Audience Shocked at Response by Dave Farina (Professor Dave Explains) @ Scientific Debate

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Dr. James Tour

Dr. James Tour

10 ай бұрын

Full debate between Dr James Tour and Dave Farina of Professor Dave Explains:
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@IPraisetheTrinity
@IPraisetheTrinity 10 ай бұрын
Dr. Tour: This man (Dave) is not stupid Mr. Farina: He is lying!
@tabularasa0606
@tabularasa0606 9 ай бұрын
He is lying about the topic of the debate, because his religious bias won't let him.
@elsawithginathedreamdragon3952
@elsawithginathedreamdragon3952 9 ай бұрын
Dude, you should see how Tour lies. It’s shameful! But you won’t find that evidence pointed out on Tour’s KZfaq channel. It’s very hard to tell when Tour is lying…but you can find evidence for that in Dave’s KZfaq channel. 🫤
@juilianbautista4067
@juilianbautista4067 9 ай бұрын
@@tabularasa0606 lol, cope. Tour wasn't lying at all. It's not our fault the facts point us to God.
@Themightystar5000
@Themightystar5000 9 ай бұрын
​@@tabularasa0606There is no scientist who knows how life appeared or what life is. How could he lie? Can you explain?🗿🗿
@damiangrouse4564
@damiangrouse4564 9 ай бұрын
That old saying comes to mind, paraphrasing…people can call you stupid, don’t show them by opening your mouth…
@zebra2346
@zebra2346 10 ай бұрын
Farina not only lost the debate, he also demonstrated that he doesn't have an ounce of class
@vikingskuld
@vikingskuld 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely correct, Dave did prove Dr. Tour right over and over. Dave showed he was clueless at understanding what these academics were saying and writing in their papers.
@vikingskuld
@vikingskuld 10 ай бұрын
@@Vulture402 that's good to hear. He needs a good dose of humility. The problem seems to be he is so dishonest with himself and everyone else he will never learn. He is just a prime example of an imature, spoiled, dishonest, piece of crap that won't ever grow up. He is like a 2 year old having a temper tantrum
@deemcgann1695
@deemcgann1695 10 ай бұрын
Tour spent the whole debate screeching like a child… you sure he won?
@zebra2346
@zebra2346 10 ай бұрын
​@deemcgann1695 Since when does screeching like a child have anything to do with with the substance of the debate?
@deemcgann1695
@deemcgann1695 10 ай бұрын
@@zebra2346 well he spent all his time screaming and none of it actually debating. Farina won the debate. Cry about it
@Sergeantyummy
@Sergeantyummy 10 ай бұрын
James was actually saying stuff he admired, while dave still threw insults. Whose the real man of character here?
@timothytakang5407
@timothytakang5407 10 ай бұрын
Dr James Tour ❤❤ He deserves his accolades 🎉🎉.. As for the other (Dave Farina), he has to learn some manners.
@AdamLeis
@AdamLeis 10 ай бұрын
Tour also criticized his abilities rather than his person/character. He gave constructive(ish) criticism by pointing out Dave's weaknesses relevant to the discussion rather than trying to defame the individual. Tour "won" that detail of the debate.
@nicowins
@nicowins 10 ай бұрын
Dr. James Tour is a liar. Man of character? Dave 100%. Atleast he do not make stuff up and you should watch the entire video instead.
@GhostBearCommander
@GhostBearCommander 10 ай бұрын
Dave’s entire debate was Ad Hominem. If he had any evidence, why didn’t he explain it instead of reading titles off of discredited and outdated papers? As a Med Lab Tech, I gotta say, belief in Abiogenesis takes a lot more religious faith than any cult currently demands. The odds are Astronomical and Billions of years hinder (not help) it’s chances. At this point, selling Abiogenesis as a “Scientific” theory holds less weight than mythical Zeus.
@delawarecop
@delawarecop 10 ай бұрын
@@nicowins - Atheists embellish their achievements to the point of self delusion. Proof of this is in the reality they they still cannot fabricate life from bare materials, yet they preach that it can occur spontaneously without cause, reason or intelligence. The DELUSION is self evident! But you are correct when you say that Dr James Tour does not make stuff up...and that Dave is 100%...making stuff up.
@RaxxedOut43
@RaxxedOut43 10 ай бұрын
Narcissism on full display from Dave
@noahamy9881
@noahamy9881 9 ай бұрын
OH NOOOO he didnt complement the guy that slandered thousands of his peers OMG
@SanctusBacchus
@SanctusBacchus 8 ай бұрын
​@@noahamy9881Cope and lie more, loser.
@Jaymus71490
@Jaymus71490 8 ай бұрын
That is his M/O
@patula3499
@patula3499 8 ай бұрын
​@@noahamy9881What did he say that was slanderous? Because if you can't prove it, not only are you the slanderer, you're also a hypocrite.
@meraldlag4336
@meraldlag4336 7 ай бұрын
@@patula3499”the man doesn’t know chemistry” - James tour Edit: ok I misread the comment but it’s still funny to see how many adhominems there are
@ohisheh
@ohisheh 9 ай бұрын
Dave Farina may not be nice when it comes to debates but HE IS RIGHT.
@picaroon602
@picaroon602 13 күн бұрын
about what?
@raphaelfeneje486
@raphaelfeneje486 12 күн бұрын
Right about??😂
@nils740
@nils740 4 күн бұрын
No he's not. How did you dream that up? 😂
@ferrisbeuler8657
@ferrisbeuler8657 10 ай бұрын
Dave did not do himself any favors here. His hard-core followers will stick to him but any potential for gaining respect from others was lost here.
@peterlamboy5940
@peterlamboy5940 9 ай бұрын
you're clueless.
@elsawithginathedreamdragon3952
@elsawithginathedreamdragon3952 9 ай бұрын
You should see the past debunk videos that Dave made on tour, like the second one. James gave Dave no respect, especially when James was making fun of Dave’s past career choices and experience. So Dave didn’t feel like give James any compliments in return. Dave won’t fake kindness, but James does. That’s the difference between these two. The “kindness” that James gives feels insincere. Especially since James’s behavior was terrible during this event.
@user-ft1iz2qd2j
@user-ft1iz2qd2j 9 ай бұрын
I don't think he's stupid, I just think he can't read
@reubenmanzo2054
@reubenmanzo2054 8 ай бұрын
I came into this debate initially on Dave's side and my mind got changed. I wouldn't say we "clueless", per se, about origin of life, but I don't think we have nearly as much worked out as Dave claims.
@Southpaw88
@Southpaw88 7 ай бұрын
​@@elsawithginathedreamdragon3952exactly lol that was passive aggressive as if he's looking down on Dave for having a music career and surprised that Dave still has a wife. thats the most cowardly way to insult someone because it shows you don't have the guts to do it directly so you keep it hidden James Tour is a good example of why humans are easy to fool if u just remain calm and make the other guy mad, even if you are talking garbage
@zizuwest1
@zizuwest1 10 ай бұрын
Dave has lost my respect!...he is a example of a character i choose to never become!
@andylewis7360
@andylewis7360 10 ай бұрын
This is quite simply a battle of Light versus Dark. Truth vs Ignorance. Positive vs Negative. Grace vs Disgrace. Good vs Evil.
@jayquelen
@jayquelen 9 ай бұрын
@@andylewis7360lol okay… careful not to get lost in your own irony.
@jamesb3387
@jamesb3387 9 ай бұрын
I bet Dave is gutted about Ur lack of respect
@mathiasrryba
@mathiasrryba 9 ай бұрын
One that pursuits scientific inquiry above believing an ancient fairy tale because you had a vision while masturbating? The selling yourself out to a anti-science think tank that get to control you like a puppet?
@lordoflightning7506
@lordoflightning7506 9 ай бұрын
​@@jayquelencringe vs. not cringe
@swyfilms
@swyfilms 9 ай бұрын
How to contradict a compliment that was just addressed to you... Impressive!
@monkeyojacko
@monkeyojacko 7 ай бұрын
Because it isn’t a compliment. If you could use your brain for once you would understand that Tour just said he admires how Ferina’s wife hasn’t left him yet.
@swyfilms
@swyfilms 7 ай бұрын
@@monkeyojacko My intelligence is the opposite force of your politeness. 😊
@monkeyojacko
@monkeyojacko 7 ай бұрын
@@swyfilms Intelligence huh?
@monkeyojacko
@monkeyojacko 7 ай бұрын
@@swyfilms I only insulted you because you blindly follow a fraud. Who really has a lack of intelligence here?
@meraldlag4336
@meraldlag4336 7 ай бұрын
@@swyfilmsoh the irony…
@robertmiller1299
@robertmiller1299 10 ай бұрын
With great respect I think Dr Tour is mistaken to engage with this man. He should not waste his time.
@SkyKingAzure
@SkyKingAzure 10 ай бұрын
I don't believe that he's engaging with Dave Farina directly - he's engaging with the subscribers and people who go to Dave for their scientific edification.
@Ardiane1
@Ardiane1 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, go to music teachers for science. 😂😂😂😂
@drg8687
@drg8687 9 ай бұрын
Lol he thinks evolution is wrong because of the Bible. He's a fraud.😊
@XericSol
@XericSol 8 ай бұрын
I disagree. While I see your point, these conversations are useful for expressing who people like Dave really are, willfully ignorant narcissistic cultist zealots without a shred of human decency towards his fellow man.
@PeculiarSkeptic
@PeculiarSkeptic 8 ай бұрын
@@XericSolyou understand the exact same thing could be said about James here right? In fact by more people, by more people who are actually knowledgeable on the subject, and by the people who see through their indoctrination instead of falling victim to it.
@SHiFTyTReATS
@SHiFTyTReATS 9 ай бұрын
I know nothing about these two yet I can tell you absolutely which one is defending truth and which one is defending establishment.
@elsawithginathedreamdragon3952
@elsawithginathedreamdragon3952 9 ай бұрын
I could clearly tell who your referring to when you used the words “truth” and “establishment”. Because that always seems to be the common narrative specific people seem to really enjoy. You should really flip them around though, because there’s no way that 1000’s of peer-reviewed research can be lies. That’s like saying the world is lying about science, and that’s really silly.
@maskingtables
@maskingtables 9 ай бұрын
Yeah. Dave defends truth. James Tour only kiss ass and talks like a politician to manipulate his audience.
@xNageed
@xNageed 8 ай бұрын
Read some history, science has lied plenty of times.
@maskingtables
@maskingtables 8 ай бұрын
@@xNageed The only people who have ever been able to show the lies in the scientific communities are other scientists in the scientific community. Popular consensus always challenges the most famous ideas because disproving them means a lot of prestige. The biggest ideas are the most challenged ideas James Tour is not in the community cause he has never been able to have a piece of research published.
@maskingtables
@maskingtables 8 ай бұрын
@@xNageed The only people who have ever been able to show the lies in the scientific communities are other scientists in the scientific community. Popular consensus always challenges the most famous ideas because disproving them means a lot of prestige. The biggest ideas are the most challenged ideas James Tour is not in the community cause he has never been able to have a piece of research published.
@Nashvillain10SE
@Nashvillain10SE 10 ай бұрын
Dave speaks in clickbait language.
@SamTheApe
@SamTheApe 6 ай бұрын
it's amazing how obvious it is that none of you understand what Dave was saying.
@Nashvillain10SE
@Nashvillain10SE 6 ай бұрын
@@SamTheApe In this clip, it's clear that Dave is so insecure in himself and his position that he can't even complete the task given by the person in the audience without hurling childish insults. FAIL.
@SamTheApe
@SamTheApe 6 ай бұрын
@@Nashvillain10SE how dumb are you? watch the debate again lmfao
@magnetiktrax
@magnetiktrax 2 ай бұрын
@@Nashvillain10SE watch the full debate. Tour spent the entire time shouting and shouting over Dave.
@zeadnasser4701
@zeadnasser4701 2 ай бұрын
funniest shit i've read today lol
@davidcanfield883
@davidcanfield883 10 ай бұрын
Farina calls himself Professor Dave. Professorship? Show me where. He's more like 3rd Rate Teaching Assistant Dave. Ask him a question, he'll insult you, then tell you to go read a book. Farina's only acedemic credential is his Bachelor of Arts (not even a Bachelor of Science) in chemistry from Carleton College a Liberal Arts college in Minnesota. Dr. Tour is giving this phoney way too much credit.
@Awsomememes
@Awsomememes 10 ай бұрын
I think you should learn what a Bachelor Arts in Chemistry is, because it does, in fact, have things to do with science. It is an official degree in chemistry, similar to how a person can be called a doctor without any medical knowledge. Titles get misleading at times.
@davidcanfield883
@davidcanfield883 9 ай бұрын
​@@Awsomememes​​😊 I didn't say, nor attempted to imply that it had nothing to do with science. That is what you inferred. I think the word "chemistry" has the science part covered. Let's not pretend that a BA is as rigorous a discipline as a BS. Mr.Farina is not in the same league as Dr. Tour and doesn't deserve to be on the same stage as Dr.Tour. It is only by the gracious generosity of Dr. Tour that "Professor Dave" was invited to be there. Despite being the recipient of Dr. Tour's generosity, Mr. Farina repeatedly displayed his crass personality and went so far to insult and slander Dr. Tour in saying that Dr. Tour was lying. When referring to Dave Farina, BA stands for Blatant A-hole.
@elsawithginathedreamdragon3952
@elsawithginathedreamdragon3952 9 ай бұрын
I don’t think your rank of education is very important here, because James doesn’t have a Doctorate in Origin of Life research, nor any of the necessary background. While Dave is in a similar position (of not having the right qualifications to claim he knows the ins and outs of Origin of Life Research), he does not contradict or misrepresent the research of that field. He reads the papers and studies the copious amounts of Research that was done by other people who have been studying this field for years. He takes this knowledge and presents it to the common folk. He even asks others who personally study the field to help him explain things. All I’ve seen James do is repeat the same irrelevant talking points and misinterpret research. Various people who James had slandered even commented on the incorrect interpretations James made. This can be seen in Dave’s debunk videos. 😳
@markbarnett9275
@markbarnett9275 9 ай бұрын
​@davidcanfield883 ironic .. all it takes is a 3rd degree education to hold childish nonsense accountable; the bible is meant to mollify night terrors in children not adults... throw away the crutch... it's the 21st century ffs.
@nagranoth_
@nagranoth_ 9 ай бұрын
So... do you feel the need to lie often? Is that why you like Tour, because he's a kindred soul? If you ask Dave a question he'll explain it to the best of his ability. What you call insulting is actually Dave accurately describing Tour's behavior and dishonesty. Tour doesn't deserve being treated with respect until he starts being honest again.
@andrej1659
@andrej1659 10 ай бұрын
Shows that Dave is arguing out of emotions not reason
@MultiSky7
@MultiSky7 10 ай бұрын
He is aware that he's clueless, that's why he's behaving like a bulldog. If he knew the answer to what dr. Tour asked him, ooo, he would be more than happy to rip him apart. ... yet .... crickets (and insults).
@bass-dc9175
@bass-dc9175 9 ай бұрын
@@MultiSky7 Uhm ... he did try to answer but tour talked over him. I think you should rewatch the debate.
@MultiSky7
@MultiSky7 9 ай бұрын
@@bass-dc9175Cut that lying BS. He played dead for 45minutes, and then at 1:28:59 he wrote "NOT CLUELESS". I won't tell you to rewatch it, because you already knew this. Spineless indoctrinated despicable liars.
@chrislake3081
@chrislake3081 9 ай бұрын
​@MultiSky7 MR MULTI SKY ! (POINTS CHALK) HERE GO GO , GO GO , YOU DON'T DO IT , YOU JUST TALK ! IF YOU CAN'T DRAW GOD ON A CHALKBOARD THEN IT DOESN'T EXIST !
@ramigilneas9274
@ramigilneas9274 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, the guy who screamed like a lunatic the entire debate totally didn’t sound emotional at all.
@tonysheilds4681
@tonysheilds4681 10 ай бұрын
It's easy to see that Dave is a narcissist who is trying to debate with someone who is clearly way above his level. His response and actions prove it.
@jamesb3387
@jamesb3387 9 ай бұрын
Oh really
@tonysheilds4681
@tonysheilds4681 9 ай бұрын
@@jamesb3387 really
@jamesb3387
@jamesb3387 9 ай бұрын
@@tonysheilds4681 explain how he's a narcissist and way above his level?
@tonysheilds4681
@tonysheilds4681 9 ай бұрын
@@jamesb3387 shure, I have known many narcissist in my life. A very common link between their actions is that they try to reach beyond their ability. If someone calls them out on it they become belligerently insulting. That is exactly what happened with Dave. And please understand I mean him no ill will. I am just pointing out that his lack of savility in this debate is exactly how I have seen many narcissist behave before.
@tonysheilds4681
@tonysheilds4681 9 ай бұрын
When I say he was out of his league, I mean that Dr. Tour did his best to remove hyperbole, so he asked some straightforward questions. He wrote them on the board and asked Dave to answer the questions on the board. That was all he had to do to win the argument. But it was clear that he could not do it. I have taught many subjects that I know inside out, and when a student comes to me and tries to explain or talk on a subject, I know I can tell their level very quickly.
@ryans8081
@ryans8081 10 ай бұрын
Dave may have a website, wife and two kids, and a load of subscribers on his YT channel but he needs to learn a lesson or two on humility and how to properly debate and respect his opponent. He constantly attacked Dr. James Tour's character in the debate rather than refute the arguments he made. It was embarrassing. James Tour won that debate hard.
@meraldlag4336
@meraldlag4336 10 ай бұрын
“rather than refute the arguments he made” have a look at the debate, so many times James kept shouting over him asking for more details or making his own claimes, Dave showed evidence for his side.
@ryans8081
@ryans8081 10 ай бұрын
@@meraldlag4336 No he didn't, he just cited various "research papers", but if you watched Dr. James Tour's series on the origin of life, he explains that the summary of those research papers don't even fully explain how life first originated (they actually agree with Dr. Tour's analysis), and then the authors mislead people with faulty headlines saying they do understand how life began. And poor Dave Farina bought into this without looking into the data of the papers themselves, which agrees with what James Tour has said time and time again: That, as of right now, we are clueless on the origin of life.
@meraldlag4336
@meraldlag4336 10 ай бұрын
Ok honest question because I’m not experienced enough to understand many of the papers - do you think they are fraudulent?
@ryans8081
@ryans8081 10 ай бұрын
@@meraldlag4336 They're misleading in the headlines their authors point out. When looking at the substance that is in the research papers, they don't fully answer the 5 main questions that Dr. Tour said MUST be answered to solve how life first originated. So in that regard, yes, the scientists claiming in the research papers that we do know how life first originated are wrong. We don't. That isn't to say we won't find out how life originated someday, nor is it to say "therefore God" as that's God of the gaps, but as of right now, we simply don't know how life first originated.
@janicep1508
@janicep1508 10 ай бұрын
​@@meraldlag4336the papers are not fraudulent, but lacking. They present them as solid, when they have gaping holes.
@discerningx3375
@discerningx3375 10 ай бұрын
Farina is really classless. Any respect I had... gone baby gone.
@mathiasrryba
@mathiasrryba 9 ай бұрын
James blatantly lying about his "praises" towards Farina is what should've done it for you.
@ImALefty08
@ImALefty08 8 ай бұрын
@@mathiasrryba what's the lie?
@mathiasrryba
@mathiasrryba 8 ай бұрын
@@ImALefty08 that he has any respect towards Dave. All he claimed in this debate he "praised" Dave for he was viciously mocking previously on his YT channel. He was just playing nice for the audience
@someguy4003
@someguy4003 8 ай бұрын
​@@mathiasrrybathe audeince dodnt like dave at all, Farina didnt have to "win" the crowd over. In fact that audience probably wouldve cheered 10x louder than they did if he had insulted Dave, and yet he chose to praise him and lessen the noise to his misbenefit.
@ImALefty08
@ImALefty08 7 ай бұрын
@@mathiasrryba so he was mocking the ideology and not Dave himself, is that what you're saying? Can you send me the link so I can watch it myself?
@SeidmannRavn
@SeidmannRavn 10 ай бұрын
Mr. Farin comes off as such a petty man…
@jayquelen
@jayquelen 9 ай бұрын
Same with Dr. Clour
@GoogleIsNotYourFriend
@GoogleIsNotYourFriend 9 ай бұрын
It can be exhausting trying to expose the disingenuous nature of the faithful who attempt to affirm their beliefs by misrepresenting science and knowledge...they are a dime a dozen.
@justelvin
@justelvin 9 ай бұрын
He is
@TiredOldSparky
@TiredOldSparky 9 ай бұрын
He is.
@B.A.B.G.
@B.A.B.G. 8 ай бұрын
It's all he got.
@philipprice171
@philipprice171 10 ай бұрын
Farina may not be stupid but he could do with a few lessons on manners. A thoroughly unpleasant, rude individual who attacks a man whose knowledge of the subject totally dwarfs his.
@cooperrichard6
@cooperrichard6 10 ай бұрын
Yeah , no kidding.
@LordBlk
@LordBlk 10 ай бұрын
Man, I posted for the first time on farina's channel...4 thousand comments. And the guy replied to me....called me a fanatic fool...among other things....
@andylewis7360
@andylewis7360 10 ай бұрын
@@LordBlkJust shows how much emotional investment some people have in proving God doesn’t exist when others just want to know the truth, whatever that may be.
@LordBlk
@LordBlk 10 ай бұрын
@@andylewis7360 yeah, funnily enough Dave farina replied a few more times. Challenged I pursued watching his videos. After about 7 or 8 videos. I found the crux of his opinion. His personality is very self absorbed. Even when pressed on using current simple cells as the model for single cells and dave is cornered, he will say "it is a proto-cell that we can't (actually) know what it would be like Because millions of years...." That is his axiom. He borrows the power of science to make truth claims the conclusions that follow from that axiom. Another axiom one would be "there is no god" Therefore, what he says is based more off of an "allowable" set of semantically disambiguated propositions. Fundamentally, missing the point of being open to truth itself. Sorry for the rant
@benjaminknotts745
@benjaminknotts745 10 ай бұрын
@@LordBlkHe’s replied to me as well. I appreciate your story on it. His smugness and arrogance aren’t indicative of incite or clarity. He pretends to have intellectual superiority so well he convinces himself of his own delusions
@stuffhappens5681
@stuffhappens5681 10 ай бұрын
When backed into a corner with logic and reason the pseudo intellectual always resorts to insults.
@tabularasa0606
@tabularasa0606 9 ай бұрын
ANd that's exactly what James Tour did
@stuffhappens5681
@stuffhappens5681 9 ай бұрын
@@tabularasa0606 - You’re hilariously funny, Einstein.
@mathiasrryba
@mathiasrryba 9 ай бұрын
Check out first video Dave did on Tour and Tour's first response to Dave. You'll be in on a ride.
@handman360
@handman360 9 ай бұрын
@@stuffhappens5681 while dave is being a dick, the entire debate is james screaming like a newborn child at any argument presented. got really annoying fast.
@davspa6
@davspa6 9 ай бұрын
Right. If he had any sense he would say, "Dr. Tour, I'm obviously not in your class as a scientist. But for the sake of the people here I'll try to ask some intelligent questions, so they didn't waste their time today.. " Instead he insulted everyone in the room and totally embarrassed himself. And he doesn't even care.
@voiceofREASONS
@voiceofREASONS 10 ай бұрын
You have to act like this when your position is based on lies. It's called gaslighting.
@dylanneely91
@dylanneely91 8 ай бұрын
Like a book of guesses from 1600 years ago?
@jarenthompson915
@jarenthompson915 7 ай бұрын
Yes, Dave acts on guesses
@SamTheApe
@SamTheApe 6 ай бұрын
it's amazing how obvious it is that none of you understand what Dave was saying.
@jarenthompson915
@jarenthompson915 6 ай бұрын
@@SamTheApe it's obvious the "professor" is amazingly wrong about so many things none of us accept. Rewatch the clip and ask yourself 'why does the crowd laugh at Dave'?
@SamTheApe
@SamTheApe 6 ай бұрын
@@jarenthompson915 are you that dumb to ask why the crowd of a theological school is laughing at someone proving that their martyr is a fucking idiot?
@thefactoryratgenius4659
@thefactoryratgenius4659 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for not being like Dave Farina.
@kemicalhazard8770
@kemicalhazard8770 10 ай бұрын
MIISSSTEERR FARINNAA!!! GO GO GO GO GO!!!! YOU DONT DO IT YOU JUST TALK TALK TALK TALK TALJ
@armandoc.3150
@armandoc.3150 10 ай бұрын
@@kemicalhazard8770 You’ve never been annoyed by someone who just talks but never does anything? Nevertheless, James didn’t act like farina.
@SojuNinja
@SojuNinja 9 ай бұрын
@@armandoc.3150 And Farina didn't act like Tour. Yeah, Dave was being condescending, but he was constantly being talked over and yelled at. You'd imagine a professor of all people would have the capacity to keep his composure.
@armandoc.3150
@armandoc.3150 9 ай бұрын
@@SojuNinja Oh shut up lol farina was making stupid ass comments while James was talking and after his answer was bullsht and not an answer, just an insult. This is James first debate, not Dave’s. So Dave should been more mature given that he has debated more, which he clearly showed that he doesn’t care about his opponents and was not there to debate but to ridicule and “expose” lol sad.
@peterlamboy5940
@peterlamboy5940 9 ай бұрын
Don't be stupid
@fyrerayne8882
@fyrerayne8882 10 ай бұрын
I lost a lot of respect for Farina
@monkeyojacko
@monkeyojacko 7 ай бұрын
How? Dave is doing what a good science communicator does by calling people out for lying to the public. I gained lots of respect for him at this debate.
@AxiomaLibre
@AxiomaLibre 7 ай бұрын
@@monkeyojacko Being a jerk?
@3vil3lvis
@3vil3lvis 7 ай бұрын
LMAO never had any respect for Dumb Ass Dave in the first place. The majority of his arguments are "No its not".
@SamTheApe
@SamTheApe 6 ай бұрын
it's amazing how obvious it is that none of you understand what Dave was saying.
@jeremiah5319
@jeremiah5319 3 ай бұрын
And I never had any respect for Farina, so you're catching up to my position. I guess I just discerned him from earlier evidence.
@seraficaweis6317
@seraficaweis6317 10 ай бұрын
One can see who is authentically intelligent. Thank you Dr.James Tour for being that.
@paulseitz5749
@paulseitz5749 10 ай бұрын
Yo, so hear me out. Actually listen to what the guy is saying and what the question was. What do you admire about your opposites SCIENTIFIC career. Then what he does is says he's good at music and restates his points about how he can't read the literature and how he is wrong. I don't know who this is or what this debate is about. All I know is that this is a master class of debate not about the facts. The other guy broke and didn't know what to say to such a back handed complement.
@likeahouseonfire
@likeahouseonfire 10 ай бұрын
@@paulseitz5749 If you watch the debate you'll see that slander was part of Farina's presentation. I think you can still compliment someone and disagree with them.
@isaacclarkefan
@isaacclarkefan 10 ай бұрын
@@paulseitz5749 Dave has no scientific career, he has no published papers or anything
@godloves9163
@godloves9163 10 ай бұрын
@@isaacclarkefanhypocrites don’t care about those facts. As long as they push their fake “science” philosophies as if they are fact, you wouldn’t need a degree in anything.
@vikingskuld
@vikingskuld 10 ай бұрын
Dave is one of the most toxic and childish people on KZfaq. Of all the channels on here his should be removes as he shouldn't be allowed to talk to children. He is not adult enough or decent enough of a person to be allowed any way to speak to kids. All the crap going on today makes kids already turn out bad we don't need Dave showing kids it's OK to act that way.......
@ajbleas
@ajbleas 10 ай бұрын
Any unbiased scientist would admire Dr. Tour's contributions to the scientific community with over 700 publications.
@bass-dc9175
@bass-dc9175 9 ай бұрын
Over 700 publications, yet he does not publish any critique on current origin of life models ... Nor does he even try. I wonder why.
@General_Maximus
@General_Maximus 9 ай бұрын
This man has contributed NOTHING of value to the scientific community.
@saintmichael881
@saintmichael881 9 ай бұрын
​@bass-dc9175 you didn't go through his published list then 😂
@peterlamboy5940
@peterlamboy5940 9 ай бұрын
You have to be kidding. Dr. Tour..lmao
@bass-dc9175
@bass-dc9175 9 ай бұрын
@@saintmichael881 I did. I am sorry to say that writing an article on a blog that receives zero fact checking: Is not valid. It seems that you were the one who didn't go through his list of publications ... So no: he did not publish a single critique on current origin of life models in any scientific journal. He knows how to do it. He knows that it has been done before by others. Yet he does not even try to present it to peer review.
@markchiedozie840
@markchiedozie840 10 ай бұрын
I had some respect for dave before this debate, mainly because I thought he was a gentleman, and also his courage to want to debate Dr tour. But I was greatly disappointed
@reubenmanzo2054
@reubenmanzo2054 9 ай бұрын
I promptly unsubscribed from Dave's channel after seeing this debate. His attitude with Matt Walsh was strike 1, this debate was strike 2, I don't play baseball so I'm not going to wait for strike 3.
@noahamy9881
@noahamy9881 9 ай бұрын
@@reubenmanzo2054 if he was any nicer than telling matt walsh to jump off a bridge he was too nice
@SamTheApe
@SamTheApe 6 ай бұрын
it's amazing how obvious it is that none of you understand what Dave was saying.
@markchiedozie840
@markchiedozie840 6 ай бұрын
@@SamTheApe would you be kind enough to enlighten us on what he was saying? All he did was quote titles of research papers he probably didn't read and was trying to pair Dr tour against the authors. Now Dr tour has challenged those scientists on their claims, just one showed up and he didn't even address any of Dr tour argument in anyway, just as Dave did too
@markchiedozie840
@markchiedozie840 6 ай бұрын
@@SamTheApe would you be kind enough to enlighten us on what he was saying? All he did was quote titles of research papers he probably didn't read and was trying to pair Dr tour against the authors. Now Dr tour has challenged those scientists on their claims, just one showed up and he didn't even address any of Dr tour argument in anyway, just as Dave did too
@cooperrichard6
@cooperrichard6 10 ай бұрын
Dr.Tour mever should have debated someone who is mot even on his universe academically.
@ramigilneas9274
@ramigilneas9274 9 ай бұрын
Well, accomplished scientists refuse to debate creationists and religious fanatics like Tour. So Tour should thank Dave that he gave his nonsense a platform.
@hermanwooster8944
@hermanwooster8944 9 ай бұрын
@@ramigilneas9274 Tour is an accomplished scientist.
@joyconboyz8876
@joyconboyz8876 7 ай бұрын
Do you know that dr. Tours h index is much higher than the "renowned scientific scholars" you claim him not be?​@@ramigilneas9274
@monkeyojacko
@monkeyojacko 7 ай бұрын
@@hermanwooster8944 All the science he does is chemistry. This dude can’t even get that right though.
@jamentrojcak2852
@jamentrojcak2852 7 ай бұрын
@@hermanwooster8944 in nanotech, not origin of life research
@NThTwS
@NThTwS 10 ай бұрын
Dr James Tour just praised the guy for his wonderful career online, and the other guy slandered him. That's what you get when you can't defend your position.
@bass-dc9175
@bass-dc9175 9 ай бұрын
I agree. May I direct to Tours previous responses to Mr. Farina? Particularly where Tour used clips from a music video and pictures from Daves social media accounts to try and paint him as a madman. And his distain for the educational website he created, urging people to unsubscribe from it. With that bit of context Tours "praise" becomes this: 1) He praises his ability to make a website, but calls the content he creates worthless. 2) He praises his music career, but also uses it as material for attacking Dave directly. 3) He praises his ability to stay maried. Which is yet another thinnly hidden insult, voicing his surprise that his wife has not left him yet. Do you find it at all surprising now, that Dave reacted in the way he did?
@NThTwS
@NThTwS 9 ай бұрын
@@bass-dc9175 "1) He praises his ability to make a website, but calls the content he creates worthless." If I create a tower on sand then I created a worthless tower, unable to defend a big tide, didn't I? But I still used the resources and my intelligence to do that, didn't I? "2) He praises his music career, but also uses it as material for attacking Dave directly." I am talking about that video, not another one. Anything to say about that particular video we are discussing about? 3) "3) He praises his ability to stay maried. Which is yet another thinnly hidden insult, voicing his surprise that his wife has not left him yet." Or that he didn't leave his wife yet. Which actually shouldn't be considered right or wrong since there is no right or wrong under the atheistic umbrella. "Do you find it at all surprising now, that Dave reacted in the way he did?" Yes I do find it still surprised that he reacted that way, since Dr Tour did praise his career regardless of the way he reads the papers, regardless of his naivete and inability to trust people around him. Now you can say anything you want, the fact is that Dave didn't only lash against Tour but also against the audience.
@Darksiegify
@Darksiegify 9 ай бұрын
@@bass-dc9175Two weak men with weak arguments. Who gives a fuck?
@jamesb3387
@jamesb3387 9 ай бұрын
Did u actually watch the debate??
@burkles4456
@burkles4456 9 ай бұрын
I was with you all in the comments until i realized it a religion debate. God's not real but i hope he brings you happiness.
@dgpreston5593
@dgpreston5593 10 ай бұрын
To admire the ability to lie tenaciously... Dave needs prayers, yall
@tabularasa0606
@tabularasa0606 9 ай бұрын
Talking to yourself won't do anything but waste your time.
@robertramsey653
@robertramsey653 9 ай бұрын
​@@tabularasa0606Do yourself a favor, write these 2 statements side by side and be honest which one makes more sense. "In the beginning nothing exploded and created the universe and everything in it" and "In the beginning GOD created the Heaven and the earth". Put them side by side and do some critical thinking. GOD exists, and one day, we all will stand before HIM and give an account of our lives. There is one difference between all that will stand before GOD, some will have JESUS and most will not. Be in the group that has JESUS. There really is ample evidence for the existence of GOD if you are honest and put away your pride. Dont be foolish.
@DatHombre
@DatHombre 9 ай бұрын
​@@robertramsey653The origin of life is a totally separate topic than the origin of the universe, and clearly nothing they spoke about had anything to the universe's origin. Why creationists always NEED to combine these topics is beyond me. Maybe just due to ignorance? Maybe because "science bad" regardless of the topic? Or a combination of the two? But what's more important, and what really demonstrates how ridiculous creationists are, is that you guys make these questions "either or's". Evolution could be true, the big bang could be true, abiogenesis could be true- ALL the supposed "bad atheist beliefs" that you guys are so resistant to could be true, and guess what? God could STILL exist. Sure, you'd have to join all the educated theists (who didn't get their "degree" from a Christian fundamentalist college) and drop the biblical literalism, and maybe that's too much for you guys, but regardless yeah, surprisingly enough your God actually CAN coexist with all of these, and I guarantee if you would all actually get that into your head, truly, then all of a sudden the science would magically stop being "sooo unbelievable". Or in other words, bias would stop clouding your judgement.
@robertramsey653
@robertramsey653 9 ай бұрын
@@DatHombre Actually NO, those theories and GOD absolutely could not coexist, and just because you say so, doesnt mean it is so. GOD'S WORD says HE created life, not HE put the right chemicals in the ocean to form the prebiotic soup, and then life formed itself and then evolution, so again, no the two can not coexist. And the reason I bring up cosmological creation is because if you dont have a universe, you have nothing else, and if a universe cant create itself, neither can life, nothing can create itself, and nothing can create nothing. I have a hard time believing that something like life and consciousness could come from hydrogen gas. I think how easily you guys buy into evolution is really crazy. nothing guides evolution right? Then why are we so even physically? 2 arms, 2 legs, 10 toes, 10 fingers. Why not 3 legs or 1 arm? Why not one eye or an ear that wraps around our head? Why does everything we have physically have a use? If its unguided, then eventually we would get something on us that would not have a use. Why do we not see evolution happening right now in anything, not us, not animals, nothing. I'm talking macro evolution, not micro. It doesnt happen and there is no evidence for it. I hear people talk about all the evidence for evolution, but that's all they say, is there is evidence for evolution, they dont give the actual evidence. So what's the evidence for evolution?
@mathiasrryba
@mathiasrryba 9 ай бұрын
That entire response James gave was a lie if you ever witnessed James talk about Dave before.
@MRUHY
@MRUHY 10 ай бұрын
I take my hat off for James Tour. A true gentlemen with integrity, honor, wisdom and intelligence. Dave proved he didn't deserve this opportunity Greetings and much shalom from Texas
@TexasBig
@TexasBig 10 ай бұрын
****Youth are teaching disrespect in all fields. Mr. Tour is a sincere honest individual that has many accomplishments to disrespect him without evidence. Love you James! You're an inspiration and always will be unlike your opponent.
@TodaysBibleTruth
@TodaysBibleTruth 10 ай бұрын
You can certainly see the true colors of each of them here.
@bass-dc9175
@bass-dc9175 9 ай бұрын
I agree. May I direct to Tours previous responses to Mr. Farina? Particularly where Tour used clips from a music video and pictures from Daves social media accounts to try and paint him as a madman. And his distain for the educational website he created, urging people to unsubscribe from it. With that bit of context Tours "praise" becomes this: 1) He praises his ability to make a website, but calls the content he creates worthless. 2) He praises his music career, but also uses it as material for attacking Dave directly. 3) He praises his ability to stay maried. Which is yet another thinnly hidden insult, voicing his surprise that his wife has not left him yet. Do you find it at all surprising now, that Dave reacted in the way he did?
@agiantpear7744
@agiantpear7744 9 ай бұрын
Farina’s defeat was breathtaking. He not only lost the debate, but more tragically revealed himself to be a tiny little man.
@monkeyojacko
@monkeyojacko 7 ай бұрын
So you trust the screaming religious man over the dude who brings evidence?
@SamTheApe
@SamTheApe 6 ай бұрын
it's amazing how obvious it is that none of you understand what Dave was saying.
@jeremiah5319
@jeremiah5319 3 ай бұрын
To refer to Dave Farina as a "man" is quite generous and kind. I guess you mean chronologically.
@joeharm8141
@joeharm8141 Ай бұрын
Dirty Dave is this you ???
@JewandGreek
@JewandGreek 9 ай бұрын
Prof Dave is like a first year civics student who thinks he can run the world. To me he just comes across as a troll.
@MoMo-uj6xb
@MoMo-uj6xb 9 ай бұрын
i admire the unconditional kindness of Dr Tour, he truly believe in his values.
@noahamy9881
@noahamy9881 9 ай бұрын
if you think thats "unconditional kindness" you have zero social skills
@ordinaryindividual6246
@ordinaryindividual6246 4 ай бұрын
He's trying to appeal to his Christian anti-origin of life audience like you
@robertszontagh1297
@robertszontagh1297 10 ай бұрын
Dave is a smart guy, just not as smart as he thinks he is... either that or very insecure.
@SamTheApe
@SamTheApe 6 ай бұрын
it's amazing how obvious it is that none of you understand what Dave was saying.
@Sanuck176
@Sanuck176 9 ай бұрын
Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.
@williamvallespir5509
@williamvallespir5509 10 ай бұрын
I love how in a later interview about this event you don't speak about Dave's character and poor debate skills. The world needs more like Tour.
@jarretbooe713
@jarretbooe713 8 ай бұрын
"Sir, u are lying. I AM indeed stupid" - clueless guy
@KJ-ho6sb
@KJ-ho6sb 8 ай бұрын
perfect score 😂😂😂😂
@CJ-ik8qf
@CJ-ik8qf 3 ай бұрын
James tour got demolished
@stringbean02
@stringbean02 9 ай бұрын
So Professor Dave throws one insult in after getting yelled at and talked over for 2 hours, seems a reasonable response to any sane person. Ol' Jimbo tried to seem kind and upstanding here but if anyone actually watched the debate they would have seen how unhinged he was throughout.
@edwinamendelssohn5129
@edwinamendelssohn5129 9 ай бұрын
He didn't get the assignment. His arrogance wouldn't let him. A man of truth is a man of humility.
@mikenissley3169
@mikenissley3169 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for making them take a good hard look at their claims and the origin of life! Love you Dr James!
@chrisazure1624
@chrisazure1624 10 ай бұрын
Dave is such a Troll.
@Tou-Immanuel
@Tou-Immanuel 10 ай бұрын
He’s a real 🐀
@SeattleDinghyer
@SeattleDinghyer 9 ай бұрын
When you confront someone with the truth, it isn't considered trolling.
@chrisazure1624
@chrisazure1624 9 ай бұрын
@@SeattleDinghyer Can you answer Dr. Tour's questions? No? Then it is speculation, not truth.
@jamesb3387
@jamesb3387 9 ай бұрын
​@@chrisazure1624do you even have any idea what Tour was asking? I think not
@chrisazure1624
@chrisazure1624 9 ай бұрын
@jamesb3387 Yes, I do. He is asking for the process that would assemble life without intelligent intervention even if given some of the fundamental building blocks. So far, no one has answered him.
@Billb9I3
@Billb9I3 10 ай бұрын
Admire you Dr Tour for standing up for the Gospel Truth and helping dispel the misinformation in OOL Science.
@markbarnett9275
@markbarnett9275 9 ай бұрын
There's zero misinformation... there is research on the one side & there is a position mired in ontological semantics purporting all manner of things with no evidence... scientific literature?... not a chance... ool studies doesn't have a template... all these geniuses caught up in the detail missing (being disingenuous) the absolutes of time & impingement... it ain't rocket science.
@sandroelbers
@sandroelbers 9 ай бұрын
People in these comments actually think tour won?😂 he said nothing of substance and dave proved him to be a lier and wrong😂.
@kevind6723
@kevind6723 9 ай бұрын
Dave absolutely won this debate. Mr. Tour comes off as unhinged almost the entire time.
@thisistheron
@thisistheron 9 ай бұрын
Farina is still correct 😂 He doesn’t have to be kind to a fool who disrespects intelligence and science.
@zzzzz77771
@zzzzz77771 9 ай бұрын
How Dave had a single subscriber after this debate is a total mystery to me.
@koajfuenfsai339
@koajfuenfsai339 9 ай бұрын
I'd like to know how James still has subscribers after that. Most of the time he yelled and talked over Dave and just wrote clueless to act like he won
@kevinmiller6443
@kevinmiller6443 9 ай бұрын
He is a source of confirmation bias for other narcissists. It's that simple, despite how intelligent they believe they are.
@maskingtables
@maskingtables 9 ай бұрын
​@@kevinmiller6443oh God. This world is truly lost.
@joeharm8141
@joeharm8141 Ай бұрын
He did win & dirty Dave is a dumpster
@beefsupreme4671
@beefsupreme4671 10 ай бұрын
You don’t have to be an expert to understand that life does not come from non living stuff, and that the idea that a self replicating cell can not just appear by chance.
@Catherinetatethefkingliberty
@Catherinetatethefkingliberty 10 ай бұрын
I suppose lay folks needed someone like Dr. James Tour with plenty of scientific credentials to come out and say that. In the face of so much hostility from atheistic academia pushing atheistic theory like it is fact, it is understandable lay folks get confused.
@markbarnett9275
@markbarnett9275 9 ай бұрын
huh?... says who?... the bible?... having all the answers with no detail & then saying science has no detail therefore it doesn't the answers... that's somewhat the point; as for the self-replication... complex comes from simple... a-la the eye. Throw away the crutch champion it's the 21st century... the bible is meant to mollify night terrors in children... not adults.
@ozballa
@ozballa 9 ай бұрын
Literally everything happens by chance, the scientific method is just one way to calculate the probability of it occurring and under what circumstances.
@DrewSmithTPA
@DrewSmithTPA 9 ай бұрын
Who said that the first living thing was a cell?
@beefsupreme4671
@beefsupreme4671 9 ай бұрын
@@DrewSmithTPA it has to be a cell. All reproduction happens in a cell
@1GODISNOWHERE1
@1GODISNOWHERE1 10 ай бұрын
Dave Farina is a self proclaimed professor. Never forget that.
@MultiSky7
@MultiSky7 10 ай бұрын
Yup. When you see someone referring to himself in 3rd person ("prof. Dave explains"), you know you are dealing with narcissistic imbecile. Not to even start with the fact that he isn't professor.
@wabbitseason80085
@wabbitseason80085 9 ай бұрын
He is. He tought a college for bit.
@MultiSky7
@MultiSky7 9 ай бұрын
@@wabbitseason80085 I used to work in finances, that doesn't make me an economist.
@wabbitseason80085
@wabbitseason80085 9 ай бұрын
@@MultiSky7 being a professor just means someone who has taught a college class.
@MultiSky7
@MultiSky7 9 ай бұрын
@@wabbitseason80085 Not true. Professor is an academic rank (title) at universities and other post-secondary education and research institutions. Educate yourself, stop listening to narcissistic idiots.
@randalmoroski1184
@randalmoroski1184 10 ай бұрын
With his attitude…He may not stay married long!
@monkeyojacko
@monkeyojacko 7 ай бұрын
Attitude? Didn’t Tour have more of an attitude?
@shadowlazers
@shadowlazers 2 ай бұрын
God says .u suck
@andyarellanoChannel
@andyarellanoChannel 10 ай бұрын
Jim gave dave five challenges he failed at them all. All dave has to do is complete one of them and Jim says he will go away never to be heard from again. dave can't do so he gripes and groans, swearing at anyone that does not agree him. In the end he told dave why he is clueless in this area: 1) you need extreme conditions 178 on one side and -78 on the other is extreme (dave says this is not extreme) 2) you cannot create a a hydroxylated nor deaminated amino acid they are too volatile (dave skipped this part) 2) you need man made synthetic compounds that do not exist in nature (dave ignored this part) 4) even when you do create something it is so denatured with 2'5' that it would not be functional (dave says it does not matter, but it would cause dysfunctional RNA)
@kevinmiller6443
@kevinmiller6443 9 ай бұрын
Dave is not interesting in truth or science. He is only interested in getting attention, and doling out more confirmation bias to other narcissists. "Argumentum ad populum" is the foundation of his worldview. People are indoctrinated into his worldview through public school (included Dr. Tour and myself). Their worldview is not the product of critical thinking or the scientific method, but of ignorance and social engineering.
@AnandShah3977
@AnandShah3977 9 ай бұрын
When you can't say a single good thing about your opponent... you, yourself are not a worthy opponent.
@flourishers
@flourishers 9 ай бұрын
Dave is just an emotional spoiled kid with no manners at all. He's no match to Dr Tour at all.
@ordinaryindividual6246
@ordinaryindividual6246 3 ай бұрын
In what way is he “no match”
@joeharm8141
@joeharm8141 Ай бұрын
I don’t know how anyone respects dirty Dave… he clearly has issues
@ordinaryindividual6246
@ordinaryindividual6246 Ай бұрын
@@joeharm8141 are you willing to explain what issues? Or are you just gonna leave it at that like any other clueless creationist which doesn’t know anything about science because you all failed science
@abetterworld96
@abetterworld96 8 ай бұрын
Everyone missed the point of the debate, it wasn't about whether or not a higher being exists, it was about whether or not we know anything about the origin of life. Tour explained we know nothing about the origin of life but didn't involve a superior being, but ofc ppl are like "because we don't know the origin of life, then it's definitely a god". Stop using the god of the gaps argument guys. Yes, Tour completely owned Dave in this debate but he wasn't implying what you guys are implying. Stop arguing and acting like children ppl.
@wefinishthisnow3883
@wefinishthisnow3883 9 ай бұрын
This clip is out of context. James had been disrespecting Professor Dave for a long time and the claims of lies came from what was before.
@banquo4223
@banquo4223 9 ай бұрын
Love how everyone ignores the fact that you literally were screaming at some points, and clearly brought up things that you admired as some weird power move to win audience points. Oh and don’t forget the fact that you asked a question that Dave answered WITH LITERARY SOURCES and your immediate response was “nuh uh”. How can you call yourself a scientist if you refuse to look at the science?
@zzzzz77771
@zzzzz77771 9 ай бұрын
But that isn't what happened is it... you're strawmanning the situation so that the following accusation won't seem absurd. You didn't understand what was happening in this debate, just admit it.
@vannersp
@vannersp 10 ай бұрын
There's a big gap between stupid and genius. He can avoid stupid, but there was only one genius on that stage, and it clearly wasn't him.
@adskw1935
@adskw1935 9 ай бұрын
After watching the full debate, my KZfaq feed is now getting these little shorts from the James Tour channel. They all just show quick clips out of context with comment sections that are flooded with James Tour supporters. It’s so intellectually dishonest that my head is spinning. James Tour was a raving, over emotional, immature, effeminate lunatic the entire time DURING the debate. BEFORE the debate James Tour was trashing Farina and other scientists with lies and stupid jokes and childish memes for months in end. Farina had every right to say what he said and it was not said out of nowhere. The group think and herd like behavior on this channel is disturbing to say the least.
@tuberobotto
@tuberobotto 8 ай бұрын
Did you cry yourself to sleep after that? 😅😅😅 "life is tough, go wear a helmet" - Candace Owens 😅
@adskw1935
@adskw1935 8 ай бұрын
@Tuberbotto Wow you quoted somebody else and then patted yourself on the back for being clever. Are you 12 years old? I make an observation and you question my toughness. That’s really silly and irrelevant. What does that have to do with what I actually said? Give me an original thought, genius. Tell me where I’m wrong. You WANT Tour to be right so if anyone challenges that you go into personal attack mode. That’s weak. Give me an original defense of what actually happened at this debate.
@tablab165
@tablab165 9 ай бұрын
Professor Dave is arrogant…. But correct when it comes to refuting all of Tour’s claims.
@andylewis7360
@andylewis7360 10 ай бұрын
That’s giving some seriously female energy there, Dave. Be a man and treat another man with respect.
@SojuNinja
@SojuNinja 9 ай бұрын
If you want to go this route, "female energy" has more to do with shouting over others (Tour) and making spectacles (Tour's "CLUELESS" notes) than calmly calling the other party "crazy." Both did wrong, but I'd say Tour had the more "female energy" of the two.
@andylewis7360
@andylewis7360 9 ай бұрын
@@SojuNinja I say, You Say. Fair enough, fanboy. Whatever
@SojuNinja
@SojuNinja 9 ай бұрын
@@andylewis7360 You go sister.
@andylewis7360
@andylewis7360 9 ай бұрын
@@SojuNinja I shall
@neddanison9202
@neddanison9202 9 ай бұрын
The smug face on Farina triggers a gag reflex.
@ordinaryindividual6246
@ordinaryindividual6246 4 ай бұрын
Is this really all you anti-origin of life Christians can say??
@archivist17
@archivist17 9 ай бұрын
Dave's not wrong. Tour yelling nonsense doesn't win a debate. He's a joke.
@ghanaserapis999
@ghanaserapis999 7 ай бұрын
You're the joke, but too stupid to see the people laughing at you, not with you.
@christhewritingjester3164
@christhewritingjester3164 10 ай бұрын
It's gotten to the point to where I expect nothing less than this kind of response from those who hold his position.
@kevinmiller6443
@kevinmiller6443 9 ай бұрын
"You can tell a tree by it's fruit..." The debate was a perfect example of casting pearls to swine.
@CrimeDoesNotPay
@CrimeDoesNotPay Ай бұрын
Farina: “I will expose Tour for the liar he is, and a fraud” Also Farina: “I cannot write chemistry on the chalkboard”
@OtDawn
@OtDawn 10 ай бұрын
Look at the arrogance on display by Farina.
@ordinaryindividual6246
@ordinaryindividual6246 4 ай бұрын
Did you even watch the debate?
@kyleturner1871
@kyleturner1871 9 ай бұрын
First time I’ve had dr tours channel pop up on my feed, and first time reading all you deluded minions thinking he won. Go watch an analysis on the debate, everything tour asked Dave was given in evidence. He insulted him because tour slates all chemists who actually know what they’re doing in the origin of life research and has been talking down on daves channel for years, yet he expects them to be friends? Deluded….
@ExoticNibbles2
@ExoticNibbles2 9 ай бұрын
They wont check any sources because theyre a bunch of brainless zombies who blindly follow an invisible man in the sky
@AV4Life
@AV4Life Ай бұрын
His response was valid. Tour slanders researchers and lies about their papers. Tour is a science denier. Let’s not forget this please.
@sierrajane7073
@sierrajane7073 9 ай бұрын
Hahaha I love Professor Dave!❤ This whole debate was beautiful and Dr. Tour's implosion afterwards has been beautiful to watch! He was even castrated by the creationist publications he works for. If you think he won this debate you don't understand the science.
@joeharm8141
@joeharm8141 Ай бұрын
Dirty Dave lost … are U sure U watched the same debate???
@bass-dc9175
@bass-dc9175 9 ай бұрын
Tour hid his insults while Dave was open about his. Dave attacked the actions of Tour, in particular the misinformation on the current state of origin of life research. Meanwhile Tour sneakily attacks Farinas character by pointing to his music career (which he previously used clips from to mock Farina) and his surprise as to Dave still having a wife. Wasn't this supposed to be about the scientific career of the others? The closest thing to science Tour praises is him being able to make an educational website, specifying the website in particular. And that is the problem. Tour did that FIRST. Then Dave fired back. Similar to Daves first Video on Tour where he praises Tours work and stays respectful. Quotes: "He (James Tour) is not a con-man like others I debunk. (...) He is a respected chemist." "Some of his talking points (on the topic of the Origin of Life) are reasonable, while most are not." "Most do not understand what you do either, that does not mean it is not real. Go produce your impressive molecules." Daves tone only changed as Tour responded to him, insulting him every step of the way, flashing dunning krueger charts at Dave, misrepresenting what Dave said and what the papers he cited say. Dave corrected Tour. Tour then responded with rude dishonesty. Dave responded to rudeness with another correction. Then Tour responded by trying to intimidate researchers into not going on Daves channel, attacking the researchers which allready went with character assassination aluding to funding for research which he also received to a similar degree. Meaning: > Dave corrected tour with a respectfull tone. > Tour responded with rudeness. > Dave corrected Tour again. > Tour responded with rudeness and intimidation. Including a Character Assassination using clips from Daves music videos to dishonestly paint him as a madman. > Dave then corrected Tour again, this time responding to his rudeness in kind. Now Tour clutches his pearls when Dave responds to his over abundant rudeness in kind. That is all this is. And you guys are falling for it.
@caveman1334
@caveman1334 10 ай бұрын
Scientific consensus 😂😂😂😂 Got to love Dr Tour
@SangNguyen-ql3qm
@SangNguyen-ql3qm 9 ай бұрын
Scientists raise facts, influencers raise attention
@TheTwistedKris
@TheTwistedKris 7 ай бұрын
Does nobody here know what a backhanded compliment is? Besides keep in mind this is after of months of discourse and a "debate" full of a grown man having a tantrum.
@AdamLeis
@AdamLeis 10 ай бұрын
I was very disappointed to see this "debate." While I love they both talked past and over each other many times. David's gracelessness in this moment really cemented how weak his skills as civil discourse are. How many times did ad hominen fallacies come up? Really brutal. I don't think I even finished it after the half way point.
@elsawithginathedreamdragon3952
@elsawithginathedreamdragon3952 9 ай бұрын
Ad hominem Fallacies? Did you just combine 2 words together? You didn’t even spell it right. Also, saying Tour lies is not an ad hominem, because he gave proof during the debate of all the lies and misinformation Tour has said about Origin of Life research and it’s researchers. The slides had quotes taken from what Tour said, so it’s impossible to say that Tour had misspoken.
@danielcarranza1957
@danielcarranza1957 10 ай бұрын
❤ nothing but love for dr. Tour!
@Michael-vz6uk
@Michael-vz6uk 9 ай бұрын
Never smack down an olive branch. It’s not a good look.
@madmax2976
@madmax2976 6 ай бұрын
I'm not even a believer and I think Farina was horrible in this debate. His was *not* a class act by any means, more the opposite.
@JimKalpa-qd9zr
@JimKalpa-qd9zr 10 ай бұрын
At the end of his life a reporter asked Albert Einstien what was the totality of what he had learned. He turned and replied..."I have learned that I know nothing". Dave should heed that advice.
@waldoman7
@waldoman7 9 ай бұрын
He became as wise as socrates!
@maskingtables
@maskingtables 9 ай бұрын
That's fake. You just made that up. Denying established knowledge does not make you humble, it makes you an idiots.
@joeharm8141
@joeharm8141 Ай бұрын
Einstein is a gross individual
@marcelkuizenga
@marcelkuizenga 9 ай бұрын
Tour acts like a toddler. Farina just points that out. Believers can't handle that.
@daisysuperdog2814
@daisysuperdog2814 6 ай бұрын
Dave Farina is not just a horrible person but also seems oblivious of what Dr. Tour was saying throughout this debate. Dr. Tour should not interact with him again.
@bobblum5973
@bobblum5973 7 ай бұрын
"Audience shocked"? It sounded more like "Ow, feel the burn from Dave!". Dave answered the question almost as a rebuttal to Tours', while Tours more or less said "I admire all these things Dave has accomplished in spite of being stupid _about this subject._ ".
@dokidokibibleclub
@dokidokibibleclub 10 ай бұрын
Script? Isn't this the guy who replies to dozens of comments: "keep lying for Jesus, kid"
@louiel8569
@louiel8569 10 ай бұрын
Good job Dr.
@ordinaryindividual6246
@ordinaryindividual6246 4 ай бұрын
Tell me one thing he did correctly of proved anything in that debate.
@louiel8569
@louiel8569 4 ай бұрын
@@ordinaryindividual6246 He was nice.
@ordinaryindividual6246
@ordinaryindividual6246 4 ай бұрын
@@louiel8569 No, He was simply trying to appeal to his audience like you. He’s a charlatan. He has tried to disprove origin of life research multiple times now and has never succeeded because he doesn’t know anything about the field, yet he still chooses to debate about it…
@williampennjr.4448
@williampennjr.4448 9 ай бұрын
this is the same reason Dukakis lost to Bush. They were given an opportunity to complement each other. Bush did but Dukakis only continued to throw insults.
@williamstdog9
@williamstdog9 7 ай бұрын
Dave is the most arrogant and smug fake scientist I’ve ever witnessed 👎 His rudeness and condescending tone is off the charts
@geobla6600
@geobla6600 10 ай бұрын
Do they make a more arrogant and self deluded narcissist then the " Non Professor Dave" ?
@zzzzz77771
@zzzzz77771 9 ай бұрын
I think they could actually use him as a quintessential example of a hubristic narcissist in college psychology classes. He isn't a dumb guy, but he's without doubt the biggest fool on YT.
@ordinaryindividual6246
@ordinaryindividual6246 4 ай бұрын
He not only is not narcissistic but also destroyed James in this debate in every sense of the word
@henrysamuel8311
@henrysamuel8311 10 ай бұрын
What is wrong with Dave ?
@TheOneAndOnlyJinglebi
@TheOneAndOnlyJinglebi 2 ай бұрын
Btw he did the same to me, I just asked him respectfully for something and he went completely ballistic and started insulting me and the other guy to the point I thought I am talking to a 12 year old
@johnnybickle4116
@johnnybickle4116 9 ай бұрын
Tour has zero expertise in the fields of biogenesis, biology, evolution. That is the most important thing to keep in mind when he speaks on them.
@2009adtommy
@2009adtommy 10 ай бұрын
A voice crying in the wilderness. Dr. Tour is amazing.
@matthewh2503
@matthewh2503 9 ай бұрын
Good on Dave for absolutely annihilating this creationist pseudo scientist
@edwinamendelssohn5129
@edwinamendelssohn5129 9 ай бұрын
For being uncivil and childish
@kevinmiller6443
@kevinmiller6443 9 ай бұрын
To be fair, it is a 9th grader worldview. It's no coincidence that they all act that way.
@galgadsmith
@galgadsmith 10 ай бұрын
Cmon people, Dave is classic grifter nothing else, he create drama in order to monetise it.
@More-Space-In-Ear
@More-Space-In-Ear 9 ай бұрын
Why not shout a bit more, your totally wrong, Dave proved it.
@calvinwithun6512
@calvinwithun6512 8 ай бұрын
I mean, I admire the courage of the people who blatantly dismiss reality as well. Its a brave thing to do, especially when you work in scientific fields. Tour is one of the bravest scientists I know about, in that regard.
@sliglusamelius8578
@sliglusamelius8578 10 ай бұрын
Farina is a horse’s back side.
@lizzard13666
@lizzard13666 10 ай бұрын
Love your work Dr Tour. Genuinely appreciate the love and respect you showed even for your debate opponent!
@maskingtables
@maskingtables 9 ай бұрын
He was insulting Dave. God you people are so easy to manipulate with politican talk you don't even realize what your religious leader is saying.
@lizzard13666
@lizzard13666 9 ай бұрын
@@maskingtables Please repent. Give up your pride. No matter what you've done, God loves us even while we're sinners. God is offering ALL of us a place in His eternal family. We love you, and all we want is for you to be successful, happy.
@maskingtables
@maskingtables 9 ай бұрын
@lizzard13666 Bro I'm a Christian. It doesn't mean I have to believe clowns like James Tour. He is a false prophet.
@tressabowles5817
@tressabowles5817 9 ай бұрын
Dave just showed her shallow he is..... He just received a genuine admiration from a very profoundly intelligent man...... You're not a man
@elsawithginathedreamdragon3952
@elsawithginathedreamdragon3952 9 ай бұрын
It really feels like Tour’s admiration is shallow. Since Tour used his “admiration” for Dave’s past music experience to character assassinate Dave on KZfaq.
@katja6332
@katja6332 9 ай бұрын
One is an entitled, hostile narcissist and the other not. cheers to the old guy for having basic social behavior skills.
@dansmith7009
@dansmith7009 9 ай бұрын
Well you have to be charming on some level to be a successful fraud.
@askbrettmanning
@askbrettmanning 10 ай бұрын
One day, Dave will have to face God. On that day, he won't be smug. He will tremble! Hopefully, he figures it out before that day. It's going to be horrific for him!
@bass-dc9175
@bass-dc9175 9 ай бұрын
Ah there is no hate like christian love. Foaming at the mouth hoping that someone suffers the worst form of torture imaginable because he disagrees with you. Jesus would be ashamed of you.
@jangohemmes352
@jangohemmes352 9 ай бұрын
One day my fantasy made-up threats will get you! One day!
@SojuNinja
@SojuNinja 9 ай бұрын
@@bass-dc9175 Don't tell them that. Most Christians are oblivious to their own hypocrisy.
@askbrettmanning
@askbrettmanning 9 ай бұрын
@@jangohemmes352 newsflash, buddy… You and I are both passing away. And you think they're made up. But talk to doctors who have seen people with near death experiences. The ones that talked of heaven or beyond your wildest and best dreams. The ones that spoke of hell well worse than your nightmares. You can mark all you want. But we have it evidence for our faith. It's not a blind one.
@askbrettmanning
@askbrettmanning 9 ай бұрын
@@bass-dc9175 (just seen this an realized that Siri is poor secretary 😂 .... so I'm editing) )t's not because he disagrees with me. But because he mocks God openly. And these are not threats. These are simply the words of scripture. But don't worry, perhaps Hell can be allegorical or a short term suffering. Which is what atheists want anyway. They don't want to live forever. If that interpretation is correct, then congratulations. The question isn't necessarily your interpretation of my delivery. The question is… Is it true? If it were true, would you bow your knee and worship the king of kings. I can typically predict the answer to that question.
@badelementofstyle5238
@badelementofstyle5238 9 ай бұрын
I don't care how complimentary you are if the only point is lies and propaganda...
@Anthvolution
@Anthvolution 20 күн бұрын
James Tour, the only tour you need is of a mental hospital
@snaptrap5558
@snaptrap5558 9 ай бұрын
Dave won the debate but took an L with that question
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