I think the character suited him but he was a good actor.

One of best ever, so good.

Dead link.

But lives a sad life.

One of the best movies for having a deep plot for sure. Deep in meaning not meaningless complexity.

Camila A. Come on!

@@arieraaphorst1998 That is her personal taste, respect it.

@@arieraaphorst1998what’s your favorite movie of all time mr movie guy

Well, basically, the girls are very minimal, from Chris to the girls in the cave.

Film, like literature, should reflect real life. I went to an all boys high school, 1977-81 (it has since become co-ed). Having restricted exposure to girls was part of that experience, and the limited scenes with girls reflected that. Knox's longing for Chris felt all the more real for that reason.

Rita Dolores Monahan,OV oh, come on!

@@arieraaphorst1998man you replied to like every comment u gotta be neils dad or something

It seems she strangely deleted all her comments in reaction to your comments so that all we get is a one-sided argument.

@@martinsorenson1055 I'm not sure she did, don't think she looks at the thread much if at all. Might be a quirk of youtube. She has a hot voice though.

@@Coneman3 It must be some quirk of KZfaq - what I see is only your comments and none of hers.

I just watched that and agree with you 100%. Pretentious analysis typical of an English major.

The entire movie worked in a mix of idealism and realism. At some points there was a rush of idealism, "March at your own pace", "road less traveled", "carpe diem". On the other hand, Welton was an institution built off of the nasty chain of people handed their futures, take it or leave it. Most profs at Welton didn't believe in anything but conformity and discipline and no doubt that is how they were raised. I loved the dinner scene where the "realist" quoted a renowned figure, and Robin made his own quote, which kind of awed the professor. Likewise, the class we follow throughout the movie was nothing but dissociated teens (emotionally separated from parents who demand their cooperation and hard work- money, prestige, reputation-preservation) and as Niel commented to other classmates asking him why he didn't stand up for himself to his dad, "Ok mister future banker and future-lawyer!" So now, after the students start to understand free choice and are inspired with Keaton's teaching, they start systematically making bolder choices. One lands the girl, one gets over social phobia and one decides to enter a play. Some of it works, and as we know, the teen who entered the play had it backfired completely and ultimately committed suicide. Reason behind that, he tasted freedom, had an entire audience commend his acting that he so desired to do, and yet despite everything was berated by his dad and was about to be sent into a more strictly disciplined school as punishment for something he did well. That said, spending his whole life up to that point trying to live up to expectations he didn't want and being forced to pursue the goal he doesn't want for another decade after, he was blasted by the fact that not everyone gets what they want, even if they desire it the most. The film ultimately using this concept was an "anti-trope" as ill incorrectly call it, where if you want it bad enough and take a chance, it will come true. In this case, we get a glance at someone of the many out there whose dream failed. With no hope left, the prospect of losing himself as he was in that year to the strict disciplined "Weltoneer" his father and teachers became in the next decade, he ended it there, after success.

The whole idea of Neil committing suicide was that he felt he couldn't stand up to his father and also that his father didn't care about what he had to say anyway. Neil just figures that his life is destroyed and his dream of being an actor is dead so he figures he is going to kill his dad's dream of him becoming a doctor as revenge. I liked the fact that they didn't have his dad drag him out of the play, since he probably would've gotten in trouble anyway (the dad). It was better that he waited until the play was over and then took Neil home.

twistedsith "not, when I came to die, discover that I had not lived"

The idea of suicide seemed more reasonable and attainable to Neil than the idea of standing up to his father and trying to make him understand.

He felt trapped and could only see a miserable life ahead. You don't have to think you would do the same in his shoes. We have no idea how his mind actually worked, but many in similar situations have done the same. It was profoundly tragic and serves to ram home the importance of hope and that life, career and happiness are so important. It allowed the characters in the story to show their true colours, either those of integrity (stand on desk pupils and Keating) or conformist selfish types (Cameron). In this respect the death was important fopr the story.

I've seen that video, and even though she didn't get the message of the movie from the author's perspective, I think she had some interesting points and opened a whole new perspective to the film that I would have never experienced otherwise.

@@JoshuaGraham8383 You're being way too kind. She got the film title wrong, made assumptions about the premise of the film, incorrect assertions, stupidly simplisitc assertions and missed main point of film (which is objective). And she did all this while being patronising and condescending about one of the best films and actors (imo) ever made. She deserves strong criticism as she is out of her depth while trying to sound superior. I she can dish it she should be able to take it. Looks like she may have realised this anyway as she doesn't appear to have posted for years. She is the worst advert for a BA I have ever heard.

You sound pretentious but undereducated.

Did you watch her video and have you seen the film?

@@Coneman3 Yes.