsxs04 7 жыл бұрын
Agree 100% on the Cayman engine. Exactly why I won't be purchasing one. Hopefully they return to NA in the next Spyder and GT4.
@MagicAyrtonforever
@MagicAyrtonforever 7 жыл бұрын
arsxs04 same am ready to buy but the engine sucks too much.
@TheBaldMiddleAgedMetalHead
@TheBaldMiddleAgedMetalHead 7 ай бұрын
Having owned both the TT and Boxster. I think the Boxster understeers just as much as the TT when you really push it hard. Just the TT does it sooner, but the TT will let you put power down where the Boxster won't. They're different ideas on how to go fast and both are ultimately great cars.
@julianmarszczynski4075
@julianmarszczynski4075 6 жыл бұрын
I prefer TT RS this car have only 400hp, but acceleration 0-60 in 3,5 seconds is very impressive
@robertper4102
@robertper4102 7 жыл бұрын
Question on the Cayman engine. Could an aftermarket exhaust spice things up a bit? Or it is more than that? I agree it just sounds flat.
@robertper4102
@robertper4102 7 жыл бұрын
And reading further through the comments I didn't realize the new Cayman's were 4 cylinders. I thought it was reminiscent of a Honda K-series. Just a bit thoaty'er.
@Cactaceae33
@Cactaceae33 7 жыл бұрын
I actually like the sound of the Cayman's engine. I know it's not as vibrant as the previous 6-cylinder, but I feel that they needed to differentiate between the 911s and the Cayman/Boxter (718) line. Perfect car imho.
@MagicAyrtonforever
@MagicAyrtonforever 7 жыл бұрын
Cactaceae33 Ha! I've driven one, it's awful.
@julescaesar357
@julescaesar357 7 жыл бұрын
Was the Porsche equiped with the Performance Exhaust ? It is such a shame that Porsche decided to not offer the flat 6... I was test driving a pre facelift Cayman S with manual gearbox and surely was much more enjoying the incredible, emotional feeling of the car than I was missing the torque of a turbo engine..
@rejoicerone3176
@rejoicerone3176 6 жыл бұрын
The M2 with a set of Bilstien B16 adjustable damping coilovers will be absolutely amazing, soften the damping a bit and it will be a proper drivers car!
@allensaunders449
@allensaunders449 7 жыл бұрын
haven't seen as many vids from this channel recently. Always quality Henry still missing. Release more content
@BrendanEvan
@BrendanEvan 3 жыл бұрын
Still an excellent film 3 years later
@tonyhirst9319
@tonyhirst9319 Жыл бұрын
When I moved to Germany I had three cars in mind, M2, 718 Boxster and Golf GTI. After watching and reading many reviews I thought the M2 would be the one, the Boxster was on my list because I love Porsche’s, the GTI because honestly it’s all you really need. I test drove them all. After 15 minutes in the M2 I took it back to the dealer, why? It’s loud, rides like a truck and cheap inside. I knew after an hour in the car it would be tiring. Next was the Boxster, I started off in the entry level, cheap interior and underpowered, next the S, better but still disappointing, last the GTS, beautiful interior finally felt like my expectation of a Porsche. Last was the GTI. It’s a great car for the money but after the other 2 it felt ordinary. I ended up buying a Boxster GTS and the day I signed the contract a guy drove out of the dealership in a 981. I said to the salesman “that car sounds much better than the 718” he said “the turbo 4 is better in every other way” I’ve had the car for 2 years now and regret buying it because I just can’t get over the fact that it sounds like a tractor.
@bullychris
@bullychris 7 жыл бұрын
Brakes can be fixed with the M2 with M Performance pads, or other dedicated brand. M2 for me - loved mine.
@delsol67
@delsol67 5 жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@elanamariew
@elanamariew 7 жыл бұрын
So this is the second time Porsche has won a Drivetribe comparison test, can we keep the string alive?
@danielharris3180
@danielharris3180 7 жыл бұрын
Chill out mate the engine is not that bad. If you own one it sounds good in the flesh and everyone I've taken out in my 718 said it sounded good and was great fun to be in
@memeviewer1014
@memeviewer1014 6 жыл бұрын
My personal favourite is the Porsche, since it has a certain look about it. Anyway, I like the Porsche because it’s cheapish, if they put a 6 cylinder in it they will raise the price to well over the $200k mark. But great videos guys keep them coming.
@gonesecondzin
@gonesecondzin 7 жыл бұрын
my best car-enthusiastic show now on youtube
@greaser3069
@greaser3069 7 жыл бұрын
I love how you are honest and dont just praise the car, you point out the cons. Please keep that, very rare to find a channel that is honest and is not just saying bullshit for money.
@greaser3069
@greaser3069 7 жыл бұрын
Like personally I was tricked into believing that the M2 is an unbeatable beast in the segment until you pointed out that there are a lot of things it lacks in. For example, all the things i have heard about the m2 i have never heard that the brakes were that bad. No one had the balls to point it out.
@davidmccappin8027
@davidmccappin8027 7 жыл бұрын
JB really dumped on that Cayman's "generator". Totally agree as most people do. If you own a Cayman boxer 6 then you had better hang on to that masterpiece. Not because it might be an "investment" and "appreciate" but so you can appreciate it by ringing it's neck every time you drive it !!
@MrFlashRoc
@MrFlashRoc 7 жыл бұрын
front discs on M2 look like theyre heat cycled properly!
@andynine
@andynine 7 жыл бұрын
song at the beginning????
@luismalaquias70
@luismalaquias70 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, my car of choice won this test. Without doubt a superb sports car at every situation.
@tan9640
@tan9640 7 жыл бұрын
Is it Audi chassis or the design that causes the understeer or the terrible weight distribution or maybe the 4 wheel drive system
@gregorythomas4470
@gregorythomas4470 5 жыл бұрын
Does it ever NOT rain in Britain?!
@dtofq
@dtofq 7 жыл бұрын
The fake engine noise coming through the speakers in the M2 is maddening!!!
@Mexxx65
@Mexxx65 7 жыл бұрын
...i guess you Porsche fan boys have been fans of Porsche for about mmm 5 years in total now...Porsche have had 4 cylinder engines since the dawn of time...and a 4 cylinder Turbo engine in the early 80's...so they've put 4 cylinder Turbos in the Boxster/Cayman/718 now..wow i'm so surprised! are you guys?
@diogotaira390
@diogotaira390 6 жыл бұрын
TTRS RWD please
@YakovGrinberg79
@YakovGrinberg79 7 жыл бұрын
No spins out at all? And I wonder how many laps he has completed to get such a perfect video?
@BorisW150
@BorisW150 6 жыл бұрын
I own an M2 and have driven a new 718 Cayman and have to agree with his decision. Having said that, I'm sure glad that I get to listen to the mellifluous cadence of an inline six rather than the harsh, discordant sound of a Subaru-esque flat four. Had Porsche still put the flat six into the Cayman I probably would have bought it over the M2.
@arengovender868
@arengovender868 7 жыл бұрын
reviews of the new cayman s make me want the old one. LOL
@jarrodluck7489
@jarrodluck7489 6 жыл бұрын
Can someone please tell me, other than the sound, what exactly is wrong with the Porsche motor? All I see is people complaining about the turbo but the other two cars are turbo aswell. I really don't see what the problem is.
@MrAndyCPT
@MrAndyCPT 5 жыл бұрын
There nothing wrong with the engine, think this needs to be made clear. It doesn’t sound like the previous gen cars, takes away from some of the drama and I get that, however the current engine is up on power and performance so it is better
@v_alexiadis
@v_alexiadis 7 жыл бұрын
Problem with the N/A flat six was that it was simply too weak for nowadays standards. The top hot hatches could compete with it. Particularly the non-S Cayman.
@RobBoothAutomotive
@RobBoothAutomotive 7 жыл бұрын
The engine sounds like a generator ahaha! Harsh but fair.
@macaron3141592653
@macaron3141592653 6 жыл бұрын
Generators sound better tbh
@rboddington
@rboddington 4 жыл бұрын
I have the 4 cyl turbo Cayman, it's awesome, prefer it over the six.
@borinvlogs
@borinvlogs 2 жыл бұрын
M2 feels like a mini SUV after sitting in Cayman, Boxster, F Type, Lotus etc.
@jameswingrove7421
@jameswingrove7421 7 жыл бұрын
The Audi engine, the balance of the Porsche, and the grin inducing silliness of the BMW all together in one package...sadly perfection doesn't exist, so I'd spend the money (if I had it) on a 981 Cayman GTS.
@sulaymaananverbham1220
@sulaymaananverbham1220 7 жыл бұрын
How can the Audi TTRS's brakes be : "...good, but not better than the BM's: which are still rubbish. " ? Which is better then ? Are the brakes in the TTRS good or not for track use ? ( I see 6 pistons in front, no ? )
@kraenk12
@kraenk12 7 жыл бұрын
That's the problem usually....great track cars seldomly are also great road cars.
@Stringwar
@Stringwar 4 жыл бұрын
Porsche know that the paupers who crave a 911 will settle for a 4cyl cayman. It wasn't that long ago that reviewers were heaping praise over the 4cyl 968 club sport.
@user-mf2ff3mu2l
@user-mf2ff3mu2l 6 жыл бұрын
Hey mate you have expensive taste but I do understand the detail you are trying to get across good work
@matthewmorrison1433
@matthewmorrison1433 3 жыл бұрын
We have a 981s and now a 718s and the engine noise is a slight issue but everything else and I mean everything is better
@tominatorxx
@tominatorxx 7 жыл бұрын
I prefer the looks of the older Caymans over this new one tbh. The engine... well it sounds okay but not nearly as exciting as the inline 5 from the Audi. The M2 looks like a good allrounder. I don't know, if I had to choose I would probably go with the Audi. Yes the M2 and the 718 might be more fun on the track but things like the engine sound is something you will enjoy everytime you go for a drive while drifting a car or racing on a track is something you don't do all the time. I'm actually quite curious as to how those 3 cars handle on mountain roads. Jeremy did a review years ago of the RS4 in the alps and absolutely loved it (but on the race track when they compared it to the C63 and M3 he said it looked boring). So now I wonder if the new TTRS would be just as fun on mountain roads as the RS4 was.
@CJ-ou1ln
@CJ-ou1ln 7 жыл бұрын
I would personally pick the TTRS but damn that M2 does look fun to drive
@ivanandreev1958
@ivanandreev1958 7 жыл бұрын
Anglesey Circuit, United Kingdom. if someone want to know this racetrack
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