I agree with you 💯 percent

@@jimk2000 Wow, thanks mate! I'm honestly not trying to be mean, really 😊 It's just, 'Steve... The Decaffeinated... the Decaffeinated Steve...' 😁

Thanks much appreciated. Glad you enjoyed it.

Yes thank you. I quite enjoying our back and forth.

Thanks Jason. I really enjoy my chats with Michael.

@@stevewestman7774 People think that their unopened records are going to be worth more. LOL! The coming dep[ression will make records worthless

Interesting.

I kind of agree with Fremer, but I mean, he also said “maybe I’m wrong, I guess we’ll see”

van halen originals sound great and cost peanuts ... jazz is old and expensive so reissues are welcome ... thats all he means , its no diss to the music itself no ones grail is an orginal VH1 ... ?

I appreciate the compliment. Thank you Pat. Happy Fathers Day to you.

"....hard to follow..."? Odd. There are plenty of times w/ a 3+ grp on any hosted YT pgm without a moderator of convoluted "Robert Altman dialog" (look it up 😉) but I definitely disagree. I listened to half the vid. on my office system and the other 30 or so mins in my HT room. No audio issues with my near 60 yr old ears. No dis.👍

I agree. This guy's style of interviewing is not my cup of tea. He is knowledgeable, good voice, and does great in some parts of the interview but then he starts cutting and interjecting too much. He would be a great interviewer if he controlled himself when interviewing. And Michael Fremer? Always with his trademark humor and anecdotes. I like him.

That’s Tim Horton interrupting, not Steve

I love listening to Mikey. I find myself really disliking Steve. Neither of those things are new

I don’t appreciate the diss on my own channel. Dislike me? really dude? This was not an interview but a chat with my a good friend of mine.

It’s not out yet!

Thank you, yes I was trying to guess the spelling of the name by googling but failed :)

Problem is I can’t hear Fremer. That guy won’t shut up.

@@DC-xx4kv I disagree, it's two friends talking.

@@alanabentrod3963 that’s a biased and a response in denial. Too bad so many comments are similar to mine. Also it doesn’t matter the nature of the relationship. It’s rude and unhealthy. Talk to a qualified therapist and you’ll hear that same feedback. I feel sorry for those who can’t learn and grow. Not to mention it’s unpleasant and hard to hear as a viewer or witness.

I thought both were talking over each other at the same time....I laughed out loud a couple of times because while one person was talking the other was just waiting to chime in and was not even listening to the other....both were doing to each other 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@@mccarthyd6603 Hence my point it was two friends having a conversation not a interview.

Ever heard of MFSL? They did a box set TWICE.

Always fun doing a show with Michael.

The Plangent Box is the best. It will be interesting if MoFi can best them.

@@mazzysmusic I am a staunch supporter of the Plangent system. One of my issues with the AAA mind set is that it prevents the implementation of the Plangent system and other DSPs that can make the transfers and masterings better. Mofi does have a high bar here.

Thanks David. It was a fun chat. Thanks for watching.

I guess even though I can tell that Steve is very knowledgeable, it's just my and many other's cup of tea. I'll give this guy a try a couple of more times though.

@@bradleykayyeah he’s narcissistic. That’s what those personalities do. I added a similar comment and not the first time and he keeps doing it. That’s also narcissistic. What a waste of Fremer.

Steve has a very interesting channel and much to share but he constantly talked across Michael 45 also. Hey, these are people who love records and equipment, and are sharing their love for the hobby.

@@DC-xx4kvdude. Why would you insult a guy putting out free content!? What the hell. If you’re not a fan of his style, move on. Keep this stuff positive and if you have criticism, keep it constructive and respectful.

@@jasonarsenault3791 what, are you his lover? I’ve told him this more than once. Obviously he’s nit listening! I was here for Fremer. Which was his click bait. If you or he, can’t stand the heat you move on. Don’t tell people what to do or think. His behavior is boorish. That means is not appropriate and disrespectful. I’ve been around. It’s time to grow up. And grow. Try it. That’s pretty f’ing constructive. If you actually listen.

@@DC-xx4kv hahaha

I have a long list of records to get if I ever get access to time machine 😂

I do appreciate it. Thanks Frederic. I had a lot fun.

Wow....talk about throwing someone under the bus? You were the reason many(including myself) had a negative opinion about your "chat". Me....I knew what to expect when your on one of these forums.....plenty of constant interrupting ( just watch the video again and you will see and hear yourself at work...repeatedly) Head scratching opinions ( Vinyl is not expensive, Box Sets are not expensive...quit complaining. Many other opinions but I don't have the time to mention again)) Plenty of disinformation (Nobody is interested or buying Van Halen these days?) Plenty of redundant Jazz talk (This time it is labeled "Fun" Jazz....which to most of us is still Jazz....😴😴😴😴) I ultimately got exactly what I expected from this 75 minute "chat".... some entertaining moments and some solid opinions from you both....some frustrating, irritating moments of both of you talking non stop and interrupting each other....but overall I enjoyed it for the most part. I've seen you in the past on these interviews in this type of forum and I will try to watch again in the future when they show up in my KZfaq feed. You were no different this time and will be no different in the future whoever the Host is....for better or worse... Cheers 👍

I just read somewhere that only the first 2000 are all AAA. It could be just rumour. I don’t know. Makes no sense for them not to have them all cut AAA.

​@stevewestman7774 Totally agree. I WILL add that VMP in their initial email + their ongoing adverts are describing the anthology bix set as "...Miles electric period..." or something to the effect. Maybe that's a genesis of any rumor.

No compression was applied in the mastering. How Optimal adds rumble is something I don’t understand. I don’t hear it and my speaker are flat to 20Hz. From online comments I’d say your experience with this reissue is an outlier…

Sony also stores tapes at Iron Mountain. The CIA is there too. Tapes did burn in the Universal fire. But many that were claimed to have burned did not…

@@trackingangle929 Well, even being half-deaf, I can often tell an Optimal pressing from hearing the rumble between tracks. I have confirmed it looking at a graph of the recording. And I tried several different copies with the same results. I would add a snap shot but I don't think you can on KZfaq. Sometimes, when a record is pressed simultaneously at multiple pressing plants, there is a variation in sound. One example is the Beatles stereo album boxes. It was pressed at both Optimal and Rainbo Records. As you know they were made from the same Abbey Road master discs. In listening and digitizing both, I noticed the Optimal rumble on their versions, which was absent from the Rainbo pressings. Also, I found the vinyl to be a bit quieter on the Rainbo pressings than the Optimal's. I think that we use a better quality of vinyl in the U.S. Most E.U. pressed records seem to me to have more surface noise. An exception is Pallas of Germany and their associate Record Industry. Even in the U.S. our pressing companies don't always get it right. QRP, in particular, seems to have a problem with off-center pressings. Both they and Optimal both pressed the Beatles' anniversary "White Album". I went through 3 copies of the albums pressed by QRP. The record with Sides 3 & 4 had off-center and edge-warp issues. Sides 1 & 2 were perfect. A local record store had 27 copies returned, so they pulled the remaining copies from the bins. The playing surfaces on the QRP pressings were impressable quiet. So, I ended up returning my copies and buying the Optimal-pressed 4LP boxed set. Although there was more vinyl surface noise and Optimal rumble on Sides 3 & 4 , it didn't have the wow effect of the QRP pressings. Yep, the record stores hated me because I would often return the new albums I bought until I got a suitable copy for myself. Stores like Tower Records didn't like it, but they just shrink wrapped my returns and put them back in the bins with the new records. I can't imagine that only Tower Records did this.

It’s all about flow etc. I like do an hour roundtable and keep things on track. Thanks for watching.

What about the 3rd Mike?

@@TheInGroove Hahaha 🤣 Never leave out Espo! 👍🔊😊🎶

@TheInGroove Mike you are awesome! So it is not a Mike thing, lol.

@@tdow5677 😀

@TheInGroove Mike, you are a class act in the world of us music lovers. You are transparent, and I agree with your opinions 99.9% of the time. The other Mike's are snobby and come off like know it all. You are down to earth and run a damn good business. I live in Florida and have never been to AZ, but man, I would love to get to see your store one day and have a chat with you. Keep up the outstanding work and keep on keeping on brother.

But never took it?

@@stevewestman7774 she said the job of managing editor at a small magazine is can be very stressful. She also was not an audiophile so it didn’t sound interesting, but when I mentioned I was watching a writer for the magazine on KZfaq, she said that brought up all those memories. “If it was a horse riding magazine I might have said yes”

It was pretty spot on.

Maytag’s

I forgot about that. No. I definitely did not get one.

The coy act is cute, until he doesn’t come through. Bad manners.

I would say Steven Wilson is the one when it comes to remix. To my knowledge Roger Nichols always recorded on two tapes, for safety reasons, so an "Original" Master Tape should exist. On the other hand, why is it so important? A copy of that Original Master Tape will not sound any worse than the original one. No one will hear a difference.

I need to see it.

Good question. I’m sure we will hear more soon.

@@stevewestman7774 shocking to me that people buy albums and they don’t own a TT or they have one and don’t listen to them. It does not add up for me. Buying albums as an investment is foolish. Just my opinion.

Yes me too. An area I need to dive into a lot more.

@@stevewestman7774 Most of my records were recorded in 1971 & before. In 1972 I thought the sound on all records were was more harsh, that the sound wasnt as good. I was suspicious that something solid state transistor digital was added, but 2 sound engineers swore I was wrong. You here all this talk that digital didnt start till the very late seventies. Michael Fremer from Stereophile confirmed I was right all along. Fremer JUST said this, so I googled it up what he said. The Doors and The Elektra Records Sound Part 1. Also below when it is talking about DISCRETE recorders, it's talking about tiny tralnsistor Integrated integrated IC transistors that dont sound as good, for example early seventies Sony stereo amps with more expensive & complicated hand wired transistors sound better than today's IC amps, but still tubes recorders sound better. Guitarists today love guitar tube amps better. Analog Planet www.analogplanet.com › content › doors-and-e... Apr 30, 2010 - When I came back to do some mixing in 1970 it was still the same, except that they changed the console to solid-state. The whole control room was all brick, and it had individual panels of acoustical tile to deaden it down. Basically it was a very live room. The console sat on a platform, which was about six or eight inches off the floor. The tape machine sat behind us; we had an old Ampex 200 three-track, which had separate record and playback electronics so that you could select separate record or playback curves. They had a thing back then called A.M.E., which was Ampex Master Equalization, and then they had N.A.B., so if you recorded A.M.E. and played it back N.A.B., it would come out brighter. It's like recording with Dolby and not decoding. We also had an Ampex 300, I believe, three-track, which I converted over to a four-track with sel-sync (the ability to perform overdubs). BB: No, the room stayed the same from the day I walked in the door, which was about 1963 to 1968. When I came back to do some mixing in 1970 it was still the same, except that they changed the console to solid-state. But anyway, back to the console. Tutti used to go to England a lot, and he purchased a solid-state console over there. For the life of me, I can't remember the name of it. We all thought it was kind of cool. It had a lot of features that the tube console didn't have. It sounded different, you know? Tubes still sounded the best. Anyway, Jac Holzman purchased one as well, and we had it customized for our needs at Elektra Studios. So, that's how the console got there. BB: I still like mono to this day, because there aren't any distractions. It's like a black and white movie, where you can create incredible dimensions, depth-wise, and hide things. That's very hard to do in stereo. That's because we don't record in stereo: We record multi-track point-source discrete audio. The difference in the mix was when we would open it up to stereo, we would have to change things, because it didn't fall in the same place. Spatially, things would fall into other places. MG: It sounds to me as if the first Doors album had the best high-frequency extension, transient snap, and overall transparency, and that with each album— sonically fine as they are—those qualities seemed to diminish. Would you agree or disagree? BB: I'd agree with that to an extent, because the first album was all tube. Strange Days was done on a tube console, but with a solid-state eight-track. From then on it became all solid-state consoles and solid-state tape machines. There was also this direction that Paul wanted to take it, a more intellectual kind of a sound, not as raw as the first album. The sound started to become more scientific as it went along, a little more clinical, because studios, by and large, are hospitals, they're not places to record music. Technology is the evil person here. MG: I guess that's not fighting technology, it's kind of going around it. BB: Sound since the 1960s has gone backwards instead of forwards, in my estimation. In the recordings that I do today for motion pictures, I use tube microphones, tube microphone pre-amps, and I try to bypass the solid-state consoles as much as possible. It's more open, it's rounder, it has more depth. I can give you an example. If you take a room that has some reverberation— not a chamber, just good clear liveness— and you put an earphone in the middle of the room with a click going through it, so you hear the “tick, tick, tick.” Plug up a good microphone, maybe a (Neumann) U-67 or something like that, split the signal so it goes into a tube microphone pre-amp, and then the solid-state pre-amp, bring them both up on the console, and switch back and forth, and listen. With the tube, you'll hear all the reverberation in the room; the solid-state will close down. Ten times out of 10. So that's somewhat what you're hearing. Even the equalizers back then were tube; we had Pultech EQ-P1A's. MG: What's your opinion of digital multi-track recorded sound, and your opinion of digital recording, period, compared to analog? Which do you prefer? BB: I would venture to say that 95% of the music that I've recorded in the last eight years has been all digital. Digital does not basically sound better than analog, but what it does do, is that the sound doesn't change from what you're recording. With analog, you record it, and when you play it back, you will get a fair representation of what you heard on line-in. Play it back a half an hour later, and it will have changed, there are less highs. Play it a day later, and it will really have changed. The high end just changes, it's a natural process of the magnetism of the particles, and when you magnetize, record them, they change. The magnetic particles have a memory and want to go back to their original inert state. It's just the way it is. In digital, you record it, and it doesn't change. The problem with digital is the quality of the analog-to-digital and digital-to-analog converters. At this point in time, the A-to-D and D-to-A's are getting where you can record on it and it doesn't sound “digital” anymore. “Digital” meaning that it sounds cold. “Cold” meaning that digital doesn't show you all of the details, like the depth of the reverb and harmonic room tone. Because there's lack of detail, and especially lack of harmonics going way out, that sound would seem colder, and "digital." Right now, I'm recording 96 K, 24 bit, and whew! It's good! I mean, you're really, really hard pressed to tell it from the source.

That was the first and final sounding great one. As for stadium sell outs, ticket prices fall for that to happen my sources tell me…

I’m going to blackout my screen an mute myself on my OWN channel next time.

@@stevewestman7774 Good that will help,

Steve interrupted him too much. He's on as a guest. Stop interrupting him, geez.

Interrupting Fremer ? That’s funny. Steve held his own and Michael goes on. It’s all good. Entertaining

They were both interrupting each other....fair game....

@@mazzysmusic It

Its not about holding his own. Its about a cohesive interview, which Steve is not good at.period.

@@mitchabate well the weekly round tables that Westman hosts are not really about interviewing. They are always a loose conversation or round table. Which is literally in the title every week.

I like fremer but I can't see someone not liking him.

@@gonzaljevic I did not say I don't like him , just not his style of presentation.

@@tonynewman1694 not an issue here. Whether you like him or not is not of my business.

Troll.

Agreed. This seems to be a very popular opinion about this video. And yet Steve seems to not appreciate the feedback.

@@gonzaljevic yes. Another opinion with more than one person agreeing is the narcissist component. Sad. I appreciate Fremer and his expertise. ☮️

I thought it was a fun back and forth chat. Thanks for watching.

It was, keep them coming. 👍

Derek, its not hate when the vast majority of viewers are telling Steve to shut up and let the guests speak. Hate?? Seriously?? Grow up!