Steve, luv ya man,but PLEASE, *PLEASE* stop continuously interrupting people, ESPECIALLY someone who talks a lot like Fremer. That absolutely constant interrupting and talking over your guests, I'm sorry I promise I don't mean to be mean, but it makes watching this VERY difficult. If you can please just stop doing that and let your guests talk, you will be Golden! 😊 Ask your family if they watch your videos, see if they agree. But, if you insist on doing that, I don't know if i can sit through a whole hour of constant interrupting. Please, just let the person finish, then talk, okay mate. Just try'n to help here Bro... ***EDIT And, I do have to add, honestly, more towards the end when you seemed to be a little calmer, it did flow a lot better and was more enjoyable. So, please keep up the good work with what you are doing. And just, like the rest of us, keep trying to refine yourself and get better and better!
@jimk2000 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you 💯 percent
@latheofheaven Жыл бұрын
@@jimk2000 Wow, thanks mate! I'm honestly not trying to be mean, really 😊 It's just, 'Steve... The Decaffeinated... the Decaffeinated Steve...' 😁
@NickP333 Жыл бұрын
Hey, Steve. Cool chat with you and Michael. It’s always a pleasure to listen to record talk. I also recently found a copy of, “Dream with Dean” at the Salvation Army for $1.00, and it’s in excellent condition. Thanks again, Michael and Steve. 🔊😊🎶
@cradio52 Жыл бұрын
Wow, I’d REALLY love to see Mr. Fremer’s record store interview series… hopefully he can get the time to edit and post those soon! Such a great idea and I’d be fascinated to hear all these record store owners from various parts of the country speaking on how their business started, how things have evolved, and how they’re doing in the current market.
@kyles7087 Жыл бұрын
Enjoying my Sunday afternoon watching this after your interview with Michael45, and it’s been such an enjoyable day, thanks!!
@stevewestman7774 Жыл бұрын
Thanks much appreciated. Glad you enjoyed it.
@LifelongMusicJunkie Жыл бұрын
Always good to have Michael Fremer on and there is always good repartee between you guys.
@stevewestman7774 Жыл бұрын
Yes thank you. I quite enjoying our back and forth.
@analoguecity3454 Жыл бұрын
I know youll probably get a lot of hateful comments on this one! Digital people tend to torture my buddy Michael fremer, but we got yer back Mike! 😊
@Universityofvinyl Жыл бұрын
Always fun to hear from Mr. Fremer. Looking forward to the Iron Mtn video. 👍🏻
@jasonarsenault3791 Жыл бұрын
Great work Steve. Super natural convo.
@stevewestman7774 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jason. I really enjoy my chats with Michael.
@myronhelton4441 Жыл бұрын
@@stevewestman7774 People think that their unopened records are going to be worth more. LOL! The coming dep[ression will make records worthless
@stevewestman7774 Жыл бұрын
Interesting.
@DrSinisster Жыл бұрын
Dorothy Ashby Hip-Harp is Fantastic. Love her stuff.
@mazzysmusic Жыл бұрын
Fun chat. Michael is almost always entertaining !!!
@mccarthyd6603 Жыл бұрын
Michael..."Who is buying Van Halen... no one is buying Van Halen?" Ummm..not everyone is buying and interested in the 13th latest release of Miles Davis and John Coltrane and the 47 other "fun" Jazz releases coming out each week...Michael is definitely an aquired taste for me.... Thanks for the discussion though guys👍
@cradio52 Жыл бұрын
I kind of agree with Fremer, but I mean, he also said “maybe I’m wrong, I guess we’ll see”
@seansrecords Жыл бұрын
van halen originals sound great and cost peanuts ... jazz is old and expensive so reissues are welcome ... thats all he means , its no diss to the music itself no ones grail is an orginal VH1 ... ?
@sidesup8286 Жыл бұрын
In the fairly early 1980s we were given the most wonderful thing. Something cleaner sounding than half speed mastered lps, that never wear out or mistrack on either inner grooves or any part of the recording. Something that has no noise, no ticks and pops or warp bumps; only the music. Even if mishandled to the point that there are scratches. Clearer sound than most peoples phono cartridges are capable of. More perfect pressings than vinyl pressing usually are. Small enough where a thousand of them can fit in a space small enough not to overwhelm the room(s). What do people want? They gave us a dream. Of course with the early cd players, we had no idea of the amazing sound on the discs. The more astute heard hardness and brittleness in the highs. Edgy not very natural sound. Thin and harsh at times. But...in retrospect, it was the players for the most part. The better cd players have none of those bad qualities. Not even a hint of them. So is buying vinyl masochistic? At least partly it is. I like the bigger cover and lyrics big enough on the inner sleeve that you can read them. I still collect vinyl too, and wouldn't give up either cds or lps. But cds are like this great gift bestowed upon us. that owners of top flight digital equipment now appreciate, while others ignore it and continue to think of it as inferior, because of the early failings of its playback gear. Were the earliest turntables that great?
@robbiedetroitstigermanviny88837 ай бұрын
Fremer is the real deal!
@manganzon81 Жыл бұрын
Well it’s official… I’m beginning to SERIOUSLY question Fremers record collection now based on the fact he never knew who Dorothy Ashby was until this new box set came out! Seems like Fremer just has records that are mainstream and the most accessible. He hasn’t gone deep at all in discovering obscure great music! Just the same old people over and over!
@brentcunliffe745 Жыл бұрын
MF gets a fair amount of criticism but life’s too short to get worked up over a record and one persons opinion. Enjoy the banter and remember MF is likely a whole lot more knowledgeable about vinyl than most of us .sure, he’s annoying at times but aren’t we all ? Apart from the constant interruptions this is a pretty enjoyable vid.
@patmeadows4759 Жыл бұрын
Steve. Great video as usual. Sir Fremer is a wealth of info/history. On a note: Tea for the Tillerman. If you are a fan of the original - do yourselves a favour - go out a purchase a copy of Teal for the Tillerman 2. It is fantastic. Recorded in 2020 in same LP playlist and lineup and with most of the original musicians but with all new arrangements. Fantastic. Available vinyl & CD plus streaming. Vinyl and CD purchase now have great price points.
@stevewestman7774 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the compliment. Thank you Pat. Happy Fathers Day to you.
@krwd Жыл бұрын
Michael, i can't believe you went to Jerry's its sad you did not meet Jerry he was a great guy he passed away a few years ago. over the years i purchased a lot of stuff from him, his prices are good.
@roberttaylor2035 Жыл бұрын
This is a torturous discussion with all the cross talking and thought interruptions.Very hard to follow the thread of conversation. I'm taped out at 33 mins.!
@dcrook232323 Жыл бұрын
"....hard to follow..."? Odd. There are plenty of times w/ a 3+ grp on any hosted YT pgm without a moderator of convoluted "Robert Altman dialog" (look it up 😉) but I definitely disagree. I listened to half the vid. on my office system and the other 30 or so mins in my HT room. No audio issues with my near 60 yr old ears. No dis.👍
@gonzaljevic Жыл бұрын
I agree. This guy's style of interviewing is not my cup of tea. He is knowledgeable, good voice, and does great in some parts of the interview but then he starts cutting and interjecting too much. He would be a great interviewer if he controlled himself when interviewing. And Michael Fremer? Always with his trademark humor and anecdotes. I like him.
@Wpjs2112 Жыл бұрын
That’s Tim Horton interrupting, not Steve
@recordmanjohn Жыл бұрын
I love listening to Mikey. I find myself really disliking Steve. Neither of those things are new
@stevewestman7774 Жыл бұрын
I don’t appreciate the diss on my own channel. Dislike me? really dude? This was not an interview but a chat with my a good friend of mine.
@xentakis Жыл бұрын
The name of the piano player whose record Fremer is putting out is Caelan Cardello, in case anyone was looking for it.
@trackingangle929 Жыл бұрын
It’s not out yet!
@villane7427 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, yes I was trying to guess the spelling of the name by googling but failed :)
@johntorma1224 Жыл бұрын
Jack Osborne took Ozzie to Iron Mountain on his travel show for his birthday to show and play some Black Sabbath stuff. Very cool episode if you catch it sometime. It's an amazing place.
@alanabentrod3963 Жыл бұрын
Always enjoyable hearing Fremer
@DC-xx4kv Жыл бұрын
Problem is I can’t hear Fremer. That guy won’t shut up.
@alanabentrod3963 Жыл бұрын
@@DC-xx4kv I disagree, it's two friends talking.
@DC-xx4kv Жыл бұрын
@@alanabentrod3963 that’s a biased and a response in denial. Too bad so many comments are similar to mine. Also it doesn’t matter the nature of the relationship. It’s rude and unhealthy. Talk to a qualified therapist and you’ll hear that same feedback. I feel sorry for those who can’t learn and grow. Not to mention it’s unpleasant and hard to hear as a viewer or witness.
@mccarthyd6603 Жыл бұрын
I thought both were talking over each other at the same time....I laughed out loud a couple of times because while one person was talking the other was just waiting to chime in and was not even listening to the other....both were doing to each other 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@alanabentrod3963 Жыл бұрын
@@mccarthyd6603 Hence my point it was two friends having a conversation not a interview.
@lawrence5368 Жыл бұрын
What we really need is a AAA Beatles stereo box set. That digital box set they sold in 2012 wasn't very good at all.
@casperdowlen625 Жыл бұрын
Ever heard of MFSL? They did a box set TWICE.
@MrShocktime Жыл бұрын
Where does Fremer get his information on Springsteen? He doesn’t sell out shows anymore? His entire current world tour is sold out lol
@Grooverski Жыл бұрын
I like when new analogue audiophile vinyl ‘labels’ reveal their digital sources.
@gratefuldawgs2738 Жыл бұрын
Hey Steve And Michael Good Stuff Yall
@stevewestman7774 Жыл бұрын
Always fun doing a show with Michael.
@robbiedetroitstigermanviny8883 Жыл бұрын
Fremer is God
@scottwheeler2679 Жыл бұрын
Who is buying the Bruce Springsteen Mofi? I am. I love Springsteen and I want the best version of his recordings I can get.
@mazzysmusic Жыл бұрын
The Plangent Box is the best. It will be interesting if MoFi can best them.
@scottwheeler2679 Жыл бұрын
@@mazzysmusic I am a staunch supporter of the Plangent system. One of my issues with the AAA mind set is that it prevents the implementation of the Plangent system and other DSPs that can make the transfers and masterings better. Mofi does have a high bar here.
@krwd Жыл бұрын
that's cool that you went to Iron Mountain it's about 45 miles from me, it's a highly secure location
@SafeAndSoundTXAudioExcursion Жыл бұрын
Having been on several of Steve’s round tables with others I know this is a free flowing discussion among his invited guest(s). The fact that this one only has one guest doesn’t make it an interview. In my mind, this is an interactive dialogue which we are allowed to “eavesdrop” on between two people taking about topics of our interest. The idea of a specific time allocation isn’t something I’ve even considered as relevant given it isn’t an interview inquiry but a free exchange of ideas. Just my two cents.
@stevewestman7774 Жыл бұрын
Thanks David. It was a fun chat. Thanks for watching.
@gonzaljevic Жыл бұрын
I guess even though I can tell that Steve is very knowledgeable, it's just my and many other's cup of tea. I'll give this guy a try a couple of more times though.
@Fontsman-14 Жыл бұрын
Too much talking across each other. Let your guests talk.
@DC-xx4kv Жыл бұрын
@@bradleykayyeah he’s narcissistic. That’s what those personalities do. I added a similar comment and not the first time and he keeps doing it. That’s also narcissistic. What a waste of Fremer.
@Glorygood56 Жыл бұрын
Steve has a very interesting channel and much to share but he constantly talked across Michael 45 also. Hey, these are people who love records and equipment, and are sharing their love for the hobby.
@jasonarsenault3791 Жыл бұрын
@@DC-xx4kvdude. Why would you insult a guy putting out free content!? What the hell. If you’re not a fan of his style, move on. Keep this stuff positive and if you have criticism, keep it constructive and respectful.
@DC-xx4kv Жыл бұрын
@@jasonarsenault3791 what, are you his lover? I’ve told him this more than once. Obviously he’s nit listening! I was here for Fremer. Which was his click bait. If you or he, can’t stand the heat you move on. Don’t tell people what to do or think. His behavior is boorish. That means is not appropriate and disrespectful. I’ve been around. It’s time to grow up. And grow. Try it. That’s pretty f’ing constructive. If you actually listen.
@jasonarsenault3791 Жыл бұрын
@@DC-xx4kv hahaha
@donbridgewater3218 Жыл бұрын
LOL Steve, I bought my Beatles Mono box at Costco and I remember they had a huge pallet of them. Must have been a couple hundred. I wish I’d bought more than one, haha.
@xentakis Жыл бұрын
I have a long list of records to get if I ever get access to time machine 😂
@fredericmorris2931 Жыл бұрын
Most enjoyable, thanks! Actually you can stream all or most of the Dorothy Ashby albums. MJQ is a good analogy.
@stevewestman7774 Жыл бұрын
I do appreciate it. Thanks Frederic. I had a lot fun.
@trackingangle929 Жыл бұрын
Steve asked me to comment so here goes: I’m not surprised some didn’t enjoy this “chat” and that’s because Zoom calls are not good venues for “chats”. When you “chat” among friends there are always interruptions. It’s expected but Zoom interactions especially with two people need structure. I thought this was going to be a Q&A interview but it wasn’t. Steve didn’t prepare questions or have an agenda beyond a nebulous opening question for which I really didn’t have an answer. From there I winged it because dead air is deadly. The conversation couldn’t “veer off course because there was no course to veer off of. About half way through I had a feeling some viewers would be unhappy but I figured I’d take the hit which is why I quipped about talking too much…but I felt obliged be keep going… I think Steve will get fewer negative comments with better structured interviews and fewer “chats”!!!!
@mccarthyd6603 Жыл бұрын
Wow....talk about throwing someone under the bus? You were the reason many(including myself) had a negative opinion about your "chat". Me....I knew what to expect when your on one of these forums.....plenty of constant interrupting ( just watch the video again and you will see and hear yourself at work...repeatedly) Head scratching opinions ( Vinyl is not expensive, Box Sets are not expensive...quit complaining. Many other opinions but I don't have the time to mention again)) Plenty of disinformation (Nobody is interested or buying Van Halen these days?) Plenty of redundant Jazz talk (This time it is labeled "Fun" Jazz....which to most of us is still Jazz....😴😴😴😴) I ultimately got exactly what I expected from this 75 minute "chat".... some entertaining moments and some solid opinions from you both....some frustrating, irritating moments of both of you talking non stop and interrupting each other....but overall I enjoyed it for the most part. I've seen you in the past on these interviews in this type of forum and I will try to watch again in the future when they show up in my KZfaq feed. You were no different this time and will be no different in the future whoever the Host is....for better or worse... Cheers 👍
@Dbriskit Жыл бұрын
Ooh boy - hanging out for a peak inside Iron Mountain!!! 😮😮
@dcrook232323 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Who doesn't ❤MF. May edit this initial comment but WTF are you hearing about a VMP digitized anthology set, versus their original March-ish announcement of their all AAA box set?? I bought early from VMP on my club membership. Please expand on your comment. Thanks much.
@stevewestman7774 Жыл бұрын
I just read somewhere that only the first 2000 are all AAA. It could be just rumour. I don’t know. Makes no sense for them not to have them all cut AAA.
@dcrook232323 Жыл бұрын
@stevewestman7774 Totally agree. I WILL add that VMP in their initial email + their ongoing adverts are describing the anthology bix set as "...Miles electric period..." or something to the effect. Maybe that's a genesis of any rumor.
@Wreckords-Marcel Жыл бұрын
Cool chat!
@automatedelectronics6062 Жыл бұрын
Love it! On "The Cars" album. I have the new Rhino 'audiophile' release and found it a bit muffled and overly compressed. I am not a fan of Optimal Media record pressings because they tend to have an audible rumble between tracks. Thankfully, the tracks are almost segued together so the rumble can only be heard, if at all, for a split second. When I really notice the rumble is after I have digitized the album and am splitting the tracks. That rumble is visible on a graph and I see that same rumble on other records pressed by Optimal. I have other versions, but a later version I like better is another Rhino re-issue, R1-135, on black vinyl. Listening to "My Best Friends Girl", the sound is brighter to me, like the claps being like I am there and the ambience is better. Plus, the vinyl is much cleaner sounding with the only annoying surface noise is the lead-in groove. Of the original release, as Elektra used multiple pressing plants, to me, the copies marked CSM(Columbia Santa Maria) sound the best. Iron Mountain. I thought that facility belonged to Sony. Jack and Ozzy Osbourne's travel show, they went to Iron Mountain and Ozzy got to listen to some of his original Columbia master tapes. So, what about the fires at Universal Hollywood which was said to have destroyed all the masters? Dave Mason stated that his masters for his "Alone Together" album were destroyed, so he didn't have them to use for a 50th Anniversary special edition.
@trackingangle929 Жыл бұрын
No compression was applied in the mastering. How Optimal adds rumble is something I don’t understand. I don’t hear it and my speaker are flat to 20Hz. From online comments I’d say your experience with this reissue is an outlier…
@trackingangle929 Жыл бұрын
Sony also stores tapes at Iron Mountain. The CIA is there too. Tapes did burn in the Universal fire. But many that were claimed to have burned did not…
@automatedelectronics6062 Жыл бұрын
@@trackingangle929 Well, even being half-deaf, I can often tell an Optimal pressing from hearing the rumble between tracks. I have confirmed it looking at a graph of the recording. And I tried several different copies with the same results. I would add a snap shot but I don't think you can on KZfaq. Sometimes, when a record is pressed simultaneously at multiple pressing plants, there is a variation in sound. One example is the Beatles stereo album boxes. It was pressed at both Optimal and Rainbo Records. As you know they were made from the same Abbey Road master discs. In listening and digitizing both, I noticed the Optimal rumble on their versions, which was absent from the Rainbo pressings. Also, I found the vinyl to be a bit quieter on the Rainbo pressings than the Optimal's. I think that we use a better quality of vinyl in the U.S. Most E.U. pressed records seem to me to have more surface noise. An exception is Pallas of Germany and their associate Record Industry. Even in the U.S. our pressing companies don't always get it right. QRP, in particular, seems to have a problem with off-center pressings. Both they and Optimal both pressed the Beatles' anniversary "White Album". I went through 3 copies of the albums pressed by QRP. The record with Sides 3 & 4 had off-center and edge-warp issues. Sides 1 & 2 were perfect. A local record store had 27 copies returned, so they pulled the remaining copies from the bins. The playing surfaces on the QRP pressings were impressable quiet. So, I ended up returning my copies and buying the Optimal-pressed 4LP boxed set. Although there was more vinyl surface noise and Optimal rumble on Sides 3 & 4 , it didn't have the wow effect of the QRP pressings. Yep, the record stores hated me because I would often return the new albums I bought until I got a suitable copy for myself. Stores like Tower Records didn't like it, but they just shrink wrapped my returns and put them back in the bins with the new records. I can't imagine that only Tower Records did this.
@cskdfinn9609 Жыл бұрын
After twenty minutes into the conversation, I found the interruptions highly irritating. I'm a big fan of Steve's interviews, so it's important to note that my irritation wasn't in any way a criticism of Steve. The issue here was the excessive interjections during the one-on-one session.
@stevewestman7774 Жыл бұрын
It’s all about flow etc. I like do an hour roundtable and keep things on track. Thanks for watching.
@tdow5677 Жыл бұрын
I personally do not care for Femmer or Michael 45, maybe it's a Mike thing. I will be skipping both of the Mike videos, but look forward to your future videos.
@TheInGroove Жыл бұрын
What about the 3rd Mike?
@NickP333 Жыл бұрын
@@TheInGroove Hahaha 🤣 Never leave out Espo! 👍🔊😊🎶
@tdow5677 Жыл бұрын
@TheInGroove Mike you are awesome! So it is not a Mike thing, lol.
@TheInGroove Жыл бұрын
@@tdow5677 😀
@tdow5677 Жыл бұрын
@TheInGroove Mike, you are a class act in the world of us music lovers. You are transparent, and I agree with your opinions 99.9% of the time. The other Mike's are snobby and come off like know it all. You are down to earth and run a damn good business. I live in Florida and have never been to AZ, but man, I would love to get to see your store one day and have a chat with you. Keep up the outstanding work and keep on keeping on brother.
@Valleyplant Жыл бұрын
My mom was offered a job at stereophile as managing editor in the 90s. So cool
@stevewestman7774 Жыл бұрын
But never took it?
@Valleyplant Жыл бұрын
@@stevewestman7774 she said the job of managing editor at a small magazine is can be very stressful. She also was not an audiophile so it didn’t sound interesting, but when I mentioned I was watching a writer for the magazine on KZfaq, she said that brought up all those memories. “If it was a horse riding magazine I might have said yes”
@JimMorrisonslizard Жыл бұрын
❤️ the Chad imitation! Lmfao
@stevewestman7774 Жыл бұрын
It was pretty spot on.
@davidpetersen7091 Жыл бұрын
Great discussion. Mr. Pete----------> aging hippie
@davidbryanbartlett4071 Жыл бұрын
SO being digital it should be a $20.00 record // Oh yeah I love that twin washer behind Steve with soap dispenser
@stevewestman7774 Жыл бұрын
Maytag’s
@jeffstockton5348 ай бұрын
I really hope Steve got his promo.
@stevewestman77748 ай бұрын
I forgot about that. No. I definitely did not get one.
@jeffstockton5348 ай бұрын
The coy act is cute, until he doesn’t come through. Bad manners.
@krwd Жыл бұрын
dangerous activity that's what did CompUSA in too much inventory cost money in taxes. Michael that is so true about the class action i did get 275 once it was a municipal lawsuit in my town other than that it was peanuts
@drumvc8060 Жыл бұрын
As ever, enjoyed the discussion - thanks for making these happen, very much appreciated.
@JeffersonDD Жыл бұрын
And man, I CANNOT Wait to see the tour of Iron Mountain, Tape Boxes are like porn to me… I know I need help😜 Interesting that the multis of Aja are out there but not the masters. I wonder if it’s conceivable we’d get a remix of this? I’m not sure who’d have the balls to tackle it but maybe a fresh interpretation? Like Giles Martin has done with the Beatles catalog? Now just need to find a vintage Neve, a Studer A827, and some geezer that remembers how to mix in Analogue. Or just give it to Giles!😜
@anton88ist Жыл бұрын
I would say Steven Wilson is the one when it comes to remix. To my knowledge Roger Nichols always recorded on two tapes, for safety reasons, so an "Original" Master Tape should exist. On the other hand, why is it so important? A copy of that Original Master Tape will not sound any worse than the original one. No one will hear a difference.
@Jackgrahamphotograph Жыл бұрын
Mean What You Say---written by Thad Jones
@mazzysmusic Жыл бұрын
Idiocracy is so now!!
@stevewestman7774 Жыл бұрын
I need to see it.
@skipgordon5382 Жыл бұрын
How to buy the jazz album Michael is producing?
@stevewestman7774 Жыл бұрын
Good question. I’m sure we will hear more soon.
@skipgordon5382 Жыл бұрын
@@stevewestman7774 shocking to me that people buy albums and they don’t own a TT or they have one and don’t listen to them. It does not add up for me. Buying albums as an investment is foolish. Just my opinion.
@krwd Жыл бұрын
perhaps younger people wanting fresh copies for themselves
@drumvc8060 Жыл бұрын
Any outlet for the jazz vinyl in Europe / UK?
@recordhead Жыл бұрын
looking forward to the classical records video. Fremer has a great Beethoven video on his "other" channel.
@stevewestman7774 Жыл бұрын
Yes me too. An area I need to dive into a lot more.
@myronhelton4441 Жыл бұрын
@@stevewestman7774 Most of my records were recorded in 1971 & before. In 1972 I thought the sound on all records were was more harsh, that the sound wasnt as good. I was suspicious that something solid state transistor digital was added, but 2 sound engineers swore I was wrong. You here all this talk that digital didnt start till the very late seventies. Michael Fremer from Stereophile confirmed I was right all along. Fremer JUST said this, so I googled it up what he said. The Doors and The Elektra Records Sound Part 1. Also below when it is talking about DISCRETE recorders, it's talking about tiny tralnsistor Integrated integrated IC transistors that dont sound as good, for example early seventies Sony stereo amps with more expensive & complicated hand wired transistors sound better than today's IC amps, but still tubes recorders sound better. Guitarists today love guitar tube amps better. Analog Planet www.analogplanet.com › content › doors-and-e... Apr 30, 2010 - When I came back to do some mixing in 1970 it was still the same, except that they changed the console to solid-state. The whole control room was all brick, and it had individual panels of acoustical tile to deaden it down. Basically it was a very live room. The console sat on a platform, which was about six or eight inches off the floor. The tape machine sat behind us; we had an old Ampex 200 three-track, which had separate record and playback electronics so that you could select separate record or playback curves. They had a thing back then called A.M.E., which was Ampex Master Equalization, and then they had N.A.B., so if you recorded A.M.E. and played it back N.A.B., it would come out brighter. It's like recording with Dolby and not decoding. We also had an Ampex 300, I believe, three-track, which I converted over to a four-track with sel-sync (the ability to perform overdubs). BB: No, the room stayed the same from the day I walked in the door, which was about 1963 to 1968. When I came back to do some mixing in 1970 it was still the same, except that they changed the console to solid-state. But anyway, back to the console. Tutti used to go to England a lot, and he purchased a solid-state console over there. For the life of me, I can't remember the name of it. We all thought it was kind of cool. It had a lot of features that the tube console didn't have. It sounded different, you know? Tubes still sounded the best. Anyway, Jac Holzman purchased one as well, and we had it customized for our needs at Elektra Studios. So, that's how the console got there. BB: I still like mono to this day, because there aren't any distractions. It's like a black and white movie, where you can create incredible dimensions, depth-wise, and hide things. That's very hard to do in stereo. That's because we don't record in stereo: We record multi-track point-source discrete audio. The difference in the mix was when we would open it up to stereo, we would have to change things, because it didn't fall in the same place. Spatially, things would fall into other places. MG: It sounds to me as if the first Doors album had the best high-frequency extension, transient snap, and overall transparency, and that with each album sonically fine as they arethose qualities seemed to diminish. Would you agree or disagree? BB: I'd agree with that to an extent, because the first album was all tube. Strange Days was done on a tube console, but with a solid-state eight-track. From then on it became all solid-state consoles and solid-state tape machines. There was also this direction that Paul wanted to take it, a more intellectual kind of a sound, not as raw as the first album. The sound started to become more scientific as it went along, a little more clinical, because studios, by and large, are hospitals, they're not places to record music. Technology is the evil person here. MG: I guess that's not fighting technology, it's kind of going around it. BB: Sound since the 1960s has gone backwards instead of forwards, in my estimation. In the recordings that I do today for motion pictures, I use tube microphones, tube microphone pre-amps, and I try to bypass the solid-state consoles as much as possible. It's more open, it's rounder, it has more depth. I can give you an example. If you take a room that has some reverberation not a chamber, just good clear liveness and you put an earphone in the middle of the room with a click going through it, so you hear the “tick, tick, tick.” Plug up a good microphone, maybe a (Neumann) U-67 or something like that, split the signal so it goes into a tube microphone pre-amp, and then the solid-state pre-amp, bring them both up on the console, and switch back and forth, and listen. With the tube, you'll hear all the reverberation in the room; the solid-state will close down. Ten times out of 10. So that's somewhat what you're hearing. Even the equalizers back then were tube; we had Pultech EQ-P1A's. MG: What's your opinion of digital multi-track recorded sound, and your opinion of digital recording, period, compared to analog? Which do you prefer? BB: I would venture to say that 95% of the music that I've recorded in the last eight years has been all digital. Digital does not basically sound better than analog, but what it does do, is that the sound doesn't change from what you're recording. With analog, you record it, and when you play it back, you will get a fair representation of what you heard on line-in. Play it back a half an hour later, and it will have changed, there are less highs. Play it a day later, and it will really have changed. The high end just changes, it's a natural process of the magnetism of the particles, and when you magnetize, record them, they change. The magnetic particles have a memory and want to go back to their original inert state. It's just the way it is. In digital, you record it, and it doesn't change. The problem with digital is the quality of the analog-to-digital and digital-to-analog converters. At this point in time, the A-to-D and D-to-A's are getting where you can record on it and it doesn't sound “digital” anymore. “Digital” meaning that it sounds cold. “Cold” meaning that digital doesn't show you all of the details, like the depth of the reverb and harmonic room tone. Because there's lack of detail, and especially lack of harmonics going way out, that sound would seem colder, and "digital." Right now, I'm recording 96 K, 24 bit, and whew! It's good! I mean, you're really, really hard pressed to tell it from the source.
@jamesdavid7782 Жыл бұрын
He definately has a thing about Mobile Fidelity. lol
@geneleonard4368 Жыл бұрын
Springteens early ablums sound great especially" The Wild the innocent " & he's selling out stadiums all over The world
@trackingangle929 Жыл бұрын
That was the first and final sounding great one. As for stadium sell outs, ticket prices fall for that to happen my sources tell me…
@dead_formats Жыл бұрын
Steve, please, stop talking and let your guest do the talking..! Please!
@stevewestman7774 Жыл бұрын
I’m going to blackout my screen an mute myself on my OWN channel next time.
@Darrin.Crawford Жыл бұрын
@@stevewestman7774 Good that will help,
@revelry1969 Жыл бұрын
Better to have somebody to balance out fremer. Need mazzy or a few others to keep him honest 🤔😃
@67Pepper Жыл бұрын
Steve interrupted him too much. He's on as a guest. Stop interrupting him, geez.
@Crmsnraider Жыл бұрын
Is this a house or a business you are is...im confused...
@mitchabate Жыл бұрын
It would be a better interview if Steve would stop interupting Michael.
@mazzysmusic Жыл бұрын
Interrupting Fremer ? That’s funny. Steve held his own and Michael goes on. It’s all good. Entertaining
@mccarthyd6603 Жыл бұрын
They were both interrupting each other....fair game....
@mitchabate Жыл бұрын
@@mazzysmusic It
@mitchabate Жыл бұрын
Its not about holding his own. Its about a cohesive interview, which Steve is not good at.period.
@mazzysmusic Жыл бұрын
@@mitchabate well the weekly round tables that Westman hosts are not really about interviewing. They are always a loose conversation or round table. Which is literally in the title every week.
@tonynewman1694 Жыл бұрын
Fremer is hard work to watch as he does not stick to what he is ralking about and goes off on tangents . Not for me
@gonzaljevic Жыл бұрын
I like fremer but I can't see someone not liking him.
@tonynewman1694 Жыл бұрын
@@gonzaljevic I did not say I don't like him , just not his style of presentation.
@gonzaljevic Жыл бұрын
@@tonynewman1694 not an issue here. Whether you like him or not is not of my business.
@elsamariasorforger5788 Жыл бұрын
FAKE
@davidbryanbartlett4071 Жыл бұрын
What is all the Fuss about vinyl / Digital is much cleaner then they stick it back on Cheap moisy vinyl with click & pops after a few plays // Idiots are still in the record business
@casperdowlen625 Жыл бұрын
Troll.
@DC-xx4kv Жыл бұрын
Dude how many times do I have to say you talk way too much. Fremer is the guy we want to hear. You talk over him all the time please let others talk!!!!!!!! I had to stop 11 minutes in because this is not watchable. Sorry Michael it would have been great to hear what you had to say.
@gonzaljevic Жыл бұрын
Agreed. This seems to be a very popular opinion about this video. And yet Steve seems to not appreciate the feedback.
@DC-xx4kv Жыл бұрын
@@gonzaljevic yes. Another opinion with more than one person agreeing is the narcissist component. Sad. I appreciate Fremer and his expertise. ☮️
@1999zrx1100 Жыл бұрын
Can’t believe the hate comments, try doing better people, well done. 🫡
@stevewestman7774 Жыл бұрын
I thought it was a fun back and forth chat. Thanks for watching.
@1999zrx1100 Жыл бұрын
It was, keep them coming. 👍
@Darrin.Crawford Жыл бұрын
Derek, its not hate when the vast majority of viewers are telling Steve to shut up and let the guests speak. Hate?? Seriously?? Grow up!