All these control surfaces available today need to be expandable and have a meter bridge! Touch screens and when extenders are connected look as one complete unit. The prices are crazy high so why didn't they do the things I mentioned?

Because of this video I decided to get a press owned Nucleus instead of 2 uf8s.. I was able to find one on reverb in excellent condition for only $1000 .. That sounded better that $2000 for 2 uf8s.. I use a Mac from the same era so I do feel imma run into any problems... And it will upgrade my ad da .. It was a no brainer for me... Im pairing it with a ssl six ..Thanks for making this video..😊😊😊

Best review so far with everything i want to know! Thanks

Fantastic review! I’m new to daw controllers and I bought the UC1 and it gave me a really nice feeling. So ordered 2 UF8 and it is exactly what you say. The feeling to mix music is different and you are more into it! It’s like you working with real hardware, with a real console. I bought 2 UF8 to have a better overview and I love it!

Just come across your channel, have to say you are very objective and honest about the gear you have just reviewed, I’ve now subscribed and followed, keep up the good work.

Great work! Nice review!

Excellent and very honest, heartfelt review! I purchased the Nucleus 2 in November 2019, I am am still growing into it, especially the daw control. I also bought it for that classic SSL sound-the SSL preamps, the SuperAnalogue circuitry, etc. I agree the knobs, buttons, faders, transport controls, etc., are high quality to my touch. I get the impression the Nucleus was built more to a point that to a price. I have no regrets in making the purchase when I did. Not to mention expansion possibilities via my Dante network! In fact, I'e connected the interface that was primary before Nucleus 2 as an extra set of mic pres/converters via Dante.Having said all of this, If I were buying today (and if I were not already familiar with the extraordinaryNuke 2), I would probably go with a pair of the UF8.

Great balanced review, I'm currently running Nucleus 1 & UC-1 and if I didn't run a Nucleus already I agree I'd go for x2 UF8 also (but I do use my Nucleus Pre-amps into interface BTW). I used SSL large format for many years and I'm loving the console workflow with the two combined. Also agreed that ethernet is a total faf, but once its there its there.

Thanks for an honest comparison

Thanks for the advice.

Great video.. On the UF8'S Key 1 has transport controls on the top. With two UF8'S I put the Soft key 1 on the 2nd controller with different favorite commands. You can use the black encoder knob as jog wheel as well. With the UF8 working with the 360 software it makes it the best DAW controller. I agree having two UF8'S is just wonderful. When you are mixing a single with multiple tracks two UF8'S are great to have. With that being said, in Cubase and I assume some other DAW's on the mixer page you can show the visibility of just drums, vocals, or just group faders. I also hate working with a mouse. You do work differently with a controller in a better way. The mouse feels like your working with software while a controller makes you feel like your working in a studio. On a different topic I sold my XRack after buying the SSL UC1 controller along with the SSL channel strip and 2 bus compressor plug ins. They got the fast transient attack with the software that all other SSL emulations failed to copy. It's faster working the the UC1 and I get the feeling of working with hardware with this controller

Thank you for your review

Thanks for this video , nice review

Ayeee you guys did this first!

In regards to an all in one... I really love how they've implemented the ease of being able to use the 2 channels in stereo or dual mono for recording along with insert points that can be used as such or with the push of a button be armed to print a stereo mix through an outboard chain on those inserts. You can get real creative with some minimalistic chains that are stereo/dual mono capable and are both nice to have at the recording stage as well as the print stage. Throw a flock audio patchbay in there and that's a pretty flexible system for it's size. I had a Nucleus v1 and loved it. I got rid of it, but to this day I would still consider buying a v2 on the second hand market.

Great video 👍

Thank you for your review. I really want the nucleus but I feel its a bit dated for the price. It looks amazing to me as well. More of a classic look

Hi, very interesting review. I'm a Nucleus 2 user since a year, basically I bought it 6 months before the UF8 was released. I took advantage of a crazy SSL's offer back in summer 2020, which included a free 500 series Bus Compressor with the purchase of the Nucleus 2. For me was a no brainer purchase, considering that I was desperately looking for a great DAW controller and I couldn't miss that offer. Honestly when SSL announced the UF8 I was a bit upset but then once I figured out the difference between the two, I did not regret about the Nucleus at all. Instead, I think I made the best deal ever considering that the Nucleus is now discontinued. Regarding the difference between the two, I would add that when used in HUI mode, the Nucleus can't display the volume value on the scribble strip while the UF8 does. Also, the UF8 supports the velocity on the rotary pots in HUI mode, while for the Nucleus this is available only in MCU mode. That's because a limitation due the ipMIDI with HUI protocol, and for me was quite frustrating at the beginning but on the other hand the transport control and the jog wheel on the Nucleus are a big winner, together with the overall feeling and build quality of the surface (faders, buttons and pots). The bonus feature on the UF8 is the "Focus" mode on the Channel Encoder which could be useful in some cases and for my workflow would be helpful. But what seems that the UF8 can't do is to assign menu switches to the soft keys, am I wrong? On the Nucleus you can program up to 144 functions in total just using the two User modes (without considering the assigned soft keys already labeled), while the UF8 seems that can handle only 40 commands and that's a huge difference for me because this really fill the gap of HUI protocol.

Excellent review, sir. Nucleus looks better by the way ✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿🔥🔥🔥

Thanks dude. I’ll keep my 9 years old Nucleus. Nice review ^^

Great Breakdown!..I’m no fan of a mouse or Keyboard..lol…

I control all my plugins with the faders of my UF8. Somehow that really helps me on focussing on the sound. I find the sweetspot of parameters much faster. With the mouse I don't find the sweetspot at all🤣

That was great, ( would I swap my Nucleus for the SSL UF ) Pause then said NO! Lol, I wouldn't either. It looks professional like a real mixing board. Great video thanks 👍

great video im considering purchasing the Nucleus 2 in a few weeks as my controller for ableton live. Ive done some reseach n its not much information out there on it do you have ny idea why ssl discontiued the porduct?

I believe the nucleus will last a lot longer. It’s solid!!

@Audio Do you feel at to day prices for a Nucleus it's worth it? I see them on reverb about $1000 and up . I do understand it's older technology but if you add up the cost for example 3 SSL modules they cost way more. Granted today's control surfaces have more updated and modern technology but they come at a high price and can take up a lot of space since you have to buy multiple units if you want more faders and control. And let's not talk about controllers made by Avid $$$$ LOL. I don't mind the network port because, I also have the Presonus Studio Live which you also have to create a network. My only concern about the Nucleus is that it can be a bear to connect as you say from the reviews I read, plus like you said will it be compatible in the future? And repair cost! I use to use the Mackie Control Pro and the faders were always dying on me. I live here in NY and there are not many places that can repair them. Your looking at an easy $400-500 bucks including parts and labor. To me the Nucleus does have some nice features even by todays standards. I was going to buy one when they first came out but I couldn't justify the price tag.

Quick question can you bank over with the Nucleus or stuck with just 16 inputs?

great, great review, but the camera autofocus really makes me nauseous

Behringer x touch has the pan knobs above the channel screens so we can see them + the faders are touch sensitive - you see immediately what you have touched on the screen + there are knobs like play/stop/record = for only 400$

How much do you depend on the Nucleus software? Or is it set and forget? Sadly Nucleus 2 was discontinued which makes me think software will stop being developed in the very near future.

Does your Nucleus run with Pro Tools 2021.6 without issues ?

Now we only need to wait for the - to be released - TPC1 (TransPortControl) to make the SSL controller system complete.

i wonder if Nucleus 1 would work with Windows 11

Please review the uc1

Brother, it struck me in honesty, you were trying hard to be complimentary about UF8. I’m sure you will disagree with me but I got a distinct vibe that you were searching for positives for what is £995 in an industry that is such a struggle for so many of us in 2020/21. I like your style though 😊👍

Why don’t you use the mic pre’s on the nucleus?

Hey everyone, just wondering peoples thoughts, currently running Logic Pro X on a Mac Mini M1 16Gig. Looking to get a controller and narrowed it down to two systems, 1st, Avid S1 with Avid Dock, 2nd, SSL UF8 with UC 1. I know they are slightly different systems and will have a different work flow, really interested if people have any experience with the Avid hardware running with Logic, also peoples experience with the SSL setup, if you’ve no experience with ether setups still very interested in you thoughts, many thanks 🙏

How do the faders compare?

console one complete its kilin it for 980 Euros x touch 400 EUROS its kilin it its very very expensive for what it is its a empty base whit nothing to give no sound card. no pre amps no transport and the button placements will make you search more to actions and make you look more to the screens thats all no joke bro i would advice people to learn first what are the limitations and needs on their daws in terms of mapping

Please SSL make a UF16 👌🏼

Not making the UF8 side controls detachable or selling a version without was a massive oversight. Think nintendo switch.

Nucleus wins!!!

I just returned two new UF8s. THey fell far below what I expected from them. Even after watching tons of video.

Why on earth wouldn't they include a transport control?

Camera focus needs to be worked upon.

I want to like the UF8, but the Faderport 16 or 8 is just better in every way. Plus it's a lot cheaper. I do lust after the UC1 tho 🤤

nucleus already dead after yosemite!!on so speaking of incompability BE HONEST OR UP 2 DATE if you get free stuff to review!!

Looks like the office of a professional calculator mathematician .