Missed the live stream but there’s nothing like waking up at 0500 to a new video from Audioholics!

So true commentary! My 1st trip and monthly trips to Bay/Bloor Radio in Downtown Toronto right off the Yorkville region and almost on my U of T campus impressed me for a lifetime.

Hi Gene. You had an effect with the folks at Audessey. Back in the beginning I sold a pair of Subwoofers for their research labs. It is about connections right. Great to see you as always. It is ARC times with Trinoff and Audessey and Dirac for instance. Tools that help along with REW and proper treatment and placement are the key. Most homes are pretty bad acoustic nightmares. Anyone who thinks ARC is the whole panacea is wrong and missing out. Sound blankets and other furniture tricks and much more for much less than you think. You are right Gene. My friend Lance has a room properly treated and then ran Audessey with ease and the response is outstanding. Love what you do Gene. I have been trying to reach you but for some reason can’t find your contact information. I will look further. Holly Cole was my demo selection for my audio sales. Jennifer Warnes was another. Basics and treatment are key. Not your bottomless pit of money you throw at it. Finally people are talking fundamentals.

I have watched this video several times and learn something new each time. Educational, informative and entertaining. One of my all time favorites.

Great video! I wish I had seen this before last night.. lol!. I calibrated my Denon back when I first got it a year ago and never really gave much thought to how much occasional updates improve things. I bought a new subwoofer so last night I recalibrated (BTW, the new cal procedure is nicer and easier to work with) and WOW, what an improvement. Audyssey also caught my new subwoofer was not performing as well as it should and popped up an on the fly level adjustment so I could adjust the output level using the subwoofer volume control on the back of it until it was spot on at -75dBm (the target level), before moving forward with the whole room calibration process. That was a really nice feature, so I didn't waste a lot of time tuning the sound system for the room and everything sounded great after just one pass. The spatial imaging is so tight, if somebody is speaking, it really sounds like they are in a specific spot, as well as how smoothing things that are moving around are to track as they move. Can't wait to go back and re-watch some of my favorite movies now that the system is working so much better. Cheers!

Thank you Gene for your guess! I own the x6700h and this will help greatly! There's so much knowledge on this channel and its freaking fantastic!!👍

Hey I just found this video researching audio calibration but ended up watching the whole thing. I really appreciate people who are extremely knowledgable about a subject but also humble and clear about what is subjective vs objective. I learned way more than I thought I would as a noob, thanks!

This is a great video, thanks. I will use Polk Audio LSiM 702 F/X once my room is done (sitting in a box now), they seem to be precisely what you mentioned as your wishlist for wides; flush mount with angled baffles that are not dipoles (or considered bipoles). Just took delivery of a Denon AVR-A110, very excited to add into my system.

Great video. VERY helpful!!! I've actually gotten that phase error you mention on my KEF IQ9's and IQ6c. I made sure the wiring was correct and moved on, as advised!

Thank God I found this 🙏 With my marantz sr6013, emotiva gen 2 xpa 5 & xpa 2 with all new klipsch rp series speakers, which are very efficient does not sound right or what it should with running audyssey!

Everything i wanted to know about Audessey and multeq app, great video!

This is great. Thank you so much Audioholics

OMG. Having designed, built and tested stereo systems and home theaters for 20 years I now feel vindicated in my personal experience with Audyssey. My current theater has never lived up to my expectations. Female voice, subwoofer performance and a lack of punch in music that seems to sound better in my Jeep! I am currently away from home but cannot wait to return and apply the knowledge you both shared in this video. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Looking forward to watching this! Not an Audyssey expert so haven't had great luck with adjusting my Denon 3700. Also Denon support was exactly zero help with sound setup, only verifying basic hardware. My 10yr old Onkyo sounded better at times 😐

Gene, love your channel. I would say that many audiophiles, high-end and otherwise listen to classical music and are big into music streaming so it would be nice to compare the sound of receivers and speakers using classical CDs. That really would show the ability of speakers to handle the highs and bass lows and not all speakers are good for classical music.Two disc that come to mind would be Also Sprach Zarathustra which was used in the movie 2001 as the opening theme and Saint-Saens Organ Symphony. So far classical listeners are under-represented.

thanks for this! I just watch this on repeat in hopes to absorb more each listen

THANKS IT WAS A PLEASURE BEING WITH YOU GUY I AM INN CYPRUS AND I AM A GREEK CYPRIOT

I've been an audiophile over 60 years and this is the best AV educational video I've ever seen. Thank you very much. I own the Denon 3700H and am buying an SVS ultra bookshelf system shortly. I already own with 2 SVS subs and find that while Audyssey is a cool piece of software it should be used judiciously. Believe it or not I am still using my original Atlantic Technology (ATL) speakers from 30 years ago. I remember the old days of calibrating using Avia and the Sound and Vision disc with an SPL meter. All it did was measure feet and speaker levels. At the time I was using 2 ATL 10" subs. But what I vividly remember was those 2 little subs hitting me right in the chest - and that was from 10' away. Anyway thanks again for the video.

Great video Gene I’m really looking forward to hearing your review on the Anthem MRX 1140 & ARC

You guys Rock thanks for all the Tricks and tips 👍👍👍👍👍👍

I still go back to this review when recalibrating using the editor app, as I just did a re cal…no downside to recenter. Thank you as always Jene and crew 🍻

This is amazing information as always! THANK YOU!!!

This Audyssey plus add-ons seems more like a Rube Goldberg machine. As for the presets, I've been enjoy that feature on my Pioneer Elite SC-99 for years, it's part of the MCACC PRO set up. I actually get 6 memory slots that will save different Eq, channel Levels, Distances if needed. It's seems to me like all of these systems have their pros and cons, but we need them in order to get the most out of our setup.

I was just going to ask about the Persistent speakers as I have the Monolith 15s and they are brilliant

Hi Gene, love all the videos and information you guys create, you say that audyssey flat sounds the best for you, but what you forget to mention is that flat bypasses your audyssey limmit (curtain) so flat always uses eq for the entire bandwith. Only the referance is possible to limmit what audyssey does

Thank you gentlemen this was so helpful.

This was great!! I love Theo; he seems like a fun guys. Good stuff.

Fantastic video thanks Gene

I just bought an RX-A6A! It will power the 7.1 system and feed my RX-V2600, both will be used to power a 23 speaker system in my room. I have 2 Carver M-400 magnetic fields amps (upgraded recently by a company in Washington state that knows how to do it) running some of the multiple subs and 2, 100 watt plate amps running 2 more. Then I have 3 powered subwoofers as support. Woofer size goes from 15" to 8" and my chair is centered between 2 ,15" subs that face down and the other 7 subs are placed around the room in all the resonance nodes. There are 42 separate speaker elements in 23 cabinets being driven by about 2000 watts in a pyramid shaped room with 10 foot ceiling. With carpet on the floors and hard walls with no square surfaces the room was made for the system. When I run a YAPO test the mic is on my head and all speakers are aimed at the seated location. The 3 dimensionality of the sound stage is like sitting front center of the stage. Very "live" when listening. I can't wait to finish installing the RX-A6A and connect everything then see what YAPO will do to adjust timings. Ah, audio sound, it's a cruel bitch! 😃👍

I’m a little late to the party but the mic setup on a pivot point is genius!

I've watched a dozen videos on Audyssey set up and I have run audyssey a half dozen times. I always end up disabling it and using manual set up. Sounds so much better.

Coming from Yamaha I was wondering where all the tweaks were. This app should be included. Especially when buying flagship ARVs.

Mexican Chocolate from Tabasco is really one of the best I've tried, & I think you must try it too!!!

I found thbe Audssey app well worth the money. I tried using REW, a free and very power room correction software but like most free the user interface and workflow is less than stellar.

LMAO when Gene "pronounced" a super chat name like it was from an exotic land (nooneignoreme) @1:11:10. He didn't realize it was "no one ignore me). Classic.

The number of tweaks you have to use to defeat the system is totally in contraction with the easy to use approach. One thing you could add is first try to optimize your room without Audissey! If you did the job well You will hear how much audissey actually damage the sound. I use it only on my AV8805 for connivence to tackle 50Hz room modes as my room is too small for proper treatment. And i have to admit Audissey does a good job in the low end. But great video guys 👍

Had no idea about that mid range curve. Removed and thank you!

Just found this - amazing resource. Im making my way through the steps but I'm stuck looking for FLAT vs. Reference for my front speakers. I can only find it when using the AVR - I don't see it in the app. Any ideas? Thanks so much for putting this together!

Long time listener and follower, I appreciate all your hard work and putting together this video. It answered a lot of my questions, but I have three questions I can't seem to find any answers for and hoping you or someone readiing this can assist: 1. It was recommended not to use all (8) listening positions, but don't recall hearing how many should be used. What is the recommendation..3 or 6? 2. If we want to adjust my speaker levels after running Audyssey, where should it be done? Shouldn't it be in the app since the app over writes anything in that preset? If it is the app, how are the test tone played. 3. I can't find anything on how to play pink noise through my AVR (Denon 3800) and adjusting the speaker levels at the same. Is there direction on how to do so?

Very helpful, thank you!

I have the 97 Technics THX center.Awesome speaker.

Put vertical blinds on that window in back . I have a wall of glass doors but vertical blinds stop any reflection anomalies . (they are also adjustable)

I have been preaching about turning off mid-range compensation for a long time. The app is worth every penny just to do this. people have no idea how good their receiver or pre-amp really is until you do this. My Marantz is day and night with this crap turned on. Movies just came alive with it off.

Great content guys. Keep it coming! Prost!

great learn every time thanks amen >

Great information as usual. I'm going to try some of these tips to recalibrate my home theater setup. Couple of questions though: A lot of people are pushing to get the biggest subs I can afford, usually 15" or 18". Are you saying that I would be better off with multiples of 10" or 12" instead? My room is extremely large, 6000+ cubic ft open floor plan with vaulted ceilings. I know SVS PB-1000 is cheap enough I could afford 4 of them for less than one 18" sub. Second question, Klipsch RP-8000F vs Paradigm Premier 800f. Are the Paradigms worth double the price of the Klipsch?

Great video! I’ve been waiting for a really good tutorial like this for Audyssey! A friend of mine and I both just bought the new Anniversary edition Denon AVR A110. We’re both also using external amps especially for our sound stage. One thing I’ve found on this video that’s not correct, well, at least not with my A110, is you CAN adjust your subs in the red above 75db and it’ll still let you continue with the calibration using whatever DB level you chose. For example I chose 80dbl’s and I could still continue with Audyssey for the rest of the way. So you may want to double check that again. Maybe they just started letting us do this? IDK? As I just ran Audyssey last week. But I had no problems with my dual SB16 Ultra’s.

This was so helpful for Denon users but I wish someone would do this for Yamaha YPAO room correction.

I think the Audyssey app and feature in my Denon receiver is it's best feature, but it seems like it is more complicated to use than necessary. That is, I think it's the best EQ tool, but it would be great if you could hear the results of changing the curve in real time.

Hi guys, really useful video, thanks for doing this. One thing to ask: The link to the Dynaudio pink noise files doesn't work any more, do you have any suggestions for an alternative source?

I’ve found that with the shape of your ear 👂🏼, the bouncy house speakers 🔊 can be used behind you for a definite improvement in height, but absolutely not in the front. You will always be able to tell they’re speakers are toppers. Not anywhere near the effects of heights or ceilings.

So, what would you recommend if you are setting up a half room? Setting up a theature in a basement, total room ix 21x24, but only going to set up the listening/viewign area in a 12x20 section, but it will still be open (more or less) to rest of space, renting so can't really do any walls. My original plan was either left and right up front about the 1/3 2/3 method. I coudl do the "corners" behind my screen,but the left side isn't really a corner, and I think that would put my left and right towers further in then I would like. My other thought was front and back corners, but kind fo same deal, the back sub if within the viewing area woldn't be in the corner, more like a 2/3. Also not sure I want the subs that close to the neighboring wall, though not sure that would actually matter much to reduce sonic transmission, though I do plan to decouple them from the floor. I guess wherever I put them, you always want the driver to face the listening position though right? What about like a front and back but offset slightly, so the drivers are firing next to each other vs directly opposed? Not even sure I'll go multi sub right away as much as I want to, I might have to stick with my single dual driver for right now. Projector, screen, new pre-pro new OLED, the expenditures are mounting, might need to cool it a bit, but good to know where to start when I do get there.

1. Which day audio test tone file to use? 2. How to send sound to JUST subwoofer in my Denon 750h avr from my iPad? Unplug them? Newbie to all this stuff. Thanks!

Hi just bought Editor App as a relative novice and going through your excellent tips. You mentioned that you don’t place the microphone at the 8 positions Audyssey advises. Sorry if I’ve missed the tip but how many locations for the 1 to 8 do you use and where do you place them please. I used your brilliant idea about the attachment to the Mike boom too, thank you

Just in case this has not been said, if anybody is using a Marantz prepro with an Emotiva amp and XLR cables hooked up, you will get a false phase error during Audyssey calibration. All Gen3 Emotiva amps are XLR pin 3 hot and pin 2 cold, which is out of phase. Emotiva recommended that in order to fix this, reverse the speaker wire polarity on the output side of your amplifier. I can confirm that this works.

Ok, so assuming correct/ideal subwoofer placement, gain matching etc. How does one get 'perfect bass' settings and subwoofer integration, with delay settings?

I have a Marantz NR1711 newly purchased for a business office and they want to control the volume using the web interface. The NR1711 doesn't appear have this function like the Marantz NR1601 from several years ago. Do you know any work around for this? also how can you have "All Zone Stereo On" as a default setting so when you power on the receiver it is already on? Thanks in advance, love your videos!

this is great thank you

Would you be able to do something similar for the new Yamaha ypao? It seems quite a bit more confusing considering bass correction is separate from regular correction.

I just watched this video and i want to thank you so much for the quality and quantity of infos regarding MultEq-X room correction.It's been of great help for me in my own room correction. I was wondering if you've noticed that recommandation in the MultEQ-X user guide ,page 21 under "Tips for taking measurements" item 7 says "Vary the height of the microphone by a few inches between measurements positions to account of the standing waves between the floor and ceiling".Have you experimented this? could it bring a significative change or refinement in the whole calibration process? Thank you in advance for your answer

On MiltiEQ Filter Frequency Range do I adjust every speaker channel two 200 - 300 or just the mains Thank You

Can't decide if I should buy my 15" pro studio in the back and my Sony 6.5" bookshelfs on stands along with a my Kenwood 8" non powered subs but have a line in and line out to the bookshelf with also got a set of JBL balcony speakers with the other sub while I take that back my plan is to run each left side of the speaker of the left of the receiver and the right speakers on the right speakers also was told that is true stereo with multiple speaker then when you use the eq it will work better

Sweet my odler Cambridge audio MC500 was a wmtw design, I love that thing, it really pounds.

This video is great. helped loads setting up my new AVR. 🤩

Ok so how do you set the system to flat in the app? Everything on the AVR or Pre/Pro is not available on the app.

Just ran through XT32 on my x3700h. Results seem different but I still need testing and REW measurements to compare setting my Tekton DI as small/large. Coming from a Pioneer sc-27, I'm kind of amazed at how feature lean XT32 is in comparison. MCACC had 5 profile banks with the ability to set different EQ curves on the fly for them 15 years ago and Denon gives us 2 and boasts about it as a "new" feature. I was also kind of surprised by how the entirety of the calibration was just 3 short chirps and that's it. Maybe it's just so much better that it doesn't need all the extra tests, but it doesn't inspire that confidence in me. PEQ is a pretty big miss here as I'd like to limit the room correction, but at the same time we've been watching movies and the highs in action movies and thing like The Hobbit/LOTR have been painfully piercing, so I need the full ban to ad din a downslope for the treble.

When I slide the cut off for the frequencies, you said, roughly between 200 and 300 do you do it for every single speaker? When using the mobile app

Hello Gene. Thanks for releasing great videos and tips on AVR Setup. This video says when using the Audyssey App to set the MultiEQ Filter Frequency Range to 200Hz or 300Hz. Should this range be set on all speakers or just the Subwoofer?

38:05: This Pink-Noise download page from Dynaudio does not exist any more. I assume the audiocheck's 15 min mp3 file or 30 sec wav file for pink noise serves the same purpose?

Ok so does the app allow you to set the crossover for the sub for lfe?

If I want to calibrate my speakers by playing pink noise while using the app how exactly how do I do that do I play the pink noise through the DVD player or do I play it on the app a bit of clarity would be very helpful regarding this matter as it would help me greatly set the test tone to 75Db all round, just a pity we can’t use the internal test tone but seemingly using the receiver test tone defeats Audyssey and is not included so how does using the downloaded test tone work while using the app work this has me slightly confused just want to do this right any help that can shed some light on this subject would be appreciated.

I have had a Marantz 7007 for about six years. This video was informative because the on screen audyssey guide shows microphone positions at literal seating positions with no mention of the 21 inches from main seating position restriction. There is no mention of this in the operating manual. Is this a newer requirement that does not apply my version of Audyssey? This seems to fundamental to have been missed in this huge manual that was shipped as a CD.

I've owned at least a handful of Onkyo receivers and they all had the "Eiffel Tower" audyssey mic. The last Onkyo receiver i bought was back in 2015 and it came with the " hockey puck" style setup mic. Did they go back to the tall mic again? I have both mics that i can use with my 2015 Atmos receiver 😳😜😄

Doesn't turning off center speaker (denon x3600h) give you a phantom center? Sure seems like it with my theater. Sounds great.

When you turn down the sub before the beginning do you turn it back to middle/neutral afterwards or leave it down at 30 ish?

Hai sir mine multi eq left front channel is not taking calibration but rest of channel taking perfect distance and calibration please help me what to do.....

Only time i see people use "wides" is as a first and second side surround, for like 2+ rows of seating, and not sure that's really giving them the intended effect. The Prime elevations could be used as on wall wide's, since they are angled, but not adjustable, so would have to do it by horizontal location on the side wall to get the tweeters in line with the listening position, and while good, it isn't the best speaker if you have higher end ones integrating with it, but it's a thought.

What's better high frequency roll off 1 or 2 thank you

I followed your recommendations and I cannot believe how much better my audio sounds on my Denon X2600 H. Please let me know how to delete a scan from the Audyssey app on my iPad. Thanks very much!

I have to ask, where is the tutorial on MULTEQ-X? I keeping hearing you guys are coming out with one but can you give me any guidance on “when”?

I only changed the frequency to 80Hz on the speakers that audyssey set below 80Hz. 90Hz and above, I left alone. My fronts are from the 80's, and they do sound better with the midrange compensation.

44:05: How do you do this measurement, how do you get this graph? With which tool? Is this also done with the Audyssey smartphone app? I understand that this is measured after Audyssey calibration with all speakers and subs being active simultaneously. So I must play some test signal here. And then if I get the red curve, where and how in Audyssey app do I have to frickle to get the blue curve? Just kind of random trial & error of playing around with modifying delay values a bit as I understand (44:51)?

I've been calibrating, then using Manual(native pink noise) to level each speaker to reference, with the volume turned up to 0db, with an SPL. You're saying that's not the correct way to do it using the AVR? How do I adjust the levels? Using the app, I've been uploading the profile, adjusting the levels with the AVR, then entering the changes manually into the app profile so I won't have to do it again. But, that must be wrong, too. So, once you've calibrated using the app, and have an external pink noise file, how do you level the speakers?

At 34:09, 43:07, 43:36, 48:00, you guys say about Dynamic EQ, Dynamic Volume, LFC: Set all this in the app, not in the AVR itself. I do not quite understand why. Couldn't I just set all these options to "Off" in the app, then load it to the AVR, and later-on in the AVR I could still decide to e.g. set Dynamic EQ to "ON" when needed (e.g. when playing music at low volumes) while keeping the other settings unchanged. And similarly for Dynamic Volume and LFC? I also think the OSD menu in the AVR has the options to set these to more different values then just ON or OFF, so I could tune it finer to my needs than in the mobile app. Or can't I set these settings in the OSD any more when my Audyssey calibration stems from the mobile app, and it only works when I do the Audyssey room calibration on the AVR without app?!?

hi im currently running a 5.1.4 set up with a dennon air 4500 amp and I've ran the audssey app but am so confused about all the settings and how to adjust them ? its a minefield of info and I wondered if I send my calibration details to someone the would be kind enough to have a look and help me please

You guys say to get it right sounding right in 2 channel listening to music first. Do you mean playing a cd through the blue ray player and with option set to music, and wich stereo mode? Basically my atmos setup to me sounds incredible, but trying to get good 2 channel audio out of my marantz av7702 has never happened for me. The music just sounds lifeless. I basically just use my marantz for atmos and other surround formats and have another amp and pre for stereo listening. I feel my marantz should sound excellent in 2 channel stereo but it sounds horrible. I have a switch box to switch my mains between my surround amp and my 2 channel amp. Any advice?

Obviously, I searched for an answer before I’m posting, but I just wanna be clear if I run odyssey through the iPad app and send my results to the processor. Are you saying that I can’t go in with the remote and manually adjust the subwoofer levels without messing something up?

As a more general query I'd like to hear thoughts on Atmos speaker assignment. Denon will only let you pick certain configurations, but these may not match your room. E.g. I had to have sofa on back wall so Atmos speakers are technically top front and top middle, but this is not an option. Is there experience or rule of thumb that can be applied or do you just have to do a calibration for all options and see which sounds best?

If I’m running bookshelf’s through a sub does it still count as a sub in your 2 and 4 models?

Newbie here. First set up and am going to re-run with the app. I don’t understand if eliminating the curve to 300, how does turning off mid range compensation change anything? Isn’t that above the 300? Due to my lack of experience, if mid range comp is at 2k area, eliminate eq above 300, isn’t mid range being eliminated by that?

Watched many videos on home theatre but when I use hit and trial according to my ears, room, media player over three months. Finally got best settings. There is no straight line of settings.

I am a heretic, and used Audyssey for the different purpose, of course positioning the microphone differently. First of all, my 4-way system consisting of a horn sub under the floor, woofers in concrete boxes, line arrays in walls, with added arrays of tweeters, have pretty bumpy frequency response, that Audyssey made almost flat. And second, I do not want Audyssey to screw it according to inevitable nulls and bumps that the room causes in the microphone, even with a shelf from floor to the ceiling with a mattress topper behind it on the wall, but castrating the frequency band for it is the wrong way, IMHO. The next time I will try the app, thank you! :)

Wonderful session and Theo is an excellent addition!! What are your thoughts regarding the solution by Sound United for the HDMI 2.1 issues they had in Denon & Marantz AVR's. A "dongle" seems a bit inadequate when purchasing a $5,000+ AUD AVR.

Hey Gene, Wasn't able to be on for the live chat but wanted to ask a question. I have an older Marantz AV7005 and I have found that it sounds best when i use Audyseey Front ByPass, especially in two channel listening. Since the AV7005 doesn't offer the editor app is this similar to or a way of not having Audyssey EQ the fronts or cutting off Audyssey at 500hz via the app?

Great info. A question. I have downloaded the pink noise files. How do I use them to assist in the calibration .? I have the files on usb. My setup is Denon AVR X8500H/A upgraded. I also have an Oppo 203. Ty for your help

So, if I have an iphone 14 transmitting audio to my vintage system I'm assuming I don't need either one of these? What would you suggest for iphone users?

Gene how to you feel about using a miniDSP 2x4 HD and using just sub out 1 on the unit?

One question. I believe if you choose any other setting apart from reference (as you've recommended flat) then the tweaks you applied to app like mid range comp off, freq limiting, etc are all going to default back. Can anyone confirm?

I have a question and hopefully you will answer it. I'm new in the hobby so all of this is a learning process for me. I have the marantz sr 6015 and have ran used auddessey from the avr so I'm familiar with what room correction is and I'm ready to try the editor app now which I've already downloaded. I've been reading different things online about getting started and most of them are saying before running the app you have to have a mini DSP and run Rew, and I also read that if you only have one sub that you don't have to use that stuff and one sub is what I have. I'm running a 5.1.4 and my room size is 12x12x9, and my sub is the SVS pb 3000. Do I go ahead with the editor app or is running the app beforehand is useless. If anyone can help me with that I'd appreciate it.

Hi Gene....rel subwoofers say set ur fronts to large..is this ok? Please let me know on this